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The only ones who use zionist as a placeholder for all jews, are the zionists. I know many jews who support a palestinian estate and are highly critical of colonization, specially in the west bank.
The problem with a Jewish national revival in Palestine is there were these people called "Palestinians", who you had to ethnically cleanse to make your Jewish majority ethnostate possible. Happy to teach you more since you zionists always seem to be learning this fact for the first time.
You deleted your comment saying zionism doesn't discriminate. The bombs used in the name of it certainly don't.
Don't care about zionism, it's already fulliled. The state of Israel is there and good for those who needed it or whatever. I care more about the self determination of those affected by the fulfillment of zionism, people who are actually suffering.
I deleted because it was irrelevant, I read your comment wrong. Zionism has nothing to do with bombs
Zionism is not fulfilled, Diaspora still exists and the process is not complete. Not everything done in the name of Zionism has something to do with Zionism. Settler violence, for example, has nothing to do with Zionism. I support liberal Zionism
lol, depends when their out celebrating rape, defending settlers who brutalise animals and people, arm them, fund them, protect them, Pretty easy to have a negative impression of Zionists.
But your right, lots of Duckduckgo is bad, no-one actually saying why
Regardless of their personal beliefs, are they actively supporting Israeli government surveillance like Google is? If not, still better search engine options.
You don't hear about Google/Microsoft/Amazon employees complaining about a whole lot of other countries using cloud services, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Egypt, China, Iraq, Yemen, Eritrea, Sudan, Myanmar, Nicaragua, and a dozen or so additional dictatorship countries with ongoing civil rights abuses and violence. Sudan has an ongoing genocide for God's sakes.
Project Nimbus is an exclusive contract between Israel and Google specifically with special provisions. None of the countries you listed are part of this agreement.
Google provides cloud computing services in general without the special provisions like this to an extremely limited number of countries. None of the ones you listed have any such contract except Qatar, who unlike Israel is not actively committing genocide and using the technology to assist with this.
The special provisions force google to uphold the contract including for military use no matter what, such as in the event of boycotts, public pressure or human rights violations (all of which have happened), and covertly notify Israel if another country requested information about the agreement or data.
50+ software engineers from Google who developed this technology and are industry leaders in the area were fired for expressing concern or boycotting over Israel’s obvious use of this as a genocide assistance tool. Additionally, google’s own lawyers expressed concern that these computing services would be used to assist Israel in committing human rights violations and genocide.
I think that’s a reasonable criticism. Same kind of criticism as why the UN only seems capable of condemning Israel despite other condemnable, human rights abusing countries existing that the UN turns blind eyes and ears to. But the natural response to these observations is to just call it “whataboutism” and moonwalk out
None of the countries the guy listed have a cloud computing deal with Google except for Qatar. Qatar isn’t committing a genocide and using the technology to do so.
I think the dude is just computer illiterate and thinks that a country having access to Google over the open internet is the same thing as having the government sign a multi billion dollar ai and cloud computing deal
Qatar gives Hamas valuable diplomatic and political backing—Hamas leadership lives in safety in Qatar, Qatar spends billions of dollars on pro-Hamas propaganda, and Qatar lobbies on Hamas’s behalf in international negotiations. Qatar also provided the funds Israel allowed into Gaza for humanitarian purposes. Qatar plays a crucial role in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas.
Did you just pull this claim out of your ass? If I look into other countries the guy listed will I find that most countries do have sovereign computing contacts with one of the major companies?
Not to mention if you just search for the keywords "UN condemnation" and filter by news you can see every time the UN or a UN body criticizes a country/government, including Guinea-Bissau, the Houthis, Madagascar, Russia, and yes, even Hamas. Not even the barest minimum level of due diligence before putting out complete untruths.
This is not an honest look at it though. Yes its true the UN condemns other countries, but it passes resolutions on Israel 2-3 times more than the next country and several times more than countries like North Korea, Iran, Myanmar and Syria. (Two of which are actively perpetuating genocides).
From 2015 through 2024, UNGA adopted 173 resolutions on Israel, and 80 on all other countries combined.
