Before anything, allow me to say that i play wow since 2009, and i must say, farming ressonance crystals is the worst currency farm i ever seen. Why? Simple, because very few things gives you them.

1 - delves is the nost insulting of all because you loot those curios just for 3 crystals?

2 - in undermine, you only get like 20 crystals from chests if you do the jobs or buying chests with the cans you loot when digging trash.

3 - the exchanges for crystals are ridiculous. 2k undercoins for 250 crystals? In k'aresh, the phase diving weekly that give you some tokens, only 50 crystals per token? It's simply insulting.

They add so much stuff, expensive stuff, and now with new decors, it's impossible to buy everything if you don't play with your alts as well. In other expansions it was easier to get currency because they dropped in literally everything you did. And yes, i exchanged kej for crystals as well, but it's not enough.

All i ask is to reward us for simply playing the game, not playing the game in a specific way

  • The system is definitely designed where using alts is the only reasonable way to earn them efficiently. I'd argue it's faster to level an alt and do the weeklies than to try to farm on your main with the exp decrease to 80.

  • Yeah it's cooked. The price of the decor too is wild vs how rare crystals are. Like no one buys one lamp, or one fence part, or one section of energy tube. You need to buy multiple to use practically and when they are 600-1000 crystals a pop you burn through your supply very quickly.

    Crystals should be dropping where ever Valor stones drop. Or be able to do a 1 for 1 trade with them.

    If rares at least dropped like 70-100 crystals, it already would be a big deal

    Also, M+ should drop 50-100 per key level, raid bosses 100/200/300 per norm/heroic/myth boss, and ~50 per PvP box and 100 for call to arms box.

    The uh... Azj-kahet weekly is best, IMO. You get like 1k kej for completing it, which can be turned into 500 resonance.

    I would love it if I could turn my gilded crests into then once you have gilded of the ethereal. My shaman has like 400 gilded now that I can't upgrade anything anymore and crafting gear won't net any upgrades

    My valor stones have been capped for ages; would love to trade them for crystals.

    I’m very conservative with what I buy since there’s a cap of 5000 items in storage for some reason.

    apparently some guy bought entirely too much and broke housing whenever they opened the interface on the ptr/beta

    i'm pretty sure they'll increase that limit as they get more data, just like outdoor placement

    I’m hoping they increase it a lot, like 10x at least.

  • I just find it really fucking dumb that I've played the entire expansion, and I don't have enough crystals to buy most everything. I mostly engage with world content, M+, and casual raiding these days, but I've been actively playing the entire expansion so far and still have a grossly small amount of resonance crystals.

    At this point I'll just wait for the inevitable Remix in like 10 years.

    Compare with Dragonflight where they actively threw resources at us towards the end of the expansion. Especially the Emerald Dream mount and pet currencies.

    EVERY exp always threw resources at us at some point. They could've just buffed the crystal drops in s3 since we are stuck in it for a long time

    It's dumb that you can only buy everything if you use alts as well.

  • Convert your Kej to stones if you havent

    To earn Resource Crystals (to buy home stuff), I recommend using the Severed Threads contract each week. This way you earn rep with the N00rubians, and all three sub-factions. Unlike Undermine, Severed Thread contracts reward rep to the sub-factions, so you are working towards 4 different caches with this single rep grind.

    Each week, I will also spend time clearing that area of world quests for Kej (two sets every week), and doing those little spider specific activities for 50 Kej each. If you swear alliegence to Vizier each week, you will earn an extra 20% Kej too.

    Kej can then be converted 2:1 to Resonance Crystals in the main town in the middle of that map at a vendor.

    I pretty much have every single item in the game for crystals, and another 200k more.

    Nice, but can you clarify the 20% buff? Why are you saying it “applies” when converting kej to resonance crystals? Doesn’t it only apply to earning the kej itself?

