There's something especially weird about the bodyshaming men gets. It feels almost....systematic? Let me explain...
Society will both make fun of men who it deems "lesser", but it will also make fun of any man who tries to compensate for it. Like, if a short guy works out, he has "Napoleon Syndrome".
Its a real Catch 22. Its like the people doing this want a specific group of men they can put lower on the societal totem pole. And if those men climb up, they won't have a valid target to bully anymore.
This is just toxic masculinity as a whole. If a man has a trait that can be exploited as “undesirable” they are deemed lesser, but the entire point is that it isn’t logical, and it shouldn’t have to be illogical to be wrong. If it “made perfect sense” to be racist or bigoted that doesn’t make that thing right or morally just.
Also, this phenomena is not gender specific, for example: women who have pronounced facial features are “butter faced” but if they receive cosmetic surgery to de-emphasize those areas of their face, they are both attention-seeking and also “fake”.
Ultimately this does stem from the fact that hierarchical structures found in the patriarchy and capitalism innately require someone to be forced lower on that hierarchy, and when you can’t justify someone’s lower position based off of a “logical” reason to keep them down, you make up an illogical reason.
“No you see they’re perpetuating the toxic image of genitalia determining your self worth so me perpetuating it is merely putting them on their own standards despite the fact I don’t make it clear this is still wrong anyways”.
Or dangerously obese, there’s a crazy rabbit hole about it. If people try to lose weight, esp those who are morbidly obese and want to improve their health, they will be shamed and insulted by other people their size. It’s an insecurity and control thing, I think.
IME queer groups can be really vicious about baldness.
My male-pattern baldness is a source of significant insecurity for me, but it's an "acceptable target" because of its association with masculinity. I'm caught in the crossfire even though I am not a man. Not that it should matter. Men deserve to have their bodies respected, too.
As a fat chick who has gotten into many arguments about this, can confirm. Shit is disappointing.
I've literally mentioned thinking someone is good looking to OTHER FAT GIRLS and they almost always have something negative to say, whether it's about the good looking person's height, or natural physique/propositions, or whatever. Like dude... what??
My wife is heavy set herself due to hormonal disorders and medicine she used to take. However, since she changed meds and began eating better, she's been losing about 1.5 lbs a week.
I'm proud of her yet still ensure to call her beautiful 🥺
To your point, maybe it is just envy of some sort?
Well, I hope however her body changes, she is happy with herself through it all. <3
And that's good!
Yeah, definitely. Stuff like that is always a projection of one insecurity or another, fr. Hell, even I've noticed that I've grown my confident with myself I've become much less critical of others.
Side note but related: Bodies have a tendency to change and go through phases no matter what the reason or the change, and I think people seek way too much comfort in clinging to one specific thing, which is why body positivity, specifically with fat people, is so enticing - because it's something you can rely on never changing if you don't actively chose to change it. You can decide you like being fat, and not have to worry about it being taken away from you. Even people with disabilities or conditions that cause weight gain (in my experience!!) will all tell you that body NEUTRALITY is much more important because you never know what time will do to ya. But also neutralizing your view on your own body really does help with your opinion on shit like this as a whole, imo. Letting go of labels and predisposition towards any and all "types" allows you to appreciate things without some fickle social structure fucking with your perception or opinions.
If it's made by a stranger, it's a dick move. If it's made by your friends, it's some of the best banter, especially if you can bounce off of them well.
Source: I was the short friend. All my friends were basketball player lookin' ass mfs
Ooh, my parents keep telling me this! And it is SOOO annoying, like they keep telling me I’m “too thin” and “need to eat more” but like, I’m not even skinny?! I have a muffin top and yet they STILL call me skinny?! It’s so annoying
I've been bullied for not being conveniently attractive by other people who also aren't. But suddenly i'm body shaming when i point out they're also not conveniently attractive.
I also used to think this was a goomba fallacy thing until I met multiple people in real life who claimed to support body positivity while still making fun of men for being bald or short.
I don't know what you think body positivity is, but I have never interacted with anyone who was upset at someone for losing weight.
One of the main points of body positivity is that shaming people for being overweight doesn't help them lose weight. So I don't see why they'd be upset about that, unless there's more context i'm missing here.
Araiki's comment may be about a situation when someone takes any remarks about their or anyone's weight as shaming and uses body positivity as an excuse to not change for whatever reason. I may be wrong though.
