Indeed. 'Ethical' based on a heavily criticized and discredited review and 'Ethical' based on listening to the petulant 'concerns' of (biased) parents who can't or don't know how to raise children that don't align with their view.
“The reason I was uncomfortable with that, too, is because I had to look children and young people, and their parents, in the eye when they told me in no uncertain terms that the decision was harmful to them, as have many other clinicians who have opposed that decision,” Streeting said.
Maybe it was the wrong decision then you fucking ghoul.
I for one pray on him experiencing hell every living moment of his life while he finds all those who once loved him turn on him and see him as nothing more than the useless wretch he is. I hope he suffers more than all of us combined and that would only be a small amount of the consequence he deserves
Chair of the Joint Committee on Human Rights of the Parliament of the United Kingdom
Ms Sarah OWEN MP
Chair of the Women and Equalities Committee of the House of Commons of the United Kingdom
Strasbourg, 3 October 2025
Dear Chair of the Joint Committee on Human Rights,
Dear Chair of the Women and Equalities Committee,
My mandate is to foster the effective observance of human rights in all member states of the Council of Europe. An important part of my work is to engage in dialogue with governments and parliaments of member states, and to assist them in addressing possible shortcomings in their laws and practices.
I am writing to you in relation to the human rights situation of trans people, which was one of the topics of my recent visit to the United Kingdom (30 June to 4 July). During the visit, I also had an exchange with Lord Alton. In my end-of-visit statement of 8 July 2025, I expressed my concern about the current climate for trans people in the UK. I would like to provide you with some further observations, in view of your respective Committees’ interest in and engagement with this topic. These reflect similar observations shared with the Secretary of State for Education (Minister for Equalities), as well as the Chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
My observations relate to the need to respect the human rights of trans people, in line with the UK’s international human rights obligations, including as regards further steps following the Supreme Court’s judgment in For Women Scotland Ltd. v. The Scottish Ministers. This is particularly important as the Supreme Court did not engage with these human rights issues. I understand that an updated code of practice for services, public functions and associations has recently been submitted for consideration by the UK government, as the last step before the document becomes subject to Parliamentary approval. In this respect, I note that Parliament has an important role as a guarantor of human rights, and in ensuring coherence and compliance.
The European Court of Human Rights (the Court) has recognised that, the very essence of the European Convention on Human Rights (the Convention) being respect for human dignity and human freedom, it guarantees the right of trans people to personal development and to physical and moral security. Gender identity is covered as an aspect of private life under Article 8 of the Convention. This protection entails an obligation to provide for legal gender recognition, in order to avoid the unsatisfactory situation in which trans people live in an “intermediate zone [as] not quite one gender or the other” (Christine Goodwin v. the United Kingdom). The Court has further emphasised the importance of the impact on trans people of a discordance between their social reality and the law, with the coherence of the administrative and legal practices within the domestic system being an important factor in assessing whether there has been a violation of Article 8 (Hämäläinen v. Finland).
It should be ensured that steps taken towards implementing the Supreme Court judgment avoid a situation where a person’s legal gender recognition is voided of practical meaning, to the extent that it leaves trans people in an unacceptable “intermediate zone”. Where possible, inconsistencies within the domestic system, particularly with regard to the interplay between key legal frameworks such as the Equality Act and the Gender Recognition Act, which could lead to legal uncertainty or to dissonance between the lived experiences of trans people and their treatment in law, should be avoided. It is also to be recalled that not all trans people wish to obtain legal gender recognition, and in reality simply live according to their gender identity. This does not in any way diminish their right to be treated with dignity, to be protected from discrimination, and to be able to participate in all areas of everyday life.
As I note in my end-of-visit statement, I observe a tendency to see the human rights of different groups as a zero-sum game. This has contributed to narratives which build on prejudice against trans people and portray upholding their human rights as a de facto threat to the rights of others. Such a zero-sum approach risks certain inferences being drawn from the UK Supreme Court judgment that could lead to widespread exclusion of trans people from many public spaces. This, in turn, may severely infringe on their ability to participate fully and equally in society. This is particularly the case, as discussions about how access to services and facilities will have to be regulated following the judgment have tended towards the exclusion of trans people. It would therefore be crucial for all stakeholders to receive clear guidance on how inclusion of trans people can be achieved across all areas, and how exclusion can be minimised to situations in which this would be strictly necessary and proportionate, in line with well established human rights principles. In reality, tensions between the human rights of different groups in this context are likely to be exceptional in nature, and resolvable through nuanced, reasonable and balanced accommodations. This would also be in line with the approaches taken by various bodies of the Council of Europe (such as the Committee on the Prevention of Torture (CPT) or the Group of Experts on Violence Against Women (GREVIO)), which recognise the particular vulnerability of trans people, and which begin from the position of their inclusion within spaces according to their gender identity – with exceptions made on a case-by-case basis as necessary.
