A friend of ours actually bought a 1300 sq ft penthouse in Brooklyn with a 1300 square foot patio. They basically have double the living space but only for half the year
And zero privacy. Hundreds of eyes just staring down on this bizarre looking void between the buildings. Now if it were any warmer climate and landscaped with tall evergreen vines such as you see in Los Angeles, now this would be the thing and worth it all. But here meh
Only If the roof structure can support 1200sq ft of concrete pavers ( 30,000 -36000lbs ) , snow load , people and half a dozen things I don’t know to account for regarding the engineering. And permits .
Snow load is the same as it is now. But yeah that’s a lot to work out. Not sure the exact laws in NY but I would think that’s a big liability to show if none of that is possible.
It's kinda the nature of the best in NYC though but I wouldn't like being like a fish in a fish bowl.
Even in many multimillion dollar condos, ones over $10 million they are still like that on many of their patios, balconies or terraces with others in many buildings looking at them etc.
If that's your concern, many of the most expensive $10 million+ condos are on a high floor of one the highest buildings around, so there's nobody with a good angle to see down into your windows without a telescope from a distant skyscraper. Places like that also have an unobstructed view, so it's two benefits in one. There are plenty of very expensive homes with limited privacy too, but with that kind of budget it's at least an option for you if privacy is a priority. The ones in high towers with privacy are less likely to have as much personal outdoor space though. With a high enough budget it's possible to find places with both.
That's what I was looking for! Just a livable Manhattan penthouse high enough into the clouds to have privacy on open balcony without it being some 10,000 sq ft monstrosity. Park views are a plus. Is that so much for a guy to ask?
This would be better if the layout was flipped so the kitchen and living room were where the bedroom is. As it is, your guests would have to walk through your bedroom to reach the terrace which is weird.
Aw I am a little disappointed that it wasn't on purpose! I thought it was a clever "being super lazy while relaxing" type thing. Like a step up from regular relaxing.
This feels like it would have done better as a common area. I'd feel a bit weird being the only one with this much terrace with so little privacy being surrounded by neighbors.
It reminds me of the vacant lot in Friends where they played touch football on Thanksgiving. People were hanging out of their windows, watching the game. Of course, that was at street level but it's the same vibe.
The terrace probably has a higher occupancy limit than the apartment! You couldn't even conceivably have a party to fill up the space without your home becoming a disaster area.
It probably just didn't have a convenient way to get access to the other floors.
You could turn the terrace into some kind of arena and turn that whole place into a modern colosseum when you give the neighbors a show. That's the best use I can think of but I don't think it was intended.
Like a modern art exhibit? Now I definitely know what I'm doing with my Powerball winnings! It's going to be a human zoo in a big glass cage and a bunch of jungle gym stuff through it. Then you go in there and swing around butt ass naked.
great location, but 1.5M plus a $1500/mo condo fee, AND who knows if the condo board will let you do anything to make that naked, no-rails terrace livable and safe?
I had an apartment like this in my 20s. Was maybe 600 sqft with an equal sized outdoor space. Location was amazing - on 20th near 7th Ave and it backed up to a professional ballet studio, so I had a show every evening.
I couldn’t live there now, with family and all, but it was incredible for the time.
The apartment a couple of floors below mine have a giant patio probably the same size as my entire unit and I'm insanely jealous.
As for privacy, I seem to care less than other people here. It's not like I'll be prancing around there in the nude. It doesn't matter to me if someone can see me gardening or having dinner al fresca, nor do I think many people would care to. It's not that interesting.
And of course the entrance to the outdoor entertainment space us through the bedroom. I’m having living in a NOLA shotgun double with a roommate trauma flashback.
And that's plus another $20k/yr to the condo board, an amount which will only go up with time.
You're paying the condo board more than $20/sqft/yr. In a decade you'll have paid them more than $200/sqft. You can buy a nice house for that!
But hey, at least you get access to a no-railings, no-fixtures death-trap of a roof which they disguise with AI "staging." That totally makes it worth two grand a foot.
That terrace is super nice but I feel like if I ever used it there would be like 20 different people just watching me. Because if I lived in one of those surrounding apartments that's what I would do.
This terrace is basically at the bottom of a pit and will only get sunlight midday during a few summer months when the sun is directly overhead.
It looks like the roof has recently been resurfaced. Only a floating deck would be allowed AND the owner would have to assume responsibility for any damage caused to the membrane including resulting leaks. Insurance for that would be very expensive and the condo board will likely have their lawyer review everything because it could affect the insurance for the building as a whole.
