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  • I think, aside from the stuff associated with mythics (not sure how much of that is soloable or how much I care about running dungeons repeatedly lol), I might be actually be done with Remix after getting the Demon Hunter skull toy last night. Unless there's some hidden items I don't know about, I have everything from the vendors and stuff like the TOV deathless sets, I can now go back to farming out Manaforge tier appearances through delves lol.

    Legion Remix was fun, I engaged with it a lot more than I did with Panda Remix and I'm interested to see how they evolve the system with the next iteration. I'm curious if they'll continue the borrowed power trend with BFA/SL or pull a wild card and go back to an older expac like TBC/WOTLK.

    Have you got the Hidden Artifact appearances that were made easier in Remix? Ret is the big one but there are a few others I think. Fury warrior was easier in Remix for sure.

    Just as a note, you have to have the base artifact for its Hidden to be eligible to drop. E.g. you can't get the Survival hidden drop from Ursoc if you haven't obtained Talonclaw.

    You can buy Subtlety Rogue's hidden appearance for bronze, it would otherwise require doing the Trove of the Thunder King scenario from MoP over and over hoping for it to drop from one of the chests (which getting access to the scenario alone requires some grinding/farming).

    Hiddens that drop from Withered Army Training are easier to get in remix because you can repeat the scenario a lot faster than once every 3 days. I think there's a 15 minute lockout and you have to farm the mana is all? And a minimum of IIRC 400 points for it to be eligible to drop.

    • Blood DK
    • Windwalker Monk
    • Protection Paladin

    There's a few hiddens that require rep farming, which is very easy to do in remix since it seems like every other worldquest drops a 2000 rep item.

    • Marksmanship Hunter (Farondis)
    • Balance Druid (Dreamweavers)
    • Holy Priest (Valarjar)
    • Fury Warrior (Valarjar, needed for its items to drop from raid bosses)

    And anything that drops from a world/raid boss is gonna be easier to get now while they reset/cycle on a daily basis.

    World bosses;

    • Frost DK (Soultakers)
    • Enhancement Shaman (Levantus or Flotsam)
    • Fury Warrior (Shar'thos AND Nithogg)

    Raids;

    • Survival Hunter (Ursoc)
    • Guardian Druid (Ursoc)
    • Shadow Priest (Il'gynoth)
    • Mistweaver Monk (Dragons of Nightmare)
    • Fury Warrior (Odyn from ToV can drop the items needed also)

    And some things are once-a-day chances from order hall features that you otherwise have to spend resources and wait time for them to finish, which are already accessible in remix.

    • Brewmaster Monk
    • Vengeance Demon Hunter
    • Destruction Warlock

    Special note is that Destruction Warlock's appearance requires 3 people to spawn the mob that has a chance to drop it, on a daily lockout, so this is the best time to get it while people are actively in the order halls again.

  • It's scary to think that people who think professions are too complicated and struggle with a couple of 1-sentence long tooltips are actual adults out there in the real world and potentially even holding a driver's license.

    Crafting is finally interesting and everyone bitches and moans. God forbid you be able to actually invest in something and make money without having to farm like a bot.

    I have a bad feeling that its gonna get nuked at some point due to all the tears about what boils down to "if you want higher quality item, use higher quality mats and get as many skill points toward that specific craft as you can". You mean if i wanna make the best sword I can, I need to put knowledge into making...swords? TOO COMPLICATED, THROW IT ALL AWAY.

    Like there are some things that could be clearer (like what knowledge points apply to which crafts for some nodes is less obvious than it should be) but damn. I know wow players refuse to read but somehow they still astound me.

    Going on a side tangent, the worst thing about the crafting revamp is how it has now anchored every single profession to a table in the capital city. I get they're trying to force some 'communal' shit but I hate it, after many years of being able to LW or Tailor anywhere I want now I gotta go to one specific spot. It's annoying. Keep it for crafting orders but I shouldn't have to go there to make a bag for myself. Or at least put more crafting tables in other settlements out in the world where it would make sense, like there should have been another LW table in the centaur place in DF. Engineering workbench in the Eco-Domes, etc.

