Don't worry. People will go back to blindly trusting the government to their own harm as soon as the guy in office isn't someone the media is trying to destroy. They won't remember that the corruption of power is pervasive instead of limited to a single person.
People say this a lot, but there needs to be a trigger event for it to become widespread, or a handful of people here and there will turn up and lose their jobs just for nothing to happen. You need to remember that Trump won the popular vote and like it or not, the majority of Americans either are on board with what he is doing or don't care.
We don't live in a small country where it's easy to organize and congregate on a single source of power to enact change. Our government has 50 heads spread across a landmass the size of Europe. Our media also cares more about ragebait than honest reporting, so they will turn against every protest and enable the people in charge to use violence with support of the people that stayed home.
You can absolutely do more. You can organize or join other groups already formed and help in your off time. Trump’s supporters were able to organize for a day well in advance. The truth is you are also willing to trade the rights he’s taking from you for comfort.
We saw him fail completely as president the first time and people still said "let's give him another chance... only this time with zero accountability"
Please know that I debated for a solid two minutes whether or not to post
those people posting on socials the videos of brown folks being arrested and adios'd with the caption "I voted for this" need to put videos up of this video with "I voted for this"
You american citizens are going to have to do it. Not sure why you're all still waiting around for them to have a change of heart. It's not coming, your country is becoming a fascist third-world hellhole and your citizens don't even care. Look at European farmers protesting like crazy today, over something so simple as one single bad foreign trade deal.
A majority of Americans are okay with this. The minority of sane people who actually bothered to vote and try to stop it don't have the power you think we do. The chance to stop it was November 2024, and America failed. A bunch of people in blue states protesting in blue cities doesn't change anything.
What does “mobilize and revolt” even mean? We’ve protested in record numbers, but the federal government is all republican, nothing can change until they are voted out.
At this point, protesting is doing more harm than good. We're just inconveniencing each other, while the people at fault are taking helicopters and jets (referring to street protests) to get around.
The rich don't give a fuck about us, and protests and boycotts are doing nothing. We all know what's needed, but everyone (myself included) is too scared to do it...
No we do not need any form of drastic measures. We are not overthrowing shit or rising up, that’s just not going to happen, and shouldn’t happen unless they actually pull real election bullshit. Which even if we did rise up, it would get quashed immediately. We do have the most powerful police and military force in the world need I remind you.
I don't particularly care about approval ratings. I care about the fact that 40% of Americans didn't vote, along with the 30% who voted for him, thus winning him the election and Republicans the House and Senate. I'm sure some of those non-voting 40% 'disapprove' of him, but that doesn't count for anything; and people who can't be bothered to vote one day every 4 years certainly aren't going to take up arms in glorious revolution as the other poster suggests.
I feel like one of them but I don't buy that. I think this election WAS rigged. In some manner. Too many oddities, people put in positions, and things leading up to it said out loud for there not to have been some tampering.
We will do it, in about one year when the midterm elections happen. But for now we are stuck with what we have, no amount of protesting would change anything currently with republicans in control of all 3 branches.
The problem is 25-30% of the American population supports trump no matter what he does, and another 25% or so are completely politically out of the loop. We’ve had massive protests that I’ve been to (the no kings protests) and it is amazing to see the amount of people willing to speak out and protest. But like I said, nothing will change until the midterms. American politicians don’t step down like other country’s politicians do. I mean, 1-5 step down due to retirement or fear of being primaried, but it never happens en masse.
Exactly… I live in the south, and I worry sometimes that my anti trump social media posts will get me and my family hunted down by white nationalists..
Politicians stepping down likely wouldn't move the needle, anyway. The problems would remain. Our country needs political reform on a grand scale, like making bribery/lobbying illegal and taking money out of the equation.
Until that happens, corporations will continue buying politicians and our system will always favor a corporatocracy model. Getting politicians in there that, in theory, favor a people-first approach would simply get corrupted by the system, otherwise.
If Americans want to really protest this, they should probably ignore the politicians and go straight to the source: business interests that are manipulating the field. The tech industry might be a good place to start.
What America needs/needed is proper reconstruction. Reconstruction after the civil war was ended prematurely, and the collective trauma and fundamental political divide still haunts you to this day.
My brother I’ve been to the no kings protests lol what else do you want me to do? I will vote in every election that I am able to vote in, and attend every anti trump protest I can reach. But that’s practically all I can do without risking losing my job or worse lol
This is some 26 day old account that keeps ignorning when people go “but we literally are protesting” and wants to inspire some fool to commit an assassination.
Eh, we literally had the largest protest in American history earlier this year. Protests are happening constantly around the country even now. Like, what do you expect to happen over night? We have midterm elections coming in 2026 that will likely be dominated by Democrats and non-Maga republicans. Legal teams are gathering mountains of evidence to bring people to court. You can't just do that quickly, you throw away your entire case if you rush to court. Look at what we needed to do to bring down mob bosses. We're dealing with billionaire criminals who can buy up entire lawfirms to defend themselves in court. To bring these people down you need an airtight case to bring against them.
