It's not necessarily outright poisonous, at least not in the low dosages you'd get with a hull/habitat breach before you get a mask on, but IIRC Quaritch states in A1 that without a mask you'll be hypoxic within thirty seconds, unconscious in three to five minutes, and dead in fifteen.
It's close enough to our nitrogen/oxygen mix that Na'vi can breath our air for a little while without harm, so it's probable that Pandora's atmosphere is also mostly nitrogen/oxygen, with a third part in the mix that's both toxic to humans, and generally required for Pandoran life but not immediately fatal without.
Their attitude seems to be similar to working at very high altitude, where being without a mask is bad, but not an immediate "you're dead" situation. If something goes wrong, staying calm and casually pulling on your Exopack is better than panicking and fumbling with it.
I think canonically it's mostly carbon dioxide. Their flora probably just never started doing photosynthesis. Na'vi can breathe our air for a while because it's 425 ppm of CO2 (probably more in the 22nd century), but there isn't enough oxygen to sustain us in Pandoran air so we suffocate.
With Pandora being covered in flora and literally everything having energy-intensive complex nervous systems and bioluminescence, with most fauna being huge by Earth standards, they would need a lot of oxygen or some other metabolic gas, possibly both, just to not immediately die.
It's possible that an extreme oxygen content combined with whatever else they're breathing just shreds human lung tissue. There's a reason divers can't breath pure oxygen indefinitely.
It would also explain why Pandoran life can survive for short periods in Earth-normal atmosphere, as while the oxygen content is probably lower, it's also probably at a higher pressure since Pandoran gravity is so low.
Personally, though, I think there's just something in the air mix that fucks us up, as Exopacks are just filtering Pandoran atmosphere, meaning the stuff we need is already there in the proper quantities. Also the whole Kiri's Magic Bushido Hands giving Spider field-expedient gene therapy thing, which is effectively doing the same thing but biologically.
I'm not speculating, it's the canon explanation. Whether it makes sense scientifically is another question, but the fact is that the thing humans are filtering with exo-packs is just carbon dioxide.
The atmosphere of Pandora does have enough oxygen for humans (21–22 %), but too much carbon dioxide (16–18 %). The Na'vi have special organs (similar to kidneys) called wichow that take advantage of this atmosphere to extract greater amounts of oxygen for their bloodstream. These organs use carbon dioxide and water in their bodies and convert them into methane and oxygen. The methane is exhaled back into the atmosphere. The extra oxygen is added to the Na'vi bloodstream to help power their extra-large bodies and powerful muscles. This process accounts for the small amount of methane in the Pandoran atmosphere. At rest or when the Na'vi are sleeping, those same organs can convert some small amounts of methane back into carbon dioxide and water to replenish their water supply if needed. This is why humans can survive with just a filtration system (exo-packs), but the Na'vi need higher amounts of carbon dioxide to function. The high level of carbon dioxide and other gases such as hydrogen sulfide keep Na'vi blood pH at 5.25–5.75, which is more acidic than human blood (7.35–7.45).
To be fair, I was wrong about the oxygen. And I've been trying to find the original source for this explanation, but it's present in both the Avatar wiki and the Wikipedia article for the fictional universe of Avatar.
EDIT: See below, it's from the official tie-in game.
I feel like this originated from a Fandom article or something, because that's not worded how I would expect from an official source like the artbook.
Not saying you're wrong specifically, just that the source you're looking at might be fanon of some kind. Wouldn't be the first time that a Fandom article's fanon made it into a Wikipedia page, so it's possible.
I am also somewhat suspicious of the wichow process as described here as it would be energy negative for the Na'vi to synthesise oxygen from carbon dioxide and water then use it to produce the same chemicals again from chemical respiration in the muscles. It is listed on the Wikipedia entry for the Fictional Universe of Avatar, but is unsourced.
Regardless of that issue, the carbon dioxide concentration listed there would be fatal at earth pressures as any concentration above 100000ppm (10%) is immediately fatal (from https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/idlh/124389.html) regardless of available oxygen. As Pandora has a surface pressure of 0.9atm (from the wiki) this would be equivalent to 11% CO2 on Pandora by partial pressure, which is less than the listed >18%, so it would seem the main thing the exopacks is doing is filtering out the CO2 to provide an enriched oxygen supply free of a lethal concentration of CO2 inside the mask.