Another area of concern is that blanket practices or policies on access to gender-segregated spaces could be put in place, which would require trans people to habitually “out” themselves publicly when accessing services or facilities, either directly (by being asked about their sex assigned at birth) or indirectly (by having to use services or facilities in such a way that it becomes apparent they are trans). Forced or non-consensual disclosure of private data falls within the sphere of private life under Article 8 of the Convention (see Bazhenov and Others v. Russia in relation to disclosure of sexual orientation). While this right is not absolute and can be subject to limitations in the interests of a number of grounds, this may only be done in accordance with the law, when necessary in a democratic society and proportionate to the aim sought. Disclosure requirements may have significant implications not only for trans people, but for others too, especially for those whose gender expression does not conform to their gender identity. Beyond privacy concerns, being forced to disclose sex assigned at birth may also significantly increase people’s vulnerability to harassment, abuse and even violence. I conclude by emphasising that the foregoing in no way detracts from the need to continue improving measures to prevent violence against women and girls, as well as the protection and promotion of women’s rights and gender equality more generally. I am concerned that a debate about violence against women, framed in a way that restricts the human rights and freedoms of trans people, risks undermining the comprehensive, evidence-based approach needed to address this epidemic. I would appreciate if you could share a copy of this letter with all members of your respective Committees.
Yours sincerely,
Michael O’Flaherty
[Commissioner for Human Rights of the Council of Europe]
I know Michael O'Flaherty is saying all the right things, but my brain snagged on every use of the words "dignity", "respect" and "clear". That's how much the current government has perverted the English language.
"Streeting, who made the call to heavily restrict the potentially life-saving medication, ...chose to do so after hearing “expert advice”.
Ministerial diaries from 2024 suggest that, shortly after Labour came to power, the MP had scheduled a gender policy meeting with organisations LGB Alliance, Transgender Trend, Genspect, CAN-SG, the Integrated Psychology Clinic, and the Bayswater Support Group. "
He is a danger to LGBTQIA people and should face a lifelong ban from all events for his hate and killing of LGBTQIA people.
The reason I am doing this is that I have to think about this extremely small group of people. I do not know what it is like to walk in their shoes, and I have to think very carefully about what is in their best interests.
Ministerial diaries from 2024 suggest that, shortly after Labour came to power, the MP had scheduled a gender policy meeting with organisations LGB Alliance, Transgender Trend, Genspect, CAN-SG, the Integrated Psychology Clinic, and the Bayswater Support Group. All of these groups have campaigned to deny gender-affirming treatment for trans youngsters.
Yeah, he has their best interests at heart, clearly.
I don’t know. I don’t follow all this. I’m merely trying to understand Streeting, when he says that he has these young peoples best interests as at heart, yet consulted with these groups. Did the puberty ban come after consulting with them? If so, his idea of ethics is seriously twisted. Edited.
Did the puberty ban come after consulting with them?
Yes, it did.
At the time it wasn't completely clear (to me) whether I was being gaslit/gaslighted by him, whether he was just a naive politician going along with what he perceived to be coming from expert groups.
However, there is no doubt at this point that this is the best liar of the bunch and a complete psychopath.
It's contradictary ridiculousness. Some people don't have the ability to realise they are doing it. ' i don't know what it's like to walk in their shoes, but i have to think carefully what's in their best interest " ?!?!?!?!?! If you don't know, use the loads of data and informed experts and those with lived experience to make the correct calls for the compassionate and accurate treatment and care for trans persons, young and old, best interests. Namaste 🙏
No you misunderstand! He doesn’t know what it’s like so he needs the puberty blocker trial to give him data so he can decide for us! (Because us transes can’t decide for ourselves, silly us!).
But why does he specifically have to think about their best interests? Surely the parents, doctors and the child themselves are the ones who should be, not him. As he said he doesn’t know what it is to walk in our shoes - so why is he allocating himself the power specifically?
