What about the sentence is hard for you to understand?
I'm anti-trans, and that song was bad art. They could've made a better song about surgical transition, but instead the wrote an extremely clumsy tune about turning "Penis to Vagina".
I expect Cameron loved some technical aspect and Villeneuve found it visually impressive or something. Those are the main things those two really care about.
Well they’re public personalities and if they say it’s dog shit, certain people will scream online to boycott and try to get them cancelled. That puddle of parvo diarrhea of a movie only won awards because the academy virtue signals sometimes.
I’m gay af and I 100% support trans people but JFC that movie was a real stinker.
When you watch it as a satirical film, it becomes genuinely funny to the point its so bad that it becomes good. The issue is that people are taking it seriously, rather than as a satirical take. It is awful if you try to watch it seriously, since nothing makes sense. However, when you take it as satire the awfulness becomes poetic and comes off as intentional over-the-top stupidity. Like The Room.
EDIT:
People asking me how the fuck is it satire. Note, I am NOT defending this movie, because it was not written with the interpretations I am making when I am saying it works as satire.
Basically, the movie functions as a satire of Hollywood's most hollow melodramatic shit, like films where the plot collapses the moment you think about its plot and ones where characters are built not from motivation or psychology but from identity labels treated as emotional shortcuts. Hollywood has a habit of using gender, sexuality, race, or disability etc... as a substitute for actual character development, reducing marginalized characters to setpieces rather than people. The result is usually patronizing, identity becomes the entire personality, the entire moral arc, the entire justification for the character's existence etc... Every gay people must have the same story about society , and shit like 'kill your gays' type of troping.
The film pushes this tendency to its breaking point, when you read it as satire. Emilia is written as a deliberately exaggerated figure - a violent, larger‑than‑life criminal whose sudden claim to sympathy rests almost entirely on her identity rather than her actions. The narrative leans into the trope that a marginalized identity automatically confers moral depth or correctness, exposing how reductive that logic becomes when applied without nuance. Instead of exploring Emilia as a complex human being, the story frames her identity as a kind of narrative shield, a way to redirect the viewers attention away from her brutality and toward a melodramatic plea for understanding her as some underdog. They just casually build up this fact that she is a psychopath, but then rest on the laurels of "She is trans, so you know life is hard. She is messed up. She is trans! Did I remind you she is trans?".
This exaggeration is the satire. By presenting a character whose horrific actions are reframed through an overwrought "you don't understand her pain" lens, it mirrors Hollywood's tendency to flatten minority characters into symbols of suffering or resilience rather than allowing them to be flawed, contradictory, or fully human. The backdrop being an unrealistically insanely racist caricature Mexico works here because it highlights how Hollywood often exoticizes entire cultures to heighten emotional stakes, turning real places into dramatic props. Middle-east gets weird flute music, and SA gets the weird yellow filter, SEA gets a green filter etc...
When you pretend it is a satire, it isn't endorsing these tropes. I am not saying the writing is good, I am saying that if you view it as a satire piece it's the film saying "look how ridiculous this shit becomes when pushed to its logical extreme". Emilia is not a misunderstood antihero, she is a cartoonishly violent criminal who happens to be trans. It's not mocking transpeople, it's mocking the industry's refusal to write minority characters with the same complexity, agency, and moral ambiguity it freely gives to others.
But obviously, none of what I say mean shit because they wrote it 100% seriously and genuinely believe that they wrote a deep-piece on a trans drug lord. But, I just happen to think it is very camp and accidental satire.
From OP’s description, it sounds like if you tasked Trey Parker and Matt Stone to sweeping the Oscars. Make something on a touchy subject as Oscar bait, but make it as stupid and offensive as possible at the same time. Skewer the Hollywood elite and media industry for falling for it.
As I took it, it sounds more like its target would be Hollywood's elites/the subculture they belong to, for their excesses in virtue signalling and other kinds of shortcutting
I saw 2 kind of people liking this movie french people and people who don't know spanish and don't wanna learn anything about latin america.
The argument I heard is that soundtrack is good if you don't understand spanish, wich is a wild thing to say. And that because it is a movie it dosen't need to be realistic, wich, ok true, but why take place in Mexico if the country is inrelevant then? Why not make the movie take place in a fictional country?
I once had an Indian friend tell me that the terrorists in the first Iron Man sound more like they’re speaking Hindi rather than Pashto. No clue how true that is though.