The answer isn't to pull the same shit MAGA idiots did on Jan 6th and break into buildings with zip ties hoping to lynch someone. This isn't the movies.
Nothing is going to happen, doesn't matter what kind of shit will come out. He will stay in WH until the end of this term and likely another one and one more until he dies...
You american citizens are going to have to do it. Not sure why you're all still waiting around for them to have a change of heart. It's not coming, your country is becoming a fascist third-world hellhole and your citizens don't even care. Look at European farmers protesting like crazy today, over something so simple as one single bad foreign trade deal.
There will never be justice, this is shown time and time again. The info comes out, everyone is so shocked and horrified, someone gets charged for some part of it and people decide that's 'justice'. Everyone should shut up about it because the problem it solved!
The charges either get dropped, don't go through or if they do the sentence is minimal. If actual justice is served, it's so rare and the world is surprised.
See: Prince Andrew, Harvey Winestein, Jeffree Epstein, the Pelicot Rape Case...
All these new infos about what exactly happened are already so irrelevant, we all already know that they are digusting shitty people. What we want is that they should be in prison for life.
There will never be proper justice becuase there is always someone who will ask " yeah but why were they there" or like I just read yesterday " most of the girls were adults they could have left. But why didn't the adult women protect the underage girls" there will always be excuses and those screaming fake news at the sky 😞
Yeah, if they even release the files, it is 1,000% guaranteed that they went through and removed every single reference to Trump and any person who has bribed him enough.
”guaranteed that they went through and removed every single reference to Trump”
Which looks even worse to anyone with a few brain cells. Because even if he wasn’t involved in anything shady (which I highly doubt), he’d still be mentioned, as someone who was close friends with Epstein for many years.
And of course zero mentions of him will be praised by MAGA, which reinforces their gullibility….
They released a bunch, but the stuff we are waiting on was being held because of federal laws and the need to protect victims' privacy as well active legal cases that haven't been resolved.
For instance, the Grand jury testimony can only be released if a federal judge signs off on it. A POTUS can't circumvent that to my understanding.
No that is literally not how it works they do not KNOW anything it is just a predictive algorithm that is very good at guessing. Even if it HAPPENS to get some things right it is merely guessing / pattern matching.
There are some LLMs that are designed to do this and similar things extremely well. BERT, for example, is trained in a way that predicts masked content, in a sort of a “fill in the missing word” methodology, as opposed to ChatGPTs autoregressive “predict the next word”methodology.
Either way, even the best predictive model in the world designed for a task like this would not be able to fill in the word trump if every single time he’s mentioned it gets redacted.
I just hope the government has processes in place to preserve the unredacted material even when the president decides he wants it destroyed.
AI can't unredact names because the way it works is by asking "given the text entire internet, what is the most likely word to come next?"
Asking that question is a great way to get a sentence that sounds like it makes sense. It might even by accident be the same word. But when it comes to names, it would be picking based on what's already on the internet, NOT based on anything related to the actual text of original document. So if the AI read a lot of people saying "Trump", then it would pick that name even if the real name were someone else.
I mean, not a fan of them either, but let's not pretend many many dems aren't also. This isn't a political issue, just like COVID. It's just been turned into a political issue to make it a civilian rivalry, rather than a rich/poor - us vs them scenario.
Not like it matters now, MAGA has flat out said they are okay with Trump being a pedo. This is the state of the US: 70+ million Americans fully support a child rapist.
Edit: I'm getting some downvotes on this but not a single MAGAt has responded. Hmm, I wonder why? Is it because they know they are defending a child predator?
He also went along with being called the first jewish president the other day and MAGA was not happy about it. So the kid stuff is fine to them, but blowing bubba and jokingly calling yourself jewish is crossing a line.
Even if he sucked a dick, it wasn't too big. And if it was, anyone in his position would do it, because just look at this thing. Then, remember, it's the land of the free and people can gaggle on whatever they want. Not a big deal, really. Everyone likes a shaft every now and then, ask your mom.
MAGA has flat out said they are okay with Trump being a pedo
Pretty sure they are still insistent that he isn't a pedo. The grifters know that they are telling bald-faced lies. The rank-and-file cultists probably know he is but their cultism has created a convenient cognitive dissonance that allows them to go on with their support as if he wasn't.
My guess it's that this is the exact reason trump let the files out, he's convinced that as condemning as the files might be, he will not face any consequences out of it, and truth be told... I hate to say that I think he's correct.
At some point it's not just the MAGA being okay with it. Americans are okay with it because nobody is doing a god damn thing. The NYC protest is a good start but can't be a one time thing. Complacency is complicity.
Ah yes, the American revolution where the British had bombs and drones....wait....
You can come be the first to get mowed down by trigger happy US police and show us how it's done.
It's like you guys purposefully forget that the police forces in the US are better armed than some militaries. Also, the French have effective protests because they know they won't get murdered by their police. You're comparing apples and oranges.