In 2025 alone, the UNGA was expected to adopt approximately 16 resolutions on Israel versus 12 on the rest of the world all together
There's a blatant bias against Israel in the UN, to deny it is to be willfully blind
What's dishonest about it? The original claim was that the UN "turns blind eyes and ears to [other countries' human rights violations]". That's demonstrably false.
You're shifting the goal posts and making unsubstantiated accusations of bias and dishonesty.
The original claim was that the UN "turns blind eyes and ears to [other countries' human rights violations]"
It is ALSO true that the UN has a significant bias against Israel, and brings the majority of focus on global issues to Israel almost exclusively. Maybe they aren't silent on issues elsewhere, but they absolutely do bury those resolutions under dozens against Israel.
Even worse, they are morally and legally inconsistent with their resolutions, holding Israel to a clearly much higher standard than other countries and devoting the majority of their time to condemning Israel and not putting equal effort to even worse horrors that happen outside of it.
Maybe its not silencing in the traditional sense, but it is using intentional negligence to put more focus on Israel than any other country (and blatant bias, implying dishonesty), but also other condemnation are minimal (and therefore not taken as seriously) as they will be drowned out by thre more Israel resolutions before anything is done
Nice argument senator, why don't you back it up with a source?
You continue to accuse others of dishonesty but you're the only one here making unsubstantiated claims and trying to argue an opinion as factual. Neither of those things make you seem very credible.
So you think my original claim was that the UN NEVER condemns countries besides Israel? I can see why you’d accuse others of shifting the goalposts if you think that was my original claim
I never challenged your claim, I argued the way you presented it was dishonest. And it was:
Yes, its true that the UN condemns other nations guilty of blatant human rights violations
Its also true that the UN overwhelmingly focuses on Israel to a degree that is clearly biased, condemning Israel several times over for the same crimes commited by other countries that get one to no condemnations.
To leave out the second half of that is the dishonest part
2) Even if it was, that still wouldn't explain the obsessive focus on Israel, considering that there are other genocides currently happening in Sudan, Ukraine, Xinjang Province of China, Nigeria, Yemen, etc.
1.) There is no genocide in Nigeria, and neither have I heard anything about Yemen going through a genocide
2.) How is Russia committing genocide in Ukraine but Israel isn’t committing genocide in Gaza? Especially when the civilian death toll is far higher in the latter case
I’m Nigerian, the claims of Christian genocide are sensationalised by foreign right wing media and separatist movements down south, a bit like when they claimed white people were being subject to genocide in South Africa.
Most of the victims are Muslim, so how can that be classed as a Christian genocide? Do Muslim lives just not count then?
As for Yemen, yes there is a severe humanitarian crisis, but claims of genocide sound new to me, hey maybe you’ll educate me :)
Loved how you dodged the question on Russia/Israel similarities. Ukraine is genocide but Gaza is not despite Gaza’s situation being considerably worse by every conceivable metric. Care to explain your rather convoluted reasoning?
Also, you guys need to be more creative. You can’t claim that “watermelon” people jump to genocide too quickly whilst also claiming the opposite when it doesn’t suit you. It’s called making informed opinions based on facts, you should try it some time
Using "anti-semitism" as a shield to deflect Israel's actions from criticism is abhorrent. It's not "anti-semetic" to call out a genocide. So are those Jewish Israeli people running human rights organizations "anti-semetic" too?
Israel is a lynchpin for the anti-western movement. Don’t get me wrong the Israeli government is doing countless terrible things.
But it is tbh used as a rallying point for anti-western sentiment. It’s why you will see folks in Muslim countries boycotting Coca Cola over Israel, despite coke having little ties to Israel itself.
Modern examples include Cambodia, Rwanda, Sudan / Darfur, and Iraq. All have done things far worse than Israel, you're welcome to read up about those if you want to enter a foul mood. There are other obvious historical examples such as the Ottoman Empire (the Armenian genocide), the Nazis, and then examples that were not universally labelled as genocide, such as China and the Uyghurs.
Virtue signalling often describes behaviour meant to gain social approval without taking meaningful action... However, some argue that these expressions of outrage or moral alignment may reflect genuine concern, and that accusing others of virtue signalling can itself be a form of signalling. This inverse concept has been described as vice signalling and refers to the public promotion of negative or controversial views to appear tough, pragmatic, or rebellious, often for political or social capital.
