So we ban hemp based THC, and reschedule cannabis to put it in the hands of pharmaceutical companies and bad faith practitioners. Awesome. This country rules.
I care more about the weed reclassification than the files at this point. What changes for me if they release the files? Do we trust they are the real or full inclusive files? I don’t.
Seriously though. The “files” get released and what changes in your life? Anything? And you really trust they weren’t modified to protect names of powerful people in place right now? You born yesterday?
What changes in my life is my knowledge of the world around me.
Do I believe everything I see? Believe it or not, I don’t, but I’m certain every photo released is NOT totally doctored and fake.
If I see a CEO of a company I shop at in those photos, I won’t shop there. If I see a politician in those photos my friend says he’d vote for, I’ll show him, maybe he won’t vote for him. A butterfly flaps it’s wings…
Keep your apathy to yourself, or don’t, I’m sure you don’t have much influence as the apathetic usually don’t. I see why weed classification matters more to you then what the ruling class is involved in and getting exposed for.
Nothing changes for you if they reclassify weed either. Reclassification≠declassification or legalization. It would still be federally illegal, they would just finally put weed in the same category as cocaine and heroin(schedule 2).
Marijuana is already in the same schedule as heroin. Heroin is a Schedule I drug. And the plan is to reclassify it as Schedule III and not Schedule II, which puts it below cocaine and at the level of codeine or ketamine. This actually does come with a different level of federal regulation.
All of this is in the free article linked in the post.
So the same people in possession of the files who are likely in said files are going to out themselves? No. No justice will be served by edited and redacted files getting released. That’s all I’m saying.
I agree that that's exactly what's going to happen, not caring doesn't change that for the better though. It just allows the lies and deceit to be perpetuated further, and that's good for no one. Times like these are when giving up and not caring does the most damage.
I feel the same way to be honest. It's not really what changes, but what would happen if they do get released, do I believe that the people who have seen them will suddenly be like yep we should finally go after X or Y? Nothing ever happens.
The biggest thing I would love though, would be not hearing about it, or seeing it spammed everywhere all the time. People like to cry bot and suggest AI prompts for what they believe are bot accounts, but you have the same "person" posting information about the files and no one says a thing.
I care about not living in a society where people who traffic young girls hold office and people who get pulled over with weed are sitting in jail.
I care about having a government whose motivations are not influenced by rich and powerful oligarchs who have compromising evidence against our elected officials to further screw us over.
Release all the files and hold everybody to account.
Reclassification doesn’t mean declassification or legalization. It means changing weed from schedule 1 to schedule 2. It would still be federally illegal.
I'll believe it when I see it, biden ordered a reclassification like what? 2 years ago? The DEA has dragged their feet and put off rescheduling time and time again when pressed, they've had plenty of interviews, even the FDA sent them a recommendation on the declassification, time and time again the DEA has been a little bitch about the whole thing.
Those files are going to be released no matter what, what we can squeeze out of that orange toothpaste tube before he strokes after realizing he can't distract people from his shit history is icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, if this one makes it to SCROTUS they will have no problem ruling it unconstitutional. Then Drumpf can say that he tried, even though he knew it would fail because the people pulling his strings ABSOLUTELY do not want to make it legal
desperate behavior from a desperate administration. even if they stumble into doing the right thing on weed, it doesn't undo all the harm this presidency has done in other ways.
I don't disagree at all, but I'll take progress on cannabis reform whichever way it comes. This rescheduling actually was started by Biden back in 2022 but he never finalized it. Now Trump will be able to give it the small push that the process needed to get across the finish line while taking full credit for it, just like he always does.
All of those departments are supposed to be independent of the president. That's why Biden didn't pressure the FDA DEA to complete the rescheduling. They are independent agencies, and they are supposed to make independent decisions.
The DEA is legally bound to defer to HHS on the scientific and medical basis for how drugs get scheduled. HHS (through FDA, like you said) issued a 252 page report detailing why cannabis should be rescheduled from 1 to 3. DEA has been sitting on this since 2024, slow walking the process in the hopes that it would die off and never get finalized. HHS even had to create a new test to determine accepted medical use as the DEA's 5 part test was specifically designed to never allow cannabis to pass, ever. Let's not act like the DEA is somehow an innocent party here. They're a corrupt organization that has immense power to both enforce drug laws and determine how drugs get scheduled.
That was on Congress to enforce, though, not the Executive. The Executive can legally appoint and remove agency heads, but they are not supposed to affect the outcome of policy decision.
Presidents are not experts in any and all subjects. That is why we have experts to make decisions like this.
Do I wish they would legalize cannabis? Of course.
Do I want it bad enough to welcome an authoritarian government? No, not even a little bit.
For academics it would be a major win. It allows federally funded institutions to complete research on cannabis without a DEA Schedule I research registration. That registration itself requires the lab to, before applying to the DEA, obtain necessary institutional approvals (e.g., from an Institutional Review Board (IRB) for human studies or IACUC for animal studies) and a state license or permit for controlled substances. Then there is a federal application (DEA Form 225) which has its own hoops to jump through. That then gets reviewed by the DEA and they complete an inspection of the research facility, which must follow all of the stringent regulatory and security policies for a schedule I research license. It’s then only valid for 12 months, is site and protocol specific, and the record keeping requirements are extensive and strict as well. All of that goes away if cannabis is moved to schedule III.
Bidens a moron for not finishing it, dont downplay his fuckup of handing one of the most broadly popular ideas to a literal fascist. Low info voters gonna eat this up.
100%. That is what I worry about most when they win back power. They are gonna have a historic blue wave / majorities next election or two and then do absolute fuck all with it.
Yeah Dems aren't gonna do shit if they win again. It's all part of the plan.
Republicans do all the bad shit and move the Overton window to the right. Dems do nothing, keep Republican policies, and prevent progressives from moving it back to the left.
Sure the Dems are less bad, but they're just the other wing of the same bird
We need to put the pressure on them and vote in progressives. The "establishment" Dems/DNC are basically 90s Republicans and don't want to give up power until they're dead (seriously get your shit together on this Dems)
The progressives of the party have been the loudest about fighting against Trump and doing the work, the rest - like fucking Schumer - keep handing their "colleagues" a win for NOTHING in return.
