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i only add an indexer when they have a lifetime offer, so far: nzbgeek, althub, and most recently with their black friday deal: ninjacentral. i think i'm done though, i've been able to find everything i need with these 3.
honestly haven't had it long enough to have useful stats on prowlarr. searching through reddit, people with geek and alt said it was worth it. figured it has good enough reviews and i'd have 3, which seems like a good point to be at for indexers.
Not sure why you were down voted... I think this is perfectly good advice. Though some context like in another of your posts this tread would have been good :)
As you said in another post... Some indexers seem to specialize or have more results based on content, quality or type.
Indexers in general also share a lot of the same content, so each you get results in diminishing returns and increased cost "per grab".
So ultimately it comes to how much are you willing to pay for said unique or edge cases with each new indexer you add.
Honestly the personal time learning and testing to pick the most efficient indexer combination for you is probably more expensive than just getting a lot of indexers. I should know, I have spent hours research and testing over the last couple of years and STILL not 100% I am understanding or doing it right (but I am like 85%)
Out of curiosity, How does the monetization of these unknown indexers work? Do they have lifetime? Or just annual sub? Or are they free to use but with donations?
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I try to get in all of them but don't pay for all of them. Got a few lifetimes and rank them high. The rest are ranked low and I just use up the free credits.
Then watch out for sales and see what's worth spending on depending on how my primary indexers are doing.
I have seven. Some work better when looking for older content, others get the newest stuff earlier, some simply have web interfaces I like, and when looking for, for example, the best quality of a particular thing, sometimes I only find it on one of the seven. And then there's the possibility of finding crossposts for things that wont complete.
What do you mean by ‘not working for you’? Do they go down at times or they actually don’t have complete data at times? I have geek and geek alone and I always thought a one good indexer is all you need? Is that not how it is?
let's say you search for something, 1 indexer might have the nzb you're looking for, and the other might not. The nzbs you find on each indexer are not the exact same article
From what I've seen, you generally have a wider range of results of what you're looking for the more indexers you have. And for some folks, redundancy is important.
If you're happy with Geek, you're not a heavy user and aren't running into any issues, then you should be fine. If you start seeing issues, then maybe address looking for an alternative indexer at that time.
I always thought a one good indexer is all you need?
If it works for you it is all you need, I use one indexer for 99.9% of all content I download. And then sometimes I check 1 or more free ones for the 0.1% I can't find.
Every indexer has different content to some degree, some specialise a bit more than others, some have some unique releases. For instance I have quite a few and added two more this year. When I added them they found 7 pieces of content that were not available on my other indexers downloaded straight away.
+1 to this suggestion... I think 2-3 well selected indexers is probably the "sweet" spot for most.
Each indexer gets more expensive due to diminishing returns and overlap content.
There is I believe room for optimization, but it really does come at the cost of time trying to learn and time to test/figure it out... Thus making buy as many as you can afford just as good a solution to the problem :)
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It's less about how many and more about if you're finding the things you're looking for on any given indexer. Aside from that, success rate and response time matter.
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3-5 is more than enough IMO. A lot of the content they have overlap with each other.
It depends on if you want older or more obscure content. I have one lifetime, two paid, and 4-5 free indexers, but I mainly use Slug and Geek.
Are you missing anything?
I'm using Planet and Geek and haven't missed a single thing in years. So 2 is my answer.
Same two for years. I added a free crawler account recently and find it useful.
Yes
I personally like slug and ninja, but test it out for yourself. Do you get the NZBs you need with these two? If so, why change things?
i only add an indexer when they have a lifetime offer, so far: nzbgeek, althub, and most recently with their black friday deal: ninjacentral. i think i'm done though, i've been able to find everything i need with these 3.
I have the same approach, but didn't purchase ninja. How often do they have a result that the other two miss ? Debating whether I need it or not
honestly haven't had it long enough to have useful stats on prowlarr. searching through reddit, people with geek and alt said it was worth it. figured it has good enough reviews and i'd have 3, which seems like a good point to be at for indexers.
