Let's not forget that she now loyally serves Russia's oligarchic, anti-communist regime, helping it pass anti-people laws. For example, she supported the reform to raise the retirement age by five years.
She was picked among other women, who had better physical and technical background, as a person that would be better for propaganda: working class origin, lost father, better 'public' skills.
Korolev was furious because of the results of the flight: they managed to return her alive but she failed the experiments that were planned because she couldn't eat and was tired. After the landing she traded cosmonaut food for local one despite that it was forbidden to eat before check up.
tldr; It was more PR victory rather than successful flight.
Hate her for her political opinions today, yes; but don't be so drunk on hate and misogyny to the point that it makes your claims unfactual, and clouds your vision. She was not incompetent, and her mission was not a failure to women. To claim so would be misogynist and ignorant of facts - in which case every one of you who make that claim are no better than the fascists that rule Russia now.
Here is the full story:
Valentina Tereshkova’s 1963 mission (Vostok 6) did not fail, nor did she commit any catastrophic error that justified excluding women from spaceflight. The idea that she “proved women couldn’t handle space” is historically inaccurate and misogynist.
The most serious incident on her flight was a navigation program error that would have raised her orbit instead of lowering it during re-entry. Crucially, this was not her mistake. It was a ground-programming error, which she herself identified and reported - this shows she was more than qualified!
Mission control confirmed it and uploaded corrected parameters. Soviet chief designer Sergei Korolev later acknowledged this. The incident was classified at the time, and later retellings quietly shifted blame onto Tereshkova instead of the system, because of misogyny.
She did experience space sickness and fatigue, but this was not unusual for early Vostok missions. Gherman Titov (Vostok-2) suffered worse space sickness, and several male cosmonauts had comparable or poorer medical performance. None of them were used as justification to bar men from flying again. But they were in the case of women - again, misogyny.
Tereshkova also clashed with Korolev and mission control. She questioned procedures and was not deferential in the way Soviet leadership expected. This hurt her standing internally, especially because she was already viewed as a political and symbolic selection, not a test pilot. These were personality and institutional issues, not evidence of incompetence. A good pilot is not one that blindly follows orders; because then when there is systematic error like was found on that flight - she and her male co-pilot would have died.
The long gap before the next Soviet woman flew (Svetlana Savitskaya in 1982) had nothing to do with Tereshkova’s performance, if anything, it was due to misogyny. But also, after the early propaganda victories of Vostok, the Soviet space programme shifted priorities toward long-duration missions, space stations, and military objectives. Leadership decided - incorrectly and unscientifically - that continuing to train women was unnecessary. Archival material and memoirs make clear that bureaucratic inertia and sexism, not flight data, drove this decision.
Finally, much of the modern hostility toward Tereshkova is retrospective. Her current political positions - particularly her strong support for Putin and constitutional changes - are unpopular, and many critics project this dislike backward by reframing her spaceflight as a failure. That reinterpretation is not supported by historical evidence.
No. It's the nature of ape: empathy to a partner, hate and aggression to a stranger. The only pill against it is Jesus Christ, but even He isn't a guarrantee.
The fuck sort of religious nonsense are you talking about? Get your predatory evangelism out of here. It is absolutely possible to be a good human being without religion
Now as a member of the State Duma, she is a Putinist legislator who proposed removing term limits for Putin and is heavily sanctioned for her support of the war in Ukraine.
I mean, still doesn’t discount her former achievements. Even the worst people could still do amazing things. Not nearly as bad but Ben Carson is a good example of a gifted surgeon, separated the first conjoined twins, who also believed the earth is only a few thousand years old and works quite closely with RFK Jr. That doesn’t mean Ben Carson’s work in the medical field should be discounted. Same applies to her, I feel, her achievement as the first woman in space, even if she was chosen due to propaganda reasons, should not be discounted.
Why did she became a fascist in recent times, like, this needs to be studied.
