I mean after the Wechsler & Ravens definition a grimoire is a recording of the steps necessitating the manifestation of an arcane working.
A scroll of Light is a grimoire. The instructions on the side of a forcefield generator are a grimoire. It doesn't follow the spirit of the idea but technically they're correct.
Don’t let the Warlocks hear you say things like that… very ego driven bunch with very powerful sugar daddies/mommies/beings-beyond-understanding just handing them fully completed grimoires.
Does your grimoire credit the first wizard in existence that has cast a Fireball? I thought not.
IIRC the Council has decided on short form (i. e. no credit or original source cited) grimoires after a task force found out that we'd be giving credit to Dr*ids to some of our most iconic spells.
Spellbooks nowadays tend to teach more broad spells and encourage creativity over rigorous training, they no longer teach immolation or fire breath, they teach you fireball and then they teach you how to get creative with it
The trick I’ve found, is to write very very small. The trouble however, is reading very small things in an emergency.
Solution: a simple spell of eagle eye cast on the user as they open the grimoire! But nooo, no one will buy a grimoire you have to pour blood into before you open it anymore! I told them it didn’t have to be the user’s blood but they still said it wouldn’t sell at market. Short sighted, I carry 10 spells in a pamphlet.
You do understand that the 700+ pages of praise for Nagash in each of those tomes are not only absolutely warranted and necessary, but demonstrate such restraint and power of synthesis only a mind of a god could achieve?
Apprentices think they can get away with making pacts with demons and having them write their spells, as if the professor can't just cast Detect Good and Evil
I once saw another student explode into black goo when the professor did a ritual cleansing on the sacrificial dagger he had submitted as his final project. I told him the prof wouldn’t fall for a rudimentary curse like that but oh well :/
It'd really depend on the content that those 6 spells contain. Sure, by technical definition, you really only need one spell in there, but that's not the point.
Use of an Abyssal Incarnation as a beta to check it over is fine and dandy. Personally, no beta, we die like mages here. Use of one to completely generate something is grounds for immediate defenestration.
You know how much of my work these Abyssals have stolen and amalgamated just to regurgitate back onto some of these failures 'works'?
Honestly, the only good Abyssals are the "evil but waifu-shaped goth women" as my apprentice put it. I don't understand why Harper likes blatantly evil things like that, but it's not my place to judge her. More interested in the spatial warping required to fit a warship into the shape of a woman.
Where was I? Oh right. Generally speaking, the grimoire can have as many spells in it as desired, so long as the contents are sufficiently impressive. Not any of that word fluff and padding you'd use for a 500 word essay you could really write in a sentence or two that mundane schools are so fond of. I mean actual, genuine material with thought and research behind it.
So long as the theory is sound, I don't mind the actual length of the contents.
Hrm. That really depends on the instructions given to the apprentice for the assignment. I wouldn’t call anything that small a grimoire, but it’s more important to ask whether they satisfy the terms they were given or not.
Sounds like they could do with better instruction. My apprentice has kept up with her martial training and healing studies, while also preparing rituals of her own design. She's especially talented with water magic.
Not to toot my own horn, but 🎺🎺🎺🎺
If an apprentice of mine started relying on some external force to come up with spells, she would no longer be my apprentice.
I’m a tad new to apprenticing and all that, but some of my first ones attempted to use a False Mind spell to think up spells for them. Besides that going almost directly against my whole school of magic, it’s just plain lazy.
Sounds like summoner propaganda. The conjuring school needs only to be able to bound some hands in order to take care of any situation you may find while pondering the orb in nature.
I mean after the Wechsler & Ravens definition a grimoire is a recording of the steps necessitating the manifestation of an arcane working.
A scroll of Light is a grimoire. The instructions on the side of a forcefield generator are a grimoire. It doesn't follow the spirit of the idea but technically they're correct.
It’s all that damn Abyssal Incarnation nowadays
The pocket dimension can’t burst any sooner
Don’t let the Warlocks hear you say things like that… very ego driven bunch with very powerful sugar daddies/mommies/beings-beyond-understanding just handing them fully completed grimoires.
I shalt not be censored
And the contents of those grimoires were plagiarised from other wizards with no credit given.
