“ yes, I love the greatest oligocracy known as the Russian Federation, I love waking up in my shit hole where if I opposed to leadership at all I’m going to be sent to the meatgrinder that is Ukraine. Where I’m going to be become Cannonfudder for an absolutely useless conflict on Russia’s part. And anyways, who wouldn’t want to fight for Russia the largest country in the world within an economy the size of Italy! God, I love surrendering my life to mega corporations that buy yachts in Monaco. So hopefully we can bring back the Soviet Union as another oligocracy corporatcracy long live the United Soviet Gazprom republics!
Alot of these countries actively participate in VERY current humanitarian crimes.
And we should never forget past atrocities as well
You would rather call something dumb and stupid and paint an imaginary picture in your head of arguing against Russia bots than actually defending your take.
I'll add: the US used the Philipino national liberation movement to retake the Philippines from Spain. And then, when the locals began demanding independence, they harshly suppressed their former allies and used the Philippines as a colony for many years.
They turned into totalitarian state, only poors go to war, like in fortunate son, war is not excuse to build dictatorship - Europeans know that and still throwing money in Ukraine - because they know that they safe only as long as ukrainians keep dying.
When shit really will hit ventilator - the government will flee in whatever place they want.
Except they literally had protests about their version of the anti corruption court being controlled directly by the government and the government walled back and they are totalitarian as much as any other county under martial law and they didn't went to war, Russia invaded them
You are right, this whole giving just enough weapon systems to not lose and forcing them to hold back is BS. We should either equip Ukraine with enough planes, rockets and artillery to drive back Russia and destroy the supply lines going to the front or just give the Russians and ultimatum to retreat or get retreated. Because obviously, if we engage them, it's their fault for staying.
ok fair, so why is Russia not on the list? it literally captures men and sends them in to meatgrinder in UA. And has forsaken over a million of men in such a way?
Most if the russian troops is contract, white trash who agreed to go in UA meat grinder for 2400$.
UA troops is the civilians grabbed by the gov lapdogs and throwed on the frontline through tortures, in Ukraine it's called - bussification, you can see what amount of violence they apply to all men there, despite "fighting for freedom" bullshit.
Because Ukraine is at WAR. Every country that was at war didn't had closed borders. And recently ukraine let 18-22 boys leave the country without a problem.
Finland has thoroughly neoliberalist-fascist government pushing through atrocious legislation that renders us less and less democratic state every day. Fascist features have creeped in to police and court systems too and I hear about every three weeks in street someone announcing they are fascist or racist or want to whack black people, without even trying to get familiar with these elements, they just happen to be everywhere.
There are a lot of folks against fascist progress but trajectory is worrisome. Next elections are promising, gallups are implying more left government than this current bunch of piece of shits, but there was less fascist president between Trump terms also and things still turned out like shit. Some gears are really hard to stop and it is really hard to push nazis back to closet. We need to maintain the thesis that there are severe issues in Finland too and keep on fighting back against nazis.
A member of the revolutionary communist party handing out leaflets asked me if I was far left and I said yes, but then qualified it by saying “but I don’t suck Putin dick” and he iced me.
Buddy, y'know the actions of the Russian Empire were not done by the Soviets of the USSR right?
They were 2 different government, with different economic, political and ideological systems, you get that right?
And before you say it, yes, the Soviet Union also had plenty of bad policy and decisions, like the deportations of WW2 and failing to aid certain nationalities correctly to integrate into soviet society, but that's the thing, they were failures faults in the decision making and policy rather than racist decisions explicitly made to be racist.
It's not the same wanting to improve public healthcare or education and accidentally leaving people behind, than making policy calling to supress certain ethnicities from having acces to said services.
youre joking right.
the USSR made numerous policies intentionally to displace non-slavic ethnic groups in the USSR, especially asiatic peoples in the siberian regions and caucaus
I mean, there are some places (especially in the Arab world) where slavery still exists. And even though Saudi Arabia is by far not the worst example (that would be the UAE), there still are examples of modern slavery going into the 2020s.
What I don't understand is Finland being there. What did they do?
Vyborg Massacre, White Terror, and the Siege of Leningrad. If you look into the history of nearly any state long enough you will find some pretty serious atrocities, which I believe is part of the point, if OP is acting in good faith.
Ofcourse Saudis. Their entire country is built on the enslavement of migrant workers. Let's not even start with the free speech violations, human rights violations, women's rights, inhumane treatment of political prisoners, the killing of lgbtqia members, genocide in Sudan and the most known inhumane vile killing of a saudi journalist
Massacring communists, repressing workers movements, allying with the Nazis, sheltering White Army soldiers, officers and collaborators during the Russian Civil War and benefiting like the rest of Europe from capitalist exploitation of the 3rd World
What happened in the Patagonia region is tragic and should be condemned and remembered. It’s still pretty telling when someone compares it to the USSR, it’s like saying “I killed a whole village? Yeah well he killed three people, so what now”
Like yeah killing three people is horrible… but does that excuse killing a whole village? Not really lol
Alright, help me out here; Ukraine? Argentina? The Philippines? How do any fit the criteria?