The reaction described there (CO2+2H2O->CH4+2O2) requires roughly the energy of one glucose going through oxidative phosphorylation while only providing 1/3 the oxygen needed for it to do so, so they're burning about 3/4 of the energy used to move just to... avoid lactic acid fermentation, I guess? You're right that it doesn't seem like a very useful adaptation.
Yeah, if it's unsourced it's probably fanon of some kind. That said, it doesn't really change the functional realities of what we observe happening.
Occam's razor suggests it's a roughly oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere with some kind of trace gas in it that fucks with human lungs, which combined with the slightly lower atmospheric pressure induces rapid hypoxia.
Conversely, Pandoran life can breath our air just fine for short periods, so whatever our air is missing is probably needed (but not immediately critical), either because it's actively being metabolized, or it's like humans breathing pure O2, where we need something technically useless to dilute the mix enough that our lungs' machinery doesn't shred itself.
It's also possible that Pandora isn't oxygen/nitrogen at all, and instead is oxygen and something else like methane, which would totally explain why they can breath our air and we can't breathe theirs, as nitrogen isn't super volatile biologically IIRC.
Wasn't it a whole plot point that the main character guys pod got cracked and direct exposure to the air killed him so they had to do tree magic to transfer his soul entirely into his blue avatar body permanently?
yeah but it seemed like you would have more safety protocols and all that when the air can kill you. more than some masks that can crack, slip or malfunction easily
No he was fine. I literally just finished the 1st movie like an hour ago. He got a mask on in time, spent several weeks at the now mostly deserted human base, and then transferred into his avatar just to get out of his crippled old body.
It's filled with volcanic gasses like sulphur dioxide and carbon monoxide, plus a hell of a lot of good ol' carbon dioxide. Pandora is geologically extremely active because of the tidal forces of the gas giant it orbits. The biosphere's evolved to put up with that to the point that 'clean' air isn't good enough for them long-term.
Deconstructed colonization: the main character's civilization engages in a large project to colonize an alien planet, but upon arrival, the colonizers just become sexual submissives for the locals.
...Wait, hold on, this is just two steps away from all the racist-baiting porn that I hate, ABORT! ABORT IMMEDIATELY!
Avatar franchise has to the absolute epitomy of worldjerking.
Imagine making the most expensive worldbuilding project in history only to have the author's barely disguised fetish injected into the most bland unimaginative plot possible.
The plot existed to justify Avatar to the studio to get the movie made.
If James Cameron didn't need to do that, he would've made a 17hr Sir David Attenborough-style nature documentary, completely devoid of any humans, purely about his autistic SpecEvo dreamworld that Eywa beamed into his head fully-formed when he was ten.
(Not joking, the world of Pandora literally came to him in a dream when he was a kid, he has like a dozen thick-ass notebooks completely filled)
I've never seen a single avatar movie but I'd watch that. Honestly more and more these days I realize I just like the world building in sicif and fantasy and don't really like the narrative. Most of the narrative is bad anyway.
I just find it weird that 1. the in-universe 9/11 was a false flag inside job and 2. it ended up having no significance at all. The Human-Mangkwan (latter of which are both implicated and actually damaged human infrastructure) relationship barely deteriorates except for the General being more pissed off about it, but she already was before, so nothing changes.
Now, obviously, the US-Saudi Arabia relationship didn't deteriorate after 9/11, but it's not like the US just did nothing and forgot
I get that there's plenty of stuff that one could read into and make weird, I'm not stupid. The avatar world to me is just a really standard "white savior" but still anti-colonial narrative. It's fetish content only in the sense that ANY romantic attachment in a colonial story is fetish content.
Would you rather have had a colonial story that was just aggressively chaste? I think it's incredibly naive not to talk about attachment and romance across cultures and bodies in a colonial narrative. Without sexual compatibility b/w na'vi & humans, it's just the fucking Lorax with guns for 3, three hour movies.
Like, ok, the aliens are a slightly different shape than humans ... oooo ... Must be a kink about size. The design takes cues from specific indigenous cultures ... definitely not just a narrative tool for mass market or a nod at existing films in the colonial genre. Oooo they do weird hair stuff ... must be a kink about ... hair stuff?
It's not the smartest series, but it's really really obviously trying to be a modernized Pocahontas (and similar) so it SHOULD be nodding at the problematic content and fetishization of those historic works.
