Her “accomplishments” as mayor were hilarious.
She’s this small town mayor with a massive budget because of a small tax they put on big box stores.
She runs on cutting government and being the “first Christian mayor” (there is no way this is true). She gets to office and finds out the city government has like 70ish employees. She proceeds to do shenanigans and waste money that would sink any other politician, but her town is both small enough and with a big enough budget for her to get away with it and even rise up to oil commissioner and then Governor
We are all walking, talking contradictions. It’s part of what makes humanity as beautiful as it is frustrating. Some try to overcome them through great effort, and nearly all of them fail. Others try to ignore or bury them as if they should be embarrassed by their hypocrisies. No one really seems to celebrate them though.
Someone who’s sheltered really.. who hasn’t spent much time in nature where undomesticated animals will tear their face off for a meal instead of in the comforts of things built by people and a society where people help each other not die terribly.
But i also like animals more - mostly foxes. How can i not love foxes ?
Sheltered from living in the wild where you are going to have to encounter them all the time ,damn i have bears and panthers where i live but i’d call myself sheltered from that thankfully
I don't know - many, many people still die terribly in our societies today. At least animals don't take joy in killing and torturing each other the same way that humans are so well-known for, but I do take your point!
I hear ya, its just if a bear was gnawing my limbs i wouldn’t be thinking “ well at least its not doing it for fun”… serial killers and sadists aside, i depend on way more people than i do bears, so its a more equal exchange when it comes to people ( and this is coming from an avowed hater and misanthrope)
Very few animals are outwardly cruel. On the other hand, almost all humans are at some point in our lives. The degree of cruelty of course varies, but we pretty much all have at the very least, said something mean with the intent of hurting another's feelings. When animals commit violent acts it is pretty much always a matter of survival. Orcas, dolphins, and a few monkey and ape species are the only exceptions to this rule that I'm aware of. Some ant species enslave each other but I don't think they have the mental capacity to act with malicious intent.
Yeah no… animals aren’t outwardly cruel because they don’t have the concept . You should see my cat torturing a poor mouse for fun. Love her but damn she’s a furry lil’ serial killer.
Te hace un Persona (en mayúsculas), el epítome de un ser humano, es decir : un ridículo animal dotado de eso tan fascinante llamado "imaginación". La cantidad de esa imaginación, no obstante, es ínfima; ocupa el poco espacio de la cabecita que no está ocupado por la condescendencia supremacista de una especie dedicada a extinguir al resto de especies. Pero es muy útil para casos como éste: parir reflexiones idiotisimas sobre un escenario en el que los 'derechos' (humanos) se contraponen a los derechos del resto de animales... bien, en realidad no... los animales son muy majos, pero como índicas, sus 'derechos' no se contraponen a los nuestros, lo hace su 'bienestar' animal (que generosamente les escatimamos a cambio de protagonizar esos vídeos tan graciosos en TikTok).
Animal rights advocates don't say they like animals more than people. They just want people to leave animals alone. If that's too hard to understand I don't know what to tell you
To be fair being an animal rights activist can be very different things. It could be as normal and acceptable as saying don’t hunt elephant in Africa to being a peta style we must kill every pet organization to being someone who simply wants everyone to be vegan.
Totally true. But Brigitte was against clubbing of baby seals for fur for example. I think it's silly to dismiss this because she was a bad person on other parts in life. Sounds like an excuse to not think about animal welfare
Respectfully I and most other people don’t really need an excuse not to think about animal welfare. And in all honesty I only just heard about her because she died that’s it.
Animal rights groups online have many users for whom liking animals more than people is an understatement. They say stuff like "human is the worst animal" and "I wish humanity went extinct so that nature could recover."
Granted, a lot of those types of comments are in response to horrific animal abuse and environmental disasters. But consider the anti-muslim comments that flood posts about islamic terror in Western countries - would it make sense to say that the people who post them don't actually hate muslims?
It’s something I’ve definitely thought on many occasions but would never say out loud because I understand how incredibly off-putting it is. I get so irked anytime I hear someone else say it, even though I can technically relate.
