The Senate just passed language in the 2024–2025 Farm Bill that would redefine hemp to include total THC — not just Delta-9. That means all hemp-derived products (CBD, Delta-8, THCA flower, etc.) could become federally illegal, even if they’re compliant right now.
This isn't just about getting high. this would effect farmers, small businesses selling hemp wellness products, people using CBD or other cannabinoids for relief and it is also is an insult to the states that worked so hard to create these hemp industries
The House still has to vote, so we can still stop it.
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Stickied until we get this fuckery brought down. Do your part, fellow ents!
Why?
Why are these old farts so hell bent on keeping weed illegal?
It's as close to harmless as anything can get. It's literally a plant. I thought "God" was perfect and created a perfect world, but these people seem to think God made a mistake with weed somehow.
But alcohol is totally fine even though thousands of people die from drunk drivers and alcohol poisoning each year.
Alcohol lobbyist and money
Sometimes I forget that our politicians are a bunch of prostitutes.
They also hate us.
Good luck and all. But sorry, folks. There's no reasoning with Republicans. Every Trump voter and anyone who didn't vote against him is responsible for this shit.
Yeah that too. Hahahha
They don't hate us, they literally do not give any fucks about us. They don't waste the energy they need to self-felaciate themselves 24/7.
They do hate us. They have a deep seated resentment and disdain for us. Because democracy means that they are beholden to us in many ways. They fancy themselves as gods, superior to us, above us. They think they have the right to do whatever they want, whenever they want. It deeply infuriates them that they have to adhere to our desires/wants/needs, to a democratic government with input from the people.
Hate implies that there is care, wether it be good or bad. They do not care
If they didn't care they wouldn't spend their whole lives whining about liberals and nobody else. You obviously haven't interacted with republicans IRL. Literally all they care about is liberals and they all pretend to be experts on liberals even if they're lazy shut in slobs who have never spoken to a liberal about their opinions.
to be fair there’s a decent amt of democrats that act like they’re experts on republicans too
Racism is hate. Classism is hate. This is both.
I mean Kamala flat out lied at the end of a 2020 VP debate when she said, "We will decriminalize marijuana!" And then proceeded to do fuck all regarding the matter (along with Joe). Dems aren't our friends either
They actually started the process of rescheduling, but who cares about facts...
Biden was a piss-poor progressive. He was worried about whether his church would ban him from communion for being pro-abortion, for fuck's sake.
And, it turns out that Biden could've just legalized it by executive order, don't you know you can do anything you want by executive order now?
Biden could have done SO MUCH MORE as a president.
Honestly I can't recall one thing he did as president besides shit his pants on national television during the debate against Trump. The democrats are a bunch of empty suits.
Build back better. It took less than half a second.
Guy below me is wrong, but ya'll don't vote based on that anyway.
That act wasn't passed
No, but really.
I can't gather if you seriously think he should have done this thing you are also apparently criticizing.
Here is the thing, you can't just vote Dem, you need to vote progressive Dem - they are not the same. Spend a moment before the primary and make a good choice and we can make a better world.
If Mitsubishi can sell both cars and televisions, then alcohol companies should lobby to branch out into the cannabis market instead of keeping it illegal.
I'm actually surprised the tobacco companies haven't jumped all over this and started their own line of weed cigarettes like " Marlboro Greens" .
They could use the leftover stem scraps to print the money they’d be raking in.
Frankly, I think this bullshit is an attempt to force a lot of the smaller cannabusinesses to close and then as soon as most of them have and their assets have been bought up by alcohol and/or tobacco conglomerates, then a case will be allowed to go to the supreme court which would overturn at least this and possibly overturn the federal ban overall.
That costs more than just lobbying
Don't forget the pharmaceutical lobbyists.
Alcohol lobby literally wrote a letter asking to ban hemp:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26218724-alcohol-wholesaler-hemp-ban-letter/
Edit: oops, that is the letter from the alcohol distributors asking for it to remain legal. Hang tight.