She is alive in case y'all don't know and today she is a fascist, like, not an SJW "everyone I disagree with is a fascist" type of fascist, I mean an actual ideological fascist politician, you can check what she voted for in parliament and etc
Sure, the soviets liberated Poland and really left the country independent? Right? Right? You just changed one authoritarian regime for another. Stop being delusional
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Maybe she supports the Putin regime because it more closely resembles the USSR she actually lived in, as opposed to the idealized version this sub imagines?
The Soviet Union combined imperial aesthetics and socialism. These people were never socialists; for them, socialism means they personally live well. The second issue is a misunderstanding of the foundations of the Soviet Union. People saw a strong government and a powerful country and began to believe that the most important thing about the USSR was its imperial aesthetics, a strong army, international influence, and so on.
And since the USSR pursued a very patriotic cultural line, in their minds the USSR existed not as a bastion of socialism, but as an ordinary country (they hadn't read or understood Marx and Lenin).
And since they lacked an understanding of economics and socialism, but did embrace revanchism and patriotic education, they ended up with a Russian version of MAGA.
People want a strong country with a good standard of living, but they don't understand how this is connected to socialism, since their memories of socialism go back to the 1980s and beyond, when problems began in the USSR due to capitalist reforms.
UPD: Because of anti-communist propaganda, people see everything this way: First, there was the mighty, Beautiful Russian Empire, then came the German spy Lenin, poisoned people's minds with his propaganda, stabbed them in the back, and destroyed everything. Then came Stalin, who, thanks to his personal authoritarianism, became the "Red Monarch" and revived the country. Then Brezhnev kept everything in order. Then came the traitor Gorbachev, who wanted "Democracy," and the revolutionary Yeltsin destroyed everything, and then the Great Putin, as Emperor, and Stalin began to restore Russia again. And so now we must help him, defend our country, and oppose any changes, because all changes lead to ruin.
Marx was required reading for all university students, and all students in secondary and tertiary schools has compulsory courses on Marxism-Leninism. Soviet system was built to implement the programme of Marxism Leninism, and also put limits on nationalistic individuals who deviated from the orthodoxy, just like everybody else.
This was of little use. The study was perfunctory; people simply took the course and then forgot everything. Furthermore, instead of critically engaging with it, everyone was simply told that what the government was doing was genuine Marxism-Leninism. Even during Gorbachev's time.
Not in the 60s. Back then more peop genuinely believed. Until they didn't, but there were still plenty of people who still kept the faith in the future.
In the 1960s, everyone believed in socialism, but even then one could see that socialism was beginning to transform into something amorphous. Something like a welfare state. People sincerely believed not in socialism, but in their government, which they considered socialist. Marxist critique of what was happening was absent.
And why the state became so powerful? Who suppressed the Soviets and put party organs first? Who put dictatorship of proletariat in the first place as the ruling principle? Hint: it wasn't Stalin.
Same reason why people who never lived in the USSR fantasize about it.
Personal experience bias. If you look at Germany for example, the highest rates for neo nazi and anti-communists is from former GDR. While the ex-west german parts are the most socialists ones.
Humans fantasize of a better system wherever you live on. Either systems have benefits and horrible stuff. We never realise how good we have it, until we visit the place we praised. In some cases, it turns out that yes, your country is shittier than the other.
I still believe that communism will never function as long as the humans are part of the system. Only an unemotional being like a robot could make true communism work, since greed, corruption, biases, human errors and incompetence is what causes every single communism attempt to fail.
Ой бля, посмотрев как Терешкова справилась с полетом и на то какой национал-куколдкой и предательницей стала и хорошо, что американцы не стали с этим говном заморачиваться
Is this like the time the Soviets let the all-female mountaineering team up an alternate path of Everest that men at that specific summit attempt didnt want to go on due to awful weather?
Spoiler alert: they all fucking died including their legendary leader. Nice propaganda tankie
In my opinion, humanoid robots should be used instead of astronauts because they have all the benefits of a human while needing zero life support or training.