My main worry is that the establishment Dems will ride the wave of progressive policies and leaders to power and then neuter any campaign promise on those progressive policies. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm already infuriated just thinking about it.
Many states have trigger laws that immediately go into effect when a drug is rescheduled at the federal level. For example, Texas would have 30 days to update their scheduling of cannabis at the state level to match the updated federal scheduling. Many red states hide behind the current schedule 1 federal status as reason for why they shouldn't enact medical or legal programs; that will now go away.
Schedule 3 also means the feds recognize that cannabis has medical value. This could result in federal medical cannabis regulations, eg you can travel safely across state lines with your medicine and medical card, just like any other prescription. You would be exempt from THC drug tests as a federal or military employee. There would be way more research on the medical benefits of cannabis as a whole as researching a schedule 1 drug is a lot more difficult than schedule 3.
Prices will also likely come down in medical and legal states, as after rescheduling, the medical/legal operators would no longer have to pay 280e tax which currently forces them to pay 70%+ tax rates. Now they'll be able to pay the same tax rates as other businesses, which means less of a cost burden to pass onto consumers
I want to start this by saying in absolutely NO way do i approve of trump... With that said i don't care if someone "started" something, they had 4 years to figure that shit out... Just like every other president that has told us they were going to do something and hasn't. If there was some level of really trying to fight for it sure, like if the president of any year went before congress/DEA for more than 1 minute and basically said "you guys HAVE to figure this out and we aren't leaving the room until it is..." than sure i would say that president has started something... But the fact that you have 4 years in office and absolutely nothing actually gets done is extremely telling, that is the entire job of the president is to have us work together and be a leader regardless of left or right ideology. To me the GOP and the DNC have completely failed the american people and idk why anyone is sticking up for either side, i mean the argument is always "it's the lesser of two evils" which is probably the greatest propaganda that has ever come out, that in a completely free and open election there are only two organizations you could possibly pick from, when objectively there are more options.
There's lots of things that can't be done, that have been done since this administration got their second chance.
However, he won't be doing it directly with the EO, and instead the EO will be an order for the agencies to reclassify it. So he won't be, he's just using his executive powers to order the agencies under the executive branch to do it.
Agree. My state is finally legal and finally actually opening dispensaries. I would gladly trade all of that to undo the damage done over Trump's two terms.
maybe i'm ignorant but i don't give a flying fuck about reclassification. decriminalization and legalization is all that truly matters. if it can affect my job and my freedom still, this doesn't get my support.
maybe i'm ignorant but i don't give a flying fuck about reclassification.
Yes because as a schedule 1 narc, at the moment, THC is the same as driving around with bath salts (according to our government). Any step is important
I hear this all the time and I ask what fucking research do you think is still needed for legalization. What new data point do you think we don’t have that will change anything. Lack of research isn’t what’s stopping legalization. Republicans in congress are. Reclassifying not only not only not going to move the needle in any way shape or form.
Research into marijuana, and all drugs, is important. It's not just about legalization.
It absolutely will move the needle. That expression means a small, minute change. That's what this is. Will it cause it to be legal? Not necessarily. But it will move the needle.
Multiple states and the nations of Canada and Germany are already doing studies with weed. Most are just documenting things we already knew in a professional setting. Nothing of value will change.
That’s not how science works. Just because you think you know something doesn’t mean you don’t test it, literally the core principle of the scientific method.
In my opinion, because it's harder to put the genie back in the bottle.
Smoking cessation is the largest benefit to public health outcomes since the discovery of antibiotics. However, since we've had a history of cigarettes being legal, it's almost impossible to have any type of prohibition regardless of the studies.
Cigarette smoking doesn't just impact you. Second hand smoke can affect never smokers, for example. But it was only 2010 when the last bars in the US stopped allowing indoor smoking.
Taking a measured approach here is good, because we truthfully do not know what would come with full legalization without regulation. We've seen Vitamin A put in THC pens as a stabilizer that killed folks. If we just opened it up, it's these businesses that are in it for profit that will end up killing folks, and being legally allowed to do so.
I don't necessarily like that it's Scheduled III, but even at that schedule it'd still be allowed via a prescription, and would be excused from a drug panel with a prescription (like having a codeine prescription or an Adderall prescription). It would also allow to have guard rails up that the cannabis has to stay regulated, especially if oversight is established.
Will reducing scheduling without full legalization hurt the innovation of the plant? Maybe so. But I'd hope with scheduling it would start to protect strains so those who do use it medicinally can actually have a strain they can obtain to provide the relief they're looking for. Just like someone getting a specific anti-depressant over another. If it's the wild west of "weed", we will lose those benefits in favor of recreation.
Everything is important. It’s not that you’re ignorant it’s that your very fair anger over existing inequity with the way this issue is treated is getting in the way of understanding of how something like this will vastly improve the entire atmosphere around marijuana. It will allow for more research, more opportunity, and, in turn, eventually a much different broad public perception of marijuana. That different broad public perception is the only way we are ever going to fix the parts you’re rightfully angry about.
1, it's an executive order it doesn't matter if you do or don't support it
2, any progress is progress. Having weed get rescheduled could at least mean lesser sentences for those caught with it, or further decriminalization.
Very hard to decriminalize/legalize without reclassification. And really federal classification is a huge part of the legalization issue. There are other federal elements but suffice it to say that individual states will become the final arbiters just like they are with alcohol currently.
It also gives the supreme court more room to not make weed use prevent someone from owning firearms. That may be the only silver lining and its not even automatic.
There's other solutions for that, Rep Mast has a bill to just blanket give everyone who's a marijuana user their firearms rights back. I'd take that solution before I allow pharmaceutical companies to patent individual strains any day. It's called the Gram act
True but the path through congress isnt an easy one, and it's not exactly like we have a choice on which one will happen. We vote every two to four years and hope the people we voted for didnt lie, thats all we get. We cant even recall our federal reps, its actually illegal.
