“Ethical use of AI” doesn't exist. It still uses up fresh water and drives up utility costs near AI farms. Not to mention the amount of carbon pollution it causes. It also causes an insane amount of e-waste as well.
That’s analytical ai, which is entirely different from generative ai. Analytical ai is fine when people don’t use it to accuse people of being criminals or w/e
Oh yeah for some reason I thought Cancer and Disaster prediction AI's were using the same tech as the modern generative ai's. If thats false then there is 0 ethical use for generative AI
Yeah stuff like that isn't even "AI" per se. It's just algorithms that were used for years before the buzzword "AI" started being slapped on every large algorithm imaginable
Large language models are not AI, they do not think, they do not understand what they are saying or what you are feeding them
Imagine generation models are not AI, they aren't creative, they Frankenstein together different images that were stolen
And neither are early cancer prediction nor disaster prediction algorithms, however those aren't being called AI nearly as much as the previous two, despite being not only more marvelous than LLM or image generators could ever be, but they're also used for actual human progress
I don't know why everyone seemingly decided to redefine the word AI recently and retroactively declassify everything as AI. Gen AI is AI. So is image detection, simpler forms of text prediction, various predictive models we use in healthcare, etc. It's always been called AI. This is not new. The classes I took for my AI minor in college, before any Gen AI models, were focused on Maching Learning and Computer Vision, among other topics.
Gen AI also doesn't actually "steal" what it was trained on. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of how these models work and also plainly obvious based on the fact it is trivial to generate new images that never appeared in its training set. That's also just not how the math works. I don't even support the use of image generation for the most part. It's being used as a tool by the capitalist class to stop paying real artists. It uses an excessive amount of energy in a time when we deperately need to cut energy usage. It also just sucks for the most part. The quality of output is poor and generally uninteresting. These models have also contributed to misinformation and generally made the internet nearly unusable. However the points you've described are just largely wrong.
Yeah i think there needs to be a distiction about artificial generation of images and sounds and what is basically a program that detects finds we need to know
IK that a lot of the thread is against generative AI, though I think things like LLMs could still have uses (when locally hosted) for things like better semantic searching through files and or making data easier to interact with. Then again graphs do exist, it’s just an option that’s there tho. Overall all tho things like image gen don’t do much.
What water am I using if I'm generating in local?
You truly believe all AI is used by Google and open AI and local generation doesn't exist or that is somehow much less intensive than gaming?
Well, there is the energy used for training. However, I'd say that the major problems with AI nowadays are:
Energy usage
Building data centers on places with little water, creating scarcity in that area. (I know that water usage per query is not that big, but it can be a problem if it's already using scarce water supplies, not to talk about the training water usage)
If a big corpo is not profitting off of that data, then it doesnt matter. Copyright as it is is a fucked concept to begin with. LLMs run locally dont do any harm unless used for deception
In Ancient times, stories could be changed and retold a billion times. Artists built on other artists' works. Sometimes they barely changed anything, and that was fine. Nowadays, they'd receive cease-and-desists.
"Theft is theft" is also what anti-piracy nutjobs say lol. To call copy-right infringement theft is ridiculous. It is harmful when a more powerful actor uses it to harm less powerful ones, but copyright as we know it should be completely destroyed. It is a ridiculous concept as it is.
And if no one's profitting off of the local LLM? If it's used to do menial everyday tasks or for personal entertainment? Why do you assume a profit has to be made?
You can still be take inspiration and rework it into your own original creations, nothing has changed since 'the ancients' there.
If you're making slop for your own personal viewership, that's not hurting anyone (except yourself, why would you do that). If you're posting it online, or worse trying to sell it, you are taking attention and money that could have gone to the original creators you exploited. That is theft.
