Which is why it’s so wild that they stumbled into using the real audio of the scene from “Heat”. Thankfully they didn’t go with their original plan of using foley and actually checked out how it sounded first!
That heat gun fight scene is made complete with the guns sounds. They stood out to me as so fucking visceral when I first watched. Without those realistic sounds the scene would be trash.
The audio almost wasn’t. Mann shot the scene how he wanted it, and then they didn’t use the original audio and Mann wasn’t happy with how it sounded. So forced the edits back to original
But there isn’t much chance any scene in this movie is trash. First time De Niro and Pacino are on screen together? Kilmer being so good at cover and reload that our own military shows clips to recruits.
No chance this movie was trash with different audio, but Mann knows his gun scenes
I was listening to the "What Went Wrong" podcast (check it out if you're into movies and/or the details behind the scenes of making movies) about this the other day. They also used full load blanks.
Unfortunately i did not like this period where he really went in on the digital camera look. It works for Collateral, but his other movies after this like Miami Vice, Public Enemies and Black Hat just look bland and ugly at times.
Out of the top of my head, I'd say Miami Vice and Black Hat work very well.
Miami Vice in particular adds an artificial look and extremely desaturatered palette to the ocean. It really puts you into this "fake identities" mood the movie is going for.
Blackhat being focused on hackers kinda works as well. Especially when they show how the bad guys detonate a power plant, iirc.
Public Enemies is the one that doesn't make sense to me, given it's a period piece. But I haven't watched that one since I was a teenager. Maybe the movie's good? I don't remember.
Public Enemies is pretty good from what I remember. I feel like it was pretty hyped up when it came out but I don't know if it matched the hype. Nothing groundbreaking but decent.
Does it work for Collateral? I watched it for the first time this year and the visuals were by far the worst part of the movie. Everything else was great but I couldn’t help but think how much better it would look if it was just shot on film. Especially since the movie is mostly dark scenes.
I mean I would prefer if he shot it like Heat, but I’m okay with Collateral going for this look and capturing the “driving in LA at night” esthetic as a one off experiment. But it seemed like Mann became too comfortable with the look.
It absolutely has the digital camera look if you know what that look is outside of the context of camcorders or smartphone cameras. Ever-present sensor noise (compressed out of Youtube), poor color rendering that desaturates the image, but impressive low light sensitivity.
My dude! What a slice of history we’ve lived through. :D too late to explore the world, too early to explore space, just right to explore Tom Cruise movies on all forms of physical media. At least once we get the neuralink Tom Cruise experience in a few years thanks to the sacrifice of a million rhesus macacques
Shadow on the Sun was my favorite Audioslave song at the time, and I lost my mind when it started playing in the theater. It was like I had willed my perfect movie into existence.
The Last Samurai doesn't get enough love either. It's seen from the outside as "white guy pretending to be a samurai" movie but that's far from the point of the film and his becoming an honorary samurai is a combination of his capture and him trying to escape a past that has left him broken and bitter to the point where he drinks himself nearly to death to forget the horrors he was forced to commit against natives as a soldier in the civil war. The title isn't referring to him either but of the end of an era in Japan, the last of their breed, as Imperial culture and weapons have begun to take over traditional ways. The relationships and bonds of brotherhood created are powerful, and the ending battle scene brings me to tears.
The samurai he ended up staying with were the samurai of the title, its amusing how most will just assume that means the white guy lol. Such a good movie. I still say "this was a good conversation" at times, loved Ken Watanabe in that.
Absolutely, the cast was incredible. Watanabe's character slowly coming around to him was so engaging, you wanted him to prove himself so badly. The overall admiration of the culture and the people was beautifully captured and the cinematography was on point. Great film.
Memes aside, I found the movie really boring. I absolutely did not resonate with clinging to old ways and dying for it. It’s an interesting idea for a movie since the general event really happened, but I don’t think the script elevates the idea enough to make it compelling.
I recently watched the movie because of how often it’s mentioned. Honestly I don’t understand the praise this gets. Yes, Tom is a great actor and does most of the heavy lifting on the screen, but cinematography doesn’t pass the test of time and the plot is an immature taxi driver wet dream and it drags even though the film isn’t that long. I’m ready for my downvotes because apparently Reddit loves this movie, but would love to read your thoughts on what am I missing here.