"In a historic ruling the International Court of Justice has found multiple and serious international law violations by Israel towards Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including, for the first time, finding Israel responsible for apartheid. The court has placed responsibility with all states and the United Nations to end these violations of international law. The ruling should be yet another wake up call for the United States to end its egregious policy of defending Israel’s oppression of Palestinians and prompt a thorough reassessment in other countries as well."
The following quote can be attributed to Tirana Hassan, Human Rights Watch Executive Director:
Nothing in the link you provided mentioned anything within Israel showing apartheid. Just the opinion of an international court ignored by the planet.
The criticisms of the ICJ are many and include a 2004 peer reviewed paper documenting bias by judges systemically, with further reports of such continuing today.
Apartheid is a word with a meaning. Israel is not that.
You’re the one making the claim that there are major international human rights groups that disagree with the assertion that Israel is committing apartheid. Burden of proof is on you
“Easily debunked” is what you said mind you, so shouldn’t be too hard for you mate
Just the opinion of an international court ignored by the planet.
Thanks for the fascist mask-off moment. No argument will ever satisfy you because you don't actually believe in the rule of law. Nobody needs to debate academically what constitutes apartheid or fascism when you are so helpfully demonstrating the praxis of those beliefs.
The ICJ is an inept, toothless organization whose systemic bias is well documented. A nation has to consent to be within their jurisdiction.
I would be satisfied with any argument showing Israel's perceived apartheid. I have yet to see one. The ICJ said so is not valid for the above and other reasons.
As I previously stated and you continue to elucidate for everyone else; no argument will ever satisfy you because you do not believe in the rule of law. Your continuing to attack the international court of justice doesn't exactly counter that conclusion.
Anyways, what would happen if non-jewish citizens start outgrowing jews in Israel? Would that be a problem for the, non-apartheid, only democracy in the middle-east?
Kind of odd how you're avoiding answering. Tells me everything I needed to know from this conversation. We both know what would happen in that very posible scenario. Oh well... good day to you, sir.
This “rebuttal” is so stupid. That’s why you deserve downvotes. When people talk about Israeli apartheid, they’re not talking about Palestinian citizens of Israel, they’re talking about East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Israel controls Area C, without question. Nominally the Palestinian Authority has full control over Area A and partial control over Area B, but in actuality Israel controls all of it.
Your issue is the land taken by Israel whilst defending its borders during a war they didn't start that is governed by a group the inhabitants of that land chose is apartheid?
Okay so if the West Bank is part of Israel, why don’t Palestinians in the West Bank have full rights?
You’ve missed the point of the original comment. Israel de facto controls the West Bank and East Jerusalem and yet they still don’t give Palestinians full rights. That’s called apartheid
My issue is an illegal occupation which has been going on for roughly 60 years. Israel effectively “governs” the lives of 3 million people who aren’t Israeli citizens, and who therefore have very limited protections and rights. That’s the apartheid, yes.
Ok man. How about the fact that a Jewish and Muslim person cannot be legally married in Israel? Or that the Israeli state has exemptions for service for yeshiva students? Or that Muslims are constantly profiled? This is just for the Arab citizens of Israel. They’re carrying out a genocide against the non citizen people of the occupied territories. You should be ashamed of yourself
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for example:
duck duck go
ecosia
lol the founders of duckduckgo and ecosia are both zionists.
Oof. Can someone post links just to confirm?
He's probably just using Zionist as a placeholder for Jew
The only ones who use zionist as a placeholder for all jews, are the zionists. I know many jews who support a palestinian estate and are highly critical of colonization, specially in the west bank.
Do they support a two state?
> The only ones who use zionist as a placeholder for all jews, are the zionists
never seen
> I know many jews who support a palestinian estate and are highly critical of colonization, specially in the west bank.
doesnt mean they are not zionist
Double oof.