When Biden tried doing this years ago the DEA slow walked it until he was out of office, then Trump put it on hold. He’s bringing it back because it’s politically convenient right now to use as a distraction technique. I don’t give him any credit whatsoever. If anything, this is a clear ploy to make it easier for people to sign up for ICE. They functionally removed any requirements for joining even the FBI (no more college requirement, halved training time), why not also eliminate pot drug testing for federal law enforcement? I don’t actually think it’s the end of the world if some Fed agents want to smoke weed, but the Trump admin is not doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.
I wouldn't be surprised if the "reclassification" to a new schedule. Schedule 0, the devil's substance list. Considering the government is actually insane.
I was called a delusional idiot on this sub for predicting exactly this like a month ago, lol. It wasn't super hard to see coming when you see his polling numbers, he's trying to pump Gen Z numbers after theyve collapsed post 2024.
His goal isn't actually legalize marijuana though, it's to bring some of the Gen Z male vote share that he gained last election back to his camp since Gen Z has been one of the cohorts his polls have declined the most with. Also, he's lazy, and signing an EO is significantly less effort then getting the Republican Congress critters to actually legalize weed. The Whitehouse press release is more important than the real world results.
You're not wrong there. WH is 90% optics, 10% results, and most of those results are meant to harm someone or get revenge. Like any disaster, you don't waste the potential for some sort of gains where you can get them.
I honestly dont think Gen Z is gonna actually care that much about a reschedule. Its confusing as to what that will even do for people at the moment. If he was gonna fully legalize it, that might do it.
No, please leave weed alone until someone who actually understands why we use weed is willing to get it done. This is a business move to allow big cannabis to move products across state lines without breaking the law. This administration does nothing for us, why does one believe they’d start now. This isn’t the legalization that we so deserve, this is corporate legalization to allow them to tax us, and sell us low potency trash weed. Rant over.
I refuse to believe this until i see it. Wildly unpopular decision amongst conservatives from an administration that has a hard on for stopping people from doing drugs. Imo, this is not gunna happen idc how credible the sources are lol
You should be. This is their way to not only revoke the bill that allows the states to operate freely, but also look good and gain support from the public. Its win win for them and lose lose for you. Now that it would be under fda regulations, only legal, licensed pharmacies could sell it, and only sell what and in what forms the fda approves of, if anything. Just because it would become a schedule 3, dont mean that they will actually approve it for anything, or what you may currently use it for.
And you know things like flower and concentrate are gone. So is the vast majority of edibles. We may get nothing more than low dose tinctures, lozenges and pills, most likely fully or semi synthetizied. Like how we already do and have since the 80s such as with marinol. Thats if we get anything at all. And what will come will come from one if a handful of large corporations and investors. Like whose stocks have recently spiked.
Your local stores and farms are gonna be gone. Your edibles and flower, gone. Home growing gone. You will take what they give you, if anything, and like it. All pushed out by "big pharma" who may i remind you you were actively avoiding in the 1st place by using cannabis instead. People seem to think "everything will be the same or better" when that couldnt be further from the truth. And as far as recreational? Not a chance. Thats going to be wiped away overnight again in all 50 states.
This is nothing but another scummy govt trick and everyone seems to be falling for it.
Reclassification isn’t declassification and legalization, just so everyone in this sub knows. They’d more than likely change it to be in line with heroin and cocaine where it is considered to have some medical benefit. Possession would still be a federally prohibited.
Cannabis shouldn’t be classified as a controlled substance at all. It should fall under the same category as alcohol.
This doesn’t benefit the home grower. The real benefactors are the large corporations and billionaires who have an investment in the industry to profit from us.
given the history of Marijuana in this country, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's somehow made even MORE illegal than it is... it seems like we can just not not fuck things up in that department, and all others
Rescheduling coupled with ending insurance subsidies will destroy pricing, with and without insurance. I've worked in the insurance and cannabis industries both.
I'm all for descheduling but with rescheduling, dispos will be replaced with pharmacies, prices will go up without insurance, and don't think for a second that insurance will allow smokeable cannabis. It'll be edibles only until injectables make it past FDA drug testing.
inb4 ignorant Redditors tell me this is a bad thing
No, it's not full legalization.
Yes, rescheduling down to 3 is objectively progressing on the topic at a federal level, and opens many important doors for gun rights and banking, among many others, think medical research, federal drug testing requirements etc.
Yes this helps big pharma, I don't care at this point, progress is progress, some of us have been waiting decades for anything.
Democrats could've done this or more on multiple occasions over the last 15 years and failed to prioritize it as an issue. Neither party cares about you, wake the fuck up.
Kinda curious what this is going to do for United States v. Hemani. Alcohol would be a schedule 1 drug if it wasn't exempt so I'd be curious to see if this reclassification effects this supreme court case
Why do you want reclassification? It will still be a controlled drug. They only people this effects is it opens the door to big pharmaceutical companies.
This is exactly whats going to happen and the idea. Thats why its coming right after they revoked the farm bill. And they can easily just not approve it at all. The FDA can say nope, not a chance. Without approval it cant even be prescribed in any form for anything. And things like flower, extracts and edibles will NEVER get fda approval. The best you can hope for is like a 60ml bottle of 10mg tincture a month for like $300. Who is this good for? Big pharma and the govt. Not the people.
Believe it when I see it. If it happens I'll tip my hat, while still calling for impeachment and the release of the Epstein files. Biden should have done it.
Actually it is quite significant for you as Texas has trigger laws that automatically kick in when the federal government reschedules a drug. When that happens, Texas will have 30 days to update its state level scheduling of cannabis to match the federal schedule. Over half of all states have these trigger laws to keep their state level drug schedules aligned with the federal government.
Now as far as what the actual impact of your state rescheduling cannabis to 3 would be, it's hard to know, but it would mean Texas acknowledges that cannabis has legitimate medical use. This would likely mean an expanded medical program, and prohibitionists will no longer have the shield of "its a schedule 1 substance" to point to for why it should be kept illegal
It's legal. This will be finishing the rescheduling process that Biden initiated back in 2022. Most of the work for this was already done under Biden's term but it was never finalized. There is an existing proposed rule to reschedule marijuana that culminated from that process.