I'm with you on the plot being mediocre but that's about it. This isn't really a movie that is about plot or dialogue and that was a deal breaker for a lot of people when it came out.
Reddit loves this movie because film nerds love visceral movies, which Michael Mann is known for making. The cinematography in this movie is meant to look raw, not pretty. Most of the effects were practical, the sounds were real, not mixed, etc..
It succeeds with the performances and the feel of the film, less so with the actual plot.
The cinematography in this movie is meant to look raw, not pretty.
I’m not looking for pretty here. It’s been two months since I’ve seen the movie and can’t remember exactly which techniques caught my attention, but the camerawork and shots were heavily influenced by fads that were popular at the time. So in my perception cinematography wasn’t raw but rather cringy.
Professional shooter Jim Zubiena's execution of the Mozambique Drill from the first season of Miami Vice, also produced by Michael Mann, was fantastic too.
Tom Cruise clearly trained A LOT and indeed executes it flawlessly. Say what you will about the guy, he's proven his dedication to his craft time and time again.
This and the shoot & move scene after the bank heist in HEAT have been broken down multiple times by experts. Both are considered top notch examples of expert firearm handling and tactics. Mann REALLY likes his gun play.
Edit: I wasn't sure about it but then I got to the wolf scene and I'm totally sold. It's full of really great little bits. A lot of boring photography but really great pacing and acting.
Spoiler: I think it would have been better if Tom Cruise didn't die at the end. Personally, I don't like it when movies always go for the feel-good ending or the bad guy loses.
In a way though it fits the characters. Throughout the film Vincent (Tom Cruise) mentions needing to adapt more than once and is almost a central theme through the movie.
Max is victorious at the end of the film because he does adapt whereas Vincent doesn’t and tries to use the Mozambique drill against Max despite the metal door in his way. Now I have absolutely no idea if a subway door could stop nine millimetre rounds but Max, rather than trying the same thing, shoots through the glass.
The irony is that Tom Cruise spends the whole movie telling Jamie Foxx that life is short and to take action now, but is surprised when Jamie Foxx actually does it.
Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if Jamie Foxx influenced that decision given how he ruined the ending of Law Abiding Citizen. However in this case it made more sense die to the story Cruise's character gave about a man dying on a subway.
Law Abiding Citizen...another ending that ruined the movie; just my opinion. Loved the plot line and the planning of it all, just didn't like the 'good guy wins' after all the double dealing.
As much as I enjoy this movie, we're talking about Tom Cruise here, his filmography is stacked. I don't think I would quite put it top 5, probably top 10.
Both movies are fucking awesome and Cruise does a really good job in them. I can understand that a book fan might be dissapointed with Tom not looking like Reacher, but imo he’s better overall than the Amazon Prime Reacher. Both actors are really good at the role, but i think some of the negativity about Tom Cruise Jack Reacher portrayal comes from bias people who just dont like Tom in the first place.
it's not a top 5 movie, but it's a top 5 performance.
top 5 performances, in no order: collateral (should have got oscar nomination for supporting actor over foxx), magnolia, born on the 4th of july, rainman, a few good men. honorable mention tropic thunder
but if we're talking best movies, then you have to look at other movies like edge of tomorrow, top gun, etc.
Yeah people keep echoing how this was his one of his greatest movies. It is a great movie but Tom Cruise has only done great movies for the last 2+ decades. There’s too many Tom Cruise great movies for this to be in the top 5
This is one of those cases where the nature of upvotes/downvotes is actually useful so that you can understand how wrong your opinion is.
Also I'm just kidding, it is subjective but clearly people aren't agreeing with you. But I am curious what you'd consider his top 10 are, even if you just named a few in your personal list.
This was my first Mann film, although I'm aware of the incredible fight scene from heat because, like this one, I've seen it on YouTube.
Really quite something with wonderful pacing and a lot of good realistic beats and actually good gun battles. The photography outside of fight scenes absolutely stinks. EVERY single line of dialogue is a head and shoulders shot. The script is fantastic but man did they shoot it in a boring way. I can't help but feel that with more inventive cinematography this movie would be elevated. Still, I liked it a lot. The scene with the wolves crossing the road was genius.
Maybe they were limited by large 35 mm cameras and most of the dialogue happening inside of a car..
Tom Cruise should have won an Oscar. To me its the only movie of his where I see a detailed character and not Tom Cruise. Absolutely phenomenal performance. There is an insane barely controlled sociopathy present in that movie that is haunting.