Are you serious? As much as I hate Star Wars Theory, I used to watch him when his Vader fanfilm came out. They got a copyright strike for a SINGLE instance of a FEW NOTES of the original Vader theme made it into the film. Mr Beast (again, i dont care for him now) got a strike when they literrally just sang, without instrumentals, "Living on a Prayer". And this is not YouTube's fault. Tom Scott has a great video about this, "Youtube's copyright system isn't broken - the world's is" or something similar.
Oh, did I mention that a fanfilm can't make any profits and must be made using crowd-sourcing? We glossed over that one because nowadays people think that's fucking okay. It isn't. Composers a few centuries ago used to quote long minutes of each others' works without any legal problems. It is COMPLETELY different from now.
LLMs cant even generate images, thats a whole different architecture. Well, the locally available ones cant. Not on consumer hardware.
Local usage is great for one-off Python scripts. Some people use them for single-player roleplaying games. These are completely fine and healthy usages, the users just have to remember its a machine.
There are multiple AI data centers around the country. AI data centers use water from the local city's water supply but also uses freshwater from local rivers. Many AI data centers are owned by Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI
You didn't answer my question at all.
You and many here are believing they'll use Gemini or gpt when local generation is a thing and can be done with consumer GPUs, the amount of disinformation about IA is concerning
No you did not. I asked which water I am using if I'm doing AI on my machine.
I asked if people believe all the AI in the entire world is generated by them and if AI usage in local machines is any worse than gaming
there are even ai exists before gemini and chatgpt even exist or basically consumer ai slop if im talking at your level, wtf are you talking about
there are algorithmic data analysis that usually checks for anomaly, identifying possible or potential danger/solution or maybe predicting possible future trends way before chatgpt was released, those are seen in some industrial space and research labs
“Ethical consumption of beef” doesn't exist. It still uses up fresh water and causes the slaughter of innocent animals. Not to mention the amount of methane pollution it causes. It also causes an insane amount of nitrous oxide pollution from the fertilizers aswell.
How is this at all different? It is a nonessential, capitalistic driven industry, WORSE than ai, that ACTUALLY pollutes in horrible amounts, much more than compared to AI.
If you’re going to criticize AI for unavoidable electricity-linked water usage, you’re being inconsistent unless you criticize gaming, computers, and other industries that also use water indirectly.
Keep moshing that reductio ad absurdum argument buddy.
It wouldn’t be a proper AI discussion without the top comment being exaggerated statements about its environmental influence thank you for fixing it 💪💪
You know the muh water argument actually weakens your point right? Water usage by AI industries is a rounding error compared to a lot of similar industries.
There are plenty of better reasons to be critical of AI without regurgitating misleading shit
Personally the thing I think we should be hating on more is crypto. At least AI delivers utility, crypto mining just racks up pollution for pointless calculations
I’m aware AI has problems, but this argument is stupid. Basically everything humans do has an environmental consequence. Might as well say there’s no ethical use of steel.
Your phone causes carbon pollution, dipshit. I hate when people act like they care about the environment just because they dont like AI. Just say you dont like AI, dont try and make up some bullshit reasoning.
As they say, 'there's no ethical consumption under capitalism'. Every single thing you buy or do is going to hurt someone or something in some way. And yes - people should try to cut down on the energy they use to make the environment better, same thing with plastic.
But those things have been so deeply ingrained in our society that you practically can't avoid them - this is not true with AI. Unlike with other technology, if you get rid of all generative AI the only people who'll be hurt in any substantial way are the people who develop that AI.
And there are legitimate reasons to oppose AI - it does hurt the environment, it takes away jobs, makes people dumber, and it does make mental health worse. Of course, this all applies to things like phones and the internet, but generative AI is not as important as those things yet.
"Yet you participate in society, curios!" Ass response. Can no one criticize things that are messed up just because they partake in things that modern society requires them to?
You are too, bud. Everyone consumes food from slave labor, buy shoes and clothes from slave labor, and electronic devices helped made by slave labor. This isn't the gotcha moment you think it is.