Cool I have althub and geek, I'll try to look for the next ninja lifetime deal
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As many ad you can get / afford is my view @
Not sure why you were down voted... I think this is perfectly good advice. Though some context like in another of your posts this tread would have been good :)
As you said in another post... Some indexers seem to specialize or have more results based on content, quality or type.
Indexers in general also share a lot of the same content, so each you get results in diminishing returns and increased cost "per grab".
So ultimately it comes to how much are you willing to pay for said unique or edge cases with each new indexer you add.
Honestly the personal time learning and testing to pick the most efficient indexer combination for you is probably more expensive than just getting a lot of indexers. I should know, I have spent hours research and testing over the last couple of years and STILL not 100% I am understanding or doing it right (but I am like 85%)
Thus get as many as you can afford!!!!
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To each their own I have way too many. Probably the first two would be fine. But here are the stats from my nzbHydra2
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Yeah....same situation here. Collecting them is more of a hobby. Still hoping to get in some of the "un-named" ones someday.
Out of curiosity, How does the monetization of these unknown indexers work? Do they have lifetime? Or just annual sub? Or are they free to use but with donations?
Only familiar with one unnamed. Off to poke around now.
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ideal amount of indexes=all
I try to get in all of them but don't pay for all of them. Got a few lifetimes and rank them high. The rest are ranked low and I just use up the free credits.
Then watch out for sales and see what's worth spending on depending on how my primary indexers are doing.
One good one for 90 tot 99.9% for all your needs and then 1 extra as backup if you want.
My three that works for me drunkenslug, Althub and geek.
Wait, I only have one. What is the reason to have several?
I have seven. Some work better when looking for older content, others get the newest stuff earlier, some simply have web interfaces I like, and when looking for, for example, the best quality of a particular thing, sometimes I only find it on one of the seven. And then there's the possibility of finding crossposts for things that wont complete.
Like Pokémon, gotta collect them all
In case the one you have is not working for you.
What do you mean by ‘not working for you’? Do they go down at times or they actually don’t have complete data at times? I have geek and geek alone and I always thought a one good indexer is all you need? Is that not how it is?
let's say you search for something, 1 indexer might have the nzb you're looking for, and the other might not. The nzbs you find on each indexer are not the exact same article
From what I've seen, you generally have a wider range of results of what you're looking for the more indexers you have. And for some folks, redundancy is important.
If you're happy with Geek, you're not a heavy user and aren't running into any issues, then you should be fine. If you start seeing issues, then maybe address looking for an alternative indexer at that time.
If it works for you it is all you need, I use one indexer for 99.9% of all content I download. And then sometimes I check 1 or more free ones for the 0.1% I can't find.
Every indexer has different content to some degree, some specialise a bit more than others, some have some unique releases. For instance I have quite a few and added two more this year. When I added them they found 7 pieces of content that were not available on my other indexers downloaded straight away.
That's why I said "if it works for you" and otherwise get (an) extra one(s).
Check this out https://usenet.rexum.space/tree#map
There are a handful of Usenet backbones that all the providers use. There is no real benefit to subscribing to the same backbone multiple times.
the question is about indexers and not usernet
Right you are. My bad.
As many as you can afford. 2-3 should be enough for the average user
+1 to this suggestion... I think 2-3 well selected indexers is probably the "sweet" spot for most.
Each indexer gets more expensive due to diminishing returns and overlap content.
There is I believe room for optimization, but it really does come at the cost of time trying to learn and time to test/figure it out... Thus making buy as many as you can afford just as good a solution to the problem :)
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Overkill, waste of funds
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Take all and keep the three that works for what you want
what ever you can get you hands on
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And cheap!
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It's less about how many and more about if you're finding the things you're looking for on any given indexer. Aside from that, success rate and response time matter.
all of them
This is DEFINITELY the way! 😂
This is the way