Bardot contrasted her close gay friends with homosexuals who "jiggle their bottoms, put their little fingers in the air and with their little castrato voices moan about what those ghastly heteros put them through"
She was friends with Maurice Sachs and Max Jacob. She also publicly explained her differing opinions on Israelites, Jews, and the Yiddish…yes, it was as bad as you think
Holy shit that's such a cartoonish way to think about gay people. Did she also think every gay dude was a beefcake who walked around casually wearing a stripper outfit that corresponds to their profession?
Actually the Wikipedia article is incomplete. She was very popular among the left in the 60s.
She was asked a ransom by the far right wing terrorist group OAS. She refused and called the police, and famously said « I don’t want to live in a nazi country. »
She also kept in her home for a while Antoine Bourseiller from the FLN (the independenist party of Algeria).
Her lawyer at the time Robert Badinter is a public figure of the French Left (he was the justice minister under whom the death penalty was abolished).
The communist newspaper Libération (different from today’s Liberation) wrote about her in 1961 :
"BBB = Bravo Brigitte Bardot! People speak to her nicely, and frankly, you're annoying, you flaunt your private life too much, but deep down, this woman-child, you resist when others give in, and you set an example of 'dignity.' Finally, in addition to the political dimension, there's another one that will be taken up or contested here and there: You, yourself, don't need publicity."
Yeah like many figures from the past, her politics did not fit neatly into modern party lines, and she became unhinged as she aged. We don't need to reflexively tear her down because she got a bit crazy in her seventies, following a suicide attempt and some serious health issues.
This reminds me of James Watson, who helped discover the structure of DNA in the 60's, then went senile and started saying some questionable things. His reputation shouldn't have been tarred in the way it was, the public should show more grace to the senile.
I would say more misanthropic, she only cared about animals. You can see the way she talks about her only son in her biography (in 1996, she was 62):
« It was like a tumor that had fed on me, that I had carried in my swollen flesh, waiting only for the blessed moment when I would finally be rid of it. The nightmare reached its climax; I had to bear the source of my misfortune for the rest of my life. »
there are plenty of people who don't like hunting. i don't particularly want to get into my opinion on it, but to assume everyone thinks it's great is kinda wild.
My point here is that many, though not all, of her most extreme comments were driven by an extreme commitment to her own peculiar brand of animal rights activism. This led her to make comments offensive to many different groups, including religious minorities and hunters.
I think you’re inferring a lot of meaning into my posts that just isn’t merited. I just said she happened to make a few comments that upset conservatives (and hunters are considered generally conservative), and explained how she got into my position. Nowhere in my comments do I say, or imply, that she wasn’t generally on the far-right end of the political spectrum. Nowhere did I defend her, certainly.
I think you’d probably be a lot happier if you didn’t try and find offense within innocuous Internet comments.
Where did I say she wasn’t racist? You’re just making things up! Either that, or you just may fundamentally misunderstand racism as a concept, amongst other things.
Until the 1968 summer atudent protest which shook France up the ancienne regime , hunting without concern was a common thing. Her activism for animal rights is literally the only thing I ever agreed with her on.
Dick Cheney wasnt the only man who shot another on the face he was the only one who made the other guy apologize. She protested reckless hunters who lobbied for torture against animals
I don’t like her at all and the things she stood for but it still makes me sad that she died. There’s no denying she was iconic. She’s one of the first people I think of when I think about the 60s.
All her views were inline with what a plurality of French people believe.
It's some Anglosphere bias that lead the world to believe that France is some progressive safe haven.
Like, most of their football team is black so we assume they're accepting of people from Africa. Then you look at the fans and notice they're all white....
Her husband catching strays when she defended herself against homophobia made me laugh:
"Apart from my husband—who maybe will cross over one day as well—I am entirely surrounded by homos. For years, they have been my support, my friends, my adopted children, my confidants."
"Open Letter to My Lost France", she writes that "my country, France, my homeland, my land" was "again invaded by an overpopulation of foreigners, especially Muslims". - Where's the lie?
To be fair, we've all made derogatory comments about Sarah Palin.
Is there anything Non-Derogatory to say about her?
I liked the Lisa Ann movie
She's not fungible?