I have seen literally dozens of people be insulted for choosing to look healthy and lean instead of being ok overweight. Also body positivity is accepting people are overweight, but it isn’t pretending they aren’t unhealthy. Ideally someone should be ok with the way that they look, and if they aren’t they should work to change that. They shouldn’t be convinced to stay complacent.
I see, I stand corrected. That's really stupid then lol
I definitely agree with the spirit of what you're saying. But I do need to mention as someone who used to be severely underweight, sometimes people are unhappy due to unrealistic standards instead of actually being too heavy.
But yeah people should definitely try to reach healthy weights. There are so many benefits that go beyond looks.
Absolutely. Being underweight and overweight are both unhealthy, and they can be issues. But I agree that change is something that should be spurred by one’s own desires and not because they’re bullied into it, and one should make sure the pendulum doesn’t swing to far in the other direction.
Nope, they’re talking about overweight people shaming other overweight people for losing weight, a popular example would be when Adele was shamed for losing weight bc so many overweight girls looked up to her.
Originally it's was about injuries you couldn't do anything about like war scars and similar, but then lazy people who started use it as excuse to do nothing joined in.
as a woman I could NOT care about height. I'm 5'1". EVERYONE is taller than me. actually, if someone's over 6' they're too tall for me because then I can't pet their hair while standing 😔
Dude honestly i hope my comment didnt come off all sad about height cause im short but im chill with it, my comment does go both ways where guys that complain about being single cause short are just using an excuse. But yeah im only like 5,7 so i’d say im perfectly in the middle, as long as you are personable enough you can catch the eye of shorter and taller people. Also that last sentence might be real.
nah man you're totally cool. a lot of people just assume all women want tall guys only... then they just forget about the people who are intimidatingly small lol. id only want to be shorter than my partner, but I'm not exactly breaking out a measuring stick. 5'7" is perfectly fine and average, I see a ton of guys with girlfriends of that height 👍
Very true, i dated a girl that was 6,2 once and i felt both terrified and attracted at the same time. For all the short guys out there (at least in my experience) tall girls tend to like short guys (or girls) so both metaphorically and literally, shoot for the moon.
if only it was that easy. being ace with a chronic illness makes me... incompatible with a lot of people. would need a dang unicorn to put up with me hah. best of luck to your endeavors though 🫡
Y'know what? I've been holding this in long enough. I don't care if this gets nuked, I need to say it. All of these performative positivity cunts are the biggest hypocrites imaginable.
"mental health awareness" until it's a systemic malignant narcissist using their ego to put people down, then they're empowering, inspirational, "literally me", or entertaining somehow. I won't even mention the lolcow shit or the glorification of isolationist selfishness (sorry, "independence").
NIMBY but "we need a strong community."
"body positivity" until it's a dwarf, a paraplegic, a burn victim, or even just a dude with a small dick, then they're just funny or a punching bag. Don't even mention bald or short people. Fat people sometimes can be the most back-handely catty assholes about other people "getting fat" and it's ridiculous. Ask my sister how she knows.
"Stop saying 'retarded'!" but the second someone's autistic or has ADHD, they treat that person like a fucking golden retriever, a baby who can't comprehend right or wrong, or like patient zero for a zombie virus. Ask me how I know.
"Stop generalizing about groups of people!" then proceeds to profile people they don't like, or use the same strategies/talking points of corrupt bigots to get their points across (see: "if men aren't all evil, then why do they feel the need to say 'not all men' when we say 'all men are evil'?", which is three steps removed from a privileged white person saying "if these black people did nothing wrong, then why were they running from a cop?", just, in the context of internet discourse around the crimes against women)
Hell, there's people who genuinely think we shouldn't be angry about multi-millionaires and billionaires existing (or get uncomfortable when you talk about that) because they genuinely think they'll be the next one, and then they'll go and wax fucking poetry about the evils of capitalism and classism in America on socials for likes and validation, or in a conversation right in fucking front of you to someone else for that same purpose. (again, ask me how I know)
It all fucking sucks because nobody ever actually fucking works to deconstruct the issues they're supposedly against, they just like circlejerking in their stupid godforsaken self-assured echo chambers and feeding their egos. They like the attention they get from posting trendy phrases and tut-tutting those they feel either aren't good enough or are patently below them. Whatever puts them up top and the undesirables below will be what they do until they either get bored or die. It's the worst when they're single and are supposedly super liberal or "woke" or whatever it'll be called next, but then they get married and turn into the biggest fucking institutional, square opp you've ever seen in your life.