So you are scared of the police and getting hurt/murdered. That's okay, we all are, it's understandable. But saying there isn't something that can be done is patently false because we have seen that things like these happens and have happened. It's a matter of will power - will you or won't you. Lots of people got arrested and are still being prosecuted in the Hong Kong protests, but they did it anyways and it garnered lots of international spotlight. And the more the spotlight are on the thugs, the less likely they are to act rashly because covering up won't be a cake walk.
But sitting back and saying "there's nothing to be done" is defeatist talk and doesn't achieve anything, and we slowly watch as complacency turns into complicity. How many people got arrested or murdered in the NYC protest?
If you want some sort of justice, you American citizens are going to have to take it. Not sure why you're all still waiting around for them to have a change of heart. It's not coming, your country is becoming a fascist third-world hellhole and your citizens don't even care. Look at European farmers protesting like crazy today, over something so simple as one single bad foreign trade deal.
The fact that you would rather have a party that is fine with the literal rape of children (and still fully supports him) than this vague bullshit you heard on fox news or some facebook post, says a LOT about you.
As long as republicans get to feel like they are hurting democrats (anyone really, they just like to hurt ppl) they don’t care if Satan himself is on the throne
The combination of a) this is not surprising at all, b) the media using terms like "explosive" and "bombshell" etc and c) there will be no tangible consequences because of the only two guys that really matter one is already dead and the other has presidential immunity .... that's super cool, yep, I love our reality
It's not something you and I would find as horrible as this. Its what Trump himself finds most compromising to his ego. Probably had some empathy drug by accident and hugged his son on camera.
This dude been shady since before The Central Park 5!!
and Y'all let it Rock!
ALL THROUGH THE 80S AND 90S WITH THAT TRUMP BALLY'S AND TAJ MAHALL bankruptcies, with Trump Steaks..., Trump University... Just let a Racist, Race!
DUDE HAS BEEN CORRUPT Through the Wall St. years where you let these affluent A holes stew and make Backroom deals! Slice and dice and ruin a city under the guise of progress and a new take on being Real Estate Mogul!
What did y'all think the currency was? Did you not see the Wolf of Wall St. , Trump was adjacent aligned! These guys were doing coke and acting like the Aristocratic Bourgeois , nothing mattered except for status and influence and how to acquire more to become more prominent! To be the King of New York!
You allowed him to talk endlessly on Page 6 of the New York Post (TMZ in paper form, before TMZ was TMZ) for years allowing him instant access, allowing him to catch and kill stories , to up stories that embarassed other socialites and giving yourselves an edge over your competitors.
You fed it, nurtured it, became enslaved by it! The scandals he talked about the socialite world of New York City, you gave him the keys and he left the door wide open to come and go as he pleased and once he became acquaintances with Howard Stern , it was the death knell and once NBC was pitched "The Apprentice " the space in hell was reserved because who is ever going to get rid of a TV Villian who is also victim of incompetent employees ? How can he ever lose?
Then pivot and make it about celebrities whom you revile and Have Trump "Fire" them, how gratifying and feeding the Monster that would one day become our countries President!
It’s so obvious they’ve tried to bury this shit as deep as possible, then when we are getting closer they release some new temporary crisis to take the attention away from the Epstein files
MAGA won't care. Our country is being run by a billionaire pedophile, MAGA wants this for their 1%. Meanwhile, Trump blames democrats because he knows the 99% of his followers will repeat whatever he says, without reason.
So you're telling me Trump kept telling Epstein "No" whenever he would offer Trump girls to fuck. Get the fuck out of here lol what kind of bullshit coverup is this shit?
You're telling me a man who was obsessed with sexual body count, power, and money... and who felt invincible because of daddy's lawyers, didn't say "Yes sir"?
"None have accused Mr. Trump himself of inappropriate behavior." Literally an early quote in this video.
Ok he was at the parties so far what we've learned from this video. And he said 2004 was when he ended his friendship with Epstein. But where is the pedo accusations and proof coming from?
Im not MAGA or a Trumper - but I've got an open mind for the facts, and I'm still waiting on those facts that suggest Trump was a pedo and involved.
It's hilarious watching these "explosive" reports coming out 10 years after Trump's first credible run for office, and after his second term has already started. None of this matters. Stop pretending it matters. Most American voters are perfectly fine with this.
Does anyone else get the feeling that they're slow walking this so that people can get used to the idea of it always being the case and Trump still remain in the white house? So when the real tea comes in on some random Tuesday, people would be whatever? He's already been factually found to be a rapist in the E Jean Carrol case. It doesn't seem to matter.
People can testify that his name is in the heavily redacted section but I get the feeling that this is a massive psy ops on the general public to just accept it. With this bit by bit info, its as if we're getting sized up for a bigger plug of information which when it hits, won't hurt as much.
If Trump manages to survive one big scandal, then this thing will just eventually get buried and forgotten. The gradual reveal keeps the case in the news cycle and makes it harder to ignore.
How can women even stand these guys? You have women supporting Trump. Ivanka, Melania, WTH? How can this be? I mean, how much sex can you have without making a connection with your partner? They are sick men.
Where are our Walter Kronkites? Where are our Edward R Morrows and Woodwards and Bernsteins?