Edit 2, alcohol lobby boogaloo: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26221989-alcohol-hemp-letter/
Dont forget the pharma lobby!
More so private equity interest in the farmland that will go bankrupt
big weeds gotta have a lot of money too, no? tbh it’s fair that alcohol wants weed outta the picture cause the younger generations just aren’t drinkin at all
Yep, has nothing to do with age.
not to mention the tobacco industry backing hemp-bans.
Private prisons, the alcohol lobby, the pharmaceutical lobby, the catholic church, the police unions. All benefit from criminalized soft drugs. Non violent drug users are easy to catch ( low effort for out of shape American cops).
The bill was authored by McConnell who represents the state of KY and the bourbon industry. This is his final gift to his good ole boys club so he can sip his complimentary private stock of Pappy in retirement.
Oh of course it's Mr. Turtle. 🐢
alcohol has a massive industry with money to lobby anti hemp legislation into law in order to protect their profits at the expense of hemp users. the private prison industry also has the money to support this, and they will profit greatly by the sla- prison labor form the millions on criminals this bill will create overnight. corporate cannabis could lobby against this bill, but then they'd also have to compete with hemp products. the fact that this bill also bans seeds from being freely traded also further cements their control of the industry.
Alcohol is literally a poison, but hey drink up. 🙄🙄🙄☹️
According to the World Health Org, alcohol related deaths account for 2.6 Million a year.
Holy shit. Thats worse than I thought!
I have to imagine alcohol contributes to a lot of domestic and public acts of violence too.
I've never seen an angry stoner. And if I'm too high to drive a car, I'm probably too high to wanna bother driving anywhere.
one can speculate forever, i don't even think the government knows why there trying anymore.
"Its illegal because it's bad, and it's bad because it's illegal."
People have literally been expressing this exact sentiment for half a century. It’s nothing new, we will forever take one step forward and two steps back.
It's easier to keep us fighting about dumb s*** like this so that we don't start looking at the bigger problems.
It's a smoke screen
I will agree that it's not bad, but "it's just a plant" is not a good defense as to why it's good. Cocaine and heroin both come from plants.
Yeah Cocaine and Heroin should be legal too. Pretty much all drugs should be. My body, my choice.
Yes but that has nothing to do with what i was talking about.
People use "it's just a plant" to justify weed being "completely healthy" but ignore the fact that harder drugs are also completely natural.
What does cocaine and Heroin have to do with cannabis again?
Nothing. I think you're either forgetting what i was commenting about or choosing to ignore it. Either way, farewell
All both sides care about is corporate profits above all else. alcohol already brings in the corporate profits, so they'd rather shit on weed and keep the alcohol money flowing.
I wish there was this fervor all the time to push for national legalization instead of just dying on the loophole hill
Because these guys actually only care about continuing to line their own pockets.
Exactly. Legal states won’t care and have no skin in this game, so the loophole has even less power. Tired of the hemp shills anyways
I mean, if they wanted to legalize it, they could. They don't have to formally vote to change the farm bill language when a new law would supercede it anyway. Republicans do not care about anyone except the rich, and Kentucky bourbon has deep pockets, hence Rand Paul.
That's a non-statement. Like yeah, they couldve. And if they wanted, they couldve never made it illegal to begin with. But they did. And we're the ones that have to deal with it. How do we deal with it? National legalization.
I'm just saying the fact they're trying to take away the crumbs we have, dont hold your breath this is going to lead to politicians legalizing weed nationally, especially since there's no bill introduced to replace it while theyre taking it away. I have seen so much coping with that idea. So now we have no meal and no crumbs at all so back to real black marker people go which makes criminals that republicans need to stock their private prisons. And when have people stopped pushing for nationally legalized weed, people are calling it for every day even with the farm bill.
Not holding my breath. Hoping. Unfortunately a rare thing for people to engage in lately.
It’s not just the alcohol industry, big pharma is scared of weed, too.