And thus, we're trapped in this stupid ouroboros of finger-pointing and infighting, while performative toxic positivity people keep trying to micromanage every thing imaginable while soapboxing, and the demons in power keep stealing our money, attention, freedoms, neighbors and souls to get just a little more money and power before dying a quiet, cushy death. It's so fucking tiring. I'm tired. I don't even know how we can change from this cycle, because like three trillion-dollar entities have a vested interest in keeping us stuck like this (well, I do have one idea, but I can't say it), and a seemingly overwhelming majority of people seem content with being a product and nothing more, or conditioned into actually liking this dogmatic nightmare.
That is a fair point tbh, there are some very stupid people in this world. I'm all for body positivity of all kinds, not just weight. These people really give us body positivity supporters a bad name. Have a nice day man :)
Maybe I’m too problem-solvery but literally any time I think about overweight body positivity all I can think of is people actively ignoring a healthier life.
Like I would HATE to be surrounded by people who tell me I’m beautiful the way I am cause that’s just willingly ignoring something that IS a problem.
IME queer groups can be really vicious about baldness.
My male-pattern baldness is a source of significant insecurity for me, but it's an "acceptable target" because of its association with masculinity. I'm caught in the crossfire even though I am not a man.
Body Positivity is only for healthy and beautiful I tell you. Slightly overweight - go to gym, has too many moles - get rid of them, has high gums - don't smile, eczema - you have leprosy, too short - ew, too tall - ew, not buff - he is a wimp, buff a little bit - she is a hulk, and so on and so on, fat people DO NOT get positivity at all, I tell you, not from the internet.
The only "body positivity" definition I stand by - just don't give comments about someone's body if it is not necessary, and just be decent to people no matter their appearance? Commenting is rude, I thought most people were raised the same way?
Ok so ive heard about body neutrality which i took as "hell yeah its ok to hate your body don't let yourself fall victim to toxic positivity" turns out it's repackaged body positivity and im so fucking mad
At the end of the day you can still control the energy that goes into you, because the energy out varies. It’s not like thermodynamics stops working because your body uses less energy, it’s just another parameter you need to adjust for. Gyms aren’t necessary since you can do bodyweight exercises which are still very modifiable to suit the needs of the user. And I somehow manage to eat healthy on a decently small budget despite being in a food desert and having disordered eating, so it’s definitely possible.
I eat one wrong food and I’m losing weight because I’m disgustingly sick for weeks and my body will not absorb the vitamins and nutrients I need because my immune system thinks my stomach is under attack.
Some people struggle to lose weight for things like mobility issues that make it hard to exercise. You can eat healthy all day but I’m sure some people just don’t have the metabolism to back it up when they can’t be super active on their own.
Not to mention the actual grasp eating disorders can have on someone’s mental health. You can’t just decide to stop being mentally ill overnight and decide you’re done binge eating or purging, it takes a lot of work, medicine, and self reflection to realize there’s a problem.
But those are outliers. The average person CAN control their weight.
You can't control your height, your skin color, your schlong size (surgeries do not count). If there is one thing you cannot beat, it's the laws of thermodynamics. Energy in, energy out.
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"Body positivity" people when talking about people they don't like:
Who the fuck is that!?
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It’s Jim Carry :3
Well clearly it's not, I think he got yassified for some reason
Oh feck… I didn’t even notice…
99% of stuff posted on botchedsurgery
"body positivity" mfs when they default to insults about the length of a man's thingaling
Some times the biggest gifts come in the smallest boxes
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This is one of the bigger gifs indeed
F you
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this dude CRASHES OUT over harmless meme
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Can we get any smaller?
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We are reaching tiny level never before seen by mortals
When you realize 2014 is only 3 days away...
raaahhh...
I don’t get it
There's something especially weird about the bodyshaming men gets. It feels almost....systematic? Let me explain...
Society will both make fun of men who it deems "lesser", but it will also make fun of any man who tries to compensate for it. Like, if a short guy works out, he has "Napoleon Syndrome".