This is the scandal of our lifetime but the best mainstream media can do is one lackadaisical talking head on a sister channel of msnbc instead of around the clock prime time reporting as if no one gives a shit that the sitting president is credibly implicated in being part of a global pedophile sex trafficking ring used by the financial elite?
So Trump may not be a pedophile when it comes to epstine (the comments he's said in public really scream pedophile) but he is likely a sex trafficker... Good to know it could be worse somehow.
Explosive. Shocking. Incredible. Disgusting.
Now do something about it.
…who?
the governme...oh shit.
Govern me daddy. Govern me so hard.
Please know that I debated for a solid two minutes whether or not to post this, and probably chose wrong.
I, for one, applaud your alleged poor decision making. 👍
Nah, you chose correctly.
Definitely up there with the Tread on me harder daddy shirts. So yeah we need a shirt.
Are you referencing something?
Don't worry. People will go back to blindly trusting the government to their own harm as soon as the guy in office isn't someone the media is trying to destroy. They won't remember that the corruption of power is pervasive instead of limited to a single person.
Upvoted this.. it’s been going on forever. Now it’s just cool to hate
https://newrepublic.com/post/204586/mike-johnson-sends-entire-house-home-ahead-epstein-files-deadline
Americans could storm the capitol or something
Why not? It’s not illegal apparently
it's just part of the political discourse :D
Perhaps they should.
We gotta be on some list at this point 😭
Gonna be one eventually at this rate.
I'll take it
What? Guys can't have fun any more?
If you're American, YOU! go on the streets, riot, do not stop until he is no longer in power
People say this a lot, but there needs to be a trigger event for it to become widespread, or a handful of people here and there will turn up and lose their jobs just for nothing to happen. You need to remember that Trump won the popular vote and like it or not, the majority of Americans either are on board with what he is doing or don't care.
We don't live in a small country where it's easy to organize and congregate on a single source of power to enact change. Our government has 50 heads spread across a landmass the size of Europe. Our media also cares more about ragebait than honest reporting, so they will turn against every protest and enable the people in charge to use violence with support of the people that stayed home.
You can absolutely do more. You can organize or join other groups already formed and help in your off time. Trump’s supporters were able to organize for a day well in advance. The truth is you are also willing to trade the rights he’s taking from you for comfort.
Yeah, no. I've got a family to support. I'm not going to risk my baby being homeless for a good cause
Everyone. Spread the idea of a tax-strike. Make a date, Get together, stop these pigs from stealing your money
We elected him President. What more do you want?
Twice!
We heard him saying in his own words on audio recording that he loved assaulting young girls. In 2016. And yet here we are.
AHEM three times, but Sleepy Joe Biden's Autopen stole the election!
You're right. I should've read the plaque
It's all in there. I cant wait for trump to be out of office. Maybe they'll add for him "Twice impeached, best friends with pedophile Epstein..."
We saw him fail completely as president the first time and people still said "let's give him another chance... only this time with zero accountability"
idk from here looks like he was kinda forced on you the second time, just like those girls on the island.
Twice on non consecutive occasions after having a before and after to compare to where he also lost the one in the middle.
those people posting on socials the videos of brown folks being arrested and adios'd with the caption "I voted for this" need to put videos up of this video with "I voted for this"
Who would be the ones to “do something” right now?
You american citizens are going to have to do it. Not sure why you're all still waiting around for them to have a change of heart. It's not coming, your country is becoming a fascist third-world hellhole and your citizens don't even care. Look at European farmers protesting like crazy today, over something so simple as one single bad foreign trade deal.
A majority of Americans are okay with this. The minority of sane people who actually bothered to vote and try to stop it don't have the power you think we do. The chance to stop it was November 2024, and America failed. A bunch of people in blue states protesting in blue cities doesn't change anything.
I'm telling you, there is really no choice. You either mobilize and revolt, or you lose your country.
What does “mobilize and revolt” even mean? We’ve protested in record numbers, but the federal government is all republican, nothing can change until they are voted out.
At this point, protesting is doing more harm than good. We're just inconveniencing each other, while the people at fault are taking helicopters and jets (referring to street protests) to get around.
The rich don't give a fuck about us, and protests and boycotts are doing nothing. We all know what's needed, but everyone (myself included) is too scared to do it...
No we do not need any form of drastic measures. We are not overthrowing shit or rising up, that’s just not going to happen, and shouldn’t happen unless they actually pull real election bullshit. Which even if we did rise up, it would get quashed immediately. We do have the most powerful police and military force in the world need I remind you.
Did... did you just shit upon the First Amendment? WHat is it good for
It’s not a majority, trump has around a 43% approval rating right now, with a 54% disapproval rating. So easily not a majority.
33-34% approval, at best.
I literally checked it before posting the numbers lol it’s at 42.6% approve and 54% disapprove
Honestly, there are 8500 different sources that state different numbers. I've seen 33%, 36%, 39%, 43%. Either way the disapproval is majority.
I check the Nate silver bulletin, for the poll aggregate, nothing can be perfect, but that feels close enough for my math brain to accept
Yeah I'd be more apt to trust 538 too.