Moreover, Modern Taiwan and Germany aren’t exactly in their “Kill all the minorities and consolidate power under [insert fascist here].” Is it fair to put them on there? I suppose I can understand the ROC to an extent, but modern Germany seems much further removed from its horrific past.
Finally, the E.U? This one I especially don’t get… it’s effectively just a confederation that’s barely ever been able to do much as its own entity.
Be patient with me if you reply, please and thank you.
Ukraine has a real Nazi problem, even tho Russia uses that to justify their imperial aspirations, it is a real issue, there are many, many more groups than just Azov, like Svoboda, Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists, Ukrainian National Assembly and so on that have been active for a long time, even before the Euromaidan.
Argentina right now has a far-right libertarian moron as president that has been destroying their economy and selling the whole country to foreign actors, that's without counting things like the military junta in the 60s and 70s that massacred communists and forced dissapearances of anyone they didn't like, that history is still very present.
The Philippines has been carrying out for decades a war against working people and the armed groups that try time and time again to stop the exploitation of philippinos by their ruling class (and sadly China has helped the government suppress these communist movements, Chinese foreign policy is absolute rubbish)
Taiwan is basically a Western foothold usedul to attack China, it's the US' biggest aircraft carrier in the South China Sea, also it's being used rn as a talking point to justify war with China by Takeichi, Japan's new far-right president.
Germany, besides the Western part (which was te one to take over the whole government after reunification) being stocked full of Nazis in positions of power after the war and destroying the Eastern public safety nets the DDR had, has historically being very close friends with Israel and avid supporters of their genocide.
And the EU as a whole, well, because it's basically a Union of the European bourgeoisie, like NATO, they simply united to protect ruling class interests in Europe and have a united front against the working class at home and abroad, facilitating our exploitation of the 3rd world
Israel 🇮🇱 - Correct, but it's not a war, it's a genocide.
Great Britain 🇬🇧 - Supporter of Israeli genocide, infamous worldwide colonizer, still massively exploits the 3rd world
Japan 🇯🇵 - Incredibly far-right country with a warmongering president as of now, have never apologized for their crimes in East Asia during WW2, incredibly sexist and racist and anti-worker culture.
Taiwan 🇹🇼 - Basically a US aircraft carrier in the South China Sea that is constantly used to try to manufacter consent for war with China by Japan and the US, besides it's long history of fascist anti-communist repression.
US 🇺🇸 - Number #1 supporter and doer of worldwide state terrorism, genocide and workers repression, incredibly racist and bigoted country constantly repressing it's workers with violence
Finland 🇫🇮 - Allied with the Nazis, long history of anti-communist repression and massacres, like the rest of Europe, benefits from the exploitation of the 3rd World
Philippines 🇵🇭 - Has been carrying out a war against it's own people that try to stand up against capitalist oppression for decades.
NATO 🧭 - An alliance of capitalist countries that has bombed and massacred Hundreds of Thousands worldwide, many Nazis joined it after WW2, even one of NATO's Chairman was a nazi once
Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 - Close Israeli and US ally, theocratic dictatorship
Australia 🇦🇺 - Founded on the genocide of natives, Western ally that has helped in many imperialist endeavors.
Ukraine 🇺🇦 - Despite this being used by Russia to justify imperialist aspirations, Ukraine DOES have a Nazi problem
Argentina 🇦🇷 - Has a far-right libertarian moron as president that is selling the country to the highest bidder and is absolutely wrecking their economy
France 🇫🇷 - Worst colonial exploiter (behind the US) of today
Germany 🇩🇪 - Close Israeli ally and genocide supporter, far-right shithole, destroyed the East's public services and safety nets after reunification.
EU 🇪🇺 - Alliance of capitalist bourgeois countries, 100% NOT the middle ground between State control and free market, I mean we have lobbies just like the US ffs
Surely changing the flag exonerates them from their previous crimes against humanity! This was not the act of one, a dozen, or even one thousand individuals. Millions of Germans took part in the systematic murder of millions of civilians. To forget this is to add insult to the tragedy of those who have been wronged.
Being very close allies with Israel, destroying the public safety nets of the East after reunification and the Western part being full of Nazis in positions of power during the Cold War that later spread to the East, again, during reunification
И прикол был в том, что "геноцид" от рук этой страны, был внутри этой страны...
Вот прикол довольно жизненный.. Нам что-то британцы и французы, немцы говорят... А дорогие европейцы, кхм, кхм, вам напомнить что вы творили во времена колониализма?