Are we sure about that tho
She said of herself that she’s a bulldog with lipstick.
She knew Russia was a threat back in 2008.
https://news.sky.com/story/sarah-palins-ukraine-conflict-prediction-10415320
She's alive
She’s physically very attractive
Eww
She was an entertaining mayor to hear about
Her “accomplishments” as mayor were hilarious. She’s this small town mayor with a massive budget because of a small tax they put on big box stores.
She runs on cutting government and being the “first Christian mayor” (there is no way this is true). She gets to office and finds out the city government has like 70ish employees. She proceeds to do shenanigans and waste money that would sink any other politician, but her town is both small enough and with a big enough budget for her to get away with it and even rise up to oil commissioner and then Governor
Not enough coffee. I got almost all the way through before I realized that this wasn't about Bardot.
An entire chapter of her career I hadn't heard of.
She banged Glen Rice.
Rare BB W.
She was also a Le Pen supporter. Her husband used to be one of Jean-Marie Le Pen's advisors.
Tried to sneak hunters on there, huh?
For a very right wing coded person in France? Yeah pretty unusual group to hate, but consistent with her animal rights advocacy
That's why I don't trust people who say they like animals more than people.
I like animals more than people.
I also think human rights wins out over animal welfare.
What does that make me? A walking contradiction? A humanist misanthrope? I dunno.
We are all walking, talking contradictions. It’s part of what makes humanity as beautiful as it is frustrating. Some try to overcome them through great effort, and nearly all of them fail. Others try to ignore or bury them as if they should be embarrassed by their hypocrisies. No one really seems to celebrate them though.
Someone who’s sheltered really.. who hasn’t spent much time in nature where undomesticated animals will tear their face off for a meal instead of in the comforts of things built by people and a society where people help each other not die terribly.
But i also like animals more - mostly foxes. How can i not love foxes ?
Hmm. I live in a place with elephants, so I dunno if that makes me sheltered.
Sheltered from living in the damn wild if you have internet , don’t know what elephants got to do with it.
You were talking about ferocious animals in your earlier comment, not the internet...
Sheltered from living in the wild where you are going to have to encounter them all the time ,damn i have bears and panthers where i live but i’d call myself sheltered from that thankfully
You fumbled this hard and its not even funny 💀
I don't know - many, many people still die terribly in our societies today. At least animals don't take joy in killing and torturing each other the same way that humans are so well-known for, but I do take your point!
I hear ya, its just if a bear was gnawing my limbs i wouldn’t be thinking “ well at least its not doing it for fun”… serial killers and sadists aside, i depend on way more people than i do bears, so its a more equal exchange when it comes to people ( and this is coming from an avowed hater and misanthrope)
Cats, chimps, and orcas all demonstrate sadism in nature, actually. Or at the very least, behaviors that appear sadistic.
I’m pretty sure dolphins also laugh after they try to rape humans on boats 🤣
Also, most humans are capable of empathy, and many humans suffer when they see others suffering unnecessarily.
Yeah an animal you know what you're getting more or less
Very few animals are outwardly cruel. On the other hand, almost all humans are at some point in our lives. The degree of cruelty of course varies, but we pretty much all have at the very least, said something mean with the intent of hurting another's feelings. When animals commit violent acts it is pretty much always a matter of survival. Orcas, dolphins, and a few monkey and ape species are the only exceptions to this rule that I'm aware of. Some ant species enslave each other but I don't think they have the mental capacity to act with malicious intent.
Yeah no… animals aren’t outwardly cruel because they don’t have the concept . You should see my cat torturing a poor mouse for fun. Love her but damn she’s a furry lil’ serial killer.
Te hace un Persona (en mayúsculas), el epítome de un ser humano, es decir : un ridículo animal dotado de eso tan fascinante llamado "imaginación". La cantidad de esa imaginación, no obstante, es ínfima; ocupa el poco espacio de la cabecita que no está ocupado por la condescendencia supremacista de una especie dedicada a extinguir al resto de especies. Pero es muy útil para casos como éste: parir reflexiones idiotisimas sobre un escenario en el que los 'derechos' (humanos) se contraponen a los derechos del resto de animales... bien, en realidad no... los animales son muy majos, pero como índicas, sus 'derechos' no se contraponen a los nuestros, lo hace su 'bienestar' animal (que generosamente les escatimamos a cambio de protagonizar esos vídeos tan graciosos en TikTok).