While the president cannot directly reschedule a drug via executive order, the DEA head and Attorney General have the power to reschedule drugs via the Controlled Substances Act, and that proposed rule currently sits with the DOJ and DEA waiting for action. All that Trump has to do is order his DOJ or DEA to issue the final rule, and once they do that, rescheduling becomes finalized legally. This will be the conclusion of a nearly 4+ year long process - this is also likely why many people here keep saying "haven't we heard this before?" etc, because it's all the same process that has been underway for years now
Do you think the DEA director will write trump and tell him he doesn't report to the president like he did with Biden? Would love to see how that goes.
I imagine the biggest change is that us lovers will be able to have interstate travel with our supplies. Meaning I can go from cali to Texas with my weed
This doesn't move the needle at all. Who cares about reclassification for something that's easy to obtain now when people are getting abducted into vans off the street by masked men.
Yeah...not getting distracted from that. I'll never unsee that shit.
For those asking this may allow me and the entire industry i work in be able to smoke when we aren't working on the boats we work. If it's declassified the uscg may take a less stringent approach to marijauna and start implementing swab testing instead of urine. Allowing me to do it whenever i'm not sailing on a boat as long as it's not right before i crew up. These things don't happen all at once usually. It's tier climbing stairs to eventually get there. Unfortunately it's a tactic used to buy favor from the general public but a win it still is. Stop being so negative drama queens. This is a good thing.
In regards to the people calling for the release of the Epstein files, I am not arguing for or against the orange guy, but I am pretty sure we are going to see small releases of the names closer to the mid term elections.
This is as political as I will get, beyond that it is good to see that we may be able to have legal weed soon. I hope he does it.
As usual talking from the south end or a northbound bull, the rescheduling process was started under Biden and has been fought by the right the whole way. This will move it to schedule III making medical use legal.
So we ban hemp based THC, and reschedule cannabis to put it in the hands of pharmaceutical companies and bad faith practitioners. Awesome. This country rules.
Yay capitalism!
Yeah the last thing I want is for my buds to be influenced by anyone in this guy's circle. There's always a grift.
I've been saying it for years, federal legalization will lead to capitalists taking over the industry. Expect lower THC levels and higher prices.
RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES K THNX BYE
Wild how they’re literally doing everything and anything besides that
And it’s like a top 3 issue for the American population
It’s productive procrastination lol
It’s flooding the zone.
Hey, let's let them knock out all these things we want, then when they run out of shit, we can go back to hammering them on the files.
I want Trump impeached and imprisoned, can we put that at the top of our list?
I honestly don’t think he’s gonna live long enough to see the inside of a cell. I give him 1-2 years tops
They are starting yet another, "LOOK OVER THERE WAR" in hopes to lose focus from the Epstein files.
Guys the emails are out. It literally cannot be stopped.
I care more about the weed reclassification than the files at this point. What changes for me if they release the files? Do we trust they are the real or full inclusive files? I don’t.
Love the apathy. I’ll stop caring too! /s.
Seriously though. The “files” get released and what changes in your life? Anything? And you really trust they weren’t modified to protect names of powerful people in place right now? You born yesterday?
What changes in my life is my knowledge of the world around me.
Do I believe everything I see? Believe it or not, I don’t, but I’m certain every photo released is NOT totally doctored and fake.
If I see a CEO of a company I shop at in those photos, I won’t shop there. If I see a politician in those photos my friend says he’d vote for, I’ll show him, maybe he won’t vote for him. A butterfly flaps it’s wings…
Keep your apathy to yourself, or don’t, I’m sure you don’t have much influence as the apathetic usually don’t. I see why weed classification matters more to you then what the ruling class is involved in and getting exposed for.
Right On.
Nothing changes for you if they reclassify weed either. Reclassification≠declassification or legalization. It would still be federally illegal, they would just finally put weed in the same category as cocaine and heroin(schedule 2).
Marijuana is already in the same schedule as heroin. Heroin is a Schedule I drug. And the plan is to reclassify it as Schedule III and not Schedule II, which puts it below cocaine and at the level of codeine or ketamine. This actually does come with a different level of federal regulation.
All of this is in the free article linked in the post.
Schedule 3 is what Trump is saying from what I hear.
"I care more about myself than finding justice for hundreds of girls that were molested and never got to see their attackers in court."
I translated your comment for you.
So the same people in possession of the files who are likely in said files are going to out themselves? No. No justice will be served by edited and redacted files getting released. That’s all I’m saying.
I agree that that's exactly what's going to happen, not caring doesn't change that for the better though. It just allows the lies and deceit to be perpetuated further, and that's good for no one. Times like these are when giving up and not caring does the most damage.
That's why these comments are reaming you rn.
I understand why. But I told no lies. I care more about weed than lies from our government. I won’t apologize for that.
I feel the same way to be honest. It's not really what changes, but what would happen if they do get released, do I believe that the people who have seen them will suddenly be like yep we should finally go after X or Y? Nothing ever happens.
The biggest thing I would love though, would be not hearing about it, or seeing it spammed everywhere all the time. People like to cry bot and suggest AI prompts for what they believe are bot accounts, but you have the same "person" posting information about the files and no one says a thing.
I'll take my legal weed first we can worry about Epstein later
I care about not living in a society where people who traffic young girls hold office and people who get pulled over with weed are sitting in jail.
I care about having a government whose motivations are not influenced by rich and powerful oligarchs who have compromising evidence against our elected officials to further screw us over.
Release all the files and hold everybody to account.
I’m gonna need the weed to deal with what’s in those files
Reclassification doesn’t mean declassification or legalization. It means changing weed from schedule 1 to schedule 2. It would still be federally illegal.
I'll believe it when I see it, biden ordered a reclassification like what? 2 years ago? The DEA has dragged their feet and put off rescheduling time and time again when pressed, they've had plenty of interviews, even the FDA sent them a recommendation on the declassification, time and time again the DEA has been a little bitch about the whole thing.
Why would an agency, who is built on budgets for stopping drugs - want to reduce that budget by making something WIDELY used that they can bust?
Cool and all, but anything but the Epstein files, huh?