Besides, I don't see anything wrong with believing in the national revival of the Jews
The problem with a Jewish national revival in Palestine is there were these people called "Palestinians", who you had to ethnically cleanse to make your Jewish majority ethnostate possible. Happy to teach you more since you zionists always seem to be learning this fact for the first time.
The area that would become Israel proper was majority Jewish before the Nakba.
Hilarious.
Me when I make shit up
ah yes a 5% majority, funny that
Doesn't mean Europeans get to colonize it.
At what cost? Do you not value the lives of the other who were before the revival began?
I don't see the value of the life in the ghetto or the life as a dhimmi. Perhaps you can enlighten me of the value of living under discrimination
You deleted your comment saying zionism doesn't discriminate. The bombs used in the name of it certainly don't.
Don't care about zionism, it's already fulliled. The state of Israel is there and good for those who needed it or whatever. I care more about the self determination of those affected by the fulfillment of zionism, people who are actually suffering.
I deleted because it was irrelevant, I read your comment wrong. Zionism has nothing to do with bombs
Zionism is not fulfilled, Diaspora still exists and the process is not complete. Not everything done in the name of Zionism has something to do with Zionism. Settler violence, for example, has nothing to do with Zionism. I support liberal Zionism
He's probably just using Zionist as a placeholder for Jew
wrong zioinst
Then can you provide a source saying these people are Zionist?
Also Zionist is not a slur
lol, depends when their out celebrating rape, defending settlers who brutalise animals and people, arm them, fund them, protect them, Pretty easy to have a negative impression of Zionists.
But your right, lots of Duckduckgo is bad, no-one actually saying why
https://masjidalaqsa.com/boycott-safe/duckduckgo-israel-bds says its fine.
https://masjidalaqsa.com/boycott-israeli-products-brands-list Nestle on the other hand...
Regardless of their personal beliefs, are they actively supporting Israeli government surveillance like Google is? If not, still better search engine options.
[citation needed]
You don't hear about Google/Microsoft/Amazon employees complaining about a whole lot of other countries using cloud services, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Egypt, China, Iraq, Yemen, Eritrea, Sudan, Myanmar, Nicaragua, and a dozen or so additional dictatorship countries with ongoing civil rights abuses and violence. Sudan has an ongoing genocide for God's sakes.
Project Nimbus is an exclusive contract between Israel and Google specifically with special provisions. None of the countries you listed are part of this agreement.
Google provides cloud computing services in general without the special provisions like this to an extremely limited number of countries. None of the ones you listed have any such contract except Qatar, who unlike Israel is not actively committing genocide and using the technology to assist with this.
The special provisions force google to uphold the contract including for military use no matter what, such as in the event of boycotts, public pressure or human rights violations (all of which have happened), and covertly notify Israel if another country requested information about the agreement or data.
50+ software engineers from Google who developed this technology and are industry leaders in the area were fired for expressing concern or boycotting over Israel’s obvious use of this as a genocide assistance tool. Additionally, google’s own lawyers expressed concern that these computing services would be used to assist Israel in committing human rights violations and genocide.
I swear these people never read the actual posted article. Dude read the word “cloud” and thought “yeah they got those in Sudan too”
he's just a Zionist doing whataboutism, let's not pretend otherwise
Whataboutsim 🤓
I think that’s a reasonable criticism. Same kind of criticism as why the UN only seems capable of condemning Israel despite other condemnable, human rights abusing countries existing that the UN turns blind eyes and ears to. But the natural response to these observations is to just call it “whataboutism” and moonwalk out
None of the countries the guy listed have a cloud computing deal with Google except for Qatar. Qatar isn’t committing a genocide and using the technology to do so.
I think the dude is just computer illiterate and thinks that a country having access to Google over the open internet is the same thing as having the government sign a multi billion dollar ai and cloud computing deal
Qatar gives Hamas valuable diplomatic and political backing—Hamas leadership lives in safety in Qatar, Qatar spends billions of dollars on pro-Hamas propaganda, and Qatar lobbies on Hamas’s behalf in international negotiations. Qatar also provided the funds Israel allowed into Gaza for humanitarian purposes. Qatar plays a crucial role in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas.
