https://bsky.app/profile/whatthetrans.com/post/3mah2qw7ozk2f
The video in question is viewable on the Proton Drive link there, provided by TKDB. It contains a meeting 57½ minutes in length, with Hillary Cass providing a meeting with slides to NHS Sheffield. It does contain some interesting graphs...
I got to about 33 mins and it crashed. Was looking forward to what the other speakers had to say after Cass' big waffle.
EDIT: I managed to listen to the rest. It was effectively propaganda and PR. TKDB were labelled as an "extremist group". The session closed with the host thanking Cass for her wisdom, specialism and expertise in this area, which she has none of, and this was alluded to right at the beginning. Highly dysphoric children were glossed over, in favour of the narrative of young people just discovering their identities under the pressures of social media. Delaying puberty was dismissed as lacking in evidence and instead spoken about negatively as maybe affecting bone density and maybe affecting brain development. Obvious ideological bias against recognising trans people and our needs. Dismissing us as people with neurodevelopmental issues or complex MH issues. If gay children were spoken about like this today, there would be outrage.
Cass seems incapable of understanding that trans adults exist and that they remember being trans children, in many cases long prior to social media.
I wasn't transed by tiktok. I knew i was trans long before instagram reels existed. And i know if i had that knowledge when I was a child I would have avoided two decades of self hate and denial.
I first saw myself clearly as a girl in 1976. 10 years before the Internet was invented!
Oh my god, you were transed by BBSes and disco! 😱 (/s just in case)
She actually brought this up and distorted this too.
She said she had spoken with adult trans women who said that if they had been allowed to transition earlier, they would have, BUT that they wouldn't have been ready, so they are glad they didn't !
It seems she spoke with the most peculiar and unrepresentative trans women around, because no trans woman would rather be left with a man's voice, prominent brow ridge, Adam's apple, large frame, large feet and hands, hairy chest, back and face, male pattern hair loss, and a severely reduced chance of meeting a male partner because they'll only ever pass with difficulty and or after extensive medical and cosmetic procedures, ...as opposed to had they been fortunate to avoid the worst of those unwanted puberties and developed more seamlessly into women.
...Or she's a liar and pulled that out of her big fat lying arse.
EDIT: she never mentioned who any of these supposedly trans people and groups were.
Well at 12 I would have been too young to make permanent decisions about my body.
If only there was some way to... idk, just spitballing here... block puberty, then I could have waited a little longer until I was sure.
Strange how Cass doesn't like that option either though.
Cass and Streeting got puberty blockers banned for all under 18s. Cass is suggesting that even these trans women she allegedly spoke with agree that nobody should be allowed to transition until well into adulthood, until every bit of their brains have matured (mid-twenties).
EDIT: she used these anecdotes to support her conclusions and assumptions about puberty blockers. She claims they affect brain development.
Nothing at all to do with fear of society's response either, I'm sure.
One of my favourite arguments against this, is I literally knew I wanted to be a girl way before I knew being trans was a thing, genuinely assumed most boys felt like that for awhile and that it was just we'd had an unlucky roll of the dice.
Jesus.... is there anything we can do to fight this? because if an NHS trust is huffing such propoganda that is terrifying for the rights of trans patients under their care. And the misattribution of "expertise" to someone who has none is a chilling precedent to set.
At this point it looks like we might just need to rip and tear until they're gone
It was the person recording who typed that TKDB are a transphobic group. This either means it was to test out Cass or the recorder is a transphobe. I suspect the former as they were using Linux.
I happen to have neurodevelopmental issues and complex mental health issues. None of that stops me being trans, and I’m very certain I would be dead had I not been able to access treatment. In fact, getting treatment made my mental health significantly more stable, even if it (obviously) didn’t cure any of my mental health issues unrelated to gender it still made them a lot easier to deal with by removing a very significant stressor.
A pdf including a transcript and all the images would be fab
u/puciek has done it on her Bluesky https://bsky.app/profile/aidap.bsky.social/post/3maieclu35k23
Cass equals hate, say no more.
Christ!
She even plays 'trans- broken- arm- syndrome- in- reverse'.
Usually that means the clinician not listening to the presenting symptoms of the person in front of them, and saying 'it's cos you're trans'.
But, in the parallel universe of Cass, specialist clinicians, who are only accessed after a waiting list of many years - - and during those years, the trans person has stayed the course, not bailed, jumped through hoops and held themselves together as best they could, such that in no way can it be called a transient 'fad'- well finally, that specialist may acknowledge your trans-ness. But then, along comes Cass, and calls that diagnosis just another case of 'trans broken arm syndrome'! This time the clinician actively listened -and yet , to Cass, it's still 'trans broken arm syndrome'. WTAF?
Her answer; you need holistic care. I've recommended a model of 'therapy'. One where the 'therapist believe trans people don't exist. So no affirmation for you. See! You weren't trans after all.
Yay! "Holistic Care", and a peerage well deserved !
The kids are alright