Those files are going to be released no matter what, what we can squeeze out of that orange toothpaste tube before he strokes after realizing he can't distract people from his shit history is icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.
executive orders don't change any laws
Yeah, if this one makes it to SCROTUS they will have no problem ruling it unconstitutional. Then Drumpf can say that he tried, even though he knew it would fail because the people pulling his strings ABSOLUTELY do not want to make it legal
I mean they just Made hemp illegal again in several states.
They made all seeds illegal and redefined what hemp is on a federal level, afaik.
They’re not supposed to but he’s been getting away with it all year so currently in practice they do
Tell that to federal employees who have been bearing the brunt of never ending executive orders until it plays out in court
Isn't it due to be released around the 19th/20th of this month?
Those Trump condoms will be interesting to explain.
Apparently those were for sale in some novelty store and only made it into the record because Epstein took a picture of their display.
Not defending the creeps, just don’t want to muddy the waters with falsehoods from either side. The truth is damning enough.
While I agree, I thought the art and wording were an interesting choice. Basically openly mocking Trump
oh shit almost forgot about this after all news about it getting released
Never stop asking about them Epstein files til they're released. We're so close and they're trying everything they can do to distract.
desperate behavior from a desperate administration. even if they stumble into doing the right thing on weed, it doesn't undo all the harm this presidency has done in other ways.
I don't disagree at all, but I'll take progress on cannabis reform whichever way it comes. This rescheduling actually was started by Biden back in 2022 but he never finalized it. Now Trump will be able to give it the small push that the process needed to get across the finish line while taking full credit for it, just like he always does.
How many times we been right here at cusp of something for big industry to come in at eleventh hour to killl it.
Hopefully, Mitch McConnell is still in a standing coma, so maybe this can sneak through.
Not enough of a coma to not sneak in that hemp bill all quietly last minute.
I don’t get why Biden was ‘sleepy joe’ but none of these other fucks get called out as much.
Yup, Mitch has aides who are clearly using his walking corpse to push policy decisions. They are true bastards.
Mitch McConnell when he needs to stop legalization
Was anticipating a turtle face swap.
He's glitching as we speak
SCROMIT. SCROMIT EVERYWHERE. Think it's a coincidence?
Not on your life.
You mean after the bribe checks clear?
All of those departments are supposed to be independent of the president. That's why Biden didn't pressure the
FDADEA to complete the rescheduling. They are independent agencies, and they are supposed to make independent decisions.The DEA is legally bound to defer to HHS on the scientific and medical basis for how drugs get scheduled. HHS (through FDA, like you said) issued a 252 page report detailing why cannabis should be rescheduled from 1 to 3. DEA has been sitting on this since 2024, slow walking the process in the hopes that it would die off and never get finalized. HHS even had to create a new test to determine accepted medical use as the DEA's 5 part test was specifically designed to never allow cannabis to pass, ever. Let's not act like the DEA is somehow an innocent party here. They're a corrupt organization that has immense power to both enforce drug laws and determine how drugs get scheduled.
That was on Congress to enforce, though, not the Executive. The Executive can legally appoint and remove agency heads, but they are not supposed to affect the outcome of policy decision.
Presidents are not experts in any and all subjects. That is why we have experts to make decisions like this.
Do I wish they would legalize cannabis? Of course.
Do I want it bad enough to welcome an authoritarian government? No, not even a little bit.
Ketamine is schedule III... somehow I don't think this is gonna help much.
For academics it would be a major win. It allows federally funded institutions to complete research on cannabis without a DEA Schedule I research registration. That registration itself requires the lab to, before applying to the DEA, obtain necessary institutional approvals (e.g., from an Institutional Review Board (IRB) for human studies or IACUC for animal studies) and a state license or permit for controlled substances. Then there is a federal application (DEA Form 225) which has its own hoops to jump through. That then gets reviewed by the DEA and they complete an inspection of the research facility, which must follow all of the stringent regulatory and security policies for a schedule I research license. It’s then only valid for 12 months, is site and protocol specific, and the record keeping requirements are extensive and strict as well. All of that goes away if cannabis is moved to schedule III.
It wasn't a matter of "finalizing" it, starting the process was the only power a president has. Ultimately it's not their decision.
I don't think it can be rescheduled by EO though.
You're right, it can't be rescheduled by EO directly. The executive order will direct the AG and DEA head to publish the final rule rescheduling cannabis as part of the ongoing rescheduling process that started back under Biden in 2022. It's basically the conclusion to this process: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/05/21/2024-11137/schedules-of-controlled-substances-rescheduling-of-marijuana
Bidens a moron for not finishing it, dont downplay his fuckup of handing one of the most broadly popular ideas to a literal fascist. Low info voters gonna eat this up.
I don’t think rescheduling is really going to do much to boost his image when healthcare and affordability are still in the shitter.
The Democrat party love fucking up layups.
100%. That is what I worry about most when they win back power. They are gonna have a historic blue wave / majorities next election or two and then do absolute fuck all with it.
Yeah Dems aren't gonna do shit if they win again. It's all part of the plan.
Republicans do all the bad shit and move the Overton window to the right. Dems do nothing, keep Republican policies, and prevent progressives from moving it back to the left.
Sure the Dems are less bad, but they're just the other wing of the same bird
We need to put the pressure on them and vote in progressives. The "establishment" Dems/DNC are basically 90s Republicans and don't want to give up power until they're dead (seriously get your shit together on this Dems)
The progressives of the party have been the loudest about fighting against Trump and doing the work, the rest - like fucking Schumer - keep handing their "colleagues" a win for NOTHING in return.
My main worry is that the establishment Dems will ride the wave of progressive policies and leaders to power and then neuter any campaign promise on those progressive policies. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm already infuriated just thinking about it.
I'm not a political person by any stretch... but the Democratic party never ceases to amaze me with how piss poor they handle almost everything.
The fucked Bernie for Hilary. Tried to end run Kamala into office with some more questionable decisions.
100% it's going to be challenged
At what cost? He is irrevocably fucking this country while he and his family loot the coffers.
and this helps smokers how?
Many states have trigger laws that immediately go into effect when a drug is rescheduled at the federal level. For example, Texas would have 30 days to update their scheduling of cannabis at the state level to match the updated federal scheduling. Many red states hide behind the current schedule 1 federal status as reason for why they shouldn't enact medical or legal programs; that will now go away.