What abilities does it have? I already have a lightning guy and a healer
It depends, but a 'lighting healer' is definitely one of them.
Animal rights advocates don't say they like animals more than people. They just want people to leave animals alone. If that's too hard to understand I don't know what to tell you
To be fair being an animal rights activist can be very different things. It could be as normal and acceptable as saying don’t hunt elephant in Africa to being a peta style we must kill every pet organization to being someone who simply wants everyone to be vegan.
Totally true. But Brigitte was against clubbing of baby seals for fur for example. I think it's silly to dismiss this because she was a bad person on other parts in life. Sounds like an excuse to not think about animal welfare
Respectfully I and most other people don’t really need an excuse not to think about animal welfare. And in all honesty I only just heard about her because she died that’s it.
Yeah that's what I meant
Animal rights groups online have many users for whom liking animals more than people is an understatement. They say stuff like "human is the worst animal" and "I wish humanity went extinct so that nature could recover."
Granted, a lot of those types of comments are in response to horrific animal abuse and environmental disasters. But consider the anti-muslim comments that flood posts about islamic terror in Western countries - would it make sense to say that the people who post them don't actually hate muslims?
Don't worry, animals don't trust people like you either. Instinct, what a powerful evolutionary weapon.
It’s something I’ve definitely thought on many occasions but would never say out loud because I understand how incredibly off-putting it is. I get so irked anytime I hear someone else say it, even though I can technically relate.
"later in life" She started hanging with the Le Pen in the 50s. She was always an racist.
That's a lot of words for such a dumb take
It’s like Coco Chanel and her Jewish friends
Did she actually have Jewish friends? Seemed she had Jewish business associates and colleagues, but I've not heard anything about friends.
She was friends with Maurice Sachs and Max Jacob. She also publicly explained her differing opinions on Israelites, Jews, and the Yiddish…yes, it was as bad as you think
Holy shit that's such a cartoonish way to think about gay people. Did she also think every gay dude was a beefcake who walked around casually wearing a stripper outfit that corresponds to their profession?
man the line feels so blurry because this is also 100% a commentary you'd hear from someone within the community though
Sounds like half the comment sections on this sub to be honest...
girl just hated everyone lmao
Nah most of those are pretty standard people to hate on
Bardot called Marine Le Pen the "modern Joan of Arc".
Not so later...
Just a dumb racist fake blonde girl who became famous moving her ass at a time it was forbidden...
Horrible person.
How is misogyny a good way to answer racism?
Actually the Wikipedia article is incomplete. She was very popular among the left in the 60s.
She was asked a ransom by the far right wing terrorist group OAS. She refused and called the police, and famously said « I don’t want to live in a nazi country. »
She also kept in her home for a while Antoine Bourseiller from the FLN (the independenist party of Algeria).
Her lawyer at the time Robert Badinter is a public figure of the French Left (he was the justice minister under whom the death penalty was abolished).
The communist newspaper Libération (different from today’s Liberation) wrote about her in 1961 :
"BBB = Bravo Brigitte Bardot! People speak to her nicely, and frankly, you're annoying, you flaunt your private life too much, but deep down, this woman-child, you resist when others give in, and you set an example of 'dignity.' Finally, in addition to the political dimension, there's another one that will be taken up or contested here and there: You, yourself, don't need publicity."
https://www.persee.fr/doc/comm_0588-8018_1963_num_2_1_967
She went to far right later in life when she disappeared of the public life.
Yeah like many figures from the past, her politics did not fit neatly into modern party lines, and she became unhinged as she aged. We don't need to reflexively tear her down because she got a bit crazy in her seventies, following a suicide attempt and some serious health issues.
This reminds me of James Watson, who helped discover the structure of DNA in the 60's, then went senile and started saying some questionable things. His reputation shouldn't have been tarred in the way it was, the public should show more grace to the senile.