I don't mind the author's barely disguised fetish. Actually, it is respectable how blatant it is. What I find bland is the story. Even ignoring the white savior part, I hate how infantilized the Na'avi are.
A large factor behind colonization of the Americas, or at least Mesoamerica and the Andes, was that it was a powder keg of empires. The subjects of the Aztec were waiting for an opportunity to rebel, and the Inca empire was already engaged in a brutal civil war between the Sapa Inca and his brother. The Europeans exploited these tensions to conquer the continent.
But on Pandora, it seems they're all Taino, well, except the fire tribe but even they seem pretty tame compared to the imperial military of precolumbian states. Like, I get not going all in into deep colonial politics in the first movie, but we're on part 3. This level of simplicity just undermines the anticolonial theme at this point.
Don't forget that like an estimated 90% of native population were wiped out by smallpox within 20 years of first contact. Europeans were able take over due to massive plague.
I've heard on the avatar subreddit that there's a redacted worldbuilding document about Na'Vi males having a smaller penis relative to their body size compared to humans. Unfortunately I had no source to work with...
this kinda shit is like raceplay but with more layers of abstraction, so it feels less weird, cuz avatar is fundamentally just dances with wolves with blue people. i mean uh when the space alien tribal mommy
I've never seen the sequels but isn't the racist army guy in a navi body by the time he meets the evil navi lady? Why is he always drawn as human with her, or are there other humans that ally with her or something?
I actually had a concept for an Avatar inspired conflict in my world, Latoria is a medieval fantasy world which is a moon orbiting a blue gas giant named Atlas.
The US military discovers Latoria via a portal; technically, Latoria exists within another universe, not just another system. As such, the US would set up a base near the portal and launch expeditions and record footage of the locals. Later, various companies had extraction rights to take resources from the land, while they weren't allowed to harm or interact with locals, the US did nothing to stop it as such, many companies encroached on tribal land and killed many natives, resulting in various militaries in the land to respond and fight back, triggering the war.
The protagonist is David, a Beastkin who saw all his friends die to the US military and seeks revenge, fighting a guerrilla war. He befriends an elf woman who teaches him stealth and magic, and even meets a soldier from Earth named Wyatt who defects and helps David fight back.
Short answer: No, the protagonist is part of the fantasy army. What do you expect?
Long answer:
The war was mostly fought between the United Sovereigns of Autonomia (USA) against the United States of America plus some native allies.
David, while being a Knight of Autonomia, mostly fought for all of Latoria with the desire to drive what he perceived as "demons" from the land. David used various tactics in order to fight and help the Sovereigns win the war.
The main tactic was stealth; he would train as a skilled assassin, doing what he knew in hunting to fight off US soldiers, who would be limited in their abilities and movement due to the nature of portal technology. He also would learn various forms of magic to improve his combat abilities and stealth, which caused soldiers to fear him like the boogeyman, calling him the Devil of Avalon.
But one of the most important tactics was the use of the military's guns. David would steal and learn about American weapons to fight back against the enemy. He would even combine magic and technology by creating guns with infinite ammo.
Fear tactics were also important. David used fear to scare the American soldiers, causing them to flee at the mere sight of him or desert due to the belief that the Devil was coming for them.
Another major part was turning the US's allies against them or stopping larger kingdoms from allying with the US. David managed to convince the Orc Kingdom of Heim to join the fight against the US after the US allied with the (white) Human supremacist empire of Illustria. David would also wreak havoc on Illustrian soldiers.
David would also hunt and fight the Obsidian Coil, a clan of sorcerers that is Latoria's version of a Dark Lord. The Obsidian Coil was one of the US's main allies in the war as they partnered up with weapons companies to make magitech suits; however, David killed the leader of the clan, causing many sorcerers to cut ties with the US, some defecting to the Sovereigns, and only a few choosing to stay with the promise of extra money.
This slowed down weapons production and anti-magic research. David also worked with Wyatt, who was also a journalist, to interview and record atrocities the US committed on the natives and smuggling them to Earth, leading to uproar and on the homefront.
Jeez imagine if she turned off your exopack and made you beg and makes you like idk... like lick her feet or like something like that. Haha. Could you imagine ha. Would be wild
Most racist Na'vi and most racist human the moment they meet: "We hate this guy more than our racism."
White supremacist and his black girlfriend
But enough about the Vicepresident of the United States.