Thats a great review. He's a good action actor but he always seems to play himself. A break from that sounds awesome. Probably a really good director. I'll check it out!
It's kinda hard to tell, but at about 0:12 you can see a couple of them look at Foxx zip tied to the wheel and nope out of there. They just keep walking.
Right, I saw that, but my point is they're just fucking Gone 40 seconds later when the camera pans back to their direction of travel, and its a long ass alleyway.
I saw this movie when I was about 12 and I always remembered his method of shooting two to the chest, one to the head, every time. It's the main thing that has stuck with me after all these years.
The body shot is easier to hit. The head shot finishes the job once the target is incapacitated. Nobody trains under the assumption that you pull off headshots every time.
In real life you miss. Center of mass is easiest to hit and good for incapacitating. Three shots can be fired very fast as seen here and this technique has an extremely high chance of eliminating a threat.
Efficient, reliable and not much is comparably good for dealing with many threats at once
Something always bothered me in this movie. If you go back and watch the nightclub shootout, when people are shot dust shoots from the wounds. Like normal blood squibs but instead of blood its dust. As if everyone there were mummies.
michael mann does not play around when it comes to realistic gunfire sounds.
Fine I'll watch Heat again
I mean, if ur gonna twist my arm i guess i will too.
It’s like hitting a snare drum deep down in a sewer system.
I'm imagining a sound engineer down there lol
Why does no other team do this?
Which is why it’s so wild that they stumbled into using the real audio of the scene from “Heat”. Thankfully they didn’t go with their original plan of using foley and actually checked out how it sounded first!
That heat gun fight scene is made complete with the guns sounds. They stood out to me as so fucking visceral when I first watched. Without those realistic sounds the scene would be trash.
The scene would not be trash.. what a dumb reddit thing to say. Although I agree the audio adds.
It elevates it so hard from a very good action scene to an iconic scene imo just because of the audio
Yes. It was not trash to begin with..
very good = trash
furiously takes notes
Trash = Very Good
Racoon furiously takes notes
It’s like famously one of the all time best ever shoot out scenes, they gotta be trolling 😂
The audio almost wasn’t. Mann shot the scene how he wanted it, and then they didn’t use the original audio and Mann wasn’t happy with how it sounded. So forced the edits back to original
But there isn’t much chance any scene in this movie is trash. First time De Niro and Pacino are on screen together? Kilmer being so good at cover and reload that our own military shows clips to recruits.
No chance this movie was trash with different audio, but Mann knows his gun scenes
I was listening to the "What Went Wrong" podcast (check it out if you're into movies and/or the details behind the scenes of making movies) about this the other day. They also used full load blanks.
RIP real guns now. Thanks, Baldwin.
Michael Mann directed. I like his style.
Unfortunately i did not like this period where he really went in on the digital camera look. It works for Collateral, but his other movies after this like Miami Vice, Public Enemies and Black Hat just look bland and ugly at times.
Out of the top of my head, I'd say Miami Vice and Black Hat work very well.
Miami Vice in particular adds an artificial look and extremely desaturatered palette to the ocean. It really puts you into this "fake identities" mood the movie is going for.
Blackhat being focused on hackers kinda works as well. Especially when they show how the bad guys detonate a power plant, iirc.
Public Enemies is the one that doesn't make sense to me, given it's a period piece. But I haven't watched that one since I was a teenager. Maybe the movie's good? I don't remember.
Public Enemies is pretty good from what I remember. I feel like it was pretty hyped up when it came out but I don't know if it matched the hype. Nothing groundbreaking but decent.
I love public enemies. It has its share of weaknesses but it's still a great film IMO.
Does it work for Collateral? I watched it for the first time this year and the visuals were by far the worst part of the movie. Everything else was great but I couldn’t help but think how much better it would look if it was just shot on film. Especially since the movie is mostly dark scenes.
I mean I would prefer if he shot it like Heat, but I’m okay with Collateral going for this look and capturing the “driving in LA at night” esthetic as a one off experiment. But it seemed like Mann became too comfortable with the look.
Blackhat straight up looks bad imo
Collateral doesnt have the digital camera look though.
It absolutely has the digital camera look if you know what that look is outside of the context of camcorders or smartphone cameras. Ever-present sensor noise (compressed out of Youtube), poor color rendering that desaturates the image, but impressive low light sensitivity.