Watched like half of it at 2x speed (i am not watching a 24 minute video). The person in the video did not say anything that disproves the point about ai using water. All that i meant in my comment was that phines don't use water.
Yes, its still clean. To be specific, theres two types of water. Municipal water is cleaned and safe to drink, that's the general water in the city, and the water that AI uses for cooling. That municipal water, upon evaporating, returns to the earth because of the ater cycle. The rest of the water is from rivers and the like, which are used by power plants, that recondense water vapor, and spit the water back out to be cleaned.
Red barrels uses AI art in the outlast trials. From what I understand they make their own art and feed it into AI as not ti steal. Idk why they don't jus tmake their own art but the AI art is used in such a small scale. I would say this is the most ethical AI can get.
And even if there weren't any environmental issues...
It'd still be a theft machine (every A.I. model requires millions and sometimes literal billions of images to train, no one can get that much stuff ethically).
It'd still be ladder pulling.
It'd still be making artists lose their jobs.
I mean, sythv technically uses gen ai, but its not like one of those fuck ass data center gen aisle.
Its ran on your computer and only your computer and it used to make the vocal synth sounds better and blend words together better. It still requires a bunch of user in put and tweaking, but its far better than shit like those llms.
Please note, I am staunchly against gen Ai, especially those LLMs and image generators, however, ai is also a buzz word that is thrown around a lot. Technically stuff like autocorrect and video game npcs is Ai. But neither of those use up a shit tone of water and such.
If we go by the current definition and public perception of AI and what it is, which is these LLMs that run off planet killing data centers. Then yes, i 100% agree with you. And I think we should destroy these data centers and put those that build them up on crucifixion.
"still uses up fresh water" it doesn't matter if it's being trained and run locally. all that water usage is because LLM companies are hoarding thousands of graphics cards in warehouses and running them at full power 24/7. It comes from the general usage of those water-cooled graphics cards, not AI specifically
Not to mention you can literally just train one on your own work!! i do that with music, feed a LOCALLY RUN neural network some weird synth patches and out comes garbled mimicry that occasionally sounds cool and alien
Look up "Emotional Spillover Effect" and then also conpair AI usage for these resources to... literally anything else and then please just SYBAU. For the sake of the environment
Can't people just filter salt water into fresh water (btw im talking about the companies doing it not like the random citizens) in the future hopefully all of those problems will be solved
I love how helplessly temporary us humans are, that we even envision a future where we don't learn as a species and just continue to kick the can down the road.
Ethical use of AI? What, did they spend billions developing their own generative AI model without using copyrighted materials they don't have rights to all so they can make a kids TV show adaptation? Yeah. Okay.
So people who don't click the link see the moment talking about it.
"This collaboration marks the first major partnership for Spuree (formerly Cheehoo) and unites Osborne’s storytelling vision with Spuree’s proprietary technology, which includes an ‘ethical AI’-enabled 3D platform which the studio says greatly accelerates the artistic process, while keeping artists in full creative control."
So what we know is that an "'ethical AI-enabled 3D platform" is gonna be used. It's not made clear how the 3D platform uses AI, or what does it being "ethical" mean (if i were to define how to make an AI ethical, it'd be to have it not learn from copyrighted material from unconsenting people, but can't say for the company), but it seems like the actual animation will be at least largely made by humans, and there are apparently artists in control. Also important to note that as far as we know, AI doesn't seem to be writing the script.
Overall, there is reason to be wary, but i think it's too early to dismiss it as AI slop.
The only real way to make it "ethical" would be to basically train the model on illustrations from the books (assuming the same person, who has given the rights to the books, to the Ai company, has the rights to the illustrations) and use those to generate inbetween frames for it to be animated. And that is, if there even are enough illustrations in those books (I don't think I know them, so no idea) to even generate those.
Because the model would be small enough to be run on a singular pc, not an Ai farm and it wouldn't steal anything.
