I wouldn’t. Thread could catch on the hardware, the threads can move easily since the clamps don’t tighten around them. Thrums are lighter, cheaper, easier.
Whats the purpose? Extra security? I have never had properly tied cross & chokes come loose. Now, forgetting to tie them is another issue...
Go slow, enjoy the process. No need for bulky heavy clumsy backup.
Not all "highdea's" are good.. (probably most are not nearly as brilliant as they seem in the moment!) but thanks for the chuckle!
I don't know what I'm looking at. I mean yes its a warping mill with a warp on it and I can see your cross but idk whats up with all the metal stuff or the tons of orange string. Maybe if you explained what you were attempting to do it would help?
I think a lot more could go wrong than go right. Just take some strong thread of a different color and make a bowtie around them, something easy to pull loose. For the very end and for the cross, I like to overlap the tying thread a few times so it's easier to find
I do all of that and hate it for some reason. All that “don’t mess up your cross” when you first start (for good reason) messes with my head sometimes.
Your anxiety has gotten the best of you! Calm down, deep breaths, and remove those metal things. Invest in Jane Stafford’s online weaving classes. Her first season is all about planning, measuring a warp, and getting it on the loom.
I’m actually a very skilled weaver and have taken a couple seasons of hers. I was just getting ahead of myself because the price of silk these days is insane and I’m trying to convince myself I’m not priced out of it.
This just looks like you are making it harder and more annoying for yourself to put the warp onto the loom. Those clamps seem like a nightmare of snagging and tangles waiting to happen.
Also, it looks like you have several ends that didn’t follow the path through your cross (they go straight above the cross). Is that intentional?
Personally, I put one loose but secure tie through the X of the cross, and one choke kind of near each end, unless it’s a short warp (like, 3 yards or less), and then probably just one choke in the middle. Once I transfer the cross to the lease sticks, that tie through the X comes off.
Not intentional. But I was going to add an accent color anyway so now I’ll just do it there and then also use that to measure as I go.
Then I can use that section as a weft accent on one of the others or a warp accent on the last hijab depending on my mood/lazy level.
I hate winding warps and this my first go on a mill. Not my first rodeo though so I have fixes. I just get really worried when I pull it off the mill/board. I hate it and got too high. Dumb.
I'd be concerned that threads could still escape - it'll depend on how perfectly and tightly the tips of the clamp closes. It also looks pretty heavy/will get caught on other stuff when you're moving it.
Plastic ikea chip clips work ok, but I wouldn't want to leave them on their long (they are tight enough to crimp your yarn).
You can tie the 4 "arms" of the x with one longer piece of yarn if you're just trying to avoid cutting and tying a bunch of individual pieces. Or you can get away with tying fewer arms so long as you tie the middle of the x (as you have)
Besides the whole clamp situation (don’t give yourself more stuff to stress about), I would recommend giving yourself a few more inches between the end of the warp and the cross. You’ll have less issues with the yarns trying to creep back through the sley sticks. I always position my cross between the second and third dowels.
It depends on what level of skill you are aiming for. Tying all those choke threads is professional. Not tying them is amateur, even if you dislike it. I understand you being anxious about transferring your warps, but the more you do it, and do it correctly, the easier it becomes, like anything else. That said, experimentation is also appropriate at times. BUT....there is a system for a reason - it works. It saves time and aggravation. So, if you are okay with being amateur in your skills, then go ahead. If you are working toward a professionalism that is respected and recognized - go with the professional method. :-)
Awfully heavy to maneuver with.
I wouldn’t. Thread could catch on the hardware, the threads can move easily since the clamps don’t tighten around them. Thrums are lighter, cheaper, easier.
Whats the purpose? Extra security? I have never had properly tied cross & chokes come loose. Now, forgetting to tie them is another issue... Go slow, enjoy the process. No need for bulky heavy clumsy backup. Not all "highdea's" are good.. (probably most are not nearly as brilliant as they seem in the moment!) but thanks for the chuckle!
I don't know what I'm looking at. I mean yes its a warping mill with a warp on it and I can see your cross but idk whats up with all the metal stuff or the tons of orange string. Maybe if you explained what you were attempting to do it would help?
The orange string is to secure the cross. I thought I could just use the clips instead. Transferring warps makes me anxious.
I think a lot more could go wrong than go right. Just take some strong thread of a different color and make a bowtie around them, something easy to pull loose. For the very end and for the cross, I like to overlap the tying thread a few times so it's easier to find
My initial reaction was, "What is this?". I love new ideas, however for me, this would be a nightmare.
Tie the crosses, use different colors foe the top ties and the bottom. Tie the end loop.
Check out Peggy Osterkamp's info on-line.
Good luck 👍
I do all of that and hate it for some reason. All that “don’t mess up your cross” when you first start (for good reason) messes with my head sometimes.
Your anxiety has gotten the best of you! Calm down, deep breaths, and remove those metal things. Invest in Jane Stafford’s online weaving classes. Her first season is all about planning, measuring a warp, and getting it on the loom.
I’m actually a very skilled weaver and have taken a couple seasons of hers. I was just getting ahead of myself because the price of silk these days is insane and I’m trying to convince myself I’m not priced out of it.
highdea 😂
This just looks like you are making it harder and more annoying for yourself to put the warp onto the loom. Those clamps seem like a nightmare of snagging and tangles waiting to happen.
Also, it looks like you have several ends that didn’t follow the path through your cross (they go straight above the cross). Is that intentional?
Personally, I put one loose but secure tie through the X of the cross, and one choke kind of near each end, unless it’s a short warp (like, 3 yards or less), and then probably just one choke in the middle. Once I transfer the cross to the lease sticks, that tie through the X comes off.
Not intentional. But I was going to add an accent color anyway so now I’ll just do it there and then also use that to measure as I go.
Then I can use that section as a weft accent on one of the others or a warp accent on the last hijab depending on my mood/lazy level.
I hate winding warps and this my first go on a mill. Not my first rodeo though so I have fixes. I just get really worried when I pull it off the mill/board. I hate it and got too high. Dumb.
I'd be concerned that threads could still escape - it'll depend on how perfectly and tightly the tips of the clamp closes. It also looks pretty heavy/will get caught on other stuff when you're moving it.
Plastic ikea chip clips work ok, but I wouldn't want to leave them on their long (they are tight enough to crimp your yarn).
You can tie the 4 "arms" of the x with one longer piece of yarn if you're just trying to avoid cutting and tying a bunch of individual pieces. Or you can get away with tying fewer arms so long as you tie the middle of the x (as you have)
Besides the whole clamp situation (don’t give yourself more stuff to stress about), I would recommend giving yourself a few more inches between the end of the warp and the cross. You’ll have less issues with the yarns trying to creep back through the sley sticks. I always position my cross between the second and third dowels.
That’s the second cross as do btf with two crosses. I throw my other lease sticks well before
I really like using magnetic cable ties if you are looking for something reusable!
Great idea! Thanks!
It depends on what level of skill you are aiming for. Tying all those choke threads is professional. Not tying them is amateur, even if you dislike it. I understand you being anxious about transferring your warps, but the more you do it, and do it correctly, the easier it becomes, like anything else. That said, experimentation is also appropriate at times. BUT....there is a system for a reason - it works. It saves time and aggravation. So, if you are okay with being amateur in your skills, then go ahead. If you are working toward a professionalism that is respected and recognized - go with the professional method. :-)