Та самая Япония что устроила геноцид китайцев и азиатов, та самая Франция что качала ресурсы из Африки, те самые Британцы что колонизировали половину планеты, и устаивали кучу кровопролитных войн, те самые штаты, что устроили войну на ближнем Востоке за нефть, и сейчас поддерживают действия Израиля..
Какие же вы святые страны! Даже сказать нечего! Просто считаю несправедливым что грехи СССР все помнят, а про грешки штатов и всех выше перечисленных стран, забывают.
Our glorious empire, versus the evil savages. It's such an easy story to sell to people who have neither the critical thinking skills, nor empathy, to understand that we're all just people, trying to do our best to survive, and keep our loved ones safe.
I don't like infighting on the left, but you can't seriously bring up anarchism when talking about the USSR when Makhno had slaves and forced conscription or Petrochenko in Kronstadt collaborated with White Army officers and generals like Pyotr Wrangle
The list is short. It shouldn't just be Ukraine, but all 15 post-Soviet republics, including Russia itself, which issued its declaration of independence on June 12, 1990, essentially initiating the collapse of the USSR. Considering the context that Russia exported about 60% of its gas to the EU through Ukraine in 2013, and then allowed the US to establish its puppet regime there - which enabled the US to destroy gas supplies to the EU from Russia itself - one can say with certainty that the Russian bourgeoisie is the stupidest of all. The regime change in Ukraine was a violent one under US supervision, but the surrender of the territory of business interest that constitutes the prevailing income for the treasury (Russian - Ukraine) in favor of the US was done by the current Russian government. If we recall that the modern political class of Russia produces such wretched series as 'Chronicles of the Russian Revolution,' 'Stolypin,' and 'Mummy,' shown on main federal channels to smear the Soviet system, Lenin, and revolutionaries, it can be said with certainty that Russia is no different from current Ukraine at all. In both the RF and Ukraine, through state orders, they smear our shared Soviet past and Lenin - the ruling classes of both states have the same task: to legitimize the collapse of 1990-91 and prevent a return to a model where their capital didn't exist.
Lol as if the ppl in those countries arent constantly shining a light on their injustices. When citizens in the USSR did it they got killed, but sure try to claim yall are the same.
I love how anyone defending the ussr or communist states doesn’t deny that they were hell holes, they instead shift the conversation to other countries.
I'm guessing Aus is on there because of the actions of the English settlers and several following governments on the indigenous (murder, relocation, re-education etc) from first contact basically right up until the 1970's? Not that I think young Australians having never actually committed these acts have anything themselves to be "sorry" for we can certainly learn from those mistakes.
Ah, dear commies! I'll tell the USSR that you're being mean to other countries... Oh wait. It seems that the big "superpower" couldn't compete against capitalism and now is a dead ideology! So sad!
False dichotomy. All of them can be bad for different reasons, just as we can take the positives of many of them. Social progress must oppose authoritarianism wherever it manifests.
Australia is a colonial vestige of England and they're so unbelievably fucking racist. I've seen how they talk about Aboriginals, let alone migrant workers.
Taiwan was literally created by fascist nazi-collaborators. It's literally not even a country, only virtue-signaling libs even care about it, it's only useful for western military influence. Taiwan is like if the American Confederacy ceded into the Bahamas.
Communist brains break when they can’t comprehend an actual socialist hating all these things
Edit: it looks like someone edited Argentina and Saudi Arabia emojis over Kazakhstan and Russia 🤣 Russia notorious freedom country, at least maybe here
Of course its usssr reddit talking about bad stuff of other countries. Just dont look what they did in Kazakhstan or what they did to majority of popular people back in their time, because "ThE OtHER CoUNtRiES DiD THaT ToO"
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Just today, the EU council unilaterally froze the bank accounts of three german journalists for being Critical of Israel.
Not just that, but they decreed that anyone cought helping these three journalists buy food would be subject to the same treatment. Keep in mind the EU has no legal right to do this, especially to go Over the german legal system like that, but it still didn't stop them.
But totally, the EU is totally democrática and not at all an oligarchy in the hands of the mega rich via lobbies.
If they are democratic, I'm a 10 meter tall pink dragon.
I don’t get put in reeducation school/camp for saying things that the state does not agree with. That is a big difference.
I am really tired of all the propaganda saying a China is great. Sure, the US has heaps of public flaws. But can we talk about Tiananmen Square, the crack down of free speech in Hong Kong or the Uiqhurs yet? And what did happen to Jack Ma for two years?
Things look great as long as you control the message. This is what Trump wants to do, but so far has failed.
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I didn’t know these were all equal. They all brainwash and they all do bad shit but not to the same level. Smooth brain take. There’s a reason people leave.