Does your grimoire credit the first wizard in existence that has cast a Fireball? I thought not.
IIRC the Council has decided on short form (i. e. no credit or original source cited) grimoires after a task force found out that we'd be giving credit to Dr*ids to some of our most iconic spells.
That's it, I'm casting Insect Plague on your undergarnments you plagiarizer, see how iconic it is !
Iconic deez nuts
I wouldn't worry. Warlocks can't even read lolololol.
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Spellbooks nowadays tend to teach more broad spells and encourage creativity over rigorous training, they no longer teach immolation or fire breath, they teach you fireball and then they teach you how to get creative with it
You forgot the creative problem solving flowchart
Problem:Yes>Fireball. Problem still there:Yes>More Fireball.
Damned sorcerers.
6 isn’t bad, to be fair.
Grimoires also have a lot of other stuff in them, so 6 spells usually means about 54-ish pages of other material.
The trick I’ve found, is to write very very small. The trouble however, is reading very small things in an emergency.
Solution: a simple spell of eagle eye cast on the user as they open the grimoire! But nooo, no one will buy a grimoire you have to pour blood into before you open it anymore! I told them it didn’t have to be the user’s blood but they still said it wouldn’t sell at market. Short sighted, I carry 10 spells in a pamphlet.
Have you considered an eye of an eagle as a replacement for blood
This should please the certain kind of eccentric customerbase
those damn Chateau Golden Pinnacle Triumph spells
And how many spells have you taught them?
If they are great 6 spells I will let it slide. 6 okay spells with some good magical research is acceptable too.
And than you got Nagash's grimoirs with 9 books for 9 spells))))
You do understand that the 700+ pages of praise for Nagash in each of those tomes are not only absolutely warranted and necessary, but demonstrate such restraint and power of synthesis only a mind of a god could achieve?
Such is the power of Nagash.
Had to read one of those for school… I still don’t understand half the spells.
Apprentices think they can get away with making pacts with demons and having them write their spells, as if the professor can't just cast Detect Good and Evil
I once saw another student explode into black goo when the professor did a ritual cleansing on the sacrificial dagger he had submitted as his final project. I told him the prof wouldn’t fall for a rudimentary curse like that but oh well :/
It'd really depend on the content that those 6 spells contain. Sure, by technical definition, you really only need one spell in there, but that's not the point.
Use of an Abyssal Incarnation as a beta to check it over is fine and dandy. Personally, no beta, we die like mages here. Use of one to completely generate something is grounds for immediate defenestration.
You know how much of my work these Abyssals have stolen and amalgamated just to regurgitate back onto some of these failures 'works'?
Honestly, the only good Abyssals are the "evil but waifu-shaped goth women" as my apprentice put it. I don't understand why Harper likes blatantly evil things like that, but it's not my place to judge her. More interested in the spatial warping required to fit a warship into the shape of a woman.
Where was I? Oh right. Generally speaking, the grimoire can have as many spells in it as desired, so long as the contents are sufficiently impressive. Not any of that word fluff and padding you'd use for a 500 word essay you could really write in a sentence or two that mundane schools are so fond of. I mean actual, genuine material with thought and research behind it.
So long as the theory is sound, I don't mind the actual length of the contents.
Hrm. That really depends on the instructions given to the apprentice for the assignment. I wouldn’t call anything that small a grimoire, but it’s more important to ask whether they satisfy the terms they were given or not.
Sounds like they could do with better instruction. My apprentice has kept up with her martial training and healing studies, while also preparing rituals of her own design. She's especially talented with water magic.
Not to toot my own horn, but 🎺🎺🎺🎺
If an apprentice of mine started relying on some external force to come up with spells, she would no longer be my apprentice.
6 spells is a perfectly acceptable start to a Grimoire. You’re supposed to add spells as you learn.
I’m a tad new to apprenticing and all that, but some of my first ones attempted to use a False Mind spell to think up spells for them. Besides that going almost directly against my whole school of magic, it’s just plain lazy.
Sounds like summoner propaganda. The conjuring school needs only to be able to bound some hands in order to take care of any situation you may find while pondering the orb in nature.
My brother in the arcane arts, WHEN do you USE more than six spells?
What if one of my six spells is “summon wizard with more spells?”