But seeing how it is supposed to look that is deffinietly not happening, so I would doubt any claims of ethicallity in this case.
what the fuck no i refuse to live in a world where AI-generated TV series are a thing
They're becoming a thing. We can only pray they don't take off and everyone refuses to watch them
Oh you just wait until the children that grew up consuming nothing but the sloppiest AI trash straight up refuse anything that's not AI generated.
You're basically already living in it.
Are we fr? Hell no, I don't want my childhood book ruined by goddamn AI
https://preview.redd.it/z8t2pbs1cu6g1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7856cb0c0bebd031d5dd611fdcacb95391183507
If you want to watch an ACTUAL animated adaptions of the books just watch the Magic Tree house JP flim (yes there is one)
“Ethical use of AI” doesn't exist. It still uses up fresh water and drives up utility costs near AI farms. Not to mention the amount of carbon pollution it causes. It also causes an insane amount of e-waste as well.
Early cancer detection
Natural disaster prediction
I think those are the only 2 ethical uses though.
That’s analytical ai, which is entirely different from generative ai. Analytical ai is fine when people don’t use it to accuse people of being criminals or w/e
Ah ok. thanks. I understand now that there truly is no ethical use for Generative clankers.
You seem to not know very much about this topic to begin with though
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Generative AI causes the most harm. AI for use in the early detection of cancer and natural disasters is fine since it's a different type of AI
Oh yeah for some reason I thought Cancer and Disaster prediction AI's were using the same tech as the modern generative ai's. If thats false then there is 0 ethical use for generative AI
Yeah stuff like that isn't even "AI" per se. It's just algorithms that were used for years before the buzzword "AI" started being slapped on every large algorithm imaginable
Large language models are not AI, they do not think, they do not understand what they are saying or what you are feeding them
Imagine generation models are not AI, they aren't creative, they Frankenstein together different images that were stolen
And neither are early cancer prediction nor disaster prediction algorithms, however those aren't being called AI nearly as much as the previous two, despite being not only more marvelous than LLM or image generators could ever be, but they're also used for actual human progress
I don't know why everyone seemingly decided to redefine the word AI recently and retroactively declassify everything as AI. Gen AI is AI. So is image detection, simpler forms of text prediction, various predictive models we use in healthcare, etc. It's always been called AI. This is not new. The classes I took for my AI minor in college, before any Gen AI models, were focused on Maching Learning and Computer Vision, among other topics.
Gen AI also doesn't actually "steal" what it was trained on. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of how these models work and also plainly obvious based on the fact it is trivial to generate new images that never appeared in its training set. That's also just not how the math works. I don't even support the use of image generation for the most part. It's being used as a tool by the capitalist class to stop paying real artists. It uses an excessive amount of energy in a time when we deperately need to cut energy usage. It also just sucks for the most part. The quality of output is poor and generally uninteresting. These models have also contributed to misinformation and generally made the internet nearly unusable. However the points you've described are just largely wrong.
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Who are you referring to?
what i said already?
Im pretty sure the oncologists who used ai then later got much worse at detecting tumours by themselves
Yeah i think there needs to be a distiction about artificial generation of images and sounds and what is basically a program that detects finds we need to know
IK that a lot of the thread is against generative AI, though I think things like LLMs could still have uses (when locally hosted) for things like better semantic searching through files and or making data easier to interact with. Then again graphs do exist, it’s just an option that’s there tho. Overall all tho things like image gen don’t do much.
Or any scientific advancements that are worth the cost.
communicating with whales
What water am I using if I'm generating in local? You truly believe all AI is used by Google and open AI and local generation doesn't exist or that is somehow much less intensive than gaming?
Well, there is the energy used for training. However, I'd say that the major problems with AI nowadays are:
Not all, but id assume most people use the most convenient type of AI, which is OpenAI and Google.
LLMs are all based on mass-scale data and copyright theft. None are ethical.