While those may change humanoïd robots have a not that good dexterity and cant operate beyond low earth orbit
For the training part the robots need to work around the clock to emulate the productivity of a human so now you need to train at least 6 dude (3 around the clock and 3 replacement)
Because the whole feminism sjw agenda in the us was cultivated by soviets through their agents of influence to subvert countries values and destroy USA from within, they even let this disaster of a woman to go into space not because she was better than other male candidates (she wasn’t ) but because they need to fuel up gender debates in western countries.
True. And each side wouldn’t have done so without the other side to drive them. Honestly, the fall of the USSR, as terrible as the USSR was for a lot of the people under its rule, was the worse thing to happen to space exploration and developing space tech.
Why has nobody been to the moon since the US? Easier and cheaper to exploit our own planet for resources and there’s no competition or propaganda to be used for it.
Look, both sides did extremely impressive things. That’s what matters. The Soviets did impressive feats early on, the Americans did impressive things later on. Neither side is reduced by the other.
Fun fact the first animal in space was fruit flies accomplished by the US in 1947, they also put a monkey in space in 1949 which was the first mammal in space. Laika was the first animal to orbit the Earth.
No. According to that, the N*zis won that. The americans still explore the space. Whil Yuri Gagarin can't buy himself anything from the fact, that the soviets went somewhere first. They couldn't reach the moon until they collapsed. So sending people out of the atmosphere wasn't special since the 50s so acting like they won because of it doesn't bring your point further.
Not by any stretch of imagination, you're talking nonsense.
Whil Yuri Gagarin can't buy himself anything from the fact, that the soviets went somewhere first.
Neither can Armstrong, are you trying to break some dumb takes record.
The americans still explore the space.
But can't go to the Moon, funny that. Why is it so ?
By that logic the Chinese invented the phones and EVs, the fact that deindustrialized and debased US made them first is irrelevant.
So sending people out of the atmosphere wasn't special since the 50s
It wasn't for the Russians but American astronauts had to use Soyuz and learn Russian because they couldn't get there by themselves for 30 years lmao. Makes you wonder how did they ever get there in the first place.
Are you just kidding? They were. The V2 Rocket by Werner von Braun was the first object to reach space in the 40s. So yeah. The Nazis were the first reaching space. That is known. No imagination needed. That was the base for both the american and the russian space program. It all based on n*zi technology. How is that nonsense?
By just showing how little you know about this history, you just broke any record of dumb takes. Holy hell. The audacity.
You just continued to type wrong stuff? The Nasa still can go to the moon. Why on earth you make up they couldn't? And neither phones or EV's where invented in America. What are you talking about? The only american thing here, is your education. The amount of wrong statements is just scary.
As the same why the russian don't go there. Because it's futile and they are done with the stuff the could do there. Wait, you actually thought they went there because of technical reasons? 😂😂😂
Dude. You're priceless.
No, it wasn't space exploration, it was the first time a human object reached space. Learn reading. It was the technology that founded space travel and both america and ussr used that technology. So it makes your dumb little comparison with China more bad, because neither USA invented EV's or phones, nor did Russia invent space travel. Read a book please.
As the same why the russian don't go there. Because it's futile
So the Russians invented and pioneered satellites, space stations, space suits, space probes - all the things that are used today, meaning they are relevant. 😎
Americans then did this, as you say yourself, futile thing not worth doing, basically an irrelevant public stunt that they aren't even capable of doing anymore and that's supposed to somehow make them great ? 🤡
The americans used Sojus rockets? What? No they didn't. And what 30 years? 3 years after the first sojus started, the americans reached the moon with theirs. It doesn't make me wonder how they got there. Because I know. But I wonder if you even know how to breath. Every point you made was fundamentally wrong. That's rare actually.
The americans used Sojus rockets? What? No they didn't.
Lmao google it.
American astronauts literally have to go to Kazakhstan where the Russian space center is so that Soyuz can take them up because they don't have a ride.