By using ONE plant, I got off several prescription meds.
They do NOT like that. Not at all. And they have big money.
Don’t forget the private prison industry.
Oh absolutely. Gotta keep gettin those money checks from the state.
This is interesting because I work with dogs and we use cbd peanut butter for some of their enrichment, so I wonder if we will have to get rid of that too if this goes through.
Answer is yes, they specifically mention for pet consumption as well.
Think of all the innocent people that will also be sent to prison for years
That’s the point. Private prisons get money for each person they incarcerate, and they can then use them for slave labor, which the prison profits off of as well.
There’s a reason police unions and private prisons are lobbying to keep cannabis illegal, right alongside the alcohol industry.
The fact our prison system is even for profit is disgusting. Because now there's an incentive.
It's worth noting that Congress isn't doing this. The Republican Party is. The Heritage Foundation (the ultra-conservative Jesus Think Tank that controls the GOP) wants to put the genie of legal weed back into the bottle and recriminalize it as much as possible.
You're not wrong, but lots of Dems are signing on as well. Everyone needs to be calling their reps, regardless of party, over this bill.
8 dems, who are weak, is not lots.
No bro don't you get it?? If a single Democrat votes for this it means ALL Democrats are bad, but if every Republican votes for it we can't hold them responsible for it because
I think you're confused about the Rand amendment. While Rand and Cruz were the only two Republicans to vote against tabling it, a majority of Dems (25/47) voted to table it as well. The Republicans at least had the excuse of not wanting to continue the shutdown over the hemp language. What's the excuse for the dems who supposedly didn't want the shutdown to end..?
You need to look at the vote on Paul's bill to remove this langauge from the CR if you think this is a one side issue. Neither side gives a fuck about us or this issue.
Yes Republicans bad we already know this, it's a fucking given. But all you are doing is giving the Dems a pass for being utter garbage, yet again.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00614.htm
Lots, and lots of D's on that list.
A lot of 8
They seriously just want us drunk.
They seriously just want us to destroy our families and communities.
They want us to get hardening of the arteries, cirrosis of the liver, kidney failure, heart disease, brain damage... the list goes on.
This is what they want for America.
They seriously don't care or think about any of that. They only think/care about money and power. Period. The alcohol lobby has the money and the organization to bend legislative wills their way.
Not just the alcohol lobby but pharma as well. All those diseases caused by alcohol require medical interventions.
its easier to control an alcoholic than it is to control a pothead
Hence the massive drunk driving problem
And yet people will still just complain online and do peaceful protests... it obv must not be that important to people ig
i agree partially, i think anything more than a peaceful protest will set back progress. sure i would love to go kill somebody for this but aside from me being a pacifist, it will only associate the violent behavior with these alt noids which will not help the cause. people should protest more tho
The problem with the sort of peaceful “no kings” protests is they are not at all disruptive to anything. “Peaceful protest” necessarily implies non-disruptive, it doesn’t just mean not using physical violence against your political opponents, and this clearly does not work.
Taking your day off work to go stand in a park and hold a sign is hanging out in a park, not protest.
This mentality is unironically what is creating this cycle of uselessness.
I dont pay attention to news, only when it involves my beloved herb. What exactly was trumps goal?
To ban it.
Its a bit more nuanced than “Trumps Goal”. Mitch “Turtle Boy” McConnell added this asinine bullshit to the bill. Most of the senators that voted probably didnt even know this was in there (im giving them i gigantic benefit of the doubt by chalking it up to them being ignorant).
There is a ton of pressure to reopen the government so the dems jumped at an opportunity to do it. The blame game is in full effect. Rand Paul is against it because of this provision (and rightly so…wtf does banning hemp have to do with the federal budget?!).
Got thru to a secretary and voiced my concerns over the bill.
Thank you for doing your part!