The summary in the title might make this film seem ridiculous, but it is nothing compared to the entire plot summary. It’s incredible this film got made in the first place, much less nominated for a ton of academy awards.
I mean, beyond critics other very talented directors were effusive about the film which was definitely a head scratcher. GDT, Cameron, Mann, Villenueve all loved it.
Do you really think any director or Hollywood person will say it sucks and risk being canceled? They're in a cult. The reason it recieved so many Awards it's because it was a perfect con job to bait these people for virtue signaling.
While that PR catastrophe was happening, Zoe Saldana probably thought her awards chances were evaporating in front of her eyes like Kirsten Dunst during Von Trier’s legendary failure at making a joke.
If you ever needed a better example of the insincerity of Hollywood’s preaching about representation, this was it. Critics and A listers gushed over the representation in this movie, when both of the groups being “represented” said it was total shit.
I remember sitting in a theater when the ad for this movie came on and I literally couldn't stop myself from laughing, the concept was so obviously horrible.
It would be fun to imagine an equivalent movie that gets the same amount of things weirdly wrong about American culture, with offensive stereotypes sprinkled in for good measure. What would that look like?
I’m aware that it’s French. I was thinking that, because it seems like American culture is already taken for granted as well-known and influential outside the US, it would require more of an intentional effort for another country to make a movie set in America that is the same level of wrong and culturally insulting.
Something like a reference to how we’re all obsessed with eating horse meat, and that’s why only the wealthy still have horses. Not JUST inaccurate, but inaccurate in a way that’s baffling to anyone who actually lives here.
I mean what did you expect when you decide to let the French make a movie like this?
It's like Germans making an animated movie about Christopher Columbus discovering America with a talking wood worm. Can you imagine if someone actually made it?
I watched the Oscars live in a cinema. Every time this piece of crap movie was mentioned the entire audience booed. It was pretentious Oscar bait, created in the assumption no one would actually watch it.
It would have been better if it had the cartel start off thinking, its so easy. They go to some trans groups, hang out and then slowly learns how difficult it is to be trans, to be born in a body and assigned a gender you don't agree with. This leads them to realise they probably shouldn't go through with it and come out a better person for it, or at least not transphobic since they're a cartel leader.
I remember this movie being praised when it came out, and then in one moment everybody suddenly turned on it and it became hated. And ngl, that makes me wanna see it more than I initially did
What would be your 10 picks for best picture noms last year?
(mine would be Challengers, Anora, I Saw The TV Glow, The Brutalist, Furiosa, A Different Man, Kinds Of Kindness, The Apprentice, Between The Temples, and Universal Language.)
hey, i know that one! that's the one where they describe "sex change operations" in song!
Penis to vagina
Ah, you made me remember that crap. Curses!
My transphobic self knows, deep down... they could've writen a better song to describe the moment, but they chose not to.
???
What about the sentence is hard for you to understand?
I'm anti-trans, and that song was bad art. They could've made a better song about surgical transition, but instead the wrote an extremely clumsy tune about turning "Penis to Vagina".
I see I see I see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jhiP-wFrA
Trans people also hated this movie. 0 for 2.
Did anyone like this garbage lmao, I haven't seen a single person praising it at all
That song that somehow won an oscar was utter dog ass too, like what a piece of shit lol
This movie was engineered to be offensive for every single demographic around
Except film critics for some reason
Film critics with low knowledge of the different cultures involved.
Yet Guillermo del Toro, a Mexican, also liked it
Yeah, but he's got a known soft spot for frighteningly ugly abominations
LMFAO
Guillermo Del Toro
I only remember this because /r/movies didn’t know what to do when that info came out lmao
Not just him but Mann, Villeneueve and Cameron all loved it too.
I don’t get it.
I expect Cameron loved some technical aspect and Villeneuve found it visually impressive or something. Those are the main things those two really care about.
Well they’re public personalities and if they say it’s dog shit, certain people will scream online to boycott and try to get them cancelled. That puddle of parvo diarrhea of a movie only won awards because the academy virtue signals sometimes.
I’m gay af and I 100% support trans people but JFC that movie was a real stinker.
I mean if being cancelled was a concern then they could have just not said anything
Hollywood executives liked it, maybe because they thought they were being progressive.
awards shows did! it got a nomination for everything under the sun, strictly for virtue signaling reasons
What was it virtue signaling?