If a big corpo is not profitting off of that data, then it doesnt matter. Copyright as it is is a fucked concept to begin with. LLMs run locally dont do any harm unless used for deception
It matters if anyone is profiting off of that data. Theft is theft.
In Ancient times, stories could be changed and retold a billion times. Artists built on other artists' works. Sometimes they barely changed anything, and that was fine. Nowadays, they'd receive cease-and-desists.
"Theft is theft" is also what anti-piracy nutjobs say lol. To call copy-right infringement theft is ridiculous. It is harmful when a more powerful actor uses it to harm less powerful ones, but copyright as we know it should be completely destroyed. It is a ridiculous concept as it is.
And if no one's profitting off of the local LLM? If it's used to do menial everyday tasks or for personal entertainment? Why do you assume a profit has to be made?
You can still be take inspiration and rework it into your own original creations, nothing has changed since 'the ancients' there.
If you're making slop for your own personal viewership, that's not hurting anyone (except yourself, why would you do that). If you're posting it online, or worse trying to sell it, you are taking attention and money that could have gone to the original creators you exploited. That is theft.
Are you serious? As much as I hate Star Wars Theory, I used to watch him when his Vader fanfilm came out. They got a copyright strike for a SINGLE instance of a FEW NOTES of the original Vader theme made it into the film. Mr Beast (again, i dont care for him now) got a strike when they literrally just sang, without instrumentals, "Living on a Prayer". And this is not YouTube's fault. Tom Scott has a great video about this, "Youtube's copyright system isn't broken - the world's is" or something similar.
Oh, did I mention that a fanfilm can't make any profits and must be made using crowd-sourcing? We glossed over that one because nowadays people think that's fucking okay. It isn't. Composers a few centuries ago used to quote long minutes of each others' works without any legal problems. It is COMPLETELY different from now.
LLMs cant even generate images, thats a whole different architecture. Well, the locally available ones cant. Not on consumer hardware.
Local usage is great for one-off Python scripts. Some people use them for single-player roleplaying games. These are completely fine and healthy usages, the users just have to remember its a machine.
One is ethical, and its because shes being trained like how you would teach a child. All the rest suck.
There are multiple AI data centers around the country. AI data centers use water from the local city's water supply but also uses freshwater from local rivers. Many AI data centers are owned by Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI
You didn't answer my question at all. You and many here are believing they'll use Gemini or gpt when local generation is a thing and can be done with consumer GPUs, the amount of disinformation about IA is concerning
I already answered your question on what water gen AI uses. I stated where it gets its water from. This includes local generation as well.
No you did not. I asked which water I am using if I'm doing AI on my machine. I asked if people believe all the AI in the entire world is generated by them and if AI usage in local machines is any worse than gaming
there are even ai exists before gemini and chatgpt even exist or basically consumer ai slop if im talking at your level, wtf are you talking about
there are algorithmic data analysis that usually checks for anomaly, identifying possible or potential danger/solution or maybe predicting possible future trends way before chatgpt was released, those are seen in some industrial space and research labs
Keyword is Gen AI
“Ethical consumption of beef” doesn't exist. It still uses up fresh water and causes the slaughter of innocent animals. Not to mention the amount of methane pollution it causes. It also causes an insane amount of nitrous oxide pollution from the fertilizers aswell.
Comparing a nonliving thing to a living thing is insane work
How is this at all different? It is a nonessential, capitalistic driven industry, WORSE than ai, that ACTUALLY pollutes in horrible amounts, much more than compared to AI.
Generating locally causes indirect water usage but the water isn't drawn from municipal water systems. IEEE
If you’re going to criticize AI for unavoidable electricity-linked water usage, you’re being inconsistent unless you criticize gaming, computers, and other industries that also use water indirectly.
Keep moshing that reductio ad absurdum argument buddy.