Its a real Catch 22. Its like the people doing this want a specific group of men they can put lower on the societal totem pole. And if those men climb up, they won't have a valid target to bully anymore.
This is just toxic masculinity as a whole. If a man has a trait that can be exploited as “undesirable” they are deemed lesser, but the entire point is that it isn’t logical, and it shouldn’t have to be illogical to be wrong. If it “made perfect sense” to be racist or bigoted that doesn’t make that thing right or morally just.
Also, this phenomena is not gender specific, for example: women who have pronounced facial features are “butter faced” but if they receive cosmetic surgery to de-emphasize those areas of their face, they are both attention-seeking and also “fake”.
Ultimately this does stem from the fact that hierarchical structures found in the patriarchy and capitalism innately require someone to be forced lower on that hierarchy, and when you can’t justify someone’s lower position based off of a “logical” reason to keep them down, you make up an illogical reason.
I'm tired, boss...
And it's always the fat ones (which you can control) criticizing someone's length (which they can't)
Get better material, like my freakishly long proportions and lack of an ass
“No you see they’re perpetuating the toxic image of genitalia determining your self worth so me perpetuating it is merely putting them on their own standards despite the fact I don’t make it clear this is still wrong anyways”.
you got too intellectual cuz i agree tho
"Body Positivity" mfs when they see a heavily burn-scarred and mutilated child that almost died in a housefire
Bonus points if they crack the most diabolical jokes about em
"I ordered crispy, not burnt!" is something I saw on some YouTube video before. Some people are genuinely disturbing
I feel like people that make jokes like that aren’t the same as people who call themselves body positive
My comment was moreso a response to the "diabolical jokes" portion of the comment I was responding to.
and then they say "it's time to let him go" like he isn't a sentient being who deserves to live a full life (i hate tiktok comments)
Yeah, I try to avoid comments on short form stuff cause it’s like- all stuff like that… especially on reels…
Body positivity mfs when i hit them with the spell that makes them show their tongue when they move their head:
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The tongue spells have been forbidden by the council since the Grahn's Treaty!
I think you talk to much for someone you a very movable head and showable tongue
Then who tf casted it on me!!
What is this?
looks like paimon from genshin impact in vr chat
Actually OP, body positivity is only for fat chicks.
but the hourglass fat, not any other.
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Or dangerously obese, there’s a crazy rabbit hole about it. If people try to lose weight, esp those who are morbidly obese and want to improve their health, they will be shamed and insulted by other people their size. It’s an insecurity and control thing, I think.
Bucket of crabs
Exactly
Shiho pfp!
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IME queer groups can be really vicious about baldness.
My male-pattern baldness is a source of significant insecurity for me, but it's an "acceptable target" because of its association with masculinity. I'm caught in the crossfire even though I am not a man. Not that it should matter. Men deserve to have their bodies respected, too.
It's unpleasant.
As a fat chick who has gotten into many arguments about this, can confirm. Shit is disappointing.
I've literally mentioned thinking someone is good looking to OTHER FAT GIRLS and they almost always have something negative to say, whether it's about the good looking person's height, or natural physique/propositions, or whatever. Like dude... what??
My wife is heavy set herself due to hormonal disorders and medicine she used to take. However, since she changed meds and began eating better, she's been losing about 1.5 lbs a week.
I'm proud of her yet still ensure to call her beautiful 🥺
To your point, maybe it is just envy of some sort?
Well, I hope however her body changes, she is happy with herself through it all. <3
And that's good!
Yeah, definitely. Stuff like that is always a projection of one insecurity or another, fr. Hell, even I've noticed that I've grown my confident with myself I've become much less critical of others.
Side note but related: Bodies have a tendency to change and go through phases no matter what the reason or the change, and I think people seek way too much comfort in clinging to one specific thing, which is why body positivity, specifically with fat people, is so enticing - because it's something you can rely on never changing if you don't actively chose to change it. You can decide you like being fat, and not have to worry about it being taken away from you. Even people with disabilities or conditions that cause weight gain (in my experience!!) will all tell you that body NEUTRALITY is much more important because you never know what time will do to ya. But also neutralizing your view on your own body really does help with your opinion on shit like this as a whole, imo. Letting go of labels and predisposition towards any and all "types" allows you to appreciate things without some fickle social structure fucking with your perception or opinions.