Schedule 3 also means the feds recognize that cannabis has medical value. This could result in federal medical cannabis regulations, eg you can travel safely across state lines with your medicine and medical card, just like any other prescription. You would be exempt from THC drug tests as a federal or military employee. There would be way more research on the medical benefits of cannabis as a whole as researching a schedule 1 drug is a lot more difficult than schedule 3.
Prices will also likely come down in medical and legal states, as after rescheduling, the medical/legal operators would no longer have to pay 280e tax which currently forces them to pay 70%+ tax rates. Now they'll be able to pay the same tax rates as other businesses, which means less of a cost burden to pass onto consumers
Interstate commerce will also compress prices and move production jobs south where labor costs are lower.
So buy locally grown weed.
I want to start this by saying in absolutely NO way do i approve of trump... With that said i don't care if someone "started" something, they had 4 years to figure that shit out... Just like every other president that has told us they were going to do something and hasn't. If there was some level of really trying to fight for it sure, like if the president of any year went before congress/DEA for more than 1 minute and basically said "you guys HAVE to figure this out and we aren't leaving the room until it is..." than sure i would say that president has started something... But the fact that you have 4 years in office and absolutely nothing actually gets done is extremely telling, that is the entire job of the president is to have us work together and be a leader regardless of left or right ideology. To me the GOP and the DNC have completely failed the american people and idk why anyone is sticking up for either side, i mean the argument is always "it's the lesser of two evils" which is probably the greatest propaganda that has ever come out, that in a completely free and open election there are only two organizations you could possibly pick from, when objectively there are more options.
Also you can’t reclassify with an EO so it’s essentially meaningless.
A president cannot unilaterally reclassify drugs via executive order
There's lots of things that can't be done, that have been done since this administration got their second chance.
However, he won't be doing it directly with the EO, and instead the EO will be an order for the agencies to reclassify it. So he won't be, he's just using his executive powers to order the agencies under the executive branch to do it.
That's basically what Biden did in 2022. He used an official statement instead of an EO. I'm not sure what the difference is.
https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/06/statement-from-president-biden-on-marijuana-reform/
Also, the process was already well underway. Check the timeline on the link below...
https://moritzlaw.osu.edu/faculty-and-research/drug-enforcement-and-policy-center/research-and-grants/policy-and-data-analyses/federal-marijuana-rescheduling
Agree. My state is finally legal and finally actually opening dispensaries. I would gladly trade all of that to undo the damage done over Trump's two terms.
This is 2 factor ... one, distraction from Epstein. Two, he's pulling a big lever so the Dems can't run on it next year.
Jokes on him, cause they'll just run on full legalization ... which is what the majority of Americans want in the first place.
maybe i'm ignorant but i don't give a flying fuck about reclassification. decriminalization and legalization is all that truly matters. if it can affect my job and my freedom still, this doesn't get my support.
Yes because as a schedule 1 narc, at the moment, THC is the same as driving around with bath salts (according to our government). Any step is important
Reclassification is the primary barrier to research that makes justifying legalization so much easier.
I hear this all the time and I ask what fucking research do you think is still needed for legalization. What new data point do you think we don’t have that will change anything. Lack of research isn’t what’s stopping legalization. Republicans in congress are. Reclassifying not only not only not going to move the needle in any way shape or form.
Research into marijuana, and all drugs, is important. It's not just about legalization.
It absolutely will move the needle. That expression means a small, minute change. That's what this is. Will it cause it to be legal? Not necessarily. But it will move the needle.
Multiple states and the nations of Canada and Germany are already doing studies with weed. Most are just documenting things we already knew in a professional setting. Nothing of value will change.
That’s not how science works. Just because you think you know something doesn’t mean you don’t test it, literally the core principle of the scientific method.
In my opinion, because it's harder to put the genie back in the bottle.
Smoking cessation is the largest benefit to public health outcomes since the discovery of antibiotics. However, since we've had a history of cigarettes being legal, it's almost impossible to have any type of prohibition regardless of the studies.
Cigarette smoking doesn't just impact you. Second hand smoke can affect never smokers, for example. But it was only 2010 when the last bars in the US stopped allowing indoor smoking.
Taking a measured approach here is good, because we truthfully do not know what would come with full legalization without regulation. We've seen Vitamin A put in THC pens as a stabilizer that killed folks. If we just opened it up, it's these businesses that are in it for profit that will end up killing folks, and being legally allowed to do so.
I don't necessarily like that it's Scheduled III, but even at that schedule it'd still be allowed via a prescription, and would be excused from a drug panel with a prescription (like having a codeine prescription or an Adderall prescription). It would also allow to have guard rails up that the cannabis has to stay regulated, especially if oversight is established.
Will reducing scheduling without full legalization hurt the innovation of the plant? Maybe so. But I'd hope with scheduling it would start to protect strains so those who do use it medicinally can actually have a strain they can obtain to provide the relief they're looking for. Just like someone getting a specific anti-depressant over another. If it's the wild west of "weed", we will lose those benefits in favor of recreation.
Eh, I think stopping the usage of leaded gas is by far the top one, but I understand that’s not your point.
I’m just being pedantic.
I like you. I'll toke one up with you in spirit tonight :)
Thanks bud 😉
It's medical research. They have to. That's one of the main reasons for rescheduling. Currently it cannot be done at all in an official capacity.
Everything is important. It’s not that you’re ignorant it’s that your very fair anger over existing inequity with the way this issue is treated is getting in the way of understanding of how something like this will vastly improve the entire atmosphere around marijuana. It will allow for more research, more opportunity, and, in turn, eventually a much different broad public perception of marijuana. That different broad public perception is the only way we are ever going to fix the parts you’re rightfully angry about.
1, it's an executive order it doesn't matter if you do or don't support it 2, any progress is progress. Having weed get rescheduled could at least mean lesser sentences for those caught with it, or further decriminalization.
Basically don't let perfect be the enemy of good
Very hard to decriminalize/legalize without reclassification. And really federal classification is a huge part of the legalization issue. There are other federal elements but suffice it to say that individual states will become the final arbiters just like they are with alcohol currently.
At least you own it up front.