I mean he didn’t just mention Google, he mentioned Microsoft and others. Microsoft and Saudi Arabia have a sovereign azure contract https://news.microsoft.com/source/emea/2025/11/pif-site-and-microsoft-sign-mou-to-explore-sovereign%E2%80%91cloud-services-in-saudi-arabia/.
Did you just pull this claim out of your ass? If I look into other countries the guy listed will I find that most countries do have sovereign computing contacts with one of the major companies?
All of those countries have contracts for GCP / Azure / AWS.
Not to mention if you just search for the keywords "UN condemnation" and filter by news you can see every time the UN or a UN body criticizes a country/government, including Guinea-Bissau, the Houthis, Madagascar, Russia, and yes, even Hamas. Not even the barest minimum level of due diligence before putting out complete untruths.
This is not an honest look at it though. Yes its true the UN condemns other countries, but it passes resolutions on Israel 2-3 times more than the next country and several times more than countries like North Korea, Iran, Myanmar and Syria. (Two of which are actively perpetuating genocides).
There's a blatant bias against Israel in the UN, to deny it is to be willfully blind
What's dishonest about it? The original claim was that the UN "turns blind eyes and ears to [other countries' human rights violations]". That's demonstrably false.
You're shifting the goal posts and making unsubstantiated accusations of bias and dishonesty.
I said youre not providing an honest look at it:
It is ALSO true that the UN has a significant bias against Israel, and brings the majority of focus on global issues to Israel almost exclusively. Maybe they aren't silent on issues elsewhere, but they absolutely do bury those resolutions under dozens against Israel.
Even worse, they are morally and legally inconsistent with their resolutions, holding Israel to a clearly much higher standard than other countries and devoting the majority of their time to condemning Israel and not putting equal effort to even worse horrors that happen outside of it.
Maybe its not silencing in the traditional sense, but it is using intentional negligence to put more focus on Israel than any other country (and blatant bias, implying dishonesty), but also other condemnation are minimal (and therefore not taken as seriously) as they will be drowned out by thre more Israel resolutions before anything is done
Nice argument senator, why don't you back it up with a source?
You continue to accuse others of dishonesty but you're the only one here making unsubstantiated claims and trying to argue an opinion as factual. Neither of those things make you seem very credible.
I dont feel responsible giving you sources because I wasn't talking to you.
If the redditor I was engaging asks me for sources, ill provide them.
Something tells me theres very little point continuing that conversation with you
ok buddy.
So you think my original claim was that the UN NEVER condemns countries besides Israel? I can see why you’d accuse others of shifting the goalposts if you think that was my original claim
I never challenged your claim, I argued the way you presented it was dishonest. And it was:
Yes, its true that the UN condemns other nations guilty of blatant human rights violations
Its also true that the UN overwhelmingly focuses on Israel to a degree that is clearly biased, condemning Israel several times over for the same crimes commited by other countries that get one to no condemnations.
To leave out the second half of that is the dishonest part
It's not my fault that you were incapable of making your argument without framing it in the most hyperbolic possible way.
E: lol blocked before I could respond, so much for the tolerant right :(
That’s odd because the other person seemed to understand what I was saying and you’re the one with the hyperbolic interpretation
Edit: I’m not right wing, I’m very much left wing. I just don’t have time for bad faith people
Edit: I don’t feel like my comment left out the second half there, that’s the exact behavior I was attempting to describe?
Nope only Israel. One might call that odd
It's almost like there's something unique about Israel as a nation that drives non-stop unhinged hatred of it from certain populations or something.
The genocide?
1) It's not a genocide.
2) Even if it was, that still wouldn't explain the obsessive focus on Israel, considering that there are other genocides currently happening in Sudan, Ukraine, Xinjang Province of China, Nigeria, Yemen, etc.
The narcissism
and then he has the gall to accuse others of being genocide deniers 🤮
1.) There is no genocide in Nigeria, and neither have I heard anything about Yemen going through a genocide
2.) How is Russia committing genocide in Ukraine but Israel isn’t committing genocide in Gaza? Especially when the civilian death toll is far higher in the latter case
Watermelon crowd denying genocide? Must be a day that ends in "y".