Bro might just be Biscuit Oliva from Baki
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You are baldy head
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Body positivity when a fat dude wants to join in
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Body positivity mfs when the short, bald, chubby guy with a silly nose disagrees with them
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Mewlander
Moglander.
Homogger.
charlie smiling friends
When height in males✌️😭
I'm personally 2 males tall
I’m one of me tall
I’m 13 me’s tall personally
guys will talk about how judging by height is stupid and the same guys will make short jokes about you when youre short
If it's made by a stranger, it's a dick move. If it's made by your friends, it's some of the best banter, especially if you can bounce off of them well.
Source: I was the short friend. All my friends were basketball player lookin' ass mfs
the only winning move at that point is to dwarfmaxx
“Body positivity” mfs when they say a girl is too thin and needs a sandwich
Ooh, my parents keep telling me this! And it is SOOO annoying, like they keep telling me I’m “too thin” and “need to eat more” but like, I’m not even skinny?! I have a muffin top and yet they STILL call me skinny?! It’s so annoying
Body positivity people when you're cross-eyed or physically disabled
Heyyy, I have a lazy eye! I adopted googly eyes as a defining feature because of it.
Haha, that's cute!
Body positivity people when discussing overweight or short men:
Remember kids, only make fun of permanent physical features no-one has any control over!
People who bodyshame probably have micropenises
look at you, you look so superficial you probably judge things by their physical appearance
Oh yeah? Yo mom so shallow, she probably thinks this quip is about her
You're about as deep as a bowl of soup, and your wit is as sharp as a soup spoon.
Hey buddy, say what you want about me, but lay off the soup.
If you love soup so much, then why don't you marry soup?
Because I am already married to justice
Yeah, only a blind girl would marry you
i know every thing you’re gonna
Carly Simon, is that you?
You used the bodyshaming to destroy the bodyshaming, welcome back Thanos
What if, no peen?
Micropenis energy
Im a top so its only a cute bonus for me 🤷♀️
like everything in society, people only care when it is convenient to them and only talk shit when it is just as convenient as well.
These people will see a short guy and won’t be able to hold the laughter back
"body positivity" mfs when I throw brick at their head
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Double standards
Hey wait you’re the guy that was going insane in that lowtiergod post
Yes, that's me
I've been bullied for not being conveniently attractive by other people who also aren't. But suddenly i'm body shaming when i point out they're also not conveniently attractive.
so many goomba fallacies in these comments you'd think we were in the mushroom kingdom
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Damn, reverse goomba fallacy
Koopa fallacy
I also used to think this was a goomba fallacy thing until I met multiple people in real life who claimed to support body positivity while still making fun of men for being bald or short.
Body positivity girls when your dick isn't at least 5 inches
5 inches is being really gêneros,the truth is 7 inches and up
ehhh not really you just wont get your dick lusted over if its not 7 or more, below 5 is when insults start coming in.
"Body positivity" mfs when you want to survive in your body longer by eating your veggies
"Body positive" mfs when some fat people decided to care about their healthcare instead of creating the new culture as a excuse:
I don't know what you think body positivity is, but I have never interacted with anyone who was upset at someone for losing weight.
One of the main points of body positivity is that shaming people for being overweight doesn't help them lose weight. So I don't see why they'd be upset about that, unless there's more context i'm missing here.
Araiki's comment may be about a situation when someone takes any remarks about their or anyone's weight as shaming and uses body positivity as an excuse to not change for whatever reason. I may be wrong though.
Exatly. These people ruined the real concept of body positive.
I have seen literally dozens of people be insulted for choosing to look healthy and lean instead of being ok overweight. Also body positivity is accepting people are overweight, but it isn’t pretending they aren’t unhealthy. Ideally someone should be ok with the way that they look, and if they aren’t they should work to change that. They shouldn’t be convinced to stay complacent.
I see, I stand corrected. That's really stupid then lol
I definitely agree with the spirit of what you're saying. But I do need to mention as someone who used to be severely underweight, sometimes people are unhappy due to unrealistic standards instead of actually being too heavy.
But yeah people should definitely try to reach healthy weights. There are so many benefits that go beyond looks.
Absolutely. Being underweight and overweight are both unhealthy, and they can be issues. But I agree that change is something that should be spurred by one’s own desires and not because they’re bullied into it, and one should make sure the pendulum doesn’t swing to far in the other direction.