In the past, if I wasn't sure of the most moral and ethical approach to a particular political question, I'd see what Tony Blair had to say about it, then I'd know the other side was right. I don't know why that worked so well, but it did. Weasel Wes is shaping up to be Blair's replacement.
Back in 2003 Tony collected the DNA of every smarmy, young, failed yuppy back bencher in the Labour Party, combined them and grew the resulting creature in a lab underneath number 10.
In 2007 Gordon Brown took over and ran to the basement to put an end to Tony’s horrible experiment before it could get loose, alas, all he found was the vat it was growing in, shattered, and footprints leading out through a back entrance.
To cut a long story short, Tony’s creature adopted the name Wes Streeting and rumour has it he still stalks the hallways of Parliament to this day.
"I am thinking now of the evacuation of the Jews, the extirpation of the Jewish people. It is one of those things that's easy to say: 'The Jewish people will be extirpated,' says every Party comrade, 'that's quite clear, its in our programme, elimination of the Jews, extirpation; that's what we are doing.' And then they all come along, these 80 million good Germans, and every one of them has his decent Jew. Of course, it's quite clear that the others are pigs, but this one is one first class Jew. Of all those who speak this way, not one has looked on; not one has lived through it. Most of you know what it means when 100 bodies lie together, when 500 lie there, or if 1,000 lie there. To have gone through this, and at the same time, apart from exceptions caused by human weaknesses, to have remained decent, that has made us hard. [...] In general, however, we can say, that we have carried out this most difficult task out of love for our own people. And we have suffered no harm to our inner self, our soul, our character in so doing."
Wes Streeting, hanging on to the cliff's edge with his fingertips "...please...help me...i can't hold on much longer..."
Me, standing over him "Well unfortunately it would be unethical to help you, prior studies into cliff falls weren't properly double blinded so I'm gonna have to let you hang there and run a two year trial first. Wouldn't want to cause irreparable damage by wrenching you up by your shoulder or anything tata see you later mate"
In that case so would be my fist in his smug, self-hating, money-grubbing, fundie face.
He's tearing us down AND he's sabotaging the NHS to prepare it for privatisation as well.
His actions are anathema to everything I grew up being told about the UK and about the Labour party.
We could be leading the world in projecting peace, showing compassion, but selfish greed has trans people caught in the middle of a push to break down all that is decent in the name of profits.
(...Turns out he was still gay years later. He continued to 'fantasise about hot men', but didn't act on it -- so he said. He did, however, continue to wear sequined blouses and carry a purse...)
So in his eyes, removing GIC self referrals next year, a medically proven NECESSARY CARE system, is ethical. Fuck that lying snake and all of those Labour cunts who backstabbed this entire country
My 'Labour's policies on trans rights are ethical' statement has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my 'Labour's policies on trans rights are ethical' statement.
College level philosophy knows that an actions ethical values is determined by one’s choice of ethical standard and interpretations. To paraphrase- there is no hate like Christian love.
pfft, next you'll be suggesting silly things like "it's self-explanatory" not being a necessary or sufficient condition to constitute a definition of something
Yeah... that's why I'm typing this residing in Ireland because, amongst other many things, I declined a breast screening because I will not be treated in a male hospital ward under your NHS policies you fkn vile little prick...
Reminds me... I need to sort my screening out soon with the Irish HSE...
My "the decisions I make about the treatment of a marginalised minority are ethical" teeshirt is causing a lot of questions already answered by the teeshirt, etc etc
Anything can be deemed to be ethical if you have a bad enough ethical framework. Almost every monster in history has considered their monstrous behaviour to be ethical.
If Wes Streeting says something is ethical that's a pretty strong indication that it's bloody monstrous.
So 'ethical' that he needed to tell us they are 'ethical'... /s
Indeed. 'Ethical' based on a heavily criticized and discredited review and 'Ethical' based on listening to the petulant 'concerns' of (biased) parents who can't or don't know how to raise children that don't align with their view.
Don't make me laugh, Wes.
Maybe it was the wrong decision then you fucking ghoul.
A literal, "No, it's the children who are wrong!" in the wild. Well done, Wes.
Feelings keep on trumping facts, eh.
"Both patients and doctors told me this was a bad idea, so I was very conflicted about my decision to ignore them and do it anyway :)"
His guilt over being gay is meaningless because he's not getting into heaven either way.