“ yes, I love the greatest oligocracy known as the Russian Federation, I love waking up in my shit hole where if I opposed to leadership at all I’m going to be sent to the meatgrinder that is Ukraine. Where I’m going to be become Cannonfudder for an absolutely useless conflict on Russia’s part. And anyways, who wouldn’t want to fight for Russia the largest country in the world within an economy the size of Italy! God, I love surrendering my life to mega corporations that buy yachts in Monaco. So hopefully we can bring back the Soviet Union as another oligocracy corporatcracy long live the United Soviet Gazprom republics!
Best comment. This subreddit makes no sense. Seriously. This meme is dumb. Comparing past vs present situations... seriously...
What do you mean past situations?
We spent 10 years chastising China for their cultural genocide on the Uyghurs, and then we went and supported an actual ethnic cleansing.
This post has never been more relevant
Alot of these countries actively participate in VERY current humanitarian crimes.
And we should never forget past atrocities as well
You would rather call something dumb and stupid and paint an imaginary picture in your head of arguing against Russia bots than actually defending your take.
Be honest, why don't you like this post.
oligopoly is a term used for markets, what are you even talking about
Russia is sort of an oligocracy sorry, that was a mistake on my part.
This post isn't even in support of Russia, you nut.
Do you truly believe any kind of criticism of the West is Russian propaganda.
Never saw this level of shadowboxing, it's kinda pathologically concerning
Saca a argentina de ahí carajo
Meanwhile the average Argentinian holding their fart to sleep with the stomach full
What a lovely turn of phrase!
El estado argentino es responsable de al menos dos genocidios. Estudiá.
Why the hell is The Philippines, Argentina, and Ukraine on this list, lmao...
For Phillipines: Political Dynasty Slow Justice System Extrajudicial killings Rampant Corruption Conservatism
I'll add: the US used the Philipino national liberation movement to retake the Philippines from Spain. And then, when the locals began demanding independence, they harshly suppressed their former allies and used the Philippines as a colony for many years.
Because Ukraine is now a concentration camp.
because men aren’t allowed to leave the damn country
that's right - so called "free and democratic country" - keeping men as prisoners.
So the UK wasn't democratic during ww2?
It's not democratic now, never has been.
During The ussr basicly no one was allowed to leave, not just during The time of war. "its okay when we do it?"
They're at war!
They turned into totalitarian state, only poors go to war, like in fortunate son, war is not excuse to build dictatorship - Europeans know that and still throwing money in Ukraine - because they know that they safe only as long as ukrainians keep dying.
When shit really will hit ventilator - the government will flee in whatever place they want.
They’re trying to hold elections only if the safety and security can be insured…
And anyways, most Ukrainians don’t even want to hold elections during war time.
https://amp.dw.com/en/ukraine-elections-under-martial-law-but-only-if-its-safe/a-75106880
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/09/europe/ukraine-elections-zelensky-trump-russia-proposal-intl-latam
https://www.reuters.com/world/can-ukraine-hold-elections-while-war-2025-12-10/
Except they literally had protests about their version of the anti corruption court being controlled directly by the government and the government walled back and they are totalitarian as much as any other county under martial law and they didn't went to war, Russia invaded them
You are right, this whole giving just enough weapon systems to not lose and forcing them to hold back is BS. We should either equip Ukraine with enough planes, rockets and artillery to drive back Russia and destroy the supply lines going to the front or just give the Russians and ultimatum to retreat or get retreated. Because obviously, if we engage them, it's their fault for staying.
And war is more important than the lives of the working class, even though the war is being fought to protect the interests of the ruling class?
You are so naive
So you want Ukraine to surrender just for peace right?
No they should just fight and kill each other to protect our "freedom" and "values". That's more important than the lives of the working class /s
Yes. Ukraine and the whole wold can stop all wars by surrendering to russia and going then to re education camps.
/s
ok fair, so why is Russia not on the list? it literally captures men and sends them in to meatgrinder in UA. And has forsaken over a million of men in such a way?
Check which sub you are in
Most if the russian troops is contract, white trash who agreed to go in UA meat grinder for 2400$. UA troops is the civilians grabbed by the gov lapdogs and throwed on the frontline through tortures, in Ukraine it's called - bussification, you can see what amount of violence they apply to all men there, despite "fighting for freedom" bullshit.
Wow you have a very empathetic view on those fighting for russia
Like they weren't in most countries during ww2 or any other war for the existence of the country
"Just let the rich people flee the war!"
one oligarchy vs another oligarchy
Because they glorify fascists and have discriminated against their Russian minority groups
That doesnt distirb you with NK. Also wartime USSR,
I mean even peace time GDR wouldnt let their people leave
Jfc what a moron
It isn't
Because Ukraine is at WAR. Every country that was at war didn't had closed borders. And recently ukraine let 18-22 boys leave the country without a problem.