Literally just hollywood giving itself a medal
When you watch it as a satirical film, it becomes genuinely funny to the point its so bad that it becomes good. The issue is that people are taking it seriously, rather than as a satirical take. It is awful if you try to watch it seriously, since nothing makes sense. However, when you take it as satire the awfulness becomes poetic and comes off as intentional over-the-top stupidity. Like The Room.
EDIT:
People asking me how the fuck is it satire. Note, I am NOT defending this movie, because it was not written with the interpretations I am making when I am saying it works as satire.
Basically, the movie functions as a satire of Hollywood's most hollow melodramatic shit, like films where the plot collapses the moment you think about its plot and ones where characters are built not from motivation or psychology but from identity labels treated as emotional shortcuts. Hollywood has a habit of using gender, sexuality, race, or disability etc... as a substitute for actual character development, reducing marginalized characters to setpieces rather than people. The result is usually patronizing, identity becomes the entire personality, the entire moral arc, the entire justification for the character's existence etc... Every gay people must have the same story about society , and shit like 'kill your gays' type of troping.
The film pushes this tendency to its breaking point, when you read it as satire. Emilia is written as a deliberately exaggerated figure - a violent, larger‑than‑life criminal whose sudden claim to sympathy rests almost entirely on her identity rather than her actions. The narrative leans into the trope that a marginalized identity automatically confers moral depth or correctness, exposing how reductive that logic becomes when applied without nuance. Instead of exploring Emilia as a complex human being, the story frames her identity as a kind of narrative shield, a way to redirect the viewers attention away from her brutality and toward a melodramatic plea for understanding her as some underdog. They just casually build up this fact that she is a psychopath, but then rest on the laurels of "She is trans, so you know life is hard. She is messed up. She is trans! Did I remind you she is trans?".
This exaggeration is the satire. By presenting a character whose horrific actions are reframed through an overwrought "you don't understand her pain" lens, it mirrors Hollywood's tendency to flatten minority characters into symbols of suffering or resilience rather than allowing them to be flawed, contradictory, or fully human. The backdrop being an unrealistically insanely racist caricature Mexico works here because it highlights how Hollywood often exoticizes entire cultures to heighten emotional stakes, turning real places into dramatic props. Middle-east gets weird flute music, and SA gets the weird yellow filter, SEA gets a green filter etc...
When you pretend it is a satire, it isn't endorsing these tropes. I am not saying the writing is good, I am saying that if you view it as a satire piece it's the film saying "look how ridiculous this shit becomes when pushed to its logical extreme". Emilia is not a misunderstood antihero, she is a cartoonishly violent criminal who happens to be trans. It's not mocking transpeople, it's mocking the industry's refusal to write minority characters with the same complexity, agency, and moral ambiguity it freely gives to others.
But obviously, none of what I say mean shit because they wrote it 100% seriously and genuinely believe that they wrote a deep-piece on a trans drug lord. But, I just happen to think it is very camp and accidental satire.
Satire of what? I'm not sure you know what that word means, considering your use of it. Of Mecixo? Of trans people?
Your comment doesn't make sense.
The idea of a monster like a cartel leader doing such a human and emotionful thing like transitioning. Or something. Still weird, kinda.
From OP’s description, it sounds like if you tasked Trey Parker and Matt Stone to sweeping the Oscars. Make something on a touchy subject as Oscar bait, but make it as stupid and offensive as possible at the same time. Skewer the Hollywood elite and media industry for falling for it.
Now if only that was the intention …
As I took it, it sounds more like its target would be Hollywood's elites/the subculture they belong to, for their excesses in virtue signalling and other kinds of shortcutting
Apparently the Cannes people loved it.
I saw 2 kind of people liking this movie french people and people who don't know spanish and don't wanna learn anything about latin america.
The argument I heard is that soundtrack is good if you don't understand spanish, wich is a wild thing to say. And that because it is a movie it dosen't need to be realistic, wich, ok true, but why take place in Mexico if the country is inrelevant then? Why not make the movie take place in a fictional country?
What? You didn’t like the Penis to Vagina song?
And fans of musicals.
0 for 3.
Only hollywood self gloaters loved this movie.
So no one
I'm not Mexican but being Brazilian I can understand their hate for the movie.
That one Hulk movie with Ed Norton had actors who can't even speak the language.
