Was this kind of trebuchet used in medieval times or is this a "new" concept? Looks very efficient to drop small incendiary payloads over the walls of whichever city you're sieging
But one could make a volley with lots of these for probably comparatively fewer resources than a large one. Just like when the mongols set fire to birds and sent them in to Beijing. It was very effective at setting the city ablaze
Right but you can't shoot a clay jar full of burning oil like you can launch from a trebuchet of this size.
You can shoot like, a burning rag wrapped around an arrow, and a significantly reduced distance compared to a regular arrow. This shoots a larger payload, and potentially at a better range.
Do a volley of 100 of these into a slow moving - heavily armored/shielded - infantry
then reposition. Fire again.
Rinse and repeat. As long as you can keep the horses off your flanks.
And of course fire is cool. But you don't need to hit infantry with fire. Just something heavy like a good sized stone.
They would tie a rope and light a fire at the end so birds would seek shelter, lighting buildings on fire as a result. I’m not sure what the fatality was for birds in that case but I don’t think it’s comparable to the other gruesome things they did, so in my opinion it isn’t that bad comparatively
Nah this would be a great weapon for harassment. Especially if you are launching oil at an enemy's encampment. Hell a lot of the really old battles just had people confusing the enemy and getting them off their stride. Disruptive tactics like this were employed during the Punic Wars. For example, a Roman general might order a series of loud, pre-dawn skirmishes specifically designed to deprive the Carthaginian soldiers of sleep and force them to skip breakfast, ensuring they met the subsequent main attack hungry and exhausted.
It doesn't go as far as it looks, the cover of night is deceiving. Battle lines would have to be right up in your face and you'd have to already have some height to get it over a city wall.
Scaled up, maybe a two man with a longer beam, but at the end of the day you're relying on just a gravitational drop to be the counterweight.
Honestly, this looks pretty similar to some of the very early Chinese slings that became Trebuchets. But dropping your weapon in battle is rarely a recommended course of action.
Accuracy would come into play here. Besides practice and some mad skill to be accurate enough to be effective, you'd also need level ground, which isn't always easy to find when laying siege to a fortified castle/fort/stronghold. Man, I played too much Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 this year...
Honestly, have each man in an army carry one and use it as a first volley in an engagement, could honestly be somewhat effective, if not physically then at least on morale
It does seem to need more than one person to setup before it is fired. But looks simple and could be used to break a charge as a couple rows are already in position.
Depends on how quickly you can make follow up shots. It looks like you need significant distance in front of you to make the mechanism work, so you would be exposed to return fire. Something like instigating an ambush or wall top anti siege weaponry would fit the mechanism better, especially if you had limited resources.
Babe, wake up, trebuchet 2 released before GTA VI
This is more like the PSP version than a sequel: compact, portable and quick to use. Only downside it looks like a once and done.
That's fire!
Up yours, Poseidon!
That's water
Was this kind of trebuchet used in medieval times or is this a "new" concept? Looks very efficient to drop small incendiary payloads over the walls of whichever city you're sieging
I feel like the slightly larger hand drawn trebuchets would be more efficient.
For destruction 100%
But one could make a volley with lots of these for probably comparatively fewer resources than a large one. Just like when the mongols set fire to birds and sent them in to Beijing. It was very effective at setting the city ablaze
You can use a bow for this which is probably way safer and more precise
However, unleashing a flock of flaming birds is S tier aura farming.
Olga of Kyiv my beloved
Right but you can't shoot a clay jar full of burning oil like you can launch from a trebuchet of this size.
You can shoot like, a burning rag wrapped around an arrow, and a significantly reduced distance compared to a regular arrow. This shoots a larger payload, and potentially at a better range.
True, but then you'd need however many archers and a firing line rather than just a couple of dudes with boxes full of birds and a fire pit.
Additionally - these look super mobile.
Do a volley of 100 of these into a slow moving - heavily armored/shielded - infantry
then reposition. Fire again.
Rinse and repeat. As long as you can keep the horses off your flanks.
And of course fire is cool. But you don't need to hit infantry with fire. Just something heavy like a good sized stone.
They set birds on fire?
The mongols really were terrible people.
They would tie a rope and light a fire at the end so birds would seek shelter, lighting buildings on fire as a result. I’m not sure what the fatality was for birds in that case but I don’t think it’s comparable to the other gruesome things they did, so in my opinion it isn’t that bad comparatively
Nah this would be a great weapon for harassment. Especially if you are launching oil at an enemy's encampment. Hell a lot of the really old battles just had people confusing the enemy and getting them off their stride. Disruptive tactics like this were employed during the Punic Wars. For example, a Roman general might order a series of loud, pre-dawn skirmishes specifically designed to deprive the Carthaginian soldiers of sleep and force them to skip breakfast, ensuring they met the subsequent main attack hungry and exhausted.
It doesn't go as far as it looks, the cover of night is deceiving. Battle lines would have to be right up in your face and you'd have to already have some height to get it over a city wall.
Scaled up, maybe a two man with a longer beam, but at the end of the day you're relying on just a gravitational drop to be the counterweight.
Honestly, this looks pretty similar to some of the very early Chinese slings that became Trebuchets. But dropping your weapon in battle is rarely a recommended course of action.
It's a new dlc for the trebuchet
Accuracy would come into play here. Besides practice and some mad skill to be accurate enough to be effective, you'd also need level ground, which isn't always easy to find when laying siege to a fortified castle/fort/stronghold. Man, I played too much Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 this year...
Insanely cool concept tho! I want 3 of these.
Just casually creating the 14th century version of the FGM Javelin.
Medieval Man-portable Trebuchet. Amazing.
Honestly, have each man in an army carry one and use it as a first volley in an engagement, could honestly be somewhat effective, if not physically then at least on morale
Or at least every third man.
It does seem to need more than one person to setup before it is fired. But looks simple and could be used to break a charge as a couple rows are already in position.
MANPIT. MAN Portable Incendiary Trebuchet.
I did go into this, thinking: "Huh, where's the trebuchet?" and ended up speaking out loud a pleasantly surprised "Ouh!"
what tech heresy is this? you cant improve on perfection
This is the infantry branch of the tech tree. Allows for lower cost light artillery that can be spammed while the high power units get built
More of a side grade
I love it
@OP do you guys have schematics / plans for this? I think it looks simple ish but I’m still trying to figure out the release mechanism
https://www.instructables.com/Worlds-Simplest-and-Newest-Trebuchet-Walking-Arm-T/
Damn I love this sub. Well done boys and girls. #SuperiorSiegeWeapon
I think it’s called a ‘walking trebuchet’
Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom!
Trebuchet Portable
For world building purposes do you think a skirmish line of these would be effective in battle
Depends on how quickly you can make follow up shots. It looks like you need significant distance in front of you to make the mechanism work, so you would be exposed to return fire. Something like instigating an ambush or wall top anti siege weaponry would fit the mechanism better, especially if you had limited resources.
They researched chemistry
Medieval man portable mortars
The staff of siege +150 damage to building type enemies
its the perfect thing to take to a protest
War is changing.
War, War never changes
Hell yeah
Nice
A handheld trebuchet before half life 3!?
No matter how many times I click the heart, it won't like the video? Is anyone else's Instagram doing this?
Wow! That could have gone… 300m?
Looks like it's one use only
Portable trebuchets... what a thought.
"That's what we in the bizz call a trebu-slay"
-my wife
excellent now scale it up threefold
Ah yes, a medieval MANPAD.