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Bro don't bring that subject up lmao. Or do you want people to call you a brainwashed lib defending CIA puppet states?
Cause that happened last time I mentioned Ukraine
I'm sorry, is it okay to call someone saying anything pro-Russian "a brainwashed Putin's troll"? Asking for a friend.
Add Finland, Australia and the EU (which isnt even a country...)
As stupid memes as they come
Finland has thoroughly neoliberalist-fascist government pushing through atrocious legislation that renders us less and less democratic state every day. Fascist features have creeped in to police and court systems too and I hear about every three weeks in street someone announcing they are fascist or racist or want to whack black people, without even trying to get familiar with these elements, they just happen to be everywhere.
There are a lot of folks against fascist progress but trajectory is worrisome. Next elections are promising, gallups are implying more left government than this current bunch of piece of shits, but there was less fascist president between Trump terms also and things still turned out like shit. Some gears are really hard to stop and it is really hard to push nazis back to closet. We need to maintain the thesis that there are severe issues in Finland too and keep on fighting back against nazis.
Moon nazis are missing
And kinghts of the brown circle
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A member of the revolutionary communist party handing out leaflets asked me if I was far left and I said yes, but then qualified it by saying “but I don’t suck Putin dick” and he iced me.
That’s why.
Argentina president is under Israel control
Well, about Ukraine you can check out this. Also if you will google, you can find a great photos with "flying" around a tree polish 5 year old kids. Basically Nazies doing nazi things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
Are you aware of the current Argentina government?
Of course the USSR subreddit would put Finland on there lol
Hm i wonder what finland did to the sami people
I wonder what Russia did to the Siberians and Alaska natives
Buddy, y'know the actions of the Russian Empire were not done by the Soviets of the USSR right?
They were 2 different government, with different economic, political and ideological systems, you get that right?
And before you say it, yes, the Soviet Union also had plenty of bad policy and decisions, like the deportations of WW2 and failing to aid certain nationalities correctly to integrate into soviet society, but that's the thing, they were failures faults in the decision making and policy rather than racist decisions explicitly made to be racist.
It's not the same wanting to improve public healthcare or education and accidentally leaving people behind, than making policy calling to supress certain ethnicities from having acces to said services.
youre joking right.
the USSR made numerous policies intentionally to displace non-slavic ethnic groups in the USSR, especially asiatic peoples in the siberian regions and caucaus
So you say both did the same bad things?
Yes, but only one is in the meme.
Hmm, i wonder what usssr did to Kazakhstan
East karelian extermination camps
Helping nazis
Saudi ?
They oppress and persecute shias and fight against anti imperialist groups(ansarallah in yemen)
They also bomb sana'a
And they are a zionist puppet
And they gave birth to salafism and wahhabism which led to isis and al qaeda
Terror groups are built on gulf money
I mean, there are some places (especially in the Arab world) where slavery still exists. And even though Saudi Arabia is by far not the worst example (that would be the UAE), there still are examples of modern slavery going into the 2020s.
What I don't understand is Finland being there. What did they do?
Vyborg Massacre, White Terror, and the Siege of Leningrad. If you look into the history of nearly any state long enough you will find some pretty serious atrocities, which I believe is part of the point, if OP is acting in good faith.
Ofcourse Saudis. Their entire country is built on the enslavement of migrant workers. Let's not even start with the free speech violations, human rights violations, women's rights, inhumane treatment of political prisoners, the killing of lgbtqia members, genocide in Sudan and the most known inhumane vile killing of a saudi journalist
Man if you inverse the order of the flags you'll get your average r/ussr comment lol
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wrath
How does the acts of the russian empire relate to the USSR again?
What the fuck are Finland and Ukraine doing here?
Finland did some shit during WW2 and to the Sami. Ukraine did some shit during the interwar years.
The actual reason they're there is because this post was almost certainly made by a Russian.
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Why is Finland there?
What did we do in even similar scale to those communist states?
Massacring communists, repressing workers movements, allying with the Nazis, sheltering White Army soldiers, officers and collaborators during the Russian Civil War and benefiting like the rest of Europe from capitalist exploitation of the 3rd World
the entire post is stupid, don't worry about it
Oh yes, I know the whole post is stupid, it's r/ussr after all.
What flags were there before you put Argentina? Phillippines and Saudi Arabia over it?