Nope, they’re talking about overweight people shaming other overweight people for losing weight, a popular example would be when Adele was shamed for losing weight bc so many overweight girls looked up to her.
"Body positivity" MFs the second a man has a weak chin:
"Body positivity" when the person isn't hot to them
Originally it's was about injuries you couldn't do anything about like war scars and similar, but then lazy people who started use it as excuse to do nothing joined in.
“Body positivity” people when they disagree with a man shorter than 6,0 (all my fellow short homies are just fun sized dw)
as a woman I could NOT care about height. I'm 5'1". EVERYONE is taller than me. actually, if someone's over 6' they're too tall for me because then I can't pet their hair while standing 😔
Dude honestly i hope my comment didnt come off all sad about height cause im short but im chill with it, my comment does go both ways where guys that complain about being single cause short are just using an excuse. But yeah im only like 5,7 so i’d say im perfectly in the middle, as long as you are personable enough you can catch the eye of shorter and taller people. Also that last sentence might be real.
nah man you're totally cool. a lot of people just assume all women want tall guys only... then they just forget about the people who are intimidatingly small lol. id only want to be shorter than my partner, but I'm not exactly breaking out a measuring stick. 5'7" is perfectly fine and average, I see a ton of guys with girlfriends of that height 👍
that said... tall women are really hot
Very true, i dated a girl that was 6,2 once and i felt both terrified and attracted at the same time. For all the short guys out there (at least in my experience) tall girls tend to like short guys (or girls) so both metaphorically and literally, shoot for the moon.
if only it was that easy. being ace with a chronic illness makes me... incompatible with a lot of people. would need a dang unicorn to put up with me hah. best of luck to your endeavors though 🫡
When you dare to suggest not to make fun of a guy for balding (which is literally just genetics)
Y'know what? I've been holding this in long enough. I don't care if this gets nuked, I need to say it. All of these performative positivity cunts are the biggest hypocrites imaginable.
"mental health awareness" until it's a systemic malignant narcissist using their ego to put people down, then they're empowering, inspirational, "literally me", or entertaining somehow. I won't even mention the lolcow shit or the glorification of isolationist selfishness (sorry, "independence").
NIMBY but "we need a strong community."
"body positivity" until it's a dwarf, a paraplegic, a burn victim, or even just a dude with a small dick, then they're just funny or a punching bag. Don't even mention bald or short people. Fat people sometimes can be the most back-handely catty assholes about other people "getting fat" and it's ridiculous. Ask my sister how she knows.
"Stop saying 'retarded'!" but the second someone's autistic or has ADHD, they treat that person like a fucking golden retriever, a baby who can't comprehend right or wrong, or like patient zero for a zombie virus. Ask me how I know.
"Stop generalizing about groups of people!" then proceeds to profile people they don't like, or use the same strategies/talking points of corrupt bigots to get their points across (see: "if men aren't all evil, then why do they feel the need to say 'not all men' when we say 'all men are evil'?", which is three steps removed from a privileged white person saying "if these black people did nothing wrong, then why were they running from a cop?", just, in the context of internet discourse around the crimes against women)
Hell, there's people who genuinely think we shouldn't be angry about multi-millionaires and billionaires existing (or get uncomfortable when you talk about that) because they genuinely think they'll be the next one, and then they'll go and wax fucking poetry about the evils of capitalism and classism in America on socials for likes and validation, or in a conversation right in fucking front of you to someone else for that same purpose. (again, ask me how I know)
It all fucking sucks because nobody ever actually fucking works to deconstruct the issues they're supposedly against, they just like circlejerking in their stupid godforsaken self-assured echo chambers and feeding their egos. They like the attention they get from posting trendy phrases and tut-tutting those they feel either aren't good enough or are patently below them. Whatever puts them up top and the undesirables below will be what they do until they either get bored or die. It's the worst when they're single and are supposedly super liberal or "woke" or whatever it'll be called next, but then they get married and turn into the biggest fucking institutional, square opp you've ever seen in your life.
And thus, we're trapped in this stupid ouroboros of finger-pointing and infighting, while performative toxic positivity people keep trying to micromanage every thing imaginable while soapboxing, and the demons in power keep stealing our money, attention, freedoms, neighbors and souls to get just a little more money and power before dying a quiet, cushy death. It's so fucking tiring. I'm tired. I don't even know how we can change from this cycle, because like three trillion-dollar entities have a vested interest in keeping us stuck like this (well, I do have one idea, but I can't say it), and a seemingly overwhelming majority of people seem content with being a product and nothing more, or conditioned into actually liking this dogmatic nightmare.