Isn’t the classification what makes it illegal?
Sorry to say, but yes, you are being ignorant.
Curious about how this affects the DOJ pursuing gun owners who use cannabis. That was talked about a couple months ago.
That depends more on the current supreme court case.
Ps: yay for weed tho
Re-schedule only helps big pharma and corporate cannabis, deschedule or bust
It also gives the supreme court more room to not make weed use prevent someone from owning firearms. That may be the only silver lining and its not even automatic.
There's other solutions for that, Rep Mast has a bill to just blanket give everyone who's a marijuana user their firearms rights back. I'd take that solution before I allow pharmaceutical companies to patent individual strains any day. It's called the Gram act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2772
The bill you linked was last Congress. You got a current link, or was it not reintroduced?
True but the path through congress isnt an easy one, and it's not exactly like we have a choice on which one will happen. We vote every two to four years and hope the people we voted for didnt lie, thats all we get. We cant even recall our federal reps, its actually illegal.
I wish more people understood this. This brings big pharma into this in a bad way.
Reclassifying to schedule 3 does nothing except for these businesses and their taxes paid. The people are still screwed.
Right out of the Andrew Cuomo playbook
Thanks for the legal weed, but you still gotta gtfo
I'm betting that it's gonna be setup to be a pharmaceutical only product and he's selling the rights off to the highest big pharma bidder.
I have a glass bridge to sell anyone whoe believes this will benefit everyday working folks :D
When Biden tried doing this years ago the DEA slow walked it until he was out of office, then Trump put it on hold. He’s bringing it back because it’s politically convenient right now to use as a distraction technique. I don’t give him any credit whatsoever. If anything, this is a clear ploy to make it easier for people to sign up for ICE. They functionally removed any requirements for joining even the FBI (no more college requirement, halved training time), why not also eliminate pot drug testing for federal law enforcement? I don’t actually think it’s the end of the world if some Fed agents want to smoke weed, but the Trump admin is not doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.
I wouldn't be surprised if the "reclassification" to a new schedule. Schedule 0, the devil's substance list. Considering the government is actually insane.
I was called a delusional idiot on this sub for predicting exactly this like a month ago, lol. It wasn't super hard to see coming when you see his polling numbers, he's trying to pump Gen Z numbers after theyve collapsed post 2024.
Then he should be pushing his minions on the hill to fully legalize.
Instead he masturbates out another EO that will probably be toothless.
His goal isn't actually legalize marijuana though, it's to bring some of the Gen Z male vote share that he gained last election back to his camp since Gen Z has been one of the cohorts his polls have declined the most with. Also, he's lazy, and signing an EO is significantly less effort then getting the Republican Congress critters to actually legalize weed. The Whitehouse press release is more important than the real world results.
Ahh - a toothless masturbatory exercise.
You're not wrong there. WH is 90% optics, 10% results, and most of those results are meant to harm someone or get revenge. Like any disaster, you don't waste the potential for some sort of gains where you can get them.
I honestly dont think Gen Z is gonna actually care that much about a reschedule. Its confusing as to what that will even do for people at the moment. If he was gonna fully legalize it, that might do it.
And the whole year has been rotating and diverting attention from the Epstein files
It’s just a stock pump and dump for his buddies
No, please leave weed alone until someone who actually understands why we use weed is willing to get it done. This is a business move to allow big cannabis to move products across state lines without breaking the law. This administration does nothing for us, why does one believe they’d start now. This isn’t the legalization that we so deserve, this is corporate legalization to allow them to tax us, and sell us low potency trash weed. Rant over.
They were saving this one for the next Epstein drop
Corporate Cannabis Co coming to corner shops near you.
I refuse to believe this until i see it. Wildly unpopular decision amongst conservatives from an administration that has a hard on for stopping people from doing drugs. Imo, this is not gunna happen idc how credible the sources are lol
This is the first actual good thing this administration has done. And I’m very suspicious about it
You should be. This is their way to not only revoke the bill that allows the states to operate freely, but also look good and gain support from the public. Its win win for them and lose lose for you. Now that it would be under fda regulations, only legal, licensed pharmacies could sell it, and only sell what and in what forms the fda approves of, if anything. Just because it would become a schedule 3, dont mean that they will actually approve it for anything, or what you may currently use it for.
And you know things like flower and concentrate are gone. So is the vast majority of edibles. We may get nothing more than low dose tinctures, lozenges and pills, most likely fully or semi synthetizied. Like how we already do and have since the 80s such as with marinol. Thats if we get anything at all. And what will come will come from one if a handful of large corporations and investors. Like whose stocks have recently spiked.
Your local stores and farms are gonna be gone. Your edibles and flower, gone. Home growing gone. You will take what they give you, if anything, and like it. All pushed out by "big pharma" who may i remind you you were actively avoiding in the 1st place by using cannabis instead. People seem to think "everything will be the same or better" when that couldnt be further from the truth. And as far as recreational? Not a chance. Thats going to be wiped away overnight again in all 50 states.
This is nothing but another scummy govt trick and everyone seems to be falling for it.
Red states went back to banning hemp so good luck with that and epstien files distraction may be going hard
What’s an executive order going to do? It’s basically toilet paper isn’t it?
Reclassification isn’t declassification and legalization, just so everyone in this sub knows. They’d more than likely change it to be in line with heroin and cocaine where it is considered to have some medical benefit. Possession would still be a federally prohibited.
Cannabis shouldn’t be classified as a controlled substance at all. It should fall under the same category as alcohol.
This doesn’t benefit the home grower. The real benefactors are the large corporations and billionaires who have an investment in the industry to profit from us.
This administration said, “ F it. Give em the weed. They’ll be too high to worry about any files.”
given the history of Marijuana in this country, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's somehow made even MORE illegal than it is... it seems like we can just not not fuck things up in that department, and all others
Rescheduling coupled with ending insurance subsidies will destroy pricing, with and without insurance. I've worked in the insurance and cannabis industries both.
I'm all for descheduling but with rescheduling, dispos will be replaced with pharmacies, prices will go up without insurance, and don't think for a second that insurance will allow smokeable cannabis. It'll be edibles only until injectables make it past FDA drug testing.