They had to learn Russian too. How did you not know this ? It was literally the only way for Americans to get into space after space shuttle ended but they also used it before, since 1995 at least. They only caught up in the last couple of years with SpaceX
Yeah. Googled it and it's zero that what you tried to make it look like. So the big space companies decided to work together more after the cold war was finally ended, so they use together the russian rocket launches. So what? You can read the actual reasons for it. They use it since 2002. And oh my god. You literally think USA is catching on with spacex? Are you officially gone insane? Do you even know what NASA is and what they do?
Valentina Tereshkova is a disgrace to Soviet cosmonautics. After her, Soviet women were not allowed into space for twenty years.
Let's not forget that she now loyally serves Russia's oligarchic, anti-communist regime, helping it pass anti-people laws. For example, she supported the reform to raise the retirement age by five years.
Unfortunately, the government doesn't need professionals. The government needs loyalists.
She's always been a bastard.
At least the retirement age in russia was far too low to be sustainable. And also sexist.
It also sounds like she wasn’t trained very properly, and that the preparations were not what they should have been.
Bad leadership!
Can you specifically say why
She was picked among other women, who had better physical and technical background, as a person that would be better for propaganda: working class origin, lost father, better 'public' skills.
Korolev was furious because of the results of the flight: they managed to return her alive but she failed the experiments that were planned because she couldn't eat and was tired. After the landing she traded cosmonaut food for local one despite that it was forbidden to eat before check up.
tldr; It was more PR victory rather than successful flight.
Thank you
Tereshkova's call sign in space was "Seagull". After her presidency, she was nicknamed "The Shitty Seagull" by Korolev's team
That was most of the Soviet Space program in a nutshell: propaganda first, science second.
Do you think it was different in the USA?
It wasn’t, but the space race did at least lead to a lot of technological progress and important discoveries.
More PR victory than successful is descriptive of a lot of the commie cope I get recommended from this sub.
Specifically why
https://www.gazeta [dot] r u/science/2018/06/16_a_11803717.shtml
What she do? Leave the exosphere dirty?
Also... Did Laika bring similar effect?
Hate her for her political opinions today, yes; but don't be so drunk on hate and misogyny to the point that it makes your claims unfactual, and clouds your vision. She was not incompetent, and her mission was not a failure to women. To claim so would be misogynist and ignorant of facts - in which case every one of you who make that claim are no better than the fascists that rule Russia now.
Here is the full story:
Valentina Tereshkova’s 1963 mission (Vostok 6) did not fail, nor did she commit any catastrophic error that justified excluding women from spaceflight. The idea that she “proved women couldn’t handle space” is historically inaccurate and misogynist.
The most serious incident on her flight was a navigation program error that would have raised her orbit instead of lowering it during re-entry. Crucially, this was not her mistake. It was a ground-programming error, which she herself identified and reported - this shows she was more than qualified!
Mission control confirmed it and uploaded corrected parameters. Soviet chief designer Sergei Korolev later acknowledged this. The incident was classified at the time, and later retellings quietly shifted blame onto Tereshkova instead of the system, because of misogyny.
She did experience space sickness and fatigue, but this was not unusual for early Vostok missions. Gherman Titov (Vostok-2) suffered worse space sickness, and several male cosmonauts had comparable or poorer medical performance. None of them were used as justification to bar men from flying again. But they were in the case of women - again, misogyny.
Tereshkova also clashed with Korolev and mission control. She questioned procedures and was not deferential in the way Soviet leadership expected. This hurt her standing internally, especially because she was already viewed as a political and symbolic selection, not a test pilot. These were personality and institutional issues, not evidence of incompetence. A good pilot is not one that blindly follows orders; because then when there is systematic error like was found on that flight - she and her male co-pilot would have died.
The long gap before the next Soviet woman flew (Svetlana Savitskaya in 1982) had nothing to do with Tereshkova’s performance, if anything, it was due to misogyny. But also, after the early propaganda victories of Vostok, the Soviet space programme shifted priorities toward long-duration missions, space stations, and military objectives. Leadership decided - incorrectly and unscientifically - that continuing to train women was unnecessary. Archival material and memoirs make clear that bureaucratic inertia and sexism, not flight data, drove this decision.