"positivity" mfs when literally anything is mildly out of their comfort zone
Redittors when the opportunity to make fun of fat people
(it's like r/fatpeoplehate is still here)
reddit users making fun of fat people is prime "pot calling the kettle black"
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That is a fair point tbh, there are some very stupid people in this world. I'm all for body positivity of all kinds, not just weight. These people really give us body positivity supporters a bad name. Have a nice day man :)
Y’all got goomba fallacy?
Nah but we got koopa fallacy
What would bullet bill fallacy look like
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This entire comments section is full of so many goomba fallacies it makes right wing grifters seem ideologically consistent
Maybe I’m too problem-solvery but literally any time I think about overweight body positivity all I can think of is people actively ignoring a healthier life.
Like I would HATE to be surrounded by people who tell me I’m beautiful the way I am cause that’s just willingly ignoring something that IS a problem.
Im the opposite
IME queer groups can be really vicious about baldness.
My male-pattern baldness is a source of significant insecurity for me, but it's an "acceptable target" because of its association with masculinity. I'm caught in the crossfire even though I am not a man.
Body Positivity is only for healthy and beautiful I tell you. Slightly overweight - go to gym, has too many moles - get rid of them, has high gums - don't smile, eczema - you have leprosy, too short - ew, too tall - ew, not buff - he is a wimp, buff a little bit - she is a hulk, and so on and so on, fat people DO NOT get positivity at all, I tell you, not from the internet.
The only "body positivity" definition I stand by - just don't give comments about someone's body if it is not necessary, and just be decent to people no matter their appearance? Commenting is rude, I thought most people were raised the same way?
body neutrality ftw
"Body positivity" is just an excuse to be fat without feeling guilty about it.
Ok so ive heard about body neutrality which i took as "hell yeah its ok to hate your body don't let yourself fall victim to toxic positivity" turns out it's repackaged body positivity and im so fucking mad
I'm more empathetic towards someone with something like acne scars than I am towards someone who suffers from food tastes good syndrome
As someone with food tastes good syndrome, I'm right there with you. Weight is one of the few things about ourselves we can control.
(Hence why I weightlift and use my treadmill, because then I can feel like I'm rewarding myself for putting the work in ❤️)
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At the end of the day you can still control the energy that goes into you, because the energy out varies. It’s not like thermodynamics stops working because your body uses less energy, it’s just another parameter you need to adjust for. Gyms aren’t necessary since you can do bodyweight exercises which are still very modifiable to suit the needs of the user. And I somehow manage to eat healthy on a decently small budget despite being in a food desert and having disordered eating, so it’s definitely possible.
It's unfortunate that basic dietary needs aren't considered a right in America. French fries are a buck, an apple is 3 bucks.
I live in Bumfuck Nowhere Kansas and I don't think there's a gym within less than two hours away from me.
You don’t need a gym to do bodyweight exercises
Not everyone can control their weight though.
I eat one wrong food and I’m losing weight because I’m disgustingly sick for weeks and my body will not absorb the vitamins and nutrients I need because my immune system thinks my stomach is under attack.
Some people struggle to lose weight for things like mobility issues that make it hard to exercise. You can eat healthy all day but I’m sure some people just don’t have the metabolism to back it up when they can’t be super active on their own.
Not to mention the actual grasp eating disorders can have on someone’s mental health. You can’t just decide to stop being mentally ill overnight and decide you’re done binge eating or purging, it takes a lot of work, medicine, and self reflection to realize there’s a problem.
But those are outliers. The average person CAN control their weight.
You can't control your height, your skin color, your schlong size (surgeries do not count). If there is one thing you cannot beat, it's the laws of thermodynamics. Energy in, energy out.
yeah, that's why I eat more than dubble of what I should yet I'm still underweight <3
Damn bro. Fast metabolism?
No fucking clue, either that or tapeworms
"Body positivity" mfs when a man bald. Or god forbid, a woman bald
Like mental illnes, its only worth protecting when its fetishizable or quirky, or arguing for your own rights makes me feel better with myself