Just the VP? Damn we must be slipping. Used to be half the Senate was like that.
she ain't black, she's Indian, unlike the previous VP which was both if I'm not mistaken.
That didn't stop people from calling Mindy Kaling's Velma black
"You like blue girls? I love 'em. I LOVE 'em!"
Rockwell at the NOI conference
this guy Nation of Islams
Wholesome :3
Good for him. Good for him.
Also what’s the device on his hip supposed to do when it’s activated? Call for help?
That's his Exopack.
I.E. the life support unit keeping him from asphyxiating, because the Pandoran atmosphere is absurdly toxic to humans.
is it really that toxic? Only watched the 2 movies but their mindset about the masks seemed pretty half-assed and flimsy
It's not necessarily outright poisonous, at least not in the low dosages you'd get with a hull/habitat breach before you get a mask on, but IIRC Quaritch states in A1 that without a mask you'll be hypoxic within thirty seconds, unconscious in three to five minutes, and dead in fifteen.
It's close enough to our nitrogen/oxygen mix that Na'vi can breath our air for a little while without harm, so it's probable that Pandora's atmosphere is also mostly nitrogen/oxygen, with a third part in the mix that's both toxic to humans, and generally required for Pandoran life but not immediately fatal without.
Their attitude seems to be similar to working at very high altitude, where being without a mask is bad, but not an immediate "you're dead" situation. If something goes wrong, staying calm and casually pulling on your Exopack is better than panicking and fumbling with it.
I think canonically it's mostly carbon dioxide. Their flora probably just never started doing photosynthesis. Na'vi can breathe our air for a while because it's 425 ppm of CO2 (probably more in the 22nd century), but there isn't enough oxygen to sustain us in Pandoran air so we suffocate.
I would say it's more likely the opposite.
With Pandora being covered in flora and literally everything having energy-intensive complex nervous systems and bioluminescence, with most fauna being huge by Earth standards, they would need a lot of oxygen or some other metabolic gas, possibly both, just to not immediately die.
It's possible that an extreme oxygen content combined with whatever else they're breathing just shreds human lung tissue. There's a reason divers can't breath pure oxygen indefinitely.
It would also explain why Pandoran life can survive for short periods in Earth-normal atmosphere, as while the oxygen content is probably lower, it's also probably at a higher pressure since Pandoran gravity is so low.
Personally, though, I think there's just something in the air mix that fucks us up, as Exopacks are just filtering Pandoran atmosphere, meaning the stuff we need is already there in the proper quantities. Also the whole Kiri's Magic Bushido Hands giving Spider field-expedient gene therapy thing, which is effectively doing the same thing but biologically.
(Spoilered text is for A3)
I'm not speculating, it's the canon explanation. Whether it makes sense scientifically is another question, but the fact is that the thing humans are filtering with exo-packs is just carbon dioxide.
To be fair, I was wrong about the oxygen. And I've been trying to find the original source for this explanation, but it's present in both the Avatar wiki and the Wikipedia article for the fictional universe of Avatar.
EDIT: See below, it's from the official tie-in game.
Hmm...
I feel like this originated from a Fandom article or something, because that's not worded how I would expect from an official source like the artbook.
Not saying you're wrong specifically, just that the source you're looking at might be fanon of some kind. Wouldn't be the first time that a Fandom article's fanon made it into a Wikipedia page, so it's possible.
I am also somewhat suspicious of the wichow process as described here as it would be energy negative for the Na'vi to synthesise oxygen from carbon dioxide and water then use it to produce the same chemicals again from chemical respiration in the muscles. It is listed on the Wikipedia entry for the Fictional Universe of Avatar, but is unsourced.
Regardless of that issue, the carbon dioxide concentration listed there would be fatal at earth pressures as any concentration above 100000ppm (10%) is immediately fatal (from https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/idlh/124389.html) regardless of available oxygen. As Pandora has a surface pressure of 0.9atm (from the wiki) this would be equivalent to 11% CO2 on Pandora by partial pressure, which is less than the listed >18%, so it would seem the main thing the exopacks is doing is filtering out the CO2 to provide an enriched oxygen supply free of a lethal concentration of CO2 inside the mask.