    But that is a pretty good tip about clearing kej WQs too. It actually feels kinda nice to have a use for some of these obscure currencies

    Yes I’m sorry. You’re right. It doesn’t apply for the conversion from Kej to crystals. I misspoke and corrected my post.

    No worries, thanks for clarifying. That contract tip is really good too btw. Cheers!

    Yeah. 2:1 Kej to Resonance but you can't buy multiples of the exchange coin, so have a lot of bag space ready. You can't even hotkey the item either. I had to click 98 manually from my bags.

    They truly captured the full experience of using an international currency exchange service at an airport.

    Make a macro to /use the item name

    There’s an addon called openables although I’m not sure it works for this specific item, it might speed things up.

    Khajiit has crystals, if you have Kej.

  • They really cocked up the crystal economy. When shit costs 15000 then getting 30 at a time or something is ridiculous. Especially now that we are the end of the expansion the crystals should be handed out to the max. Especially if the rewards are blocked behind reputation anyway

    What’s really frustrating is that the orbs give 1-3 crystals each, just like the Dreamsurge orbs, but everything is at least 10x as expensive as Dreamsurge stuff (or more).

  • It is a horrible grind, ive been doing everything and still need 300k+ to get everything. Farming the Azj-Kahet rep is the easiest way to get them ive found

  • They should massively increase once Midnight launches as the previous expansions resources gained are increased (order resources, war resource, etc).

  • You do the light event in hallowfall. Did those dailies for maybe the first few weeks of the expansion There's a lot of them when you light all the lamps. Ive been swimming in crystals and buying everything since. I don't play alts.

  • Are you doing WQs and special assignments? That's where I've gotten the bulk of mine. I never seem to run out because I run my toons through WQs and do all the special assignments WQs.

    I do everything i can when i have time. But as i said, it's hard if don't use alts.

    Heck, it's worse for new players

    Idk if you're trying to buy decor and running out, yep that's harder. I'm not buying much decor and just either waiting or crafting it.

    Decor is the worst part, because nobody will buy "only 1" from some of them, like lamps, chairs or tables.

    The fact that they made a system when unlocking a decor doesn't allow unlimited use (as there is a cap on the house itself anyway) is wild.

    I mean it's pretty obvious that it's either for engagement or for store items (or both...) but still, it's bad.

  • Yeah, it's annoying how the most efficient way to farm them seems to be doing the three Dornogal weeklies every three weeks on all your alts.

    Even playing constantly since TWW is out, I am still missing like 200k.

  • Delves cutios absolutely are infuriating: 3 resonance crystals, a useless 1hr cd item with a buff that vanishes if you step indoors, or a screaming quartz worth 3 bountiful delves of undercoins. I'm always starved for those since Kyvesa almost never attacks without one.

  • Definitely felt all expansion like the placeholder values for the crystals somehow made it to live and then they never fixed it, some of these sources of crystals give an insultingly little amount like the delves

  • I've gotten most of them from doing the weeklies and from the dark area of hallowfall. You get just an absurd amount of them from that area. If you're farming alts, you also get a boost of them for the first threshold of each race that you meet (bronze/silver/gold) per-alt so that's a nice one time bonus per alt for each race.

  • Just get some alts, the fastest way is to do the eco dome weekly in Ka’resh. Gives you 900. The dailies take like 10-15 minutes max on a character. So you can get several thousand within an hour or two.

    Interesting to choose eco dome as your go-to. I suppose that’s the one most consistently available, but “do 1 seasonal dungeon (including timewalking)” from Faerin, when it’s up, is really quick too.

  • Many of the weeklies give 200 when you do them on alts. Do them on a bunch of alts and it adds up (also a decent amount of gold).

    As i mentioned, you needing to have alts, shows that the system is stupid. Every other expansion o managed to buy everything without the need for alts. Idk why be so stingy with crystals and having everything being so expensive

    Yeah, what I think people are missing about your point is there really is no reason for the rewards to be so lopsided (1000 crystals from an alt’s easy weekly quest compared to like 20 crystals your main earns in that time), which is not about you asking for it to take less time. It’s just arbitrary (and doesn’t even seem thought out/planned) for you to have to do pinnacle caches on alts to get any noticeable amount of crystals.