I don't particularly care about approval ratings. I care about the fact that 40% of Americans didn't vote, along with the 30% who voted for him, thus winning him the election and Republicans the House and Senate. I'm sure some of those non-voting 40% 'disapprove' of him, but that doesn't count for anything; and people who can't be bothered to vote one day every 4 years certainly aren't going to take up arms in glorious revolution as the other poster suggests.
I feel like one of them but I don't buy that. I think this election WAS rigged. In some manner. Too many oddities, people put in positions, and things leading up to it said out loud for there not to have been some tampering.
Most people still believe that elections matter. The next time we can 'do something' is the midterms.
If they tamper with those, things will get ugly.
People still believe that elections don’t matter somehow
If things must get ugly then, start organizing now.
I agree. We should be setting up support networks to enable a general strike of significant length.
Obvious answer? They don't want to throw away their lives. They don't want to go to lose their jobs. They don't want to end up in jail. Etc.
We will do it, in about one year when the midterm elections happen. But for now we are stuck with what we have, no amount of protesting would change anything currently with republicans in control of all 3 branches.
You guys could really learn from the French.
everyone should learn from the french
The problem is 25-30% of the American population supports trump no matter what he does, and another 25% or so are completely politically out of the loop. We’ve had massive protests that I’ve been to (the no kings protests) and it is amazing to see the amount of people willing to speak out and protest. But like I said, nothing will change until the midterms. American politicians don’t step down like other country’s politicians do. I mean, 1-5 step down due to retirement or fear of being primaried, but it never happens en masse.
Not to mention that the people who support Trump are people who go to bed at night dreaming of scenarios in which they get to gun down liberals.
Exactly… I live in the south, and I worry sometimes that my anti trump social media posts will get me and my family hunted down by white nationalists..
Politicians stepping down likely wouldn't move the needle, anyway. The problems would remain. Our country needs political reform on a grand scale, like making bribery/lobbying illegal and taking money out of the equation.
Until that happens, corporations will continue buying politicians and our system will always favor a corporatocracy model. Getting politicians in there that, in theory, favor a people-first approach would simply get corrupted by the system, otherwise.
If Americans want to really protest this, they should probably ignore the politicians and go straight to the source: business interests that are manipulating the field. The tech industry might be a good place to start.
What America needs/needed is proper reconstruction. Reconstruction after the civil war was ended prematurely, and the collective trauma and fundamental political divide still haunts you to this day.
"We'll do it later, I don't want to do it now."
If you choose inaction, you are complicit. Say goodbye to your country.
My brother I’ve been to the no kings protests lol what else do you want me to do? I will vote in every election that I am able to vote in, and attend every anti trump protest I can reach. But that’s practically all I can do without risking losing my job or worse lol
This is some 26 day old account that keeps ignorning when people go “but we literally are protesting” and wants to inspire some fool to commit an assassination.
exactly, a violent revolution isn't something we take lightly.
Until you dump a bunch of tea into Boston harbor....
Eh, we literally had the largest protest in American history earlier this year. Protests are happening constantly around the country even now. Like, what do you expect to happen over night? We have midterm elections coming in 2026 that will likely be dominated by Democrats and non-Maga republicans. Legal teams are gathering mountains of evidence to bring people to court. You can't just do that quickly, you throw away your entire case if you rush to court. Look at what we needed to do to bring down mob bosses. We're dealing with billionaire criminals who can buy up entire lawfirms to defend themselves in court. To bring these people down you need an airtight case to bring against them.
The answer isn't to pull the same shit MAGA idiots did on Jan 6th and break into buildings with zip ties hoping to lynch someone. This isn't the movies.
Come on and SLAM
MELTDOWN!
Translation:
Nothing is going to happen, doesn't matter what kind of shit will come out. He will stay in WH until the end of this term and likely another one and one more until he dies...
Not with that attitude
That's exactly the kind of attitude they need to keep him in office for a third term.
You american citizens are going to have to do it. Not sure why you're all still waiting around for them to have a change of heart. It's not coming, your country is becoming a fascist third-world hellhole and your citizens don't even care. Look at European farmers protesting like crazy today, over something so simple as one single bad foreign trade deal.
Stop acting like it’s even remotely similar to protest in America.
I agree with explosive, incredible, disgusting. But knowing trump, it isn’t all that shocking.
Expected.
And completely unsurprising
I'm getting 2017 vibes.
We already have enough docs published by the DOJ that we would have done something about it if there was anything recent to do something about.
Trump already did a live interview where he confessed he knew about the girls and kicked Epstein out of his clubs over the situation.
All that can happen now is people make money off moral outrage, like OP is doing with old news calling it new.
Yess let's get all the info out and get justice for these girls!
Info definitely. Justice, I hope so.
There will never be justice, this is shown time and time again. The info comes out, everyone is so shocked and horrified, someone gets charged for some part of it and people decide that's 'justice'. Everyone should shut up about it because the problem it solved!
The charges either get dropped, don't go through or if they do the sentence is minimal. If actual justice is served, it's so rare and the world is surprised.