Thats awesome
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So what have you done in the last two days to help?
not just hemp. seeds will also be redefined. not even Franklin or Alpen gluex any of the og cbd flowers would be legal. full spectrum cbd all that gone. all these regular folks that came to love their thc drinks are gonna be pissed too. not pissed enough to speak up though. I have no room to talk being an arm chair warrior.
Heads up OP the link to Hemp Supporter Action Form for email just directs to a page with a phone number to call, not an email thing like the HIFA Health Contact Tool
ty, i will fix that
You're fighting the wrong fight. That provision doesn't take effect for (at least) a year after it's signed into law.
Much more immediate is the USDA final rule implementation, specified in the 2018 farm bill (no additional legislation needed - it's already there!) taking effect at the end of the year already specifies "total THC" measurement including potential THCA conversion.
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Section 297B(a)(2)(A)(ii) of the AMA requires that State and Tribal plans for primary regulatory jurisdiction include a “procedure for testing, using post-decarboxylation or other similarly reliable methods, delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol concentration levels of hemp produced in the State or territory of the Indian Tribe.” Since not all testing methods include decarboxylation, AMS is requiring that the total THC, which includes the potential conversion of tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA) into THC, be reported and used for purposes of determining the THC content of a hemp sample.
Glad someone else here understands the true depth of whats going on.
What are the chances the USDA delays the updated testing rules entirely again though? Seems that it's been pushed back by about 1 year at least twice already. And further what are the chances that the USDA requires labs to be DEA registered at the end of the year, but do not implement the total THC rule?
As most cannabis is grown from the spring to fall seasons, if the total THC testing rules go into effect that means the only THCA/THC available to be manufactured into final products is what's currently stocked by producers and manufacturers. Even if the closure of the loophole allows for a 1 year grace period of intoxicating THC products, without a spring crop of type 1, there may not be enough THC to go around. Even if growers could grow type 3 (or possibly type 2 if the total THC rules are not implemented) and concentrate/chromatograph the THC, the quantity available would be low and the price would be extremely high.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/content/usda-extends-enforcement-deadline-hemp-be-tested-dea-registered-laboratories-1
It's been delayed 3 times actually. The link you posted there also works without the "-1" (original delay) and with a "0" instead (3rd delay). (edited from 2 to 0, sorry for the error)
It would actually be a winter crop (by the rules, would have to be harvested by ~ 30-Jan to be within 30 days of test).
I'd say the odds are...low. I do _not_ have a concrete "source", but I do know someone in the Department, and in previous years (even the year that the delay happened in December) they knew that the delay was going to happen well before it was published. Hasn't heard anything yet. I am in no way saying that verifies it, just that it's different than the past 3 years.
I would also expect the final rule to be "all or nothing", not "not implmenting the total THC rule". That's just my guess though.
Appreciate the insight. It does seem likely that if the new rules are adopted that they all are.
FWIW, I've been saying the "final rule" has been being postponed...it hasn't. The rule went into in effect in 2021 - what I should've been saying is the requirement to use DEA-listed labs has been delayed.
Regardless - they're supposed to have been reporting "total" THC for quite a while. I don't know why they're getting away with it now nor for how long they'll keep getting away with it. The language is unmistakably clear in the 'final rule'.
You can read the rule here...
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/01/19/2021-00967/establishment-of-a-domestic-hemp-production-program
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Laboratory Testing Requirements
Section 297B(a)(2)(A)(ii) of the AMA requires that State and Tribal plans for primary regulatory jurisdiction include a “procedure for testing, using post-decarboxylation or other similarly reliable methods, delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol concentration levels of hemp produced in the State or territory of the Indian Tribe.” Since not all testing methods include decarboxylation, AMS is requiring that the total THC, which includes the potential conversion of tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA) into THC, be reported and used for purposes of determining the THC content of a hemp sample.
The IFR included requirements on how laboratories conduct hemp testing for the purposes of regulatory compliance to assure that total THC levels were measured. Commenters provided extensive input on testing requirements, particularly the requirement to test for “total” THC instead of only “delta-9” THC. AMS is retaining this requirement.