    I'm seeing posts in there claiming stuff that is simply not true, like "if you've done crafting at all in the past 2 expansions you would know this is not true"

    When the system first came out in DF I was confused by it at first, but then I just played with it a bit and quickly learned how it worked. More people need to learn to experiment, often experience is the best teacher.

    The people who complain about the complexity are not willing to learn in the first place. It's the same as people not wanting to put the effort for Mythic raiding but want BIS gear, or not wanting to learn about their specc or rotation. To these people the game should be as braindead and quick as possible.

    And that's why they can never be satisfied, because they don't care.

    There are multiple people in that thread saying they think crafting is too complicated that I recognize from competitivewow, including at least one person who is allegedly HOF.

    It's fucking crazy.

    Someone implying a pretty short paragraph to explain it was ultra complicated got me.

    Heard it said many years ago that most WoW players would struggle to beat Super Mario 1-1 and that has really stuck with me.

    how where you supposed to find the first mushroom without a guide???????

    making that game based around guides RUINS it

    Hello, I'm one of those people :) I don't have a drivers license tho. I'm just incredibly stupid in general

    remember how people complained about Navigating Oribos, a simple Circle, a year into the expansion

    yeha

    Guys I'm starting to think WoW players are a bit dumb.

    • A WoW player.

    See, how can a person like that be trusted to take the correct lane on a roundabout.

  • World or Slopcraft: The Friendslop Within

    Maybe the slop was the friends we made along the way.

  • Daily X posts are fucking slop that even AI would be ashamed to post. Makes sense that the main sub is now flooded with them

    Probably due to low mod week that the moderators have setup until the 5th.

  • Mild crashout;

    If i took a shot every time i saw someone who barely pays attention to anything in the game other than their 'uber chad character' complains about the game being 'disneyfied', i'd be dead of alcohol poisoning. Get another comparison already cuz I don't remember the disney movie where exploding sheep turn people into piles of bloody gore.

    WoW has never been this grimdark setting that certain people keep complaining its not. It takes itself seriously when it wants to, and it can be very cheesy. That is the setting. Its like a comic-book universe or an anime more than vague 'disney'.

    Been replaying the old WC RTS games on-and-off, these "grimdark" comparisons are so corny when you see the world of Warcraft (đŸ«”đŸ˜Č) that they initially presented lol.

    Peons/peasants are straight up cartoon characters, 90% of the lines spoken by units/heroes are pop culture references, and the closest thing we get to "violent" is when units blow up into a cartoonish fountain of blood. Honestly, aside from the plot, WC3 is straight up not a serious game whatsoever and that's the literal lead-in to Classic WoW lmao. WC1 is probably the most serious of the games, but even WC2 is pretty wacky and pop culture filled. This isn't a slight towards those games, I think they're great and WC3 is one of my favorite games from my childhood, but just like with Classic the narrative falls apart when you take your nostalgia glasses off and stop trying to invent some weird politics-laden WoW culture war lmao.

    All these people have to work with is game manual art and the more "subdued" writing style of Classic. By TBC they were throwing pop culture references into every quest/item name, had us picking up shit, and ending an expansion with the Horde/Alliance working together.

    There actually needs to be a study done on the people who just outright replace reality and pretend that WoW was dark fantasy Diablo-like, literally Warhammer, literally Lord of the Rings or whatever else that exists inside their own head.

    You should stay away from Eitrigg posts on r/warcraftlore. According to the comments there, WoW is a ‘baby game with no edge’ that’s ‘written by children’ and I’m not exaggerating, that’s literally what they’re saying lol.

    I think you have to accept that certain stuff like the dragonflight ending was a bit more "power of friendship" than warcraft classically has been, especially visually. And combine that with the Dracthyr looking like twinks etc.

    Like that and the purge of stathholme exist on two very different ends of a spectrum. There's always been a bit of goofyness and comedy, but that's basically a my little pony scene.