The reaction described there (CO2+2H2O->CH4+2O2) requires roughly the energy of one glucose going through oxidative phosphorylation while only providing 1/3 the oxygen needed for it to do so, so they're burning about 3/4 of the energy used to move just to... avoid lactic acid fermentation, I guess? You're right that it doesn't seem like a very useful adaptation.
Yeah, if it's unsourced it's probably fanon of some kind. That said, it doesn't really change the functional realities of what we observe happening.
Occam's razor suggests it's a roughly oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere with some kind of trace gas in it that fucks with human lungs, which combined with the slightly lower atmospheric pressure induces rapid hypoxia.
Conversely, Pandoran life can breath our air just fine for short periods, so whatever our air is missing is probably needed (but not immediately critical), either because it's actively being metabolized, or it's like humans breathing pure O2, where we need something technically useless to dilute the mix enough that our lungs' machinery doesn't shred itself.
It's also possible that Pandora isn't oxygen/nitrogen at all, and instead is oxygen and something else like methane, which would totally explain why they can breath our air and we can't breathe theirs, as nitrogen isn't super volatile biologically IIRC.
Wasn't it a whole plot point that the main character guys pod got cracked and direct exposure to the air killed him so they had to do tree magic to transfer his soul entirely into his blue avatar body permanently?
yeah but it seemed like you would have more safety protocols and all that when the air can kill you. more than some masks that can crack, slip or malfunction easily
No he was fine. I literally just finished the 1st movie like an hour ago. He got a mask on in time, spent several weeks at the now mostly deserted human base, and then transferred into his avatar just to get out of his crippled old body.
Yeah it was quite significant plot point from the first movie about the atmosphere
See that’s what Big Pandora WANTS you to think
It's filled with volcanic gasses like sulphur dioxide and carbon monoxide, plus a hell of a lot of good ol' carbon dioxide. Pandora is geologically extremely active because of the tidal forces of the gas giant it orbits. The biosphere's evolved to put up with that to the point that 'clean' air isn't good enough for them long-term.
It should automatically call the rescue team in case of a pelvis fracture.
[insert obligatory reference to Futurama episode "Amazon Women in the Mood" here]
Oh god yes. It's like the only strong woman joke
Pelvis Fracture Detected
Morphine administered
Its his goon-ometer
I will not explain
Deconstructed colonization: the main character's civilization engages in a large project to colonize an alien planet, but upon arrival, the colonizers just become sexual submissives for the locals.
...Wait, hold on, this is just two steps away from all the racist-baiting porn that I hate, ABORT! ABORT IMMEDIATELY!
It's a slight modification to the Spanish plans to colonize everywhere they go: plant your flag and immediately breed with the locals.
Racist-baiting or historical accuracy? Call it.
Sounds super hot tbh
Reverse HDG
The Portuguese/Captain Kirk method of colonization:
1) Fuck the locals
2) Make Xeno-Compatability settings be on
3) Watch 6k pops per month show up and you have a labor force (the children will yearn for the mines!)
As a Trekkie, I don't know which Trek myth in this meme I hate the most.
The "Kirk Drift" part or the "Federation is imperialist" part.
Mirror Universe Federation then. They even have the skimpy uniforms.
Natives gotta be sexy to merit empathy!
Avatar franchise has to the absolute epitomy of worldjerking.
Imagine making the most expensive worldbuilding project in history only to have the author's barely disguised fetish injected into the most bland unimaginative plot possible.
The plot existed to justify Avatar to the studio to get the movie made.
If James Cameron didn't need to do that, he would've made a 17hr Sir David Attenborough-style nature documentary, completely devoid of any humans, purely about his autistic SpecEvo dreamworld that Eywa beamed into his head fully-formed when he was ten.
(Not joking, the world of Pandora literally came to him in a dream when he was a kid, he has like a dozen thick-ass notebooks completely filled)
Man, I'd love to watch a 17hr Sir David Attenborough narrated documentary about Pandora.
I've never seen a single avatar movie but I'd watch that. Honestly more and more these days I realize I just like the world building in sicif and fantasy and don't really like the narrative. Most of the narrative is bad anyway.
Movie studios suck ass. Let my man make his autism project without meddling.
I'd honestly kill for a World of Kong-style book for Pandora.
I fucking hated avatar but a fully spec evo doc in the same setting would have been so fucking cool.
didn't he ask for a composer to make alien music but it worked too well and they swapped for more normal soundtrack?