I for one pray on him experiencing hell every living moment of his life while he finds all those who once loved him turn on him and see him as nothing more than the useless wretch he is. I hope he suffers more than all of us combined and that would only be a small amount of the consequence he deserves
I hope (and very cautiously suspect) the EuCHR will say otherwise.
I know Michael O'Flaherty is saying all the right things, but my brain snagged on every use of the words "dignity", "respect" and "clear". That's how much the current government has perverted the English language.
Can’t that revolting little bigot just shut up for a couple of weeks and let us have Christmas without having to listen to his ignorance and lies?
Yeah, I’m not taking advice on ethics from Wes Streeting.
Wes "Bayswater Parents Are Cool With Me Even When They Share Child Abuse Ideas" Streeting. I
"Streeting, who made the call to heavily restrict the potentially life-saving medication, ...chose to do so after hearing “expert advice”.
Ministerial diaries from 2024 suggest that, shortly after Labour came to power, the MP had scheduled a gender policy meeting with organisations LGB Alliance, Transgender Trend, Genspect, CAN-SG, the Integrated Psychology Clinic, and the Bayswater Support Group. "
He is a danger to LGBTQIA people and should face a lifelong ban from all events for his hate and killing of LGBTQIA people.
and we should totally trust Labour to push through the conversion therapy ban they've been promising.
Funny, coming from someone who banned puberty blockers
Fuck you, Streeting. (Get dumped for Christmas.)
The reason I am doing this is that I have to think about this extremely small group of people. I do not know what it is like to walk in their shoes, and I have to think very carefully about what is in their best interests.
Ministerial diaries from 2024 suggest that, shortly after Labour came to power, the MP had scheduled a gender policy meeting with organisations LGB Alliance, Transgender Trend, Genspect, CAN-SG, the Integrated Psychology Clinic, and the Bayswater Support Group. All of these groups have campaigned to deny gender-affirming treatment for trans youngsters.
Yeah, he has their best interests at heart, clearly.
Exactly. And, if I remember, SEGM were involved too(?)
I don’t know. I don’t follow all this. I’m merely trying to understand Streeting, when he says that he has these young peoples best interests as at heart, yet consulted with these groups. Did the puberty ban come after consulting with them? If so, his idea of ethics is seriously twisted. Edited.
Yes, it did.
At the time it wasn't completely clear (to me) whether I was being gaslit/gaslighted by him, whether he was just a naive politician going along with what he perceived to be coming from expert groups.
However, there is no doubt at this point that this is the best liar of the bunch and a complete psychopath.
Enough said.
It's contradictary ridiculousness. Some people don't have the ability to realise they are doing it. ' i don't know what it's like to walk in their shoes, but i have to think carefully what's in their best interest " ?!?!?!?!?! If you don't know, use the loads of data and informed experts and those with lived experience to make the correct calls for the compassionate and accurate treatment and care for trans persons, young and old, best interests. Namaste 🙏
No you misunderstand! He doesn’t know what it’s like so he needs the puberty blocker trial to give him data so he can decide for us! (Because us transes can’t decide for ourselves, silly us!).
I agree, that what i said 🙏
But why does he specifically have to think about their best interests? Surely the parents, doctors and the child themselves are the ones who should be, not him. As he said he doesn’t know what it is to walk in our shoes - so why is he allocating himself the power specifically?
Because he’s a politician and a snake. He’s made a terrible mistake with that ban and he knows it.
Agreed
In the past, if I wasn't sure of the most moral and ethical approach to a particular political question, I'd see what Tony Blair had to say about it, then I'd know the other side was right. I don't know why that worked so well, but it did. Weasel Wes is shaping up to be Blair's replacement.
Back in 2003 Tony collected the DNA of every smarmy, young, failed yuppy back bencher in the Labour Party, combined them and grew the resulting creature in a lab underneath number 10.
In 2007 Gordon Brown took over and ran to the basement to put an end to Tony’s horrible experiment before it could get loose, alas, all he found was the vat it was growing in, shattered, and footprints leading out through a back entrance.
To cut a long story short, Tony’s creature adopted the name Wes Streeting and rumour has it he still stalks the hallways of Parliament to this day.
The Nazis said they were ethically killing Jews too
I actually have the quote for this to hand!