AMS looked at current testing methodologies that would meet the decarboxylation requirement set in the 2018 Farm Bill. In gas chromatography (GC) testing, heat is applied to the sample, which decarboxylates THCA, producing delta-9 THC, so that the final delta-9 THC result is actually a total THC result. GC is the more traditional technique used for THC testing and was the technique used by Dr. Small \)5\) in his research that derived the 0.3 percent threshold that was used as a basis for the 2018 Farm Bill requirement and is used by law enforcement as the threshold to differentiate hemp from marijuana. In his research papers, the 0.3 percent threshold is based on total available delta-9 THC, which is the sum of THCA and delta-9 THC in the plant material.
Liquid chromatography (LC) testing does not involve the use of significant heat, so that the THCA in a sample does not generally decarboxylate. Results can be reported for THCA and delta-9 THC separately. When LC is used, the total THC needs to be calculated post-testing in order to report results as a “post-decarboxylation” delta-9 THC value. The requirement to report the total THC value as the THC content regardless of testing methodology used ensures testing consistency across the program.
Samples must be tested using post-decarboxylation or other similarly reliable analytical methods by which the total THC concentration level reported accounts for the conversion of THCA into THC. Acceptable testing methodologies currently include gas or liquid chromatography with detection.
The total THC, derived from the sum of the THC and THCA content, shall be determined and reported on a dry weight basis. In order to provide flexibility to States and Tribes in administering their own hemp production programs, alternative testing protocols will be considered if they are comparable to and similarly reliable as the baseline mandated by section 297B(a)(2)(A)(ii) of the AMA and established under USDA regulations and procedures. Updated USDA procedures for sampling and testing will be issued concurrently with this rule and will be provided on the USDA website.
Reporting requirements for laboratories are discussed later in Section X (Regulatory Analysis) of this final rule. To clarify these requirements, laboratories conducting testing for purposes of monitoring THC concentration throughout the growing season are not subject to these reporting requirements. These tests are for the producer to monitor his or her production as it grows and not to comply with pre-harvest testing requirements in this rule. Only laboratories conducting the “final” test that will be used to determine whether a sample is compliant are subject to reporting requirements.
I would guess the total THC testing rule is at odds with the definition of hemp as <0.3% THC and the broader definition overrules?
Something similar can be said about the USDA not enforcing it's own rule that CBD cannot be added to foods. The USDA hasn't sent a warning letter since 2022 about it.
https://www.fda.gov/media/131878/download?attachment
No, it’s not at odds.
Agencies make rules / regulations to implement the laws they’re charged with managing. Longstanding practice often referred to as “Chevron deference”
The ban on “lawn darts” and the orange marking on toy guns came from rules promulgated by the CPSC, not congress, for example.
However, now that the right leaning SCOTUS has somewhat done away with Chevron deference…I currently place no bets how that will be resolved if someone should file suit against the USDA over this.
Edit: on second thought I would put money on the USDA rule standing over the definition - because the language in the farm bill directed USDA to use the total THC w/ THCA.
Note: Some of Rand Paul's constituents might be in a good position to ask him about this. He doesn't want to see the hemp industry crushed like this.
can you explain what you mean by this?
Long and the short is the labs used for testing are supposed to be DEA-listed labs, and determining "total THC" (including THCA). That language was in the 2018 farm bill itself (on page 421) but in 2021 when the USDA published their final rule, there was an exception - until the end of 2022 - to the requirement that the labs be DEA listed. That got delayed 3 times with a current enforcement expectation of 1/1/2026.
If the new testing rules come into play on 01 Jan 2026, no plants except for type 3 (only trace THC present) can be grown in the future. Even though the THCA loophole and THC dosage limitations expire in 1 year, only THCA/THC presently possessed by growers/producers/manufacturers can be used to manufacture products. So even though THC products are federally legal for the next year, there may not be enough THC for manufacturers to make products as a spring/summer crop of type 1 and type 2 plants cannot be grown as they will fail the updated testing rules.