So she was bonkers then.
I would say more misanthropic, she only cared about animals. You can see the way she talks about her only son in her biography (in 1996, she was 62):
« It was like a tumor that had fed on me, that I had carried in my swollen flesh, waiting only for the blessed moment when I would finally be rid of it. The nightmare reached its climax; I had to bear the source of my misfortune for the rest of my life. »
LOL, I don’t know much about this goofy woman even though I lived in Paris for a couple years, but that quote makes her sound even more bonkers.
She liked the labrador race though
Damn, did she just hate all people?
So she was a horrible person.
Holy shit I did not know all this insane shit she stood for. Obvs I do not condone this. Very disappointing to learn.
Sounds like the song should have been titled "The Initials H.H."
Bless her racist little heart
What's the problem with hunters?
She was an animal rights activist so take a guess
there are plenty of people who don't like hunting. i don't particularly want to get into my opinion on it, but to assume everyone thinks it's great is kinda wild.
I like hunting , I eat meat, to me that a sound move to make.
thank you for your input
Probably the hunting
I feel like this is a safe guess.
I think the point is that she had a penchant for controversial comments which transcended the left/right divide.
[deleted]
My point here is that many, though not all, of her most extreme comments were driven by an extreme commitment to her own peculiar brand of animal rights activism. This led her to make comments offensive to many different groups, including religious minorities and hunters.
[deleted]
I think you’re inferring a lot of meaning into my posts that just isn’t merited. I just said she happened to make a few comments that upset conservatives (and hunters are considered generally conservative), and explained how she got into my position. Nowhere in my comments do I say, or imply, that she wasn’t generally on the far-right end of the political spectrum. Nowhere did I defend her, certainly.
I think you’d probably be a lot happier if you didn’t try and find offense within innocuous Internet comments.
[deleted]
Where did I say she wasn’t racist? You’re just making things up! Either that, or you just may fundamentally misunderstand racism as a concept, amongst other things.
Is this a serious question?
Yes?
Until the 1968 summer atudent protest which shook France up the ancienne regime , hunting without concern was a common thing. Her activism for animal rights is literally the only thing I ever agreed with her on.
Dick Cheney wasnt the only man who shot another on the face he was the only one who made the other guy apologize. She protested reckless hunters who lobbied for torture against animals
I don’t like her at all and the things she stood for but it still makes me sad that she died. There’s no denying she was iconic. She’s one of the first people I think of when I think about the 60s.
Wouldn’t have added the term “Jewish rituals” here. “Rituals” always brings out the conspiracy theorists. She was just antisemitic.
She supported le pen.
The rituals she was against were the brutal slaughtering of sheep in both Judaism and Islam
Tramp down the dirt
Aka she was French!
All her views were inline with what a plurality of French people believe.
It's some Anglosphere bias that lead the world to believe that France is some progressive safe haven.
Like, most of their football team is black so we assume they're accepting of people from Africa. Then you look at the fans and notice they're all white....
You could also make a similar case about American Football/Basketball. Sports are a very poor metric for measuring a society's inclusivity.
French people are about as racist as any people: she was not the norm.
Also the fact that Paris is the only French city that has any kind of global footprint, and it's by far the most progressive place in the country.
Paris: They don't hate you for your skin, religion, or political views.
They hate you because if you're not Parisian, you're not French. And stop trying to speak our language, you silly pig-dogs.
[deleted]
Entireoperationwasyouridea.jpg
What was the comment? Lol
Apparently she hated her son for being born.
Good thing nobody watches French TV I guess?
Her husband catching strays when she defended herself against homophobia made me laugh:
Not even her son was safe
My Dad's ideal woman
I don’t agree with her but she had her opinions and beliefs. Who cares
Yeah at the very least she never tried to be anything other than herself.
"Open Letter to My Lost France", she writes that "my country, France, my homeland, my land" was "again invaded by an overpopulation of foreigners, especially Muslims". - Where's the lie?
Let me guess if you could build a time machine you would go back just so you can accuse dreyfuss yourself
queen
Hunters? Like, just, ones who hunt? Those hunters?
Good for her
Based.