    Dracthyr looking like twinks

    I'm about just as tired of people complaining about that as anything else, to be honest. God forbid not every race in the game be an option between skinny/fit girl and refrigerator sized dude, especially a race that was originally designed to be purely spellcasters. I hope they eventually cave to the people wanting playable Drakonid just so they can finally have what they want and shut the hell up about it.

    Reminds me of when people flipped their shit and got the male blood elf model widened back in BC beta because they would be too 'gay'. And that still didn't stop all the gay jokes for the next decade and a half.

    The funniest thing about that whole discourse were the people who clearly hadn't spent anytime in furry spaces thinking that the drakonid wouldn't appeal to the gay crowd.

    I think you have to accept that certain stuff like the dragonflight ending was a bit more "power of friendship" than warcraft classically has been

    no i dont think i will. "power of friendship" is nothing new to wow

    There's always been a bit of goofyness and comedy, but that's basically a my little pony scene.

    r/wow is the other way

    when i clicked the link, i expected the WC3 ending cutscene

    im dissapointed

    yeah but remember Cata is bad because its not classic so checkmate retailist

    Mfs would have a heart attack if Warcraft III were released today. At the end of the game , Medivh literally says, quote-unquote: “Just as the orcs, humans, and night elves discarded their old hatreds and stood united against a common foe.”

    Yeah, Warcraft definitely never had “power of friendship,” lmao.

    This is the unjerk thread so technically I'm in the right place for sharing critical opinions.

  • The "which class do you associate most with each race" posts really show just how many people in the main sub don't actually play the game and their entire interaction with it is purely with out-of-game stuff and youtube cinematics

    I think most of them are pretty reasonable, where either there's like 1-2 really good choices that won (like troll shaman) or the race is pretty heterogeneous and has multiple different classes I could see (like orc and night elf). Or the race has like no culture so whatever picked is gonna be like "yeah sure" (mechagnome)

    But then there's stuff like Dwarf where it feels just associated with the vanilla wow cinematic

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    Blood Elves are the OG mages, this was 100% the right choice

    Worgen->Hunter is so weird, when there is like 0 connection bettwen them and there is never even a single Worgen Hunter shown anywhere at all

    when at the same time the current leader of the Race is literally a Rogue Orderhall Leader, and ofc there is the Obvious Connection with Druids

    Worgen are either druid or Rogue, Druid because of the curse and Rogue because thats the class the game selects when you pick worgen on the character create screen

    I can't believe "night elf mohawk" won. It's not even a class 😭

    A) it's a joke. B) the most voted playable class is included in addition to any unplayable ones.

    Ngl I got confused by the icons.

  • If people block you, you cannot see their posts on reddit? Was talking to a guy in main sub in this thread about cheevos and he basically said i was "bad faith", i went to reply and got server error notif and also noticed i cannot see the post by sorting hot when logged in.

    Yep, that's how it works. There was a guy with a stupid take about how grindy MoP Remix was that was fighting everyone in a circlejerk thread. Suddenly I couldn't reply to him because he blocked me.

    I'm finding myself blocking people posting low effort content to hobby subreddits more and more. It's funny blocking a post, only to find multiple dumb threads have disappeared from the subreddit since the same people tend to spam the subs. The funniest was when I blocked a dumb post and the sticky'd post had disappeared. It turned out the head moderator was hiding the fact he was a mod on this particular meme subreddit. Prior to that, I had no idea people could hide if they were a mod.

    The best is people hiding their entire post history when it's circumvented if you're not in old reddit. Not that anyone should use new reddit, but opening a profile in a private window and searching their posts with a space will show everything. That's a real easy way to see actual bad faith posters.

    This kinda sucks in my eyes and just turns reddit into even more bubbly but i can see why it is useful when facing trolls.

  • ngl, this months trading post feels like the "worst" we ever had

    Yeah, the only thing I'm slightly interested in is the turtle mount and that's purely for the +1 factor and not because I actually like it.