See: Prince Andrew, Harvey Winestein, Jeffree Epstein, the Pelicot Rape Case...
All these new infos about what exactly happened are already so irrelevant, we all already know that they are digusting shitty people. What we want is that they should be in prison for life.
There will never be proper justice becuase there is always someone who will ask " yeah but why were they there" or like I just read yesterday " most of the girls were adults they could have left. But why didn't the adult women protect the underage girls" there will always be excuses and those screaming fake news at the sky 😞
SCOTUS ruled the president can’t commit crimes so no justice :)
The reporting that should’ve been done in 2015, and still largely hasn’t.
So today still the day of them releasing whatever survived the FBI black marker massacre of the Epstein Files?
Yeah, if they even release the files, it is 1,000% guaranteed that they went through and removed every single reference to Trump and any person who has bribed him enough.
Which looks even worse to anyone with a few brain cells. Because even if he wasn’t involved in anything shady (which I highly doubt), he’d still be mentioned, as someone who was close friends with Epstein for many years.
And of course zero mentions of him will be praised by MAGA, which reinforces their gullibility….
"The Democrats spent years making up all these lies about him, of course the DoJ had to do something. It's a wonder they were able to move this fast"
The problem is, the estate also has their own copies of many of these documents.
If the Dems get their hands on a heavily redacted document that has an estate counterpart, just release both.
Then basically say 'all the other blacked out stuff is probably as bad as this' and let people run with it.
I saw a stack of files early this morning that was just about 13 or 14 pages of solid black boxes. Not a single word was unredacted.
"weird, all of these unredacted names are democrats. What are the odds!"
I am from EU. why Biden didn't release them?
They released a bunch, but the stuff we are waiting on was being held because of federal laws and the need to protect victims' privacy as well active legal cases that haven't been resolved.
For instance, the Grand jury testimony can only be released if a federal judge signs off on it. A POTUS can't circumvent that to my understanding.
It doesn't matter if they did, there are multiple copies of this and any cross reference that doesn't match up will be the bomb.
I'd be interested to see it run through ChatGPT to see if it can accurately un-redeact it.
No it cannot accurately do anything
It might if that's what they used to redact it in the 1st place
No that is literally not how it works they do not KNOW anything it is just a predictive algorithm that is very good at guessing. Even if it HAPPENS to get some things right it is merely guessing / pattern matching.
It was a joke about how incompetent the agents willing to do that task would have to be buddy, calm down
It'S nOt ThAt DeEp!
You don't understand LLMs at all :/
There are some LLMs that are designed to do this and similar things extremely well. BERT, for example, is trained in a way that predicts masked content, in a sort of a “fill in the missing word” methodology, as opposed to ChatGPTs autoregressive “predict the next word”methodology.
Either way, even the best predictive model in the world designed for a task like this would not be able to fill in the word trump if every single time he’s mentioned it gets redacted.
I just hope the government has processes in place to preserve the unredacted material even when the president decides he wants it destroyed.
That's not how anything works.
Now how the fuck could ChatGPT possibly know what the redacted parts are? Jesus Christ
AI can't unredact names because the way it works is by asking "given the text entire internet, what is the most likely word to come next?"
Asking that question is a great way to get a sentence that sounds like it makes sense. It might even by accident be the same word. But when it comes to names, it would be picking based on what's already on the internet, NOT based on anything related to the actual text of original document. So if the AI read a lot of people saying "Trump", then it would pick that name even if the real name were someone else.
Supposedly
Nope, they already stopped the process.
The Democratic leaders that have copies are liable to release them, but they have to upload the documents they do have.
Maga is for pedos
Conservatism as a whole
RightWingSexualPredators
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vTFikAP6MXDCJjWzgMIOvpsT1ji-HwO-rLEvNE8e-cfCGh0YHoZluIG5TEsmwFub7MzIDfh0XgvcWL8/pub
Holly shit. Who compiled this? You?
Not me. Been being passed around. Spread the good word
Now do LeftWingSexualPredators
There’s like 20 or something. Not enough to be statistically relevant.
Sure, get em all. The reason right wing is specified is because there are just such a magnitude more of them.
I mean, not a fan of them either, but let's not pretend many many dems aren't also. This isn't a political issue, just like COVID. It's just been turned into a political issue to make it a civilian rivalry, rather than a rich/poor - us vs them scenario.
Not like it matters now, MAGA has flat out said they are okay with Trump being a pedo. This is the state of the US: 70+ million Americans fully support a child rapist.
Edit: I'm getting some downvotes on this but not a single MAGAt has responded. Hmm, I wonder why? Is it because they know they are defending a child predator?
What's really fucked is how they're absolutely ok with a pedo rapist; but ready to turn on him if he sucked a dick.
That's their line.
Not all the atrocities and countless ways he's harmed innocent people and destroyed the nation.
Nope, the mental image of him sucking Bill Clinton's dick on camera; that's where the disillusionment starts?
He also went along with being called the first jewish president the other day and MAGA was not happy about it. So the kid stuff is fine to them, but blowing bubba and jokingly calling yourself jewish is crossing a line.
