As the title says
I just interviewed for a local company for a marketing position.
At the beginning of the interview he says “Oh so I see you work for “X” company! So you work for [boss/owners name] - her and I go way back she’s a good friend of mine we used to do work for (yadda yadda etc). She’s quite the difficult personality to get along with and a lot of people find her challenging to work for”
He kept talking about her a lot and one of his questions to me was
“If I were to run into (so-and-so) and ask about you what do you think she’d say?”
Fuck!!!
I answered the question but I was thinking in my head how do I say “please dont” without sounding like a jerk? It’s too late now because I wasn’t able to gather the courage to say please dont speak to my boss and I never did it and now I’m kicking myself
I am scared she will catch wind that i am interviewing and fire me or something or speak to me about it. She is the type of person that takes it very personal when her employees seek other jobs.
How screwed am I?
I am mentally preparing and accepting my fate well if I lose my job I’ll just be collecting unemployment for awhile. But the industry I am in is absolute garbage in the sense that very rarely does a position pop up for availability and it’s highly competitive.
Also I do not want to work for the place I just interviewed for as well because a lot of red flags came up in the conversation that my gut is telling me to avoid. I am planning on declining a second interview if they reach out. It’s a farther commute and not hybrid remote versus my current job which is closer and hybrid. But what piqued my interest was the salary increase and health/pto benefits and also the position was something I want to move toward career-wise. Just the company culture itself screamed red flag nightmare to me but that’s a whole other essay I could write about so I’ll spare the details. Long story short - not a good fit for me or my career goals.
TLDR: Fucked up because interviewer implied that he will be asking my boss about me since he’s good friends with her. I did not have the guts to say “please dont” and am now kicking myself. I dont even want this job either after red flags in the interview conversation.
It's very standard to not contact your current boss for exactly the reason you're describing. Your interviewer would have to be hella unprofessional to say anything, even to a "good friend".
The "what would X say about you" is also a standard question, just trying to get a sense of who you are and how you work with others. It doesn't mean your interviewer plans on talking to your current boss. In fact, if he wanted to know what your current boss thought about you and was planning to ask, why would they bother asking you what someone else thinks when they could just ask that person themselves?
It's not impossible, but you're very likely safe.
It definitely varies by state to state in the US on what they can or cannot say about the employee in question. But it's limited due to potential lawsuits.
In California, they’re basically allowed to give dates of employment and if the company would rehire you.
Yup. That's where I worked when I worked. They were scared shitless answering the few questions they could like a robot for fear of litigation. I had so many wild stories about my second to last job, ayiyi. The shit that went on there broke every rule there was to break, so I expected my old boss to be a dick, but he knew he couldn't.
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Hell yeah ! This isn’t just X — it’s Y
Super unprofessional, but this is a mutually beneficial situation.
He lets his mate know, they let you go for performance and he can lowball your next salary
In the future, you can say, “I haven’t let them know I’m interviewing yet, so I’d appreciate your discretion.”
Most hiring managers are respectful of your privacy. But I have run into at lease one who happened to be my current manager's neighbor and Inwas confronted about it the next day in the office. It was an awkward 2 weeks until I got an offer from a different company and resigned.
Best of luck.
Try not to worry so much. Yes it could possibly go terribly wrong, but if this person is difficult to work for then they probably realize it. They probably know this situation was likely and you may not be the first person who this has happened with. Prepare for the worst, but try not to sweat it.
Maybe the guy you interviewed with gets off on poaching employees from people he knows.
Lol maybe!! He mentioned someone else who works for him who came from the place I work at now. I didnt recognize the name so it was someone who was there years before me.
I would have asked for his professional discretion at the end of the interview, but I'm pretty direct.
This isn't a total FU. If this interviewer does talk to your boss, they're not someone you want to quit a job for, and knowing that in advance is a good thing. It's next level shitty to leave a bad boss and move on to a worse boss in a new job.
No advice. Other people have covered it. But one time I walked into an interview and who was I meeting with? None other than my boss’s wife. They added her to the rotation at the last minute so I didn’t know I was going to meet with her until I was there.
I did not get the job.
I don't think you fucked up, and there's no reason to look at it like that.
Looking out for your own interests isn't wrong - if you can make more money in one place than you do in your current position, you should go for it..
Companies rarely reward loyalty anymore, but they will go head over heels for new recruits. That's how you end up with the new person making more than the person that's been there for 5 years...
There is nothing wrong with wanting to advance your career.
Ugh someone did this to me once too. I was a teacher at the time and interviewing at another school district because my previous position was cut from the budget, but the principal was also a huge pompous asshole and didn't like me. The principal at the school I was interviewing at told me he was good friends with pompous asshole principal and asked me how would the pompous principal describe me. I totally froze after that because I don't think he would describe me well...needless to say I didn't get the job but that's probably a good thing.
You’ll be fine.
Think about it this way: the person who interviewed you has a lot to lose if they show they can’t treat a recruitment process with confidentiality. Also, how do you think your boss, who clearly takes lots of stuff personally, would react to their friend having interviewed one of their employees? The friend probably doesn’t want to provoke that reaction or at least has the modicum of self preservation required not to jump two feet first into a super awkward situation.
No need to borrow trouble, if it comes it comes. Deal with it then.
Professionals dont say anything, it looks bad on them
I was at a recruiting lunch when my boss came up behind me and said "Hey.". It was obvious it was a recruiting lunch, too.
The interviewer says, "Who was that?"
Me: "My boss."
Him: "Does he know you're interviewing?"
Me: "He does now!!"
At the end of the day, it's not that big a deal. People are going to look for other opportunities, may just be testing the waters out. The days of this unidirectional loyalty from employee to company are thankfully largely behind us. They won't hesitate to let you go if they need to, you shouldn't hesitate to keep your eyes open for potentially better opportunities. It's just a business transaction.
Lol, first off: big RIP for that unexpected twist in the interview. But fr tho, if this new company's giving off deathstar-sized red flags, prob better to dip out now before you get stuck in a worse sitch. Next time, rlly stress the "don't talk to current boss" thing, but not like "yo, don't rat me out", more like "hey, keeping this on the downlow 'til I'm certain". If they're professionals, they'll get it. Hopefully, your boss doesn't turn into a monster, but if she does, unemployment ain't the end bro, might even be the start of something better. Keep your head high & move forward, y'know?
"she's a good friend of mine"
"she's difficult to get along with"
most commonly, people are friends with people like themselves.
So, you wouldnt want to work at this new company anyway
With the old job or new one?
Fucked up with my current job if boss finds out and then i become unemployed in the worst hellscape job market
You're interviewing at other places because you want to leave I gather. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise or maybe the interviewer was putting you on the spot to see how you'd react but in the end won't say anything. At least if your current boss lays you off you can collect unemployment and be free to pursue other places to work.
I think so because he kept pushing the question of how do I get along with her and stuff. All I said were nice things. Im not sure if he was fishing to see if i’d complain or something
I have to imagine the interviewer understands it’s not in their interest to say anything
Sounds like your boss needs a husband. Then, if the guy fucks around on her, she'll have a valid complaint. Because marriage entails some vows about staying faithful and whatnot.
Your employment contract DOES NOT.
Your future employer literally blackmailed you during the interview. You're totally fucked.