The only things I remember about this movie are this scene and Audioslave playing while a coyote or something crosses.
That entire scene could be a music video. Gorgeous.
You don't remember the goddamn nightclub scene?!
Man, I forgot Jamie Foxx was in this movie. I saw it once, on a cruise ship, a thousand years ago.
They didn't have cruise ships thousands of years ago. Busted!
His mistake he must have meant pleasure barge. Caligula was big on those about 2000 years ago.
Well, that's true. But that's not what OP said.
Well, he was probably typing Latin into google translate.
Still, that doesn't explain how he was watching a 2004 film on Caligula's floating sex barge 2000 years ago. How could they get power to the barge?
He was probably lying about that part.
I doubt that.
A Tom Cruise ship?
Careful, they throw folks over board for bad puns.
That Paul Oakenfold track is dope.
JUM BI JU BA GOO! JUM BI JU BA GOO! *Tom Cruise shoves through chicks grinding*
I was 17 when I saw that movie and that song got limewired and burnt onto my first ever mix CD.
Are you me?
My dude! What a slice of history we’ve lived through. :D too late to explore the world, too early to explore space, just right to explore Tom Cruise movies on all forms of physical media. At least once we get the neuralink Tom Cruise experience in a few years thanks to the sacrifice of a million rhesus macacques
You load up that tom cruise braindance for the first time and it's nothing but you running from your gay thoughts.
Shadow on the Sun was my favorite Audioslave song at the time, and I lost my mind when it started playing in the theater. It was like I had willed my perfect movie into existence.
What about their blatant rip off of Goin' Out West by Tom Waits being uncredited?
finally, a gun that sounds like a gun
One of Ton Cruise best movies-
You have seen the clip, now watch the whole film
Ton Crooz
short ton crooz
Ton Kurtz
Anton Kruz
I remember watching this when it came out. I didn't have high expectations, but I was blown away. Definitely one of Cruise's best movies.
The Last Samurai doesn't get enough love either. It's seen from the outside as "white guy pretending to be a samurai" movie but that's far from the point of the film and his becoming an honorary samurai is a combination of his capture and him trying to escape a past that has left him broken and bitter to the point where he drinks himself nearly to death to forget the horrors he was forced to commit against natives as a soldier in the civil war. The title isn't referring to him either but of the end of an era in Japan, the last of their breed, as Imperial culture and weapons have begun to take over traditional ways. The relationships and bonds of brotherhood created are powerful, and the ending battle scene brings me to tears.
The samurai he ended up staying with were the samurai of the title, its amusing how most will just assume that means the white guy lol. Such a good movie. I still say "this was a good conversation" at times, loved Ken Watanabe in that.
Absolutely, the cast was incredible. Watanabe's character slowly coming around to him was so engaging, you wanted him to prove himself so badly. The overall admiration of the culture and the people was beautifully captured and the cinematography was on point. Great film.
The sparring scene where the others are betting on each session. A+.
Yes! So good.
He also represents the audience
Memes aside, I found the movie really boring. I absolutely did not resonate with clinging to old ways and dying for it. It’s an interesting idea for a movie since the general event really happened, but I don’t think the script elevates the idea enough to make it compelling.
"STAY OUT OF THE TON BRO. BAD SHIT GOIN DOWN''
vintage reference
spoiler alert:
BAM BAM! … BAM BAM, BAM! … (picks up briefcase) BAM!
I recently watched the movie because of how often it’s mentioned. Honestly I don’t understand the praise this gets. Yes, Tom is a great actor and does most of the heavy lifting on the screen, but cinematography doesn’t pass the test of time and the plot is an immature taxi driver wet dream and it drags even though the film isn’t that long. I’m ready for my downvotes because apparently Reddit loves this movie, but would love to read your thoughts on what am I missing here.
I have it blu-ray and I used to have it on dvd, so it must be good!
It is very well-cast - every role
The American dream of the taxi driver doing well was believable at the time, and resonated
I'm with you on the plot being mediocre but that's about it. This isn't really a movie that is about plot or dialogue and that was a deal breaker for a lot of people when it came out.
Reddit loves this movie because film nerds love visceral movies, which Michael Mann is known for making. The cinematography in this movie is meant to look raw, not pretty. Most of the effects were practical, the sounds were real, not mixed, etc..