    I'll probably just end up buying my frozen item and sticking the turtle in that place instead.

    Been saving up a lot of tendies for the next trading post anniversary event.

    I like it better than the ones that lean too heavily into a holiday's theme (I saved so much this past November with all the food cosmetics), but it's definitely a bland one.

    The crusader stuff is cool if you're gearing up your pally for Midnight, but that's pretty much all I got out of it lol.

    just seems to be a very low amount of items, and almost all of then are just the ussual "trading post item in another color again"

  • The year has just started and WoW has already been saved by the addition of a chain bikini.

    At least judging by the mainsub.

    And simultaneously say it was killed by dracthyr and mechagnomes.

    overnight the mods did some cleanup in that original thread. the OP was hornyposting all over the thread about how sad some clevage was covered up and 'to be perfect, wow needs a boob slider' along with a screenshot from BDO that was a player character with the biggest boobs i've ever seen in a video game.

    good stuff.

    Am I the only one who thinks the chainkini looks kind of meh?

    I'm not a fan of the overall design, but I admit I was impressed by the amount of 3d elements. From previews, I expected it to be a regular painted-on item. Now I want a purple-tinted one for my night elves.

    Its not really all that exciting in my mind either, but I guess it lets people live out their Red Sonja fantasies or whatever.

    I am very much glad that its the same across the bodies though, that Kul Tiran post on the mainsub is peak beauty standards.

  • So... now that TWW is almost finished... What was The War Within about? I'm not being facetious, this is a serious question. To be fair I forget a quest as soon as I finished them, but I had a weird taste of things not going anywhere, like anduin, thrall etc hearing the radiant song.
    I know this is a trilogy but eh, idk, when you finish fellowship of the ring you feel like a chapter ended and you're going to the next.
    Maybe I'm just dum dum, but I dont see the vision of the xpac lol

    What was it about? Basically just pursuing Xalatath / the Dark Heart. It starts with us trying to thwart her alliance with the Nerubians, then Alleria breaks the heart so she has to go to Gallywix to repair it, and then the Ethereals steal it so we briefly team up with her to stop Dimensius before she gets the heart back again. Now she’s on to the next part of whatever she’s up to.

    To add on to this, I think it's worthwhile to consider what we did/achieved in the expansion, because it's a pretty hefty list.

    • Made contact with the Earthen of Khaz Algar, mended the schism in their society, learned more about their history with the Titans and the Titan's history with Azeroth, and helped them renounce the Titan's edicts.

    • Met and befriended the Hallowfall Arathi, and learned about a previously unknown Arathi Empire, consisting of the descendants of Humans and Elves, and centered around worship of the Sacred Flame.

    • Fought the Sureki forces in Azj Kahet, toppling their Queen with the assistance of an internal rebellion. In a major confrontation with the Nerubians, Alleria broke the Dark Heart, and Anduin reconnected with the Light.

    • Liberated Undermine from Gallywix's rule, killing him and further interrupting Xal'atath's plans.

    • Made contact with members of the Haranir, a previously unknown race with a deep connection to Azeroth's Worldsoul.

    • Reconnected with the Brokers and Ethereals, learned the true history of K'aresh, and restored it's Worldsoul. Thanks to a temporary alliance with Xal'atath, we also defeat the Void Lord Dimensius, one of the most powerful cosmic entities in existence.

    I understand what people mean when they say the expansion suffered from being hijacked into a setup for the trilogy, and granted a lot of this is planting seeds for the future, but we still did quite a bit, all in the pursuit of Xal'atath.

    its imo kinda obvious that TWW started as a "normal" expansion, and then halfway trought development got changed to be "part1 of the trilogy", hence why it feels so disconnected at points

  • While waiting in solo shuffle queue I decided to go to Suramar and farm some ancient mana for some decor. It was surprising how lively the general chat was from other people also farming decor. It's good to see the old world so lively.