The fact that there are neither railings nor any sign of previous railings is a big clue that there will be problems or at least great expense involved in actually utilizing the space or a previous owner would have done so already.
A friend of ours actually bought a 1300 sq ft penthouse in Brooklyn with a 1300 square foot patio. They basically have double the living space but only for half the year
This is what I was wondering. Where do you even keep all the deck furniture if a wind storm blows through?
I keep my polywood deck furniture outside all year in the snow belt Midwest and they have the same kind of stuff
If your deck furniture blows 40 feet away, your neighbor's ceramic duck dies. (I'm from the Midwest)
If that happens on a Brooklyn rooftop..
Chain it up. Normally it doesn't get that windy though
Those are called Trade Winds..
And zero privacy. Hundreds of eyes just staring down on this bizarre looking void between the buildings. Now if it were any warmer climate and landscaped with tall evergreen vines such as you see in Los Angeles, now this would be the thing and worth it all. But here meh
The terrace pic is AI staged….the real “terrace pics are further down the listing and it’s just a rooftop with no rails or infrastructure at all.
But the real photo makes it look much bigger. I wonder if you’re limited due to another condo also having access.
That’s a pretty egregious use of “staging” though. That’s like $100k worth of work to get it to that.
Only If the roof structure can support 1200sq ft of concrete pavers ( 30,000 -36000lbs ) , snow load , people and half a dozen things I don’t know to account for regarding the engineering. And permits .
Snow load is the same as it is now. But yeah that’s a lot to work out. Not sure the exact laws in NY but I would think that’s a big liability to show if none of that is possible.
Ha. Yeah, I guess the snow load wouldnt change .
Damnit! I've been bamboozled!
Good eye, reddit detective
Idk, I wouldn’t want to be out there like a zoo animal for all my neighbors
I would look into covering some or all of it with a pergola or something similar.
Agree, to each their own though.
It's kinda the nature of the best in NYC though but I wouldn't like being like a fish in a fish bowl.
Even in many multimillion dollar condos, ones over $10 million they are still like that on many of their patios, balconies or terraces with others in many buildings looking at them etc.
Tis not for me.
If that's your concern, many of the most expensive $10 million+ condos are on a high floor of one the highest buildings around, so there's nobody with a good angle to see down into your windows without a telescope from a distant skyscraper. Places like that also have an unobstructed view, so it's two benefits in one. There are plenty of very expensive homes with limited privacy too, but with that kind of budget it's at least an option for you if privacy is a priority. The ones in high towers with privacy are less likely to have as much personal outdoor space though. With a high enough budget it's possible to find places with both.
That's what I was looking for! Just a livable Manhattan penthouse high enough into the clouds to have privacy on open balcony without it being some 10,000 sq ft monstrosity. Park views are a plus. Is that so much for a guy to ask?
True but only richer people are looking down on you, not the Poors
fs lets head through my bedroom to...OMG
It's...NYC
The Ai terrace is disappointing . 1.6 mil and you get 860sqft and a rubber roof to stare at. ( At least it’s not a black roof)
You know, I'm just now realizing that you're the rooftop access for this part of the building. Imagine when that needs to be replaced.
This would be better if the layout was flipped so the kitchen and living room were where the bedroom is. As it is, your guests would have to walk through your bedroom to reach the terrace which is weird.
A lot of apartments have this layout and its sinful
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/101-W-79th-St-APT-2G-New-York-NY-10024/31524122_zpid/
Thanks. Very helpful. I love looking at Manhattan Zillow listing - I find it entertaining and relazing (in a dream world kind of way).
I was fantasizing about a penthouse overlooking Central Park for my Powerball winnings 😂
"relazing" is now my favorite word and inactivity!
Ah, yes. Autocorrect does (or doesn't) strike again 🙄
Aw I am a little disappointed that it wasn't on purpose! I thought it was a clever "being super lazy while relaxing" type thing. Like a step up from regular relaxing.
It is, now!
This feels like it would have done better as a common area. I'd feel a bit weird being the only one with this much terrace with so little privacy being surrounded by neighbors.
It reminds me of the vacant lot in Friends where they played touch football on Thanksgiving. People were hanging out of their windows, watching the game. Of course, that was at street level but it's the same vibe.
Yeah, I thought you could turn the square part into an arena and turn the place into a modern colosseum when you give the neighbors a show.
The terrace probably has a higher occupancy limit than the apartment! You couldn't even conceivably have a party to fill up the space without your home becoming a disaster area.
It probably just didn't have a convenient way to get access to the other floors.