Does this mean weed will be legal recreationally in all states or no? Lmao
Are they gonna make it even more illegal?
Schedule -1 incoming.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Also EE means nothing, we need to go through Congress rather than trying to get this pushed through to distract from Epstein
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Ah the latest plan.. let’s give em all weed to distract from the pedophilia.. 🙄
I welcome rescheduling like any other Ent but this is an EO not law. It can, like the rest of his EO’s, be nullified by the next president.
When it’s law I’ll be celebrating.
I love weed, but how/why are these orders seen as laws? It's the legislature that makes laws, not the executive branch
Oh cool, they will schedule it to be a double felony.
inb4 ignorant Redditors tell me this is a bad thing
No, it's not full legalization.
Yes, rescheduling down to 3 is objectively progressing on the topic at a federal level, and opens many important doors for gun rights and banking, among many others, think medical research, federal drug testing requirements etc.
Yes this helps big pharma, I don't care at this point, progress is progress, some of us have been waiting decades for anything.
Democrats could've done this or more on multiple occasions over the last 15 years and failed to prioritize it as an issue. Neither party cares about you, wake the fuck up.
Just think Andrew Cuomo did this for New York, just before he resigned.
$2k stimmy when
Kinda curious what this is going to do for United States v. Hemani. Alcohol would be a schedule 1 drug if it wasn't exempt so I'd be curious to see if this reclassification effects this supreme court case
Are they inventing Schedule 0?
This was already well underway and then killed by the current admin when they took over.
https://moritzlaw.osu.edu/faculty-and-research/drug-enforcement-and-policy-center/research-and-grants/policy-and-data-analyses/federal-marijuana-rescheduling
Have people forgotten executive orders aren’t laws?
Lmao post about anything goverment related Reddit: WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES
Why do you want reclassification? It will still be a controlled drug. They only people this effects is it opens the door to big pharmaceutical companies.
But the scromiting!!!
I am afraid this is going to see this amazing plant become medical use only now, and Big Pharma will take it over and fuck it up like everything else.
I will forever remain a pirate.
This is exactly whats going to happen and the idea. Thats why its coming right after they revoked the farm bill. And they can easily just not approve it at all. The FDA can say nope, not a chance. Without approval it cant even be prescribed in any form for anything. And things like flower, extracts and edibles will NEVER get fda approval. The best you can hope for is like a 60ml bottle of 10mg tincture a month for like $300. Who is this good for? Big pharma and the govt. Not the people.
Believe it when I see it. If it happens I'll tip my hat, while still calling for impeachment and the release of the Epstein files. Biden should have done it.
Canadians can smoke at home, were never going back to the US or buying their products.
Still holding my TLRY bags from 2021…
If I live in Texas, this means next to nothing for me, right?
Actually it is quite significant for you as Texas has trigger laws that automatically kick in when the federal government reschedules a drug. When that happens, Texas will have 30 days to update its state level scheduling of cannabis to match the federal schedule. Over half of all states have these trigger laws to keep their state level drug schedules aligned with the federal government.
Now as far as what the actual impact of your state rescheduling cannabis to 3 would be, it's hard to know, but it would mean Texas acknowledges that cannabis has legitimate medical use. This would likely mean an expanded medical program, and prohibitionists will no longer have the shield of "its a schedule 1 substance" to point to for why it should be kept illegal
This doesn't sound like how it actually works legally speaking but... I guess rules don't matter anymore. Would be pretty great to see tho
It's legal. This will be finishing the rescheduling process that Biden initiated back in 2022. Most of the work for this was already done under Biden's term but it was never finalized. There is an existing proposed rule to reschedule marijuana that culminated from that process.
While the president cannot directly reschedule a drug via executive order, the DEA head and Attorney General have the power to reschedule drugs via the Controlled Substances Act, and that proposed rule currently sits with the DOJ and DEA waiting for action. All that Trump has to do is order his DOJ or DEA to issue the final rule, and once they do that, rescheduling becomes finalized legally. This will be the conclusion of a nearly 4+ year long process - this is also likely why many people here keep saying "haven't we heard this before?" etc, because it's all the same process that has been underway for years now
I do remember Biden starting the process
Do you think the DEA director will write trump and tell him he doesn't report to the president like he did with Biden? Would love to see how that goes.
Just in case people don't know this, an executive order ISN'T law.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
I imagine the biggest change is that us lovers will be able to have interstate travel with our supplies. Meaning I can go from cali to Texas with my weed
Legalize it
It’s insane that weed is schedule 1
Yeah they’re gonna reclassify to the even more illegal 😂
finally, the corruption works in our favor
This is cool and all but we're still fucked in the ass for healthcare costs.
Desperation move
fuck donald trump
“As soon as Monday” translates to “Any time between Monday and the end of time itself”
This doesn't move the needle at all. Who cares about reclassification for something that's easy to obtain now when people are getting abducted into vans off the street by masked men.
Yeah...not getting distracted from that. I'll never unsee that shit.
Also release the goddamn Epstein files.
LMAO. Whatever to distract the masses.
Instead of bread and circuses.
We get dope and tik Tok.
For those asking this may allow me and the entire industry i work in be able to smoke when we aren't working on the boats we work. If it's declassified the uscg may take a less stringent approach to marijauna and start implementing swab testing instead of urine. Allowing me to do it whenever i'm not sailing on a boat as long as it's not right before i crew up. These things don't happen all at once usually. It's tier climbing stairs to eventually get there. Unfortunately it's a tactic used to buy favor from the general public but a win it still is. Stop being so negative drama queens. This is a good thing.
I’m guessing these files to reclassify will probably get lost with the Epstein files.
Trump's been saying this for months. Y'all kept downvoting me, but here we are
In regards to the people calling for the release of the Epstein files, I am not arguing for or against the orange guy, but I am pretty sure we are going to see small releases of the names closer to the mid term elections.
This is as political as I will get, beyond that it is good to see that we may be able to have legal weed soon. I hope he does it.
As usual talking from the south end or a northbound bull, the rescheduling process was started under Biden and has been fought by the right the whole way. This will move it to schedule III making medical use legal.
How is this gonna be any different from what Biden did I wonder?
Doubt.