Why the fuck would you put the federal republic of germany on there???
rehabilitaded Nazis in governement and in the military after WW2
They're all dead now
why is this tankie shit getting recommended to me
I don't know, but you can mute subs.
https://preview.redd.it/gk45p71zxc9g1.png?width=232&format=png&auto=webp&s=b104be27ff5fffceba41f915fa767c7141e21d97
yes argentina has work camps and does genocides, y'all can't be this stupid for real 😭
I don’t think they have any of that, but they (alongside Chile) did colonize the southern third of South America
(I am not an AuthCom, just here to spread the truth :D)
In the 19th century
What happened in the Patagonia region is tragic and should be condemned and remembered. It’s still pretty telling when someone compares it to the USSR, it’s like saying “I killed a whole village? Yeah well he killed three people, so what now”
Like yeah killing three people is horrible… but does that excuse killing a whole village? Not really lol
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General Julio Argentino Roca que Dios lo tenga en la gloria 🫡
Why do they all speak Spanish?
Alright, help me out here; Ukraine? Argentina? The Philippines? How do any fit the criteria?
Moreover, Modern Taiwan and Germany aren’t exactly in their “Kill all the minorities and consolidate power under [insert fascist here].” Is it fair to put them on there? I suppose I can understand the ROC to an extent, but modern Germany seems much further removed from its horrific past.
Finally, the E.U? This one I especially don’t get… it’s effectively just a confederation that’s barely ever been able to do much as its own entity.
Be patient with me if you reply, please and thank you.
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Ukraine has a real Nazi problem, even tho Russia uses that to justify their imperial aspirations, it is a real issue, there are many, many more groups than just Azov, like Svoboda, Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists, Ukrainian National Assembly and so on that have been active for a long time, even before the Euromaidan.
Argentina right now has a far-right libertarian moron as president that has been destroying their economy and selling the whole country to foreign actors, that's without counting things like the military junta in the 60s and 70s that massacred communists and forced dissapearances of anyone they didn't like, that history is still very present.
The Philippines has been carrying out for decades a war against working people and the armed groups that try time and time again to stop the exploitation of philippinos by their ruling class (and sadly China has helped the government suppress these communist movements, Chinese foreign policy is absolute rubbish)
Taiwan is basically a Western foothold usedul to attack China, it's the US' biggest aircraft carrier in the South China Sea, also it's being used rn as a talking point to justify war with China by Takeichi, Japan's new far-right president.
Germany, besides the Western part (which was te one to take over the whole government after reunification) being stocked full of Nazis in positions of power after the war and destroying the Eastern public safety nets the DDR had, has historically being very close friends with Israel and avid supporters of their genocide.
And the EU as a whole, well, because it's basically a Union of the European bourgeoisie, like NATO, they simply united to protect ruling class interests in Europe and have a united front against the working class at home and abroad, facilitating our exploitation of the 3rd world
This hypocrisy works both ways, idiot. 🤦♂️
I don't get it?
I know that Argentina had a period of militaristic tirany with the famous activities such as "death flights" but AFAIK it's not like that anymore.
As for Ukraine - it's a hot topic that I would rather not touch even with a long pole
Yeah, “they are all the same”. 🤣
I mean I could just flip these flags
Indeed...
Can you take argentina out, we are not an empire (if you couldn't tell) and we never had concentration camps
Australia needs no explaining
Can you explain the other countries?
🇮🇱 Israel - It's in a bloody war with Palestine. I'd consider Gaza one of the most unliveable areas of the planet and I blame Israel for that
🇬🇧 Great Britain - Constitutional monarchy, writing mean things on the Internet is punished by prison
🇯🇵 Japan - Constitutional monarchy, it's free but bigoted
🇹🇼 Taiwan - A stable democracy, but China wants it
🇺🇸 United States - Has a powerful military and is very warlike. Shootings and expensive healthcare are a real problem
🇫🇮 Finland - One of the most democratic, free and happy democracies in the world. It's cold
🇵🇭 Philippines - A republic. People voted for the son of a dictator once
🧭 NATO - Apparently it's a country now
🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia - The only authoritarian country in this list
🇦🇺 Australia - Constitutional monarchy, free but kinda racist
🇺🇦 Ukraine - Semi-democracy
🇦🇷 Argentina - Governed by a libertarian
🇫🇷 France - Democracy
🇩🇪 Germany - Democracy, acknowledges its dark past
🇪🇺 European Union - The middle ground between free market and state control
Israel 🇮🇱 - Correct, but it's not a war, it's a genocide.
Great Britain 🇬🇧 - Supporter of Israeli genocide, infamous worldwide colonizer, still massively exploits the 3rd world
Japan 🇯🇵 - Incredibly far-right country with a warmongering president as of now, have never apologized for their crimes in East Asia during WW2, incredibly sexist and racist and anti-worker culture.
Taiwan 🇹🇼 - Basically a US aircraft carrier in the South China Sea that is constantly used to try to manufacter consent for war with China by Japan and the US, besides it's long history of fascist anti-communist repression.