You could turn the terrace into some kind of arena and turn that whole place into a modern colosseum when you give the neighbors a show. That's the best use I can think of but I don't think it was intended.
Like a modern art exhibit? Now I definitely know what I'm doing with my Powerball winnings! It's going to be a human zoo in a big glass cage and a bunch of jungle gym stuff through it. Then you go in there and swing around butt ass naked.
You have a big square area, you do what you want.
You can organize a neighborhood game of tic tac toe.
You'd probably want to build some king of higher fence if you're going to play sports.
I'm really rooting for you to win now. You would obviously spend every dollar very wisely (well, my version of wisely..)
Thanks! I'll be sure to remember you and give you a free membership to all my zany ventures!
And no privacy
That was my thought everyone looks in on you.
It's not a penthouse, it's apartment 2G. One of the penthouses went for $12.5 million in 2008.
great location, but 1.5M plus a $1500/mo condo fee, AND who knows if the condo board will let you do anything to make that naked, no-rails terrace livable and safe?
I imagine if it could have been as nice as the staging photos, somebody would have done that already and doubled the price.
For something the size of a small apartment. Who in the hell would want that.
I had an apartment like this in my 20s. Was maybe 600 sqft with an equal sized outdoor space. Location was amazing - on 20th near 7th Ave and it backed up to a professional ballet studio, so I had a show every evening.
I couldn’t live there now, with family and all, but it was incredible for the time.
Bedroom s/b on the other side, so the entertaining wouldn't need to go thru the bedroom.
You want to feel like a hamster in a cage every time you walk outside? Have I got a place for you
That’s actually much less expensive than I imagined it would be.
It's really a blank slate
Which is crazy because it’s 1.5 million and doesn’t even have a living room
Expressive or expensive? Both?
There's so many windows around from which people can see you very clearly, a single freak as neighbour & I wouldn't be able to chill outside.
My Aunts lived in the City Lights building in LIC, 6th floor.
650 SQ foot apartment, 740 SQ foot terrace overlooking the East River.
Glorious spot!
The apartment a couple of floors below mine have a giant patio probably the same size as my entire unit and I'm insanely jealous.
As for privacy, I seem to care less than other people here. It's not like I'll be prancing around there in the nude. It doesn't matter to me if someone can see me gardening or having dinner al fresca, nor do I think many people would care to. It's not that interesting.
I lived one floor up from this apartment. You can see everything.
Edit: this isn’t a penthouse; it’s a second floor apartment (first residential floor)
Haha yeah I noticed that after posting. I must have been high as tits when I made this yesterday.
Anyway, that's an awesome coincidence!
(assuming this 101 west 79th street)
That’s not a patio it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen
It’s not unusual for the top floor apartment to come with private roof access, essentially doubling your square footage but not super useable
This is on the 2nd floor. Apartment 2G.
No way for me, what’s to stop people throwing things into your pretty furniture?! People are weird like that.
And of course the entrance to the outdoor entertainment space us through the bedroom. I’m having living in a NOLA shotgun double with a roommate trauma flashback.
Desirable to the wealthy exhibitionist .
If you look at the arial view The roof is not white either. It’s a mess and there is no sunlight
https://preview.redd.it/3p50tczieh9g1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1129b9475f45c062da45edfc2dc977992b148096
$1,855 / sqft for that shithole!
And that's plus another $20k/yr to the condo board, an amount which will only go up with time.
You're paying the condo board more than $20/sqft/yr. In a decade you'll have paid them more than $200/sqft. You can buy a nice house for that!
But hey, at least you get access to a no-railings, no-fixtures death-trap of a roof which they disguise with AI "staging." That totally makes it worth two grand a foot.
I am building a greenhouse/solarium.
Eta: After looking at it in Google maps, I think that it shows about a third of the rooftop being the "private access" for this condo.
That terrace is super nice but I feel like if I ever used it there would be like 20 different people just watching me. Because if I lived in one of those surrounding apartments that's what I would do.
Realistically:
This terrace is basically at the bottom of a pit and will only get sunlight midday during a few summer months when the sun is directly overhead.
It looks like the roof has recently been resurfaced. Only a floating deck would be allowed AND the owner would have to assume responsibility for any damage caused to the membrane including resulting leaks. Insurance for that would be very expensive and the condo board will likely have their lawyer review everything because it could affect the insurance for the building as a whole.
The fact that there are neither railings nor any sign of previous railings is a big clue that there will be problems or at least great expense involved in actually utilizing the space or a previous owner would have done so already.
Party Patio 💯