I once had an Indian friend tell me that the terrorists in the first Iron Man sound more like they’re speaking Hindi rather than Pashto. No clue how true that is though.
The summary in the title might make this film seem ridiculous, but it is nothing compared to the entire plot summary. It’s incredible this film got made in the first place, much less nominated for a ton of academy awards.
Not only nominated but won a lot of them! That doesn't really fit with "panned" to me, strictly speaking.
it does say “in Mexico, it was panned” and then in the next paragraph describes how despite it being so polarising, it won a bunch of awards
The movie that made the Academy make it a rule that voters have to actually watch the movies they vote on
It was not “panned” by critics in any way. If anything, it was propped up and got an inordinate amount of flowers for how fuckin shit it was.
The critics are neither trans nor Mexican so they Fell for a con job of 'representation' that might as well have been blackface.
I mean, beyond critics other very talented directors were effusive about the film which was definitely a head scratcher. GDT, Cameron, Mann, Villenueve all loved it.
different strokes I guess but goddamn.
Do you really think any director or Hollywood person will say it sucks and risk being canceled? They're in a cult. The reason it recieved so many Awards it's because it was a perfect con job to bait these people for virtue signaling.
Eugenio Derbez, a Mexican actor, criticized it and had to walk it back after backlash.
I bet Del Toro didn't like it.
Yeah he didn’t like it, he loved it.
That's embarrassing.
It would've won had the lead's racist tweets not come to light, that's the craziest thing.
While that PR catastrophe was happening, Zoe Saldana probably thought her awards chances were evaporating in front of her eyes like Kirsten Dunst during Von Trier’s legendary failure at making a joke.
If you ever needed a better example of the insincerity of Hollywood’s preaching about representation, this was it. Critics and A listers gushed over the representation in this movie, when both of the groups being “represented” said it was total shit.
One of the best movies of 2025 is Mexican theatre kids mocking this terrible, terrible movie. Hooray for Johanne Sacreblu!
dammit now I have 'penis to vaginaaaaaaa' stuck in my head again
I still can't believe this garbage movie got nominated for Oscars and even won a couple.
I remember sitting in a theater when the ad for this movie came on and I literally couldn't stop myself from laughing, the concept was so obviously horrible.
It would be fun to imagine an equivalent movie that gets the same amount of things weirdly wrong about American culture, with offensive stereotypes sprinkled in for good measure. What would that look like?
emilia pérez is a french movie, & a mexican trans woman made a parody with french stereotypes called johanne sacreblu
I’m aware that it’s French. I was thinking that, because it seems like American culture is already taken for granted as well-known and influential outside the US, it would require more of an intentional effort for another country to make a movie set in America that is the same level of wrong and culturally insulting.
Something like a reference to how we’re all obsessed with eating horse meat, and that’s why only the wealthy still have horses. Not JUST inaccurate, but inaccurate in a way that’s baffling to anyone who actually lives here.
This is a Fr*nch movie
I mean what did you expect when you decide to let the French make a movie like this?
It's like Germans making an animated movie about Christopher Columbus discovering America with a talking wood worm. Can you imagine if someone actually made it?
Here's an unrelated image.
The director had the gal of saying there weren't mexican actors goid enouth to cast in the movie, shit was wild.
I watched the Oscars live in a cinema. Every time this piece of crap movie was mentioned the entire audience booed. It was pretentious Oscar bait, created in the assumption no one would actually watch it.
It would have been better if it had the cartel start off thinking, its so easy. They go to some trans groups, hang out and then slowly learns how difficult it is to be trans, to be born in a body and assigned a gender you don't agree with. This leads them to realise they probably shouldn't go through with it and come out a better person for it, or at least not transphobic since they're a cartel leader.
I liked it :(
I remember this movie being praised when it came out, and then in one moment everybody suddenly turned on it and it became hated. And ngl, that makes me wanna see it more than I initially did
I went into it expecting to hate it, but this movie was surprisingly enjoyable.
Are you by any chance in the academy?
Lol. No and I don’t even think it deserved to be nominated for best picture.
What would be your 10 picks for best picture noms last year?
(mine would be Challengers, Anora, I Saw The TV Glow, The Brutalist, Furiosa, A Different Man, Kinds Of Kindness, The Apprentice, Between The Temples, and Universal Language.)
This is the only movie where everyone acknowledges its politics were the reason it got the awards it did.
Lucky that doesn't really happen noww