US 🇺🇸 - Number #1 supporter and doer of worldwide state terrorism, genocide and workers repression, incredibly racist and bigoted country constantly repressing it's workers with violence
Finland 🇫🇮 - Allied with the Nazis, long history of anti-communist repression and massacres, like the rest of Europe, benefits from the exploitation of the 3rd World
Philippines 🇵🇭 - Has been carrying out a war against it's own people that try to stand up against capitalist oppression for decades.
NATO 🧭 - An alliance of capitalist countries that has bombed and massacred Hundreds of Thousands worldwide, many Nazis joined it after WW2, even one of NATO's Chairman was a nazi once
Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 - Close Israeli and US ally, theocratic dictatorship
Australia 🇦🇺 - Founded on the genocide of natives, Western ally that has helped in many imperialist endeavors.
Ukraine 🇺🇦 - Despite this being used by Russia to justify imperialist aspirations, Ukraine DOES have a Nazi problem
Argentina 🇦🇷 - Has a far-right libertarian moron as president that is selling the country to the highest bidder and is absolutely wrecking their economy
France 🇫🇷 - Worst colonial exploiter (behind the US) of today
Germany 🇩🇪 - Close Israeli ally and genocide supporter, far-right shithole, destroyed the East's public services and safety nets after reunification.
EU 🇪🇺 - Alliance of capitalist bourgeois countries, 100% NOT the middle ground between State control and free market, I mean we have lobbies just like the US ffs
Why the new german flag, what have they done?
Surely changing the flag exonerates them from their previous crimes against humanity! This was not the act of one, a dozen, or even one thousand individuals. Millions of Germans took part in the systematic murder of millions of civilians. To forget this is to add insult to the tragedy of those who have been wronged.
Being very close allies with Israel, destroying the public safety nets of the East after reunification and the Western part being full of Nazis in positions of power during the Cold War that later spread to the East, again, during reunification
What? 😭
Guys this isn’t defending I don’t think it’s saying every awful thing past communist projects have done full capitalist countries have done tenfold.
И прикол был в том, что "геноцид" от рук этой страны, был внутри этой страны... Вот прикол довольно жизненный.. Нам что-то британцы и французы, немцы говорят... А дорогие европейцы, кхм, кхм, вам напомнить что вы творили во времена колониализма?
Та самая Япония что устроила геноцид китайцев и азиатов, та самая Франция что качала ресурсы из Африки, те самые Британцы что колонизировали половину планеты, и устаивали кучу кровопролитных войн, те самые штаты, что устроили войну на ближнем Востоке за нефть, и сейчас поддерживают действия Израиля.. Какие же вы святые страны! Даже сказать нечего! Просто считаю несправедливым что грехи СССР все помнят, а про грешки штатов и всех выше перечисленных стран, забывают.
Pointing out hypocrisy is whataboutism, even if you don't justify the other thing, whataboutism is when you point out inconsistency in my beliefs.
Wtf does Saudi have to do with this?
And in Poland it has been good since 1989.
Our glorious empire, versus the evil savages. It's such an easy story to sell to people who have neither the critical thinking skills, nor empathy, to understand that we're all just people, trying to do our best to survive, and keep our loved ones safe.
may I step in to introduce you the anarchism?
I don't like infighting on the left, but you can't seriously bring up anarchism when talking about the USSR when Makhno had slaves and forced conscription or Petrochenko in Kronstadt collaborated with White Army officers and generals like Pyotr Wrangle
finland but not modern russia… wtf
The list is short. It shouldn't just be Ukraine, but all 15 post-Soviet republics, including Russia itself, which issued its declaration of independence on June 12, 1990, essentially initiating the collapse of the USSR. Considering the context that Russia exported about 60% of its gas to the EU through Ukraine in 2013, and then allowed the US to establish its puppet regime there - which enabled the US to destroy gas supplies to the EU from Russia itself - one can say with certainty that the Russian bourgeoisie is the stupidest of all. The regime change in Ukraine was a violent one under US supervision, but the surrender of the territory of business interest that constitutes the prevailing income for the treasury (Russian - Ukraine) in favor of the US was done by the current Russian government. If we recall that the modern political class of Russia produces such wretched series as 'Chronicles of the Russian Revolution,' 'Stolypin,' and 'Mummy,' shown on main federal channels to smear the Soviet system, Lenin, and revolutionaries, it can be said with certainty that Russia is no different from current Ukraine at all. In both the RF and Ukraine, through state orders, they smear our shared Soviet past and Lenin - the ruling classes of both states have the same task: to legitimize the collapse of 1990-91 and prevent a return to a model where their capital didn't exist.
Punishing a son for his father's crimes... I thought we were past that.
NATO is a country?
Wow two things can be bad at the same time lol.
Bro when you have to build walls to keep people in, that should tell you something
I agree with meme for north korea, its basically a monarchy
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You know NATO and the EU arent countries right?