I’m Nigerian, the claims of Christian genocide are sensationalised by foreign right wing media and separatist movements down south, a bit like when they claimed white people were being subject to genocide in South Africa.
Most of the victims are Muslim, so how can that be classed as a Christian genocide? Do Muslim lives just not count then?
As for Yemen, yes there is a severe humanitarian crisis, but claims of genocide sound new to me, hey maybe you’ll educate me :)
Loved how you dodged the question on Russia/Israel similarities. Ukraine is genocide but Gaza is not despite Gaza’s situation being considerably worse by every conceivable metric. Care to explain your rather convoluted reasoning?
Also, you guys need to be more creative. You can’t claim that “watermelon” people jump to genocide too quickly whilst also claiming the opposite when it doesn’t suit you. It’s called making informed opinions based on facts, you should try it some time
The only "obsessive focus" is you denying the genocide caused by Israel while acknowledging other genocides. That's just pure denial and whataboutism.
No, it’s just concentrating on facts, not emotions driven by antisemitism.
Using "anti-semitism" as a shield to deflect Israel's actions from criticism is abhorrent. It's not "anti-semetic" to call out a genocide. So are those Jewish Israeli people running human rights organizations "anti-semetic" too?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/07/israel-opt-israeli-organizations-conclude-israel-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza-in-another-milestone-for-accountability-efforts/
I said emotions driven by antisemitism. Stop making straw man arguments.
I'm not making a strawman, you're being semantical.
Apartheid and genocide are quite detestable to people with working moral compasses
Israel is a lynchpin for the anti-western movement. Don’t get me wrong the Israeli government is doing countless terrible things.
But it is tbh used as a rallying point for anti-western sentiment. It’s why you will see folks in Muslim countries boycotting Coca Cola over Israel, despite coke having little ties to Israel itself.
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That is deeply ignorant, and that is the most charitable way I can put it. Take a look around.
So what other county has committed land theft, apartheid and genocide?
Modern examples include Cambodia, Rwanda, Sudan / Darfur, and Iraq. All have done things far worse than Israel, you're welcome to read up about those if you want to enter a foul mood. There are other obvious historical examples such as the Ottoman Empire (the Armenian genocide), the Nazis, and then examples that were not universally labelled as genocide, such as China and the Uyghurs.
None of those countries have committed decades of land theft and apartheid like Israel has.
Israel’s been stealing land since 1967, and have decades of apartheid under their belt.
When Dorsey was still in charge ISIS had an official Twitter page.
So?
Any employee who protests against their employer on the employer's property and doesn't expect to get fired is an imbecile of highest degree.
Who says they didn’t expect to get fired?
Was Snowden just “an imbecile of the highest degree” or a “virtue signaller”
I mean there's a slight difference between protesting and leaking classified documents to the press lol
None of the those countries are committing apartheid.
Again, Israel has been an apartheid state for decades. Longer than South Africa’s apartheid
How is it an apartheid state?
It isn't. ~25% of elected officials are Arab. Arabs have equal rights in Israel.
Downvotes for statements of fact you don't like go here vvvvvvvv
It’s a literal legal fact that Israel very much is an a apartheid state
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/07/19/world-court-finds-israel-responsible-apartheid
"In a historic ruling the International Court of Justice has found multiple and serious international law violations by Israel towards Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including, for the first time, finding Israel responsible for apartheid. The court has placed responsibility with all states and the United Nations to end these violations of international law. The ruling should be yet another wake up call for the United States to end its egregious policy of defending Israel’s oppression of Palestinians and prompt a thorough reassessment in other countries as well."
You forgot the sentence before the quote,
The following quote can be attributed to Tirana Hassan, Human Rights Watch Executive Director:
Nothing in the link you provided mentioned anything within Israel showing apartheid. Just the opinion of an international court ignored by the planet.
The criticisms of the ICJ are many and include a 2004 peer reviewed paper documenting bias by judges systemically, with further reports of such continuing today.
Apartheid is a word with a meaning. Israel is not that.
The ICJ is the top international court.
Also every major international human rights groups have reported extensively on Israeli apartheid.
Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, even Israeli group B’Tselem
Not every major international human rights group has declared Israel an apartheid state.