Another thing to keep in mind is although the loophole doesn't close for a year, that's a federal rule and individual states may close the loophole at any time. For example, WA/CA/AK already completely prohibit detectable THC in hemp products and 15 other states have much stricter THC regulations than the federal regulations.
https://www.bakerinstitute.org/research/mapping-hemp-products-legal-status-across-us-states
If we're gonna do capitalism, lets DO capitalism, none of this pick-and-choose what we can and cant buy with our own money bullshit man, fuck our current leadership
That's the low hanging fruit to argue with these asshats. I thought they were about states rights abd pro business. They just killed a 30 billion dollar a year industry and put iver 300k people out of work. It's just hateful. They are miserable people, and they want everyone else to be miserable too.
Every single time we make some kind of progress as a society, these guys just have to tear it down
Third world country dictatorship.
1984 type shit
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
This negatively affects the people they want to negatively affect.
Prepare to be affected.
oh man, if only there was a way that we could have prevented this a year ago
Right, one side ordered their departments to start the de/re-scheduling.... and the other which has been resoundingly against the evil weed.
I live in Illinois and grow my own, but man this is going to fuck up the industry. Are we Great again yet?
TYVM. Probably took me ten minutes total to contact both senators and my rep and make clear my opposition.
thank you for doing that! if everyone took 10 minutes out of there day maybe we could still fix this
It would also make seeds no longer in the “hemp” definition, making them illegal
Does anyone know how long we'll have a chance to stock up if this passes? Like, would it not go into effect for a year?
1 year after it passes grace period.
just in time for politicians to use this as a campaign/fundraising item
meanwhile farms will go out of business, get bought up by PE, then after midterms this law will be revised again to benefit the new owners
Thank you for posting this!
no problem!
Sorry to sound naive, but I don't really understand how this is even feasible. There are so many dispensaries by me in IL, would they just close? Would blue states even comply with this? edit: for the record, I have already reached out to my lawmakers using the resources provided.
No this is a ban on intoxicating hemp products. It's the delta8 crap you'd find in gas stations. This has no effect on state legal cannabis dispensaries and even helps them since these hemp products were unregulated and competing against the legal market
I know you know that half the country has no access to “legal cannabis”
Right, but the commenter I responded to was asking if this impacts the legal dispensaries in their state, which it does not
Im not sure. Afaik dispensaries selling non hemp products are fine.
CALL YOUR REPS AND ANNOY THEM. HERES SOMETHING YOU CAN USE FOR E-MAILS OR CALLS "I'm a constituent calling about proposed changes to hemp regulations in the federal funding bill. Please support the amendment to stop the hemp ban. Millions of Americans including veterans, farmers, and small business owners depend on safe, regulated hemp products and the jobs they create."
I think I’m just done paying taxes lol. Y’all can’t run the government and don’t even listen to the people. This shit goes both ways.
Have fun with the IRS
They still exist? Or wait let me guess, I now have to pay someone for the privilege of filing my taxes, to keep paying taxes on every purchase I make anyway after my income is taxed every check.
They’re lucky my job handles all that shit for me and I have to file since they report shit. It just sucks having no representation when 60% of my money if not more is going to taxes.
Who needed money, alcohol or tobacco? Or is the ban actual marinuana sellers banning the current people who setup shop, to come in and capitalize after the market gets bled a little bit?
Either way, it’s all just corporate greed. Tax our smoke, and let us have it. Make it simple, people are gonna buy it regardless and making shit hard to reach isn’t gonna make us get med cards, or buy alcohol instead.
If it’s illegal then you support the market that creates. If it’s legal, you can regulate and tax the market. Stuff like “no heavy metals in plant material above -1%” or some shit that ACTUALLY benefits the people, instead of just flip-flopping
Whatever your opinion is, it's still very illegal to not file your taxes.