It wouldn’t be a proper AI discussion without the top comment being exaggerated statements about its environmental influence thank you for fixing it 💪💪
You know the muh water argument actually weakens your point right? Water usage by AI industries is a rounding error compared to a lot of similar industries.
There are plenty of better reasons to be critical of AI without regurgitating misleading shit
Personally the thing I think we should be hating on more is crypto. At least AI delivers utility, crypto mining just racks up pollution for pointless calculations
I’m aware AI has problems, but this argument is stupid. Basically everything humans do has an environmental consequence. Might as well say there’s no ethical use of steel.
Your phone causes carbon pollution, dipshit. I hate when people act like they care about the environment just because they dont like AI. Just say you dont like AI, dont try and make up some bullshit reasoning.
As they say, 'there's no ethical consumption under capitalism'. Every single thing you buy or do is going to hurt someone or something in some way. And yes - people should try to cut down on the energy they use to make the environment better, same thing with plastic.
But those things have been so deeply ingrained in our society that you practically can't avoid them - this is not true with AI. Unlike with other technology, if you get rid of all generative AI the only people who'll be hurt in any substantial way are the people who develop that AI.
And there are legitimate reasons to oppose AI - it does hurt the environment, it takes away jobs, makes people dumber, and it does make mental health worse. Of course, this all applies to things like phones and the internet, but generative AI is not as important as those things yet.
“Dipshit” alright bro. I've been caring about the environment for a long ass time before AI. Here's some sources on how AI is harmful.
MIT News' article on AI and its environmental impact
U.S. Government Accountability Office's article
UNEP's article
UNICEF's article on AI and children
Yale's article about its environmental impacts
And i bet you aren't doing anything about any of it. You still use devices made from child slave labor.
"Yet you participate in society, curios!" Ass response. Can no one criticize things that are messed up just because they partake in things that modern society requires them to?
You are too, bud. Everyone consumes food from slave labor, buy shoes and clothes from slave labor, and electronic devices helped made by slave labor. This isn't the gotcha moment you think it is.
The difference is that I dont pretend to care about the environment online despite doing fuck all about it.
Sure bro. Sure.
Stg everyone who says this sentence verbatim is addicted to the taste of their foot in their mouth
EDIT: To u/EmeraldWorldLP, "bootlicking" and "putting one's foot in one's mouth" are not the same thing
How the fuck is someone being against ai bootlicking?!?!?!
Oh I did not know
But AI still uses clean water, and i am pretty sure phones don't.
https://youtu.be/H_c6MWk7PQc?si=UefYO0eD8-UlNkas
I beg you, watch this video.
Watched like half of it at 2x speed (i am not watching a 24 minute video). The person in the video did not say anything that disproves the point about ai using water. All that i meant in my comment was that phines don't use water.
He actually did. He states that yes, AI evaporates water, but its also condensed back into actual water and put back.
All that i meant was that phones don't use water, also is the water that evaporates and then comes back still clean? Genuine question.
Yes, its still clean. To be specific, theres two types of water. Municipal water is cleaned and safe to drink, that's the general water in the city, and the water that AI uses for cooling. That municipal water, upon evaporating, returns to the earth because of the ater cycle. The rest of the water is from rivers and the like, which are used by power plants, that recondense water vapor, and spit the water back out to be cleaned.
Okay
Phones do use water via their production, same as AI’s main use of water being from production/training, not actual use.
actually, if she is using only clean energy to work, why not
Red barrels uses AI art in the outlast trials. From what I understand they make their own art and feed it into AI as not ti steal. Idk why they don't jus tmake their own art but the AI art is used in such a small scale. I would say this is the most ethical AI can get.
And even if there weren't any environmental issues...
It'd still be a theft machine (every A.I. model requires millions and sometimes literal billions of images to train, no one can get that much stuff ethically).
It'd still be ladder pulling.
It'd still be making artists lose their jobs.