Finally, much of the modern hostility toward Tereshkova is retrospective. Her current political positions - particularly her strong support for Putin and constitutional changes - are unpopular, and many critics project this dislike backward by reframing her spaceflight as a failure. That reinterpretation is not supported by historical evidence.
Thank you for telling the whole story. I wonder if there will ever be a point humanity will stop being sexist.
No. It's the nature of ape: empathy to a partner, hate and aggression to a stranger. The only pill against it is Jesus Christ, but even He isn't a guarrantee.
The fuck sort of religious nonsense are you talking about? Get your predatory evangelism out of here. It is absolutely possible to be a good human being without religion
Now as a member of the State Duma, she is a Putinist legislator who proposed removing term limits for Putin and is heavily sanctioned for her support of the war in Ukraine.
I mean, still doesn’t discount her former achievements. Even the worst people could still do amazing things. Not nearly as bad but Ben Carson is a good example of a gifted surgeon, separated the first conjoined twins, who also believed the earth is only a few thousand years old and works quite closely with RFK Jr. That doesn’t mean Ben Carson’s work in the medical field should be discounted. Same applies to her, I feel, her achievement as the first woman in space, even if she was chosen due to propaganda reasons, should not be discounted.
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very funny
Funny, yes.
But also true
More than a quarter of the world's population lives in communist countries, if it were as bad as you say that wouldn't be possible.
How does it feel falling for decades old propaganda?
OMG you cannot seriously still believe China is communist
"It's not the real communism" 🤡
If China is communist, then so is EU.
EU is not communist, you don't know literally anything. Takes on this sub and Reddit generally are just baffling.
"It's not the real communism" 🤡
EU is the real maoist project. cope capitalist
There are no former communists in the Russian State Duma. There are former party workers. The real communists are also their victims.
I will say that one of the best things the Bolsheviks ever did was liquidate every communist as soon as they came to power
Still there lol
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Why did she became a fascist in recent times, like, this needs to be studied.
She is alive in case y'all don't know and today she is a fascist, like, not an SJW "everyone I disagree with is a fascist" type of fascist, I mean an actual ideological fascist politician, you can check what she voted for in parliament and etc
What the hell happened
After communism collapsed in Eastern Europe it seems like half their membership just became right-wing and the other half just became Social Democrats
wtf this is so dissapointing
wait until you find out who was the prominent rocket scientist that make the US reach the moon.
Nah, that guy was always a nazi.
What is her excuse? She grew up in the USSR her entire life.
You think the USSR was actually anti fascist? How cute.
The soviets here friendly with the nazis… what u on about?
That’s why they killed more than anyone else
Let’s not forget pre war history… rewritten history to your liking doesn’t change the facts
You mean when they saved half of Poland?
Sure, the soviets liberated Poland and really left the country independent? Right? Right? You just changed one authoritarian regime for another. Stop being delusional
Saved 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im sure the officers and intellectuals massacred at Katyn didnt feel very saved, nor did the ex government replaced by a communist puppet
Well, they really hated Nazis
Because she was never a communist at all, she was just some random woman they plucked out of a factory.
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Maybe she supports the Putin regime because it more closely resembles the USSR she actually lived in, as opposed to the idealized version this sub imagines?
Exactly.
Looking at the comments, why are so many people who lived in the USSR and worked for some of their departments now fascist? What's up with that?
The Soviet Union combined imperial aesthetics and socialism. These people were never socialists; for them, socialism means they personally live well. The second issue is a misunderstanding of the foundations of the Soviet Union. People saw a strong government and a powerful country and began to believe that the most important thing about the USSR was its imperial aesthetics, a strong army, international influence, and so on.
And since the USSR pursued a very patriotic cultural line, in their minds the USSR existed not as a bastion of socialism, but as an ordinary country (they hadn't read or understood Marx and Lenin).
And since they lacked an understanding of economics and socialism, but did embrace revanchism and patriotic education, they ended up with a Russian version of MAGA.