Lol as if the ppl in those countries arent constantly shining a light on their injustices. When citizens in the USSR did it they got killed, but sure try to claim yall are the same.
RAAAAAAAAAAH ARGENTINA MENTIONED!!!!!! QUE MIERDA ES UNA ECONOMIA ESTABLE!!!!!! 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
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I love how anyone defending the ussr or communist states doesn’t deny that they were hell holes, they instead shift the conversation to other countries.
Ukraine? What?
Yep right dprk and the EU ate exactly the same, literally. Delusional
FINLAND????
where is russia? no because if you thinks russia is the good of this history you are very wrong about it
God,this a new all time low,even for this sub
Alright… this is sad, if you believe this you lick Putins toes.
Not a single one of those gets glazed like the other three.
I'm guessing Aus is on there because of the actions of the English settlers and several following governments on the indigenous (murder, relocation, re-education etc) from first contact basically right up until the 1970's? Not that I think young Australians having never actually committed these acts have anything themselves to be "sorry" for we can certainly learn from those mistakes.
First post off this sub in my feed, immediatly muted you guys can't be serious what the fuck
Lol can you cope any harder?
throw canada up there while you’re at it
Wth did the EU do its mainly a trade union
LMFAO putting the EU is outrageous, is this subreddit just a bunch of russia-aligned weirdos?
That's a stupid meme. Comparing past vs present situations makes no sense. You could have blamed on other current stuff.
usa is actually based though
read a book
Finland and Ukraine? Wtf...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_visit_by_Boris_Yeltsin_to_the_United_States
Liberals don't like Saudi Arabia and we tend to massively hate the genocidal parts of most of those countries histories.
Ah, dear commies! I'll tell the USSR that you're being mean to other countries... Oh wait. It seems that the big "superpower" couldn't compete against capitalism and now is a dead ideology! So sad!
It's not perfect
Every country has a history... But some countries are good now, no wars, just peace :)
I was talking about Germany...
Have you ever heard of whataboutism?
False dichotomy. All of them can be bad for different reasons, just as we can take the positives of many of them. Social progress must oppose authoritarianism wherever it manifests.
YES FINALLY, the commies realised that BOTH the US AND soviet union were imperial powers along with every other country here.
NA fuck off about Australia, what did we do? Taiwan AND Ukraine to you tankie fucks, zero morals
Australia is a colonial vestige of England and they're so unbelievably fucking racist. I've seen how they talk about Aboriginals, let alone migrant workers.
Taiwan was literally created by fascist nazi-collaborators. It's literally not even a country, only virtue-signaling libs even care about it, it's only useful for western military influence. Taiwan is like if the American Confederacy ceded into the Bahamas.
Communist brains break when they can’t comprehend an actual socialist hating all these things
Edit: it looks like someone edited Argentina and Saudi Arabia emojis over Kazakhstan and Russia 🤣 Russia notorious freedom country, at least maybe here
argetina???
Of course its usssr reddit talking about bad stuff of other countries. Just dont look what they did in Kazakhstan or what they did to majority of popular people back in their time, because "ThE OtHER CoUNtRiES DiD THaT ToO"
When you realize you can dislike all of them 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Mad cuz finland won
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Yall suck, this was the only guy who got it right
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Okay this is just pure ragebait at this point.
Laisse la France tranquille par contre
That's the secret, we hate europe for the exact same reasons🤣
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Russian cope in a nutshell.
Just today, the EU council unilaterally froze the bank accounts of three german journalists for being Critical of Israel.
Not just that, but they decreed that anyone cought helping these three journalists buy food would be subject to the same treatment. Keep in mind the EU has no legal right to do this, especially to go Over the german legal system like that, but it still didn't stop them.
But totally, the EU is totally democrática and not at all an oligarchy in the hands of the mega rich via lobbies.
If they are democratic, I'm a 10 meter tall pink dragon.
All forms of socialism suck though to be fair
I don’t get put in reeducation school/camp for saying things that the state does not agree with. That is a big difference.
I am really tired of all the propaganda saying a China is great. Sure, the US has heaps of public flaws. But can we talk about Tiananmen Square, the crack down of free speech in Hong Kong or the Uiqhurs yet? And what did happen to Jack Ma for two years?
Things look great as long as you control the message. This is what Trump wants to do, but so far has failed.
Finland?
this sub showing its intelligence again
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Now remove everything else besides israel us and saudi arabia and it will be fine 😂
My guy. Saudi Arabia has like 100k slaves right now.
...Since when did the Philippines become a genocidal empire?
Hmm, yes, france and north korea are the same
I didn’t know these were all equal. They all brainwash and they all do bad shit but not to the same level. Smooth brain take. There’s a reason people leave.
Thanks for pointing it out, interesting that it’s still warranted a reply though.
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