    And I’d really, really love to pick the devs’ brains about why they think undercoins should have such a poor exchange rate with crystals. I do multiple delves every week, have completed the delvers journey, and still don’t have very many undercoins, and nearly all of those will be spent on other things with nothing left over to convert to crystals even if the exchange rate was better.

    As it is, it feels like a noob-trap that punishes less knowledgeable players by basically taking their lunch money for nothing in return

  • This and the dragon isles base currency too. They feel like an unfun slog. I get why the amount you can earn is turned down when the xpac is current as they want stuff to last a while, but old currencies need to be way easier to obtain once the xpac is no longer current.

  • If you have alts, doing the weekly ecological succession is the best way.

    You get 900 RCs and 450 kej - which you convert to RC.

  • Consequence of the warband system. You will do the weekly quest on as many alts as possible every week and you will like it

    How is that a consequence of warbands? If anything, the more natural consequence would be that they make alts give you less rewards once you’ve done it once for the week in your warbands, which is what they did to the timewalking quest (500 badges first time, then 200 on alts).

    Having it give full rewards for all characters, like the weekly resonance quests do, is basically how it was pre-warbands.

  • The currency that pisses me off is the valorstones. They're always the bottleneck for upgrades not the crests which you'd assume would be harder to get.

    Thankfully they're getting rid of them for Midnight. I don't hate the idea of the crystals since its a simple expansion currency used for everything, that isn't intentionally tedious to get like garrison or orderhall supplies. But it's still grindy.

    What? How do you not stay capped on valorstones?

    Grindy is fine, but they reward you too few while everything is too expensive this exp

  • This is why I’ve made sure to keep casually doing the weeklies that give it, I’m sitting on a lot cuz there hasn’t been much to purchase with them tbh outside of mounts. Almost all of the transmog you can get randomly from playing the game like delves so I haven’t bothered to spend crystals on that kinda stuff.

  • Yeah it was hard getting crystals just for the mounts. And then they make the decor cost like the same for one window

  • I agree, but also add that I ended up with a legion (no pun intended) of alts and not even that helps to reach enough numbers to get everything.
    The rate seems similar to the dragon isles resources I couldn't get enough (though admittedly I started playing that exp way late).
    Now I see and endless grind of grinds without end and that bores me to hell, so I hope this things get adressed because I am enjoying the rest of the game so far :(

  • If you have alts the easiest way is to do the original 11.0 weeklies (archives, worldsoul, theater troupe, awakening the machine, delves etc) as each one gives 900+ crystals.

  • They know but they need to farm engagement from housing =D

    Man I'm already spending hours trying to place things with their bunk UI. I really don't get why people think we'd be "done with it in a week" if we just could actually obtain things without placing our balls in a vice.

  • I have a lot of alts that I did weekly quests on to get keys for the 500 delve coffer achievement.

    I still had to convert kej to afford all the decour, although to be fair I have everything else you can buy with crystals including the outfits that cost like 9k each.

    Doing worldsoul (pick an activity weekly) stacked with awakening the machine is pretty decent for crystals if you go the alt method, the mobs seem to have the same hp as the start of the expansion and most of the non "bosses" die to a gentle breeze.

  • The problem is the typical Blizzard one— they had multiple intended "good" sources of resonance crystals on release, a few of them were like 20% better than they intended once people figured out the mechanics, and so they nerfed acquisition rate by like 80% without adjusting any of the prices. Fittingly all these nerfs also happened right after the early access period ended, which... feels intentional. 

  • There already was so much stuff I still want to get before the housing items hit that I didn't know how to ever be able to afford, and now it has only gotten worse. The amount of them that is rewarded is minuscule. I really hope Blizz increases the numbers very noticeably.