"I am thinking now of the evacuation of the Jews, the extirpation of the Jewish people. It is one of those things that's easy to say: 'The Jewish people will be extirpated,' says every Party comrade, 'that's quite clear, its in our programme, elimination of the Jews, extirpation; that's what we are doing.' And then they all come along, these 80 million good Germans, and every one of them has his decent Jew. Of course, it's quite clear that the others are pigs, but this one is one first class Jew. Of all those who speak this way, not one has looked on; not one has lived through it. Most of you know what it means when 100 bodies lie together, when 500 lie there, or if 1,000 lie there. To have gone through this, and at the same time, apart from exceptions caused by human weaknesses, to have remained decent, that has made us hard. [...] In general, however, we can say, that we have carried out this most difficult task out of love for our own people. And we have suffered no harm to our inner self, our soul, our character in so doing."
The Labour government is actively supporting a genocide in Palestine & jailing those who protest against it. They have no ethics!!!
Wes Streeting, hanging on to the cliff's edge with his fingertips "...please...help me...i can't hold on much longer..."
Me, standing over him "Well unfortunately it would be unethical to help you, prior studies into cliff falls weren't properly double blinded so I'm gonna have to let you hang there and run a two year trial first. Wouldn't want to cause irreparable damage by wrenching you up by your shoulder or anything tata see you later mate"
"You wouldn't happen to have a monozygotic twin, would you?" /s
Oops, silly me, I already went ahead and stepped on his fingers. You didn't need that trial too badly, did you?
In that case so would be my fist in his smug, self-hating, money-grubbing, fundie face.
He's tearing us down AND he's sabotaging the NHS to prepare it for privatisation as well.
His actions are anathema to everything I grew up being told about the UK and about the Labour party.
We could be leading the world in projecting peace, showing compassion, but selfish greed has trans people caught in the middle of a push to break down all that is decent in the name of profits.
In Patrick Stewart’s voice: “Shut up Wesley”
He not only thinks he can become PM but he’ll get Labour through the next election. Absolutely 100% delusional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL3WbzUAEok&t=6
Depressingly, after the May elections he probably will become PM.
But in political terms May is still far in the future I guess, still time for things to change.
Shut up Wesley.
heartless prick
I'm not taking ethics lessons from someone who thinks they can change their sexuality of they just beg invisible sky daddy hard enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Fqn2HJ1gk&t=6
/s
That dude was balls deep in the pastor the same night, I guarantee it.
"I'm not gonna carry a purse!" 😳
(...Turns out he was still gay years later. He continued to 'fantasise about hot men', but didn't act on it -- so he said. He did, however, continue to wear sequined blouses and carry a purse...)
Lol! Good on him!
He turned his fame into a money making thing... 😆
Man is a absolute monster 😢
Don't care what that rat says, he's so insanely transphobic that practically all of his opinions on us are automatically unethical
So in his eyes, removing GIC self referrals next year, a medically proven NECESSARY CARE system, is ethical. Fuck that lying snake and all of those Labour cunts who backstabbed this entire country
My 'Labour's policies on trans rights are ethical' statement has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my 'Labour's policies on trans rights are ethical' statement.
College level philosophy knows that an actions ethical values is determined by one’s choice of ethical standard and interpretations. To paraphrase- there is no hate like Christian love.
We all see the rot of Wes Streeting’s claims
pfft, next you'll be suggesting silly things like "it's self-explanatory" not being a necessary or sufficient condition to constitute a definition of something
He is the demon of Christmas Past, Present and Future and the whole of 2026.
Eh... He might overindulge over the festive break. You never know. 🤞
Yes, but we know you're a liar Wes
"It's just a flesh wound" says man who has had both arms and legs removed via sword.
Yeah... that's why I'm typing this residing in Ireland because, amongst other many things, I declined a breast screening because I will not be treated in a male hospital ward under your NHS policies you fkn vile little prick... Reminds me... I need to sort my screening out soon with the Irish HSE...
My "the decisions I make about the treatment of a marginalised minority are ethical" teeshirt is causing a lot of questions already answered by the teeshirt, etc etc
Anything can be deemed to be ethical if you have a bad enough ethical framework. Almost every monster in history has considered their monstrous behaviour to be ethical.
Fuck off, Diesel, you God-bothering prick.
I’ve said it before… and I’ll say it again.
Shut up, Wesley.
"We've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"
Can he even spell 'ethics'?
If they bothered actually asking trans people this question we'd say NO
He needs to resign.
It's all that dignity and respect that makes it ethical
And what the fuck would Thomas the Wank Engine know about ethics? FFS