I’m so fucking tired
I'd put money on Fuckface having had at least one dick in his mouth.
He hasn't been that flexible for many years, though.
Even if he sucked a dick, it wasn't too big. And if it was, anyone in his position would do it, because just look at this thing. Then, remember, it's the land of the free and people can gaggle on whatever they want. Not a big deal, really. Everyone likes a shaft every now and then, ask your mom.
"Let the leopard rape kids, he and his friends will surely never rape mine"
Pretty sure they are still insistent that he isn't a pedo. The grifters know that they are telling bald-faced lies. The rank-and-file cultists probably know he is but their cultism has created a convenient cognitive dissonance that allows them to go on with their support as if he wasn't.
I have legit seen people say that it's not a big deal because the girls were teenagers. I wish I was kidding.
My guess it's that this is the exact reason trump let the files out, he's convinced that as condemning as the files might be, he will not face any consequences out of it, and truth be told... I hate to say that I think he's correct.
At some point it's not just the MAGA being okay with it. Americans are okay with it because nobody is doing a god damn thing. The NYC protest is a good start but can't be a one time thing. Complacency is complicity.
I'm sorry, what exactly do you think the regular ass American can do about this?
Regular ass American separated themselves from British monarch.
The French Revolution ended one, and their recent protest made a sitting politician step down.
Regular ass people have a lot of power when used collectively in unison. Believing you don't matter is ending the battle before it began.
Ah yes, the American revolution where the British had bombs and drones....wait....
You can come be the first to get mowed down by trigger happy US police and show us how it's done.
It's like you guys purposefully forget that the police forces in the US are better armed than some militaries. Also, the French have effective protests because they know they won't get murdered by their police. You're comparing apples and oranges.
So you are scared of the police and getting hurt/murdered. That's okay, we all are, it's understandable. But saying there isn't something that can be done is patently false because we have seen that things like these happens and have happened. It's a matter of will power - will you or won't you. Lots of people got arrested and are still being prosecuted in the Hong Kong protests, but they did it anyways and it garnered lots of international spotlight. And the more the spotlight are on the thugs, the less likely they are to act rashly because covering up won't be a cake walk.
But sitting back and saying "there's nothing to be done" is defeatist talk and doesn't achieve anything, and we slowly watch as complacency turns into complicity. How many people got arrested or murdered in the NYC protest?
Keep up the good fight.
If you want some sort of justice, you American citizens are going to have to take it. Not sure why you're all still waiting around for them to have a change of heart. It's not coming, your country is becoming a fascist third-world hellhole and your citizens don't even care. Look at European farmers protesting like crazy today, over something so simple as one single bad foreign trade deal.
Republicans love pedophilia, they'll 100% support this behavior, it doesnt matter anymore.
I’ve never seen a Republican take a child to a Pride Parade
Well they can't let kids find supportive friends who would call them out on their abuse, can they?
The fact that you would rather have a party that is fine with the literal rape of children (and still fully supports him) than this vague bullshit you heard on fox news or some facebook post, says a LOT about you.
Where did I say I’d rather have that? Work on your reading comprehension
You would rather children not be taken to a pride parade, then to actually put away a real live pedophile.
Don’t understand the relevance of this.
You have seen Trump be best friends with the world's most infamous child rapist pimp though.
You have no morals.
And there are no Democrats that are friends with him? I never said Trump wasn’t.
Yeah they stick to Child Beauty Pageants, totally nothing wrong with that......
As long as republicans get to feel like they are hurting democrats (anyone really, they just like to hurt ppl) they don’t care if Satan himself is on the throne
The combination of a) this is not surprising at all, b) the media using terms like "explosive" and "bombshell" etc and c) there will be no tangible consequences because of the only two guys that really matter one is already dead and the other has presidential immunity .... that's super cool, yep, I love our reality
The bones are their money, the worms are their dollars
This is horrible news, but I admit this is the only thing I could think of.
Same
Straight to Hell for me
💀💀💀
His lips are moving...
As Horrible as this is I can't even imagine what Putin has on Trump
It's not something you and I would find as horrible as this. Its what Trump himself finds most compromising to his ego. Probably had some empathy drug by accident and hugged his son on camera.
Republicans are going to have a LOT to say about......Biden and Clinton
WHERE Y'ALL BEEN!
like this is new News!
This dude been shady since before The Central Park 5!!
and Y'all let it Rock!
ALL THROUGH THE 80S AND 90S WITH THAT TRUMP BALLY'S AND TAJ MAHALL bankruptcies, with Trump Steaks..., Trump University... Just let a Racist, Race!
DUDE HAS BEEN CORRUPT Through the Wall St. years where you let these affluent A holes stew and make Backroom deals! Slice and dice and ruin a city under the guise of progress and a new take on being Real Estate Mogul!
What did y'all think the currency was? Did you not see the Wolf of Wall St. , Trump was adjacent aligned! These guys were doing coke and acting like the Aristocratic Bourgeois , nothing mattered except for status and influence and how to acquire more to become more prominent! To be the King of New York!