The IRS will charge you increasing penalties for every tax return you skip (https://www.irs.gov/payments/failure-to-file-penalty).
And, after a while if they notice that you're intentionally not paying any of your taxes you will be charged with tax evasion which can land you in jail. In fact, it is a felony.
It's completely your choice whether you want to risk having to give the government $100,000 and spend 5 years in jail.
So not only did the 8 senate Dems sell us down the river by giving in on the shutdown with a bs promise from the right to vote on ACA subsidies later this year, but they also voted with republicans to fuck our farmers and society at large?
Its shocking more people don’t support the Dems /s
the hemp people dumped millions into lobbying to keep recreational weed illegal look it up, fuck them
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For real, can't even get that thc analog shit in CO. It's either rec/med or back to the k2 stuff from 15 years ago
cuz jesus
Trent Kelly in Mississippi just got this letter from me; if you're interested in joining our coalition, let's get it going!
Representative [NAME],
I am a constituent in [CITY] ([ZIP CODE]) writing about your YES vote on H.R. 5371 on November 12th. The hemp provision in this bill will destroy an industry that employs thousands of [STATE] residents and generates millions in economic activity. It also criminalizes people seeking relief outside a pharmaceutical system that traps them in debt, addiction, and dependency. Your vote doesn't protect anyone - it turns victims into criminals.
I will do everything in my power to keep that from happening. I am committing my time and money to ensure you face a serious primary challenge in [YEAR]. I will be organizing with other hemp business owners, farmers, and consumers in the district to recruit and support a challenger who understands this industry.
If you do not publicly commit to reversing your position before the effects of H.R. 5371 take effect, I'm starting that work immediately. This is not a request for your justification. I don't want to hear talking points about protecting children or corn farmers - I've heard them, and they don't justify destroying people's livelihoods and freedom. This is notice.
[YOUR NAME]
[YOUR ADDRESS]
[YOUR CITY, STATE ZIP]
[YOUR PHONE]
Can these people just die already
I called my representative's office but I doubt that will change anything with the way he votes. I am sure that "message" will be passed along as in not mentioned to him at all but maybe it will. I am super pissed about hemp being added to the spending bill. It has nothing to do with the budget besides preventing states from making revenue on the sales tax.
People keep blaming the alcohol industry or pharma, and I'm sure they share some blame, but the real reason for doing this is oppressing the people you want to oppress. Laws have this neat loophole in the U.S.. You can apply them, or not apply them, to whoever you want.
It's the reason it was criminalized in the first place. It's a casus belli to terrorizing and oppressing minority groups and opposition.
What effect, if any, will this have on dispensaries, private grows(within legal limit) and seed purchases in New York state? I didn't trust the Fed but how will this affect my use and cultivation in state
It likely wont affect in state for now. Its not federally legal currently but states rights are a thing. The biggest problem is effecting larger growing operations/farmers leading to shortage with dispensaries if it goes far enough.
Thank you for the information. Hopefully since most product is made in state it won't be too much of a disruption. I can't believe they slipped this in out of nowhere. I hope the check they got cleared. Bunch of shameless grifters
Keep voting based on what you value . Seems to work .
They were not trying.
It’s not all hemp, might want to feed it through ChatGBT and have it explain it to you if you were 10. It makes it easier to understand
"total THC"
So things like HHC are still legal?
When does this change take effect? I'm seeing some sources say January 1st, and others November 12th 2026, I'd like to know when I need to worry
There is a one year grace period from the date it was passed so that means its some day in november of 2026. My recommendation is to get a medical card if its not legal recreationally where you are
So I'll still be able to purchase up to that point, yeah? Was a biiiit worried I'd have to stock up ASAP. Any advice on getting a medical card?
Yeah, i imagine that lots of small businesses are gonna go out so as the time comes closer to that date they will probably a lot of sales so thats something to look forward to. Unfortunately i dont have any advice, im trying to get my medical card myself
Thank you for the help, good luck on getting a card!