It succeeds with the performances and the feel of the film, less so with the actual plot.
I’m not looking for pretty here. It’s been two months since I’ve seen the movie and can’t remember exactly which techniques caught my attention, but the camerawork and shots were heavily influenced by fads that were popular at the time. So in my perception cinematography wasn’t raw but rather cringy.
Isn't that a hindsight perspective then?
I’ve heard that this scene is usually held in high regard by shooting professionals for how to properly handle a firearm in this situation.
It's a perfect execution of draw and fire and Mozambique drill.
Professional shooter Jim Zubiena's execution of the Mozambique Drill from the first season of Miami Vice, also produced by Michael Mann, was fantastic too.
https://youtu.be/fXv8IepBVJQ?si=psxqlSa2s_9FY90l
When Aragorn kicks the shield
Came here looking for both of these comments.
Tom Cruise clearly trained A LOT and indeed executes it flawlessly. Say what you will about the guy, he's proven his dedication to his craft time and time again.
This and the shoot & move scene after the bank heist in HEAT have been broken down multiple times by experts. Both are considered top notch examples of expert firearm handling and tactics. Mann REALLY likes his gun play.
Is this movie good?
Edit: I wasn't sure about it but then I got to the wolf scene and I'm totally sold. It's full of really great little bits. A lot of boring photography but really great pacing and acting.
I think it's one of his best.
Spoiler: I think it would have been better if Tom Cruise didn't die at the end. Personally, I don't like it when movies always go for the feel-good ending or the bad guy loses.
In a way though it fits the characters. Throughout the film Vincent (Tom Cruise) mentions needing to adapt more than once and is almost a central theme through the movie.
Max is victorious at the end of the film because he does adapt whereas Vincent doesn’t and tries to use the Mozambique drill against Max despite the metal door in his way. Now I have absolutely no idea if a subway door could stop nine millimetre rounds but Max, rather than trying the same thing, shoots through the glass.
Couldn’t agree more. Everything up until the cab crash is great then I don’t get the direction it went.
The irony is that Tom Cruise spends the whole movie telling Jamie Foxx that life is short and to take action now, but is surprised when Jamie Foxx actually does it.
Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if Jamie Foxx influenced that decision given how he ruined the ending of Law Abiding Citizen. However in this case it made more sense die to the story Cruise's character gave about a man dying on a subway.
Law Abiding Citizen...another ending that ruined the movie; just my opinion. Loved the plot line and the planning of it all, just didn't like the 'good guy wins' after all the double dealing.
As much as I enjoy this movie, we're talking about Tom Cruise here, his filmography is stacked. I don't think I would quite put it top 5, probably top 10.
A few good men, Jerry McGuire, MI:1, Minority report then this one? ☝️ fuck what about top gun, Jack reacher and last samurai one of my favs
Rainman is way better then all those movies.
Definitely. Definitely better.
Colour of Money and Cocktail?
Tom Cruise will never be Jack Reacher lol
How anyone thought that would work is beyond me.
Both movies are fucking awesome and Cruise does a really good job in them. I can understand that a book fan might be dissapointed with Tom not looking like Reacher, but imo he’s better overall than the Amazon Prime Reacher. Both actors are really good at the role, but i think some of the negativity about Tom Cruise Jack Reacher portrayal comes from bias people who just dont like Tom in the first place.
it's not a top 5 movie, but it's a top 5 performance.
top 5 performances, in no order: collateral (should have got oscar nomination for supporting actor over foxx), magnolia, born on the 4th of july, rainman, a few good men. honorable mention tropic thunder
but if we're talking best movies, then you have to look at other movies like edge of tomorrow, top gun, etc.
Yeah people keep echoing how this was his one of his greatest movies. It is a great movie but Tom Cruise has only done great movies for the last 2+ decades. There’s too many Tom Cruise great movies for this to be in the top 5
The Mummy was pretty bad for a Tom Cruise movie, but even then, I still found it entertaining.
It’s fantastic
One of Tom’s best roles.
Absurd take. Not even top 10 for Tom.
Cool opinion bro.
This is one of those cases where the nature of upvotes/downvotes is actually useful so that you can understand how wrong your opinion is.
Also I'm just kidding, it is subjective but clearly people aren't agreeing with you. But I am curious what you'd consider his top 10 are, even if you just named a few in your personal list.