You would better support your position without using easily debunked absolutes.
Which ones haven’t?
No clue. Google is your friend. Blanket statements are easily debunked. Go for it. Or don't.
You’re the one making the claim that there are major international human rights groups that disagree with the assertion that Israel is committing apartheid. Burden of proof is on you
“Easily debunked” is what you said mind you, so shouldn’t be too hard for you mate
Yes they have. Not only that they’ve also all said Israel is committing genocide
Yes all. Every single human rights group in existance. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Thanks for the fascist mask-off moment. No argument will ever satisfy you because you don't actually believe in the rule of law. Nobody needs to debate academically what constitutes apartheid or fascism when you are so helpfully demonstrating the praxis of those beliefs.
The ICJ is an inept, toothless organization whose systemic bias is well documented. A nation has to consent to be within their jurisdiction.
I would be satisfied with any argument showing Israel's perceived apartheid. I have yet to see one. The ICJ said so is not valid for the above and other reasons.
As I previously stated and you continue to elucidate for everyone else; no argument will ever satisfy you because you do not believe in the rule of law. Your continuing to attack the international court of justice doesn't exactly counter that conclusion.
Thanks for sharing
No problem. Good luck with your crusade against the rule of law. Historically speaking, it turns out really well for those kinds of people!
What would happen if one day non jewish citizens start outgrowing the jewish population?
What would happen if I woke up 17 years from now and the sun was blue?
Why not give me an answer? Is it a ethnostate or something?
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Anyways, what would happen if non-jewish citizens start outgrowing jews in Israel? Would that be a problem for the, non-apartheid, only democracy in the middle-east?
What would happen if cows started flying in established air traffic corridors?
The iron dome would sadly kill them all.
Kind of odd how you're avoiding answering. Tells me everything I needed to know from this conversation. We both know what would happen in that very posible scenario. Oh well... good day to you, sir.
This “rebuttal” is so stupid. That’s why you deserve downvotes. When people talk about Israeli apartheid, they’re not talking about Palestinian citizens of Israel, they’re talking about East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Israel controls Area C, without question. Nominally the Palestinian Authority has full control over Area A and partial control over Area B, but in actuality Israel controls all of it.
Your issue is the land taken by Israel whilst defending its borders during a war they didn't start that is governed by a group the inhabitants of that land chose is apartheid?
Israel is not at war with the West Bank
Correct. Israel acquired the land as a result of a war brought upon them as stated in the comment you replied to.
Okay so if the West Bank is part of Israel, why don’t Palestinians in the West Bank have full rights?
You’ve missed the point of the original comment. Israel de facto controls the West Bank and East Jerusalem and yet they still don’t give Palestinians full rights. That’s called apartheid
My issue is an illegal occupation which has been going on for roughly 60 years. Israel effectively “governs” the lives of 3 million people who aren’t Israeli citizens, and who therefore have very limited protections and rights. That’s the apartheid, yes.
Every major international human rights groups have made several reports on this. Google it.
Also even Israeli human rights groups like B’Tselem have made reports on Israeli apartheid , so you can look them up too
Provide a source
I just gave you the tools to find the sources
And I know I’ve conversed with you before as I recognize your screen name. You’re playing dumb
You make the claim, you back it up
Why does Hasbara exist?
How is that relevant to the definition of apartheid?
How did you type this sentence without a brain?! Neuroscience needs to make note of this
No one has answered the question yet.
Can you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People?wprov=sfti1#
So a Muslim country would be an apartheid state as well?
Ok man. How about the fact that a Jewish and Muslim person cannot be legally married in Israel? Or that the Israeli state has exemptions for service for yeshiva students? Or that Muslims are constantly profiled? This is just for the Arab citizens of Israel. They’re carrying out a genocide against the non citizen people of the occupied territories. You should be ashamed of yourself
A Christian can't marry a Muslim in Israel either. Neither can an atheist.
Because a religious leader has to perform the ceremony.
Yea hence its an apartheid state.
In Italy, non Catholic marriages are invalid.
Is Italy an apartheid state?
Google is genocider
so many zioinsts here
Sounds like Google has become dual use. Iran knows what to do in the next round