No problem, i will help the tree community in any way i can!
IMO part of the reason for this is the large number of irresponsible parents that leave their edibles where their kids can find them. There have been several kids ODing on gummys nearby.
there is still time to tell congress this is unamerican https://hifa.health/contact-your-lawmakers/
This is the most american thing there is, denying access to a theraputic herb for "the kids"
how it was passed is the unamerican thing about it, no debate, just slipped into a bill to reopen the government.
‘Murica!
the country voted for this 🤷♀️ not sure why anyone's surprised. fucked around and finding out now i guess
Dude it’s not gonna make a difference. If i had a nickel for every time one of these things gets posted for an issue, i would be one rich mother trucker. They’re gonna do what they do and normal people like us cant make a difference. We don’t with voting, we don’t with bills and we don’t with laws.
Did it make a difference with everyone calling Schumer over snap benefits? No.
You can downvote me all you want but its better if you can come to terms with the fact that sometimes, the truth hurts and theres nothing you can do.
We got the Texas ban vetoed and we’ve been able to protect the industry this long. I know things are bleak and it’s fine if you don’t care/are too politically fatigued to do anything, but I will lose my job if this all goes unchallenged and I’d like to at LEAST feel supported by my fellow stoners. Not only are you wrong based on legal precedent, you’re putting out bad energy that our community doesn’t need right now.
Make a one minute phone call.
Right. To whom? Why do they care? Am I supposed to pay them?
I dont have money like these donors. I cant drop 2 million in someone's election fund and call it even.
Congressional aides listen to voicemails daily. They record the contents of the call and report them to the rep. I’ve signed every petition in the past. This time I’ve called two senators and my house rep. It was so easy. Each phone call took less than 2 minutes begining to end. Literally like leaving a voicemail to anyone else.
I get where you're coming from, but this is still a wildly unhelpful take.
Truth hurts sometimes. Our government is wildly unhelpful. I believe we all know that but we try to remain hopeful that it will change. But my hope has consistently been crushed over the last 48 years of my life.
Well, I'm only 45, but I've seen citizen initiatives gain traction several times over the years resulting in positive outcomes.
Maybe in 3 more years I'll have seen more of the doom and gloom you insist are the norm.
i feel the same but the people who wont try because of these beliefs, are fools.
You can call me a fool all you want but you are also a fool for believing it will make a change. To each their own.
I dont believe it will make a change i believe that the matter is important enough to take 10 minutes out of your day for the slim potential that it will make a change, we will know soon tho cuz the house is voting now afaik
It really helped, didn’t it? Thanks for calling me a fool even tho i was right.
It doesnt mean your right. Your operating under the condition that it doesnt matter at all
The Government only works for corporations and donors.
It’s a big club, and we’re not in it.
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atleast i tried. i bet many people heard about the ban and just brushed it aside and only hoped that it wont pass, i chose to do something about it, i posted this in a few subreddits as well as making other social media posts encouraging people to call there local representative.
Lets NOT (cannabis and hemp are NOT the same)
Lets DO (cannabis and hemp actually ARE the same as there both varieties of the cannabis sativa plant with the distinction being in the THC content.) The control on psychoactive flower interferes with the cultivation of non psychoactive plants. But whats so criminal in psychoactivity? We are born with the most incredible organ in the history of this planet and people have begun to control the use of it. Its a war on free will, not drugs. I really do appreciate this comment tho and i mean that wholeheartedly and not sarcastic in any way because i am quite stoned right now and you have really begun to spark my creativity so thank you
Won’t matter for legal states
I'm in a legal state, and I disagree. I get terped distillate for edibles, and it's around 30-50 per ounce from an online, legal vendor.
In my legal state, they limit stupid shit, and I couldn't get an ounce of distillate if I begged, and if I did, it sure as fuck wouldn't be $50 locally.
Now, if they legalize pot nationally, then the floodgates open and prices will drop. But I don't see that happening with republican's in charge.