  • So, am I just getting lucky with the comments I see or does it seem like we're at the point in time where some people are slowly warming up to Shadowlands?

    Like don't get me wrong, people still think it shot their dog for the most part but it feels like lately I've been seeing more people just accept it for what it was and not treat it like the worst thing ever.

    I know its a cycle with WoW expansions, but Shadowlands discourse felt a bit too different.

    SL’s two expansions back now. Right on schedule nostalgia to kick in and make people miss.

    Exact cycle that’s repeated since TBC was announced.

    Current expansions the worst thing ever. Previous expansion was a little better but was still bad. Two expansions back was good. The next expansion will be the death of wow.

    It always goes that way.

    I think people just want the cosmetics. I still don't think anyone is warming up to the story.

    While I doubt they'll touch SL for years to come, Shadowlands could make for an excellent Remix. Everyone could ignore the plot and farm all the transmog/mounts they want while bypassing the slow anima farm.

    I find it funny that whenever someone wants to compliment something about SL it has to be preceded by "We all know SL was the worst thing in existence but...". Like they can't just say what they liked about it lol

    Gotta make sure they don't get jumped for accepting the Blizzard bribe.

  • Kinda wanna post pictures of my half sleeve tattoo (theme is an Ode to MMO's) I got last week, but worried about weird tribalism between games, and my skin complexion.

  • I got a Battle.net gift card for christmas, so I bought the original Warcraft games and have been playing them over the past few days. I've been having a blast even though I know for all intents and purposes the first two games are basically non-canon. Though, it does feel really weird playing Warcraft 2 and seeing the emphasis on oil. It makes sense given how mechanized Azeroth is, but I guess I've never thought about how much oil is needed for all of these inventions since WoW never really brings it up. Oil isn't as supremely important in WoW as it is in real life despite all of these fantastical machines clearly needing oil and gasoline to run.

    Like it makes sense that there would be offshore oil rigs and refineries and oil tankers to keep gnomish and goblin machines running, but I've never ever seen that in WoW so it still shocked me a bit playing these old games. If Blizzard wants to reignite the faction war, just make it all about oil.

  • Hot take (Midnight spoilers): >! Eitrigg joining the Sons of Lothar is completely fine and in character for him and the group !

    Your spoiler tag didn't work (Unless that was intentional and i just ruined a joke)

    Shit, i'm so sorry, no it’s not a joke. I don’t know why the spoiler tag didn’t work. I’m going to try editing my comment.

    Try leaving a space between the letters and the exclamation marks

    Nope, it’s not working. Maybe I should just delete my comment, even though there are replies without spoilers under it.

    if you're using new reddit those markers dont seem to work anymore. you have to press the "Aa" button (on pc) and mark the words you want spoilered and press the spoiler button

    holy fuck it worked thank you

    The sons of lothar were already barely a concept. Just a cool name for an alliance hit squad. They had a "presce nce" in wc2 but people act as if theyre a recognizable and foundational part of the lore.

    Also, metzen made the sons of lothar. Eitrigg is his baby. He wrote a fucking book about eitrigg. Im sorry if theres someone who has authority on that, its metzen

    People act like the Sons of Lothar were the KKK whose only goal was to murder orcs. Like no, they're goal is to defend Azeroth, killing orcs was just a consequence of that at the time.

    People are losing their minds over Eitrigg joining them. Just look at the recent post on the Warcraft Lore sub the main sub had the same kind of overreaction too.

  • Druids should be buffed. They are honestly the best class, and their talents and abilities and throughput should reflect that.

    deal: buff druid EXCEPT boomkins, boomkins dont deserve anything good

  • Mom said it is my turn to post about shaman tank spec this week

    Mage time healing spec when?

    Only if I get to post about how I would definitely play Dracthyr if they could chose any visage.

    wait first until i made my post how i would play Rogue if it was WotLK Combat again

    Ive heard enough, its my turn to make a joke about the ret paladin discord

    Okay but making fun of that guys tantrum is funny tho

  • Woke of Rizzcraft: 67night