People want a strong country with a good standard of living, but they don't understand how this is connected to socialism, since their memories of socialism go back to the 1980s and beyond, when problems began in the USSR due to capitalist reforms.
UPD: Because of anti-communist propaganda, people see everything this way: First, there was the mighty, Beautiful Russian Empire, then came the German spy Lenin, poisoned people's minds with his propaganda, stabbed them in the back, and destroyed everything. Then came Stalin, who, thanks to his personal authoritarianism, became the "Red Monarch" and revived the country. Then Brezhnev kept everything in order. Then came the traitor Gorbachev, who wanted "Democracy," and the revolutionary Yeltsin destroyed everything, and then the Great Putin, as Emperor, and Stalin began to restore Russia again. And so now we must help him, defend our country, and oppose any changes, because all changes lead to ruin.
Marx was required reading for all university students, and all students in secondary and tertiary schools has compulsory courses on Marxism-Leninism. Soviet system was built to implement the programme of Marxism Leninism, and also put limits on nationalistic individuals who deviated from the orthodoxy, just like everybody else.
This was of little use. The study was perfunctory; people simply took the course and then forgot everything. Furthermore, instead of critically engaging with it, everyone was simply told that what the government was doing was genuine Marxism-Leninism. Even during Gorbachev's time.
Not in the 60s. Back then more peop genuinely believed. Until they didn't, but there were still plenty of people who still kept the faith in the future.
In the 1960s, everyone believed in socialism, but even then one could see that socialism was beginning to transform into something amorphous. Something like a welfare state. People sincerely believed not in socialism, but in their government, which they considered socialist. Marxist critique of what was happening was absent.
And why the state became so powerful? Who suppressed the Soviets and put party organs first? Who put dictatorship of proletariat in the first place as the ruling principle? Hint: it wasn't Stalin.
A culture of brown nosing
Best opinion.
Many people only support the dominant ideology for their own benefit and not because they genuinely believe in it.
Because people in this subreddit don't realize that the majority of people in the USSR didn't care about socialism
The whole reason the USSR fell. Not a lot of actual communists. Communists in name only.
Same reason why people who never lived in the USSR fantasize about it.
Personal experience bias. If you look at Germany for example, the highest rates for neo nazi and anti-communists is from former GDR. While the ex-west german parts are the most socialists ones.
Humans fantasize of a better system wherever you live on. Either systems have benefits and horrible stuff. We never realise how good we have it, until we visit the place we praised. In some cases, it turns out that yes, your country is shittier than the other.
I still believe that communism will never function as long as the humans are part of the system. Only an unemotional being like a robot could make true communism work, since greed, corruption, biases, human errors and incompetence is what causes every single communism attempt to fail.
I have to say, Korolev (I think) was very displeased with her and wouldn't allow any more women to fly. Sad.
She was a true inspiration! Like the Soviet women snipers in WWII.
*was* is the keyword
Like the Snipers in WWII?
No like, Valentina is still alive and today she is a fascist politician in Russia, unironically. Look her up
I was referring to before the USSR ended.
Hence " "was" is the keyword"
https://preview.redd.it/qtsrrwyndl8g1.jpeg?width=403&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5850d48977b0b7401979347bda615767eea35e9f
Maybe she and the others, like KGB Putin, are just die-hard Communist and this is the horse show theory. Maybe in the end, it was all the same.
And Korolev said after: "As long as I'm alive, no woman will fly into space again!"
Fair cop.
The "Soviets" are busy right now getting their asses kicked by Ukraine with USA hand me downs. Are you all out of your fucking minds!?!?.
Dead culture, dead system, dead nation.
alternatively, the “Soviets” are heroically defending their homeland from invasion (Ukraine was an SSR too)
I love defending my homeland by crossing into another country and taking their land.
Reminiscent of Hitlers defense of germany in 1939...
You couldn’t read one single sentence?