Yeah they did, it was rejected for being too hard for the audience to connect to from memory
That is some pussy footed focus tested bullshit.
I just find it weird that 1. the in-universe 9/11 was a false flag inside job and 2. it ended up having no significance at all. The Human-Mangkwan (latter of which are both implicated and actually damaged human infrastructure) relationship barely deteriorates except for the General being more pissed off about it, but she already was before, so nothing changes.
Now, obviously, the US-Saudi Arabia relationship didn't deteriorate after 9/11, but it's not like the US just did nothing and forgot
Avatar would be freaking amazing if it was in the hands of a good writer and director instead of James Cameron.
Seriously though, even the themes are alright. It's just the writing that feels too generic and borderline cringe.
The genericism is intentional. If James Cameron had his way, there wouldn't be a plot. It exists purely to justify the series to the studio.
In Jimmy's ideal world, he'd just narrate his dreamworld like Sir David Attenborough for 17hrs straight.
Uj/ a scifi nature documentary on pandora would cool as fuck
For real, you'd think he'd ask them to just let him take some B-Roll and make that as a short for Disney + or something.
So... Alien Planet:
Darwin IVPandora?one of us one of us
I get that there's plenty of stuff that one could read into and make weird, I'm not stupid. The avatar world to me is just a really standard "white savior" but still anti-colonial narrative. It's fetish content only in the sense that ANY romantic attachment in a colonial story is fetish content.
Would you rather have had a colonial story that was just aggressively chaste? I think it's incredibly naive not to talk about attachment and romance across cultures and bodies in a colonial narrative. Without sexual compatibility b/w na'vi & humans, it's just the fucking Lorax with guns for 3, three hour movies.
Like, ok, the aliens are a slightly different shape than humans ... oooo ... Must be a kink about size. The design takes cues from specific indigenous cultures ... definitely not just a narrative tool for mass market or a nod at existing films in the colonial genre. Oooo they do weird hair stuff ... must be a kink about ... hair stuff?
It's not the smartest series, but it's really really obviously trying to be a modernized Pocahontas (and similar) so it SHOULD be nodding at the problematic content and fetishization of those historic works.
I think you misunderstood what I meant.
I don't mind the author's barely disguised fetish. Actually, it is respectable how blatant it is. What I find bland is the story. Even ignoring the white savior part, I hate how infantilized the Na'avi are.
A large factor behind colonization of the Americas, or at least Mesoamerica and the Andes, was that it was a powder keg of empires. The subjects of the Aztec were waiting for an opportunity to rebel, and the Inca empire was already engaged in a brutal civil war between the Sapa Inca and his brother. The Europeans exploited these tensions to conquer the continent.
But on Pandora, it seems they're all Taino, well, except the fire tribe but even they seem pretty tame compared to the imperial military of precolumbian states. Like, I get not going all in into deep colonial politics in the first movie, but we're on part 3. This level of simplicity just undermines the anticolonial theme at this point.
Don't forget that like an estimated 90% of native population were wiped out by smallpox within 20 years of first contact. Europeans were able take over due to massive plague.
Most racist human supremacist and his wife
If Avatar was R-rated, I feel like humans would be reacting to the Na'vi how Spanish Conquistadors behaved towards Native women
The Avatar porn parody ends with the Navi sexually enslaving the humans before turning their planet into a Casino so I guess that checks out.
You know how cats have spiked/barbed penises to seal up their mates' vaginas after intercourse and prevent impregnation by competitors?
For some reason I imagine Na'vi genitals being that squared.
Like there are dozens of tiny swordfights going on down there, with the organic equivalent of dental tools.
If the lady wins, she gets to try a more varied selection of gametes, and the species thrives. (But the gentleman is "sealed up"...)
I've heard on the avatar subreddit that there's a redacted worldbuilding document about Na'Vi males having a smaller penis relative to their body size compared to humans. Unfortunately I had no source to work with...
Among the human-shaped species, humans are unusual in this regard.
If Na’vi have convergent evolution and evolved similar to other primates, then the same pattern would follow.
I don't know, Na'vis are very monogamous it seems, a lot more than humans, if the same trend follows, they should have a pretty small one...
There goes my dreams of big Na'Vi cocks.
I was referring to the fact that Na’vi also are most likely on average smaller (relative to body size).
Still probably above human size because of how massive the Na’vi are.
Oh, I'm dumb, yes we agree then.