You allowed him to talk endlessly on Page 6 of the New York Post (TMZ in paper form, before TMZ was TMZ) for years allowing him instant access, allowing him to catch and kill stories , to up stories that embarassed other socialites and giving yourselves an edge over your competitors.
You fed it, nurtured it, became enslaved by it! The scandals he talked about the socialite world of New York City, you gave him the keys and he left the door wide open to come and go as he pleased and once he became acquaintances with Howard Stern , it was the death knell and once NBC was pitched "The Apprentice " the space in hell was reserved because who is ever going to get rid of a TV Villian who is also victim of incompetent employees ? How can he ever lose?
Then pivot and make it about celebrities whom you revile and Have Trump "Fire" them, how gratifying and feeding the Monster that would one day become our countries President!
It worked for Ronnie, WHY NOT DONNIE!
He’s been shady since the 60s
The stupidity of this...
It’s so obvious they’ve tried to bury this shit as deep as possible, then when we are getting closer they release some new temporary crisis to take the attention away from the Epstein files
MAGA won't care. Our country is being run by a billionaire pedophile, MAGA wants this for their 1%. Meanwhile, Trump blames democrats because he knows the 99% of his followers will repeat whatever he says, without reason.
Trump wasn't mad at Epstein for taking a girl, he was mad Epstein didn't pay for the girl.
Remember, just about half the US approves of this stuff. Sick.
A third
If 2/3 of the electorate opposed this, then why is he president?
A third was too stupid to vote
"If you're in a room with 10 Nazis and stay silent, there are 11 Nazis in the room"
The people who didn't vote to stop this are just as complicit. So yeah, 2/3 was okay with this or they would've voted to stop it.
Anyone who believes the real truth will ever come out is truly delusional.
They are ok with it, doesn't matter what comes out of it, they will just find anything because he hates people because of their ethnicity.
“We’ve definitely got his this time!” says fat, unshowered, out of breath Redditor for the 17th time this year.
lets be real here. trump swears on his daughters hotness that he never ever met epstein do we think the 🤡 in the offal office would lie?
Damn Trump was ugly af back in the day. Still is but woof….also they are all NAZIs
So you're telling me Trump kept telling Epstein "No" whenever he would offer Trump girls to fuck. Get the fuck out of here lol what kind of bullshit coverup is this shit?
You're telling me a man who was obsessed with sexual body count, power, and money... and who felt invincible because of daddy's lawyers, didn't say "Yes sir"?
Fuck out of here with that bullshit.
This is the guy UFC fans worships.This is the guy dana white worships while having daughters himself.
Ask your UFC loving friend if they love how Dana White is buddy buddy with a pedophile who enables a pedophile trafficker
"None have accused Mr. Trump himself of inappropriate behavior." Literally an early quote in this video.
Ok he was at the parties so far what we've learned from this video. And he said 2004 was when he ended his friendship with Epstein. But where is the pedo accusations and proof coming from?
Im not MAGA or a Trumper - but I've got an open mind for the facts, and I'm still waiting on those facts that suggest Trump was a pedo and involved.
It's hilarious watching these "explosive" reports coming out 10 years after Trump's first credible run for office, and after his second term has already started. None of this matters. Stop pretending it matters. Most American voters are perfectly fine with this.
It’s all for clicks. It really is that simple. Clicks = money.
Does anyone else get the feeling that they're slow walking this so that people can get used to the idea of it always being the case and Trump still remain in the white house? So when the real tea comes in on some random Tuesday, people would be whatever? He's already been factually found to be a rapist in the E Jean Carrol case. It doesn't seem to matter.
People can testify that his name is in the heavily redacted section but I get the feeling that this is a massive psy ops on the general public to just accept it. With this bit by bit info, its as if we're getting sized up for a bigger plug of information which when it hits, won't hurt as much.
You could also claim the opposite:
If Trump manages to survive one big scandal, then this thing will just eventually get buried and forgotten. The gradual reveal keeps the case in the news cycle and makes it harder to ignore.
what's the explosive new detail? MSNBC is just interviewing Epstein survivors like every other mainstream media company over the last 8 years
Now do Epstein and Carney.
Partnership...not bond.
We need the DOJ to investigate Mr Trump!
Young female bodies, more accurately
Okay prosecute & give him life
Republicans love rapists
How can women even stand these guys? You have women supporting Trump. Ivanka, Melania, WTH? How can this be? I mean, how much sex can you have without making a connection with your partner? They are sick men.
money blinds you of all the red flags. Look at diddy. He had all the red flags. Still had women all over him
Another way to characterize Trump and Epstein is "pussy hounds".
Where are our Walter Kronkites? Where are our Edward R Morrows and Woodwards and Bernsteins?
This is the scandal of our lifetime but the best mainstream media can do is one lackadaisical talking head on a sister channel of msnbc instead of around the clock prime time reporting as if no one gives a shit that the sitting president is credibly implicated in being part of a global pedophile sex trafficking ring used by the financial elite?
This country is a fucking joke.
So Trump may not be a pedophile when it comes to epstine (the comments he's said in public really scream pedophile) but he is likely a sex trafficker... Good to know it could be worse somehow.