That’s why you apply to multiple jobs guys if they don’t hire you in one place you can always get hired at another
TereSHkova, not TereCHkova.
Валентине Терешковой за полёт космический Англичане подарили хуй автоматический.
https://preview.redd.it/n7t225kavw8g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3cba36c1f0a5b5547f18ca1961e9fdd523c09fa
Well it must be americcan propaganda trying to make her look bad so they could justify themselves not allowing women in the space program
What happend in 1969?
Nothing relevant or worth repeating apparently.
Ой бля, посмотрев как Терешкова справилась с полетом и на то какой национал-куколдкой и предательницей стала и хорошо, что американцы не стали с этим говном заморачиваться
Is this like the time the Soviets let the all-female mountaineering team up an alternate path of Everest that men at that specific summit attempt didnt want to go on due to awful weather?
Spoiler alert: they all fucking died including their legendary leader. Nice propaganda tankie
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In my opinion, humanoid robots should be used instead of astronauts because they have all the benefits of a human while needing zero life support or training.
While those may change humanoïd robots have a not that good dexterity and cant operate beyond low earth orbit For the training part the robots need to work around the clock to emulate the productivity of a human so now you need to train at least 6 dude (3 around the clock and 3 replacement)
crazy that this sub instantly leeched on the whole space race thing the second they discovered that one image that i saw for the 112th time
The continuation of the USSR, because that is what Russia is, is still murdering people and throwing it’s on population in the meat grinder everyday.
Ok so you're pro slavery if we talk about continuation
In what way?
He's probably a white guy from America
Well that settles it.
I'm glad they flew her to space. It's a disgrace she managed to return from there tho
Because the whole feminism sjw agenda in the us was cultivated by soviets through their agents of influence to subvert countries values and destroy USA from within, they even let this disaster of a woman to go into space not because she was better than other male candidates (she wasn’t ) but because they need to fuel up gender debates in western countries.
Soviets are gone since 1990, buddy, and you still blame them for "Le Cultural Marxism that's destroying our country". Lmao.
KGB is still strong and in business, comrade!
Yeah, all those KGB guys controlling your congress.
KGB controls a large portion of npcs that elect the Congress, the President and everything in between.
Also media, remember how you're not allowed to criticize KGB
Have ussr ever managed to land on a moon?
Has the US managed to land on Venus?
Pioneer Venus?
He was talking about people. But if we extend it to probes did the USSR ever leave our solar system?
Personally, I think both sides achieved equally impressive goals. The USSRs early successes helped spur American successes.
Each side did things the other didn’t.
Agreed
True. And each side wouldn’t have done so without the other side to drive them. Honestly, the fall of the USSR, as terrible as the USSR was for a lot of the people under its rule, was the worse thing to happen to space exploration and developing space tech.
Why has nobody been to the moon since the US? Easier and cheaper to exploit our own planet for resources and there’s no competition or propaganda to be used for it.
One managed to send robotic probes and one managed to do a crew landing and then comeback... I wonder who won
https://preview.redd.it/d0jz01lhfk8g1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f45fd8e94f71165d4994a3c2049fabfd3bc5601b
Look, both sides did extremely impressive things. That’s what matters. The Soviets did impressive feats early on, the Americans did impressive things later on. Neither side is reduced by the other.
Fun fact the first animal in space was fruit flies accomplished by the US in 1947, they also put a monkey in space in 1949 which was the first mammal in space. Laika was the first animal to orbit the Earth.
Interesting!
Any reason that graphic leaves out the Pioneer and Voyager probes, among others?
Not sure, I think it should include more us programs too.
Because it is biased, and works as propaganda to teenagers that dont know better
I wonder which achievement is more advanced... And who has a stronger presence in space right now
Stop moving the goalposts. We are talking about the space race as a whole.
China ?
Good old Russian whataboutism at work...
I just did what you did: listing an arbitrary goal that one side managed to achieve and that the other didn’t.
That wasn't me. Please keep up and pay attention.
You know they actually were the first to land there right?