Superb movie, still sticks with me 20+ years later
20+ years ago… fuuuuuuck
So fucking good
Oh yes. Among Michael Mann’s best. This, Heat, and The Insider are all masterpieces.
Don’t sleep on Manhunter either. If Anthony Hopkins never did silence, then it wouldn’t be over shadowed so much
This was my first Mann film, although I'm aware of the incredible fight scene from heat because, like this one, I've seen it on YouTube.
Really quite something with wonderful pacing and a lot of good realistic beats and actually good gun battles. The photography outside of fight scenes absolutely stinks. EVERY single line of dialogue is a head and shoulders shot. The script is fantastic but man did they shoot it in a boring way. I can't help but feel that with more inventive cinematography this movie would be elevated. Still, I liked it a lot. The scene with the wolves crossing the road was genius.
Maybe they were limited by large 35 mm cameras and most of the dialogue happening inside of a car..
This movie is incredible.
Tom Cruise should have won an Oscar. To me its the only movie of his where I see a detailed character and not Tom Cruise. Absolutely phenomenal performance. There is an insane barely controlled sociopathy present in that movie that is haunting.
Thats a great review. He's a good action actor but he always seems to play himself. A break from that sounds awesome. Probably a really good director. I'll check it out!
Leaves Netflix at the end of this year so I just watched it. Really good movie and a slightly different look for tom while being the bad guy is cool
Great start great middle, good ending
I would argue it’s Tom cruise’s best acting performance. His best movie bar none.
You know, I've never noticed before.
Where do the other two dudes go? When they walk up to the cab there's four of them, and the other two are nowhere to be seen when Tom Cruise arrives.
It's kinda hard to tell, but at about 0:12 you can see a couple of them look at Foxx zip tied to the wheel and nope out of there. They just keep walking.
Right, I saw that, but my point is they're just fucking Gone 40 seconds later when the camera pans back to their direction of travel, and its a long ass alleyway.
This was John Wick before John Wick.
I saw this movie when I was about 12 and I always remembered his method of shooting two to the chest, one to the head, every time. It's the main thing that has stuck with me after all these years.
Mozambique Drill
Why is it recommended to do this instead of 1 to the head? You’d save more ammo and time
The body shot is easier to hit. The head shot finishes the job once the target is incapacitated. Nobody trains under the assumption that you pull off headshots every time.
In real life you miss. Center of mass is easiest to hit and good for incapacitating. Three shots can be fired very fast as seen here and this technique has an extremely high chance of eliminating a threat.
Efficient, reliable and not much is comparably good for dealing with many threats at once
Good to learn about these things when we’re younger, before we really start needing them.
‘Two in the pump and one in the computer”
I genuinely love this movie and don’t understand why it doesn’t get more appreciation.
I saw this movie in theatre on a whim. Came out of the theatre blown away by how good this movie is.
Really enjoyed this movie but the ending fell incredibly flat for me and felt very untrue to the Tom Cruise character.
I know Heat always gets mentioned, and it is excellent... but Collateral is my favorite ♥️🚖
I just realized there were 4 of them at the beginning of the scene. What happened to the other two?
Such a goddamn good movie.
This movie is leaving Netflix soon, worth a watch, one of my fav's
Love this scene, but I can never not notice how there’s zero blood between 6 gunshot wounds.
I saw before, that this scene is used in a lot of conceal carry classes as the ideal way to draw and fire in a danger close situation.
Tom Cruise is so boss in this film.
Why is there 4 at the start, and only 2 at the end?
I saw this in theaters and I swear to god the gunshots sounded so terrifyingly real.
This is a character I would like to see survive for a new movie.
This movie has some of the most beautiful cinematography. The overhead shots of LA at night are amazing.
That Mozambique Drill on the bald guy. Smooth AF.
Something always bothered me in this movie. If you go back and watch the nightclub shootout, when people are shot dust shoots from the wounds. Like normal blood squibs but instead of blood its dust. As if everyone there were mummies.
https://youtu.be/RNnp_GeFrZE?si=XLguhloTrl4hVa-5
Starts at 2:20
I can see what you are saying but when bullets hit people sometimes the blood actually is almost an aerosolized mist. I get what he was going for.
Back when they made good movies.
bald guy struggles a bit too much with his concealed gun
I was banned from the Subtle Asian Traits Facebook group for repeatedly posting the Koreatown clubbing gunfight scene from this movie.