Release the penis cut, Cameron!
I hope they release it uncut
this kinda shit is like raceplay but with more layers of abstraction, so it feels less weird, cuz avatar is fundamentally just dances with wolves with blue people. i mean uh when the space alien tribal mommy
Oh good, the brony is going to preach to us about problematic metaphors in porn.
you know its bad when the pastel horse colonizers have to preach about problematic porn metaphors (thankfully its a good take)
don't make me talk about aryanne zebradom cuz i will
live up to your username. talk about it
i would but the last time i tried to, i got [removed] which is fair
fair. guess you live you too it too well
i will shoehorn it into every conversation. this is my idea of Pleasure
i mean, i didn't even condemn raceplay. am i "preaching?". yes---one cannot deny the Truth. You're a Freak. don't try to hide from me
freakyrainbowdash you are the first person I've met who shares this take
yayyyy
w take
me as Dr Kel (The Arirals need to be introduced to earth customs one way or another)
I've never seen the sequels but isn't the racist army guy in a navi body by the time he meets the evil navi lady? Why is he always drawn as human with her, or are there other humans that ally with her or something?
I actually had a concept for an Avatar inspired conflict in my world, Latoria is a medieval fantasy world which is a moon orbiting a blue gas giant named Atlas.
The US military discovers Latoria via a portal; technically, Latoria exists within another universe, not just another system. As such, the US would set up a base near the portal and launch expeditions and record footage of the locals. Later, various companies had extraction rights to take resources from the land, while they weren't allowed to harm or interact with locals, the US did nothing to stop it as such, many companies encroached on tribal land and killed many natives, resulting in various militaries in the land to respond and fight back, triggering the war.
The protagonist is David, a Beastkin who saw all his friends die to the US military and seeks revenge, fighting a guerrilla war. He befriends an elf woman who teaches him stealth and magic, and even meets a soldier from Earth named Wyatt who defects and helps David fight back.
Yes, Wyatt and the Elf both fall in love.
I hope Military-Industrial Complex wins. Right?
Short answer: No, the protagonist is part of the fantasy army. What do you expect?
Long answer:
The war was mostly fought between the United Sovereigns of Autonomia (USA) against the United States of America plus some native allies.
David, while being a Knight of Autonomia, mostly fought for all of Latoria with the desire to drive what he perceived as "demons" from the land. David used various tactics in order to fight and help the Sovereigns win the war.
The main tactic was stealth; he would train as a skilled assassin, doing what he knew in hunting to fight off US soldiers, who would be limited in their abilities and movement due to the nature of portal technology. He also would learn various forms of magic to improve his combat abilities and stealth, which caused soldiers to fear him like the boogeyman, calling him the Devil of Avalon.
But one of the most important tactics was the use of the military's guns. David would steal and learn about American weapons to fight back against the enemy. He would even combine magic and technology by creating guns with infinite ammo.
Fear tactics were also important. David used fear to scare the American soldiers, causing them to flee at the mere sight of him or desert due to the belief that the Devil was coming for them.
Another major part was turning the US's allies against them or stopping larger kingdoms from allying with the US. David managed to convince the Orc Kingdom of Heim to join the fight against the US after the US allied with the (white) Human supremacist empire of Illustria. David would also wreak havoc on Illustrian soldiers.
David would also hunt and fight the Obsidian Coil, a clan of sorcerers that is Latoria's version of a Dark Lord. The Obsidian Coil was one of the US's main allies in the war as they partnered up with weapons companies to make magitech suits; however, David killed the leader of the clan, causing many sorcerers to cut ties with the US, some defecting to the Sovereigns, and only a few choosing to stay with the promise of extra money.
This slowed down weapons production and anti-magic research. David also worked with Wyatt, who was also a journalist, to interview and record atrocities the US committed on the natives and smuggling them to Earth, leading to uproar and on the homefront.
Jeez imagine if she turned off your exopack and made you beg and makes you like idk... like lick her feet or like something like that. Haha. Could you imagine ha. Would be wild
I can’t believe I’m actually seeing avatar content.
Like, people are finally talking about one of these billion dollar movies.
Are they gooning for the alien chick? Yep!
People of the internet would goon to each other if they could...
She turned off his breathing mask😳
She's into asphyxiation 🤯
...I can work with that 😏
Who the fuck is Nathan
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Literally me, except for the human supremacy stuff