And 6 more years until ussr managed to produce toilet paper. 😂
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Was there no nuclear fallout from the Atom bomb tests or even using the atom bomb to massacre civilians?
Aaand it was a mistake
And look who won the space race.
The USSR lmao.
https://preview.redd.it/xyjtg8gljk8g1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d9fa44ac4a5cbc74d719990e64bd2017bfdac3a
Not at all😂
Soviets went to space first
But didn't win the space race.
Getting there first is literally how you win the race.
Americans be like:
"Let's do a 100m race"
Soviets: "Ok"
America loses
"Ok, I meant to that fence, let's race to that fence" 😄
No. According to that, the N*zis won that. The americans still explore the space. Whil Yuri Gagarin can't buy himself anything from the fact, that the soviets went somewhere first. They couldn't reach the moon until they collapsed. So sending people out of the atmosphere wasn't special since the 50s so acting like they won because of it doesn't bring your point further.
Not by any stretch of imagination, you're talking nonsense.
Neither can Armstrong, are you trying to break some dumb takes record.
But can't go to the Moon, funny that. Why is it so ?
By that logic the Chinese invented the phones and EVs, the fact that deindustrialized and debased US made them first is irrelevant.
It wasn't for the Russians but American astronauts had to use Soyuz and learn Russian because they couldn't get there by themselves for 30 years lmao. Makes you wonder how did they ever get there in the first place.
Are you just kidding? They were. The V2 Rocket by Werner von Braun was the first object to reach space in the 40s. So yeah. The Nazis were the first reaching space. That is known. No imagination needed. That was the base for both the american and the russian space program. It all based on n*zi technology. How is that nonsense? By just showing how little you know about this history, you just broke any record of dumb takes. Holy hell. The audacity. You just continued to type wrong stuff? The Nasa still can go to the moon. Why on earth you make up they couldn't? And neither phones or EV's where invented in America. What are you talking about? The only american thing here, is your education. The amount of wrong statements is just scary.
Shooting a thing up and having it fall down isn't space exploration lmao. So why don't Americans go to the Moon anymore ?
As the same why the russian don't go there. Because it's futile and they are done with the stuff the could do there. Wait, you actually thought they went there because of technical reasons? 😂😂😂 Dude. You're priceless. No, it wasn't space exploration, it was the first time a human object reached space. Learn reading. It was the technology that founded space travel and both america and ussr used that technology. So it makes your dumb little comparison with China more bad, because neither USA invented EV's or phones, nor did Russia invent space travel. Read a book please.
So the Russians invented and pioneered satellites, space stations, space suits, space probes - all the things that are used today, meaning they are relevant. 😎
Americans then did this, as you say yourself, futile thing not worth doing, basically an irrelevant public stunt that they aren't even capable of doing anymore and that's supposed to somehow make them great ? 🤡
The americans used Sojus rockets? What? No they didn't. And what 30 years? 3 years after the first sojus started, the americans reached the moon with theirs. It doesn't make me wonder how they got there. Because I know. But I wonder if you even know how to breath. Every point you made was fundamentally wrong. That's rare actually.
Lmao google it.
American astronauts literally have to go to Kazakhstan where the Russian space center is so that Soyuz can take them up because they don't have a ride.
They had to learn Russian too. How did you not know this ? It was literally the only way for Americans to get into space after space shuttle ended but they also used it before, since 1995 at least. They only caught up in the last couple of years with SpaceX
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soyuz_missions#Soyuz_TMA_(2002%E2%80%932012)
Yeah. Googled it and it's zero that what you tried to make it look like. So the big space companies decided to work together more after the cold war was finally ended, so they use together the russian rocket launches. So what? You can read the actual reasons for it. They use it since 2002. And oh my god. You literally think USA is catching on with spacex? Are you officially gone insane? Do you even know what NASA is and what they do?
Yes, because the Russians have LEO capable crewed spacecrafts (Soyuz) and Americans don't.
I know they don't have a manned spacecraft for LEO.
Yeah. The ussr didn't win the space race. Well spotted.