Exactly
It's only good for a reference, like asking it to find a few images
I mean, sythv technically uses gen ai, but its not like one of those fuck ass data center gen aisle.
Its ran on your computer and only your computer and it used to make the vocal synth sounds better and blend words together better. It still requires a bunch of user in put and tweaking, but its far better than shit like those llms.
Please note, I am staunchly against gen Ai, especially those LLMs and image generators, however, ai is also a buzz word that is thrown around a lot. Technically stuff like autocorrect and video game npcs is Ai. But neither of those use up a shit tone of water and such.
If we go by the current definition and public perception of AI and what it is, which is these LLMs that run off planet killing data centers. Then yes, i 100% agree with you. And I think we should destroy these data centers and put those that build them up on crucifixion.
"still uses up fresh water" it doesn't matter if it's being trained and run locally. all that water usage is because LLM companies are hoarding thousands of graphics cards in warehouses and running them at full power 24/7. It comes from the general usage of those water-cooled graphics cards, not AI specifically
Not to mention you can literally just train one on your own work!! i do that with music, feed a LOCALLY RUN neural network some weird synth patches and out comes garbled mimicry that occasionally sounds cool and alien
There's no such thing as ethical consumption. Singling out the environmental impact of AI makes criticisms of AI seem less valid.
Look up "Emotional Spillover Effect" and then also conpair AI usage for these resources to... literally anything else and then please just SYBAU. For the sake of the environment
Can't people just filter salt water into fresh water (btw im talking about the companies doing it not like the random citizens) in the future hopefully all of those problems will be solved
I love how helplessly temporary us humans are, that we even envision a future where we don't learn as a species and just continue to kick the can down the road.
I should also add that Mary Pope Osborne is reportedly on board with the idea.
Why... WHY
Tragic. I fw those books so much as a kid. Had them all.
Based
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NO! NO! I loved this series when I was younger. We want none of this AI bullshit.
this is so sad 😭 my childhood books (and the kids who'll be watching this show) deserve better adaptations
Ethical use of AI? What, did they spend billions developing their own generative AI model without using copyrighted materials they don't have rights to all so they can make a kids TV show adaptation? Yeah. Okay.
So people who don't click the link see the moment talking about it.
So what we know is that an "'ethical AI-enabled 3D platform" is gonna be used. It's not made clear how the 3D platform uses AI, or what does it being "ethical" mean (if i were to define how to make an AI ethical, it'd be to have it not learn from copyrighted material from unconsenting people, but can't say for the company), but it seems like the actual animation will be at least largely made by humans, and there are apparently artists in control. Also important to note that as far as we know, AI doesn't seem to be writing the script.
Overall, there is reason to be wary, but i think it's too early to dismiss it as AI slop.
Note: I am unfamiliar with the original book.
https://i.redd.it/i9nggp07sx6g1.gif
Please say sike right fucking now
Disney+OpenAI would beg to differ, unfortunately
Oh come on man
I don’t even have a reaction image that properly displays my disappointment from this news
The only real way to make it "ethical" would be to basically train the model on illustrations from the books (assuming the same person, who has given the rights to the books, to the Ai company, has the rights to the illustrations) and use those to generate inbetween frames for it to be animated. And that is, if there even are enough illustrations in those books (I don't think I know them, so no idea) to even generate those.
Because the model would be small enough to be run on a singular pc, not an Ai farm and it wouldn't steal anything.
But seeing how it is supposed to look that is deffinietly not happening, so I would doubt any claims of ethicallity in this case.
I just had the biggest spike of joy I have had in the past 3 months, and it’s instantly ruined.
Well I hope it isn't entirely AI generated slop, something like Indiana Jones or something something idk
Ur fucking kidding me, my childhood books that gave nothing but wonder and genuine joy is being made with something so creatively dead….
is this an aardman situation or are they actually using gen ai?
The ethical use of ai is no use of ai.
Generative ai that is.
Ignore it and move on