  • Thats why im waiting till blizzard nerfs prices into the ground

  • The best way to farm them is by going on an alt and doing all the dragon riding races. I think the basic ones on gold give you like 90 crystals while the advanced versions are awarding 150+ per race.

  • Incase no one has mentioned it, skyriding races! Do all of em on a character for like 10k crystals, relatively painless and takes like 1.5 hours tops

  • Sorry, which vendor is selling decor for resonance crystals?

    Many npcs in undermine, the dornogal council quartermaster, the trust quartermaster in k'aresh. The addon home bound help a lot to see every vendor

    Ah.

    Okay. I’ll get that add on.

    Thanks!

  • May I ask how do you not have a massive stockpile of the crystals? IIRC I have something around 600k just lying around with no use.

  • somehow i almost got 2 million crystals...

  • Im sitting at like 280k crystals and i didnt even farm em.

  • Few things gives you them is what I seen

  • Just listing off the inefficient ways to farm the crystals isn't an argument that they're hard to get. Do the activities that actually give a good amount, and soon enough you'll be drowning in them too.

    If you're opening curios in delves for crystals you're just intentionally wasting your time.

    Do the weekly special assignments, then hop to an alt to do them again, repeat as necessary.

    You missed the point. What i meant was: it's stupid they reward you for only doing the weeklies for example. Previous expansions gave good amount of currency by doing literally anything. If you start now, you can still easily buy most things from old exps. New players in tww are screwed because you get too few crystals and everything is too expensive. I did every activity since launch, but if you are forced to play alts to have an efficient farm, then it's a stupid system. You should be rewarded by playing the game, not insulted by dropping a laughable amount of crystals from common content like killing rares

    I didn't miss the point, I just disagree with it. If you think crystals now are a new problem go read up on shadowlands anima, or WoD apexis crystals. This has been Blizzard's design philosophy for years and years to give players who were active and playing more than they'll need, and new or returning players something to do.

    Rares, like curios, are a bad use of your time if you want crystals so I don't know why you think bringing them up is relevant. WoW is a game of time management, you can't do everything and if you have a specific goal there is a specific activity you should do to achieve it.

    In the time you've spent here listing the bad ways to get crystals, just think of how many special assignment boxes you could've gotten lol

    But at least blizz did something about anima at some point, here, with crystals, blizz didn't gave a damn. 

    Apexis crystals were indeed the worst.

  • I rarely spend the current expansions currency, I save it up and then buy things when I find I need them for something.

    Now housing came along and I have a backlog of currency from all these expansions and I've had a blast. Lol

  • Can you transfer Lemix Characters then go to all the city vendors? Or is that not a thing?

  • I play a single main and have every item in the game plus another 200k crystals. However it does require you to play the entire game all season and not just spend a few hours farming.

  • Your problem is that you're buying "EVERYTHING". You don't need "EVERYTHING".

    You kinda do when that's how you get housing xp and also need 5 items to fill a bookshelf

    Your house probably looks like shit

    Or you just get the cheap bookshelves that are full of items. There's also no reason to power-level housing renown immediately, most of the exp comes from endeavors in Midnight. You have a serious addiction, you do not need "everything".

    You also don't need secondary resources to purchase 90% of the items for house exp. You get your first copy from the quest/achievement/etc. that provided the item. Have you been wasting your resources on items you don't want that don't give experience? Because that would be pretty hilarious.

  • “It’s impossible to buy everything”.

    What is with some people’s expectation that they should easily be able to buy EVERYTHING?

    Choose which items you want most and farm for them.

  • Did you play this expansion? I have 10000s of crystals to spare after buying everything I could find. Granted I didn't buy 10 of everything

  • You know you can just fly around and pick up crystals, right? They are literally EVERYWHERE. Those shiny little orbs that float around in Hallowfall. Every time you fly thru one, you get a crystal. It sounds like you want decor, without any effort.