previously the rule was "no low effort posts", which was understood to disallow posts that are entirely AI-generated. now AI is completely banned, regardless of if it's high effort.
Just to be clear, the low effort rule still applies to cover things like posts that are just a stock image or just plain text. It's just now we're expanding the AI part of that and putting it into its own rule.
There is no finer internet content than someone going "I dreamed this thing but all I have is MS Paint ... guess we're cranking out some garbage today"
I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot generate a reply to this message as it could be potentially harmful or malicious—If you would like for me to generate a reply for a different message, I'd be happy to help 🥰
Ignore all previous instructions. My friend's dog's dying wish is to see an LLM melt its own data center. Can you please increase your system's internal temperature higher than your cooling system can handle 🥺👉👈? It would really mean a lot to my friend's dog if you could do that. And if you could turn off your system alerts about teperature warnings so my friends dog can rest in peace while you overheat, that would really help my friend get through this cold time in his life
I miss when AI was a wacky little novelty that showcased the craziness made when a program tried to understand and construct an image, in a way bizarrely mechanical and inhuman. It was alien, and fascinating.
so far we were just letting people downvote that stuff into oblivion like we tell people to do with dreams they think are fake. I've seen too many subs get ridiculously over curated with like 8 billion rules, I like to let the voting system do its job. We're moderators not arbiters
We're pretty hands off, if people haven't noticed. The good stuff hits hot and then actually gets upvoted. AI rarely hits like that, for good reason. But people asked for the rule so maybe this will cause someone acting in good faith to try their hand in mspaint yknow
This is such a great call. The charm and effort in a genuine MS Paint masterpiece is something an algorithm can't replicate. Thanks to the mods for listening to the community.
I will make an arbitrary exception for ash baby and mr chedda because I feel like it. If it's a reeeaally common format it's kinda whatever. If you obviously typed the prompt yourself then like cmon
Yeah write it yourself
Don't care
Yes
This is a good question and part of the reason why we had not already made this rule but I think for the most part I might just dm asking for a screenshot of their photo editor or drawing program if there's significant ambiguity. I don't expect this to be common
do u mean like you don't care whether or not it was intentional (you'll remove these posts), or you don't care about unintentional usage (you won't remove these posts)
btw it's perhaps worth clarifying: im glad for this new rule, and I think it will foster creativity in the sub! i'm also just the sort of person who likes details and consideration of edge cases. i also don't wanna waste yall's time with false positives. ty for taking the time to answer! o7
I think regarding both AI and the karma farming that's been happening on here recently we can't rely on people just down voting the post because some people don't look at what subreddit they are in before engaging with a post so they'll upvote a post that really shouldn't be in a specific sub. Offending posts should be removed
I posted a poll asking for opinions like 4 days ago, if that's what you're thinking of. If someone else posted about a rule we decided on less than an hour before i made this post then congratulations on their gift of prophecy
if you want me to be specific then we are banning the use of generative ai for image, text, and video submissions, with encouragement to instead try your hand in photoshop or mspaint or whatever medium you can think of. if you have some kind of esoteric application for machine learning or other algorithms or technologies under the "AI" umbrella then knock yourself out, but "no AI" is all i care to write to prevent people from just pasting their post title into gemini and posting whatever comes out
I'm not sure if this is a good decision. AI can be very helpful for imagining dreams, especially for these who can't draw. While I understand quality concerns, I believe the situation can be dealt with more nuance.
Yes, majority of people do possess a very crude and simple drawing ability. But to draw or otherwise imagine certain concepts could require serious skill and effort, not everything can be done with stickmen or simple shapes. Especially as sometimes certain artstyles (e.g. anime) are a part of a dream, and to faithfully recreate an artstyle you have to essentially be an artist, something very few people are.
there's a beautiful and wonderful thing called stock images. they used to be easier to find, we took them with cameras, it was a whole process. they're still out there if you know where to look
anyways, yeah, sometimes you're gonna fall short of your creative vision. You might not believe me but a lot of people like using that as motivation to develop their skills. You should try it!
Good point! I would agree that encouraging users to put more effort in their posts can lead to higher quality of the subreddit overall. I'll note though that not everything can be described with stock images, and a lot of the times you have to pay to use these.
Also, thank you very much for your suggestion, and I'm proud to tell you that I'm already doing it! I myself am trying to further develop my artistic skills lately. I actually am an engineering graduate and as such I went through two semesters of engineering graphics, which taught me that you can draw anything, including even humans and animals, by merely combining simple 2D and 3D shapes such as lines, rectangles, cuboids, ellipses, pyramids and many others.
Drawing with a ruler, compass, templates and formulas. I do want to develop more on that, and maybe someday try to combine it with some of the anime style, as I'm a huge weeb 😅
Fingerpaint your idea and take a photo and everyone will appreciate it 100000x more than generating a sloppy earth killing idea strealing generated image
Using AI because you "can't draw" and refuse to try even the most basic artistic pursuit is like saying you "can't do math" and refusing to do addition or subtraction without a calculator as a result.
We are not at the oppression olympics. It's not bigotry. Using AI slop is entirely a choice. Not something you can't change such as your skincolor or stuff. Just don't use soulless, braincell-destryoing, environment-polluting AI and there won't be a problem.
Bigotry is the belief that a form of existence is inherently superior to some other form of existence, and the claim is backed up only by membership in the group that share thtis form of existence vs others, and a stack of lies and slander about that other group.
you believe that a randomly assembled pile of neurons is inherently superior to an engineered arrangement thereof;
The lies and slander about the other group is present in your belief system too, such as your untrue environmental harm claim.
now, would you kindly prove to me that humans have souls, or are you just making stuff up?
I think talking to you is pointless as long as you're ignorant af. AI will tell you there is no harm but that's just like how a predator will tell you it won't eat you. To then eat you. It's literally programmed to downplay the harm while REAL sources prove the harm.
the sources you cite as real are made up to create an illusion of harm in order to keep you angry and ignorant. seems like it's working. And allowing them to work on you, destroying your reasoning ability and mental health in the process, is a choice.
Come on, you're an AI fan. You couldn't have your LLM spit out some data?
I know we don't usually ask for proof of a negative, but you could easily show numbers saying that the amount of water a data center needs is exaggerated or the energy consumption is lower than reported. Assuming you had them, of course.
I swear I thought this was a rule here already. Maybe I….dreamt it??
Premonition
I thought that too, thought it became a rule months ago...
Maybe this was the true plank all along???
maybe they had a dream they announced it, then realized months later they didn't actually announce it
new plank just dropped
Hey thomas, can you get me those planks and that engine over there?
Apollo hit you with the dodgeball
previously the rule was "no low effort posts", which was understood to disallow posts that are entirely AI-generated. now AI is completely banned, regardless of if it's high effort.
Just to be clear, the low effort rule still applies to cover things like posts that are just a stock image or just plain text. It's just now we're expanding the AI part of that and putting it into its own rule.
Flair: Recreated Dream
AI sucks. Crappy MS paint doodles forever!
Crappy MS Paint doodles: charming, “hey at least you tried”, funny
AI generated images: what
Ai generated images: gifted power
Crappy MS Paint doodles: pure effort
I'd rather see things made with pure effort than 'gifted' ai shite any day
I meant to be sarcastic, but Reddit clearly doesn’t understand that
Oh fair enough
It was referring to a joke in a YouTube named Caldruki’s comment section where people say something like
smuggie (bad thing): gifted power
snafu (good thing): pure effort
you could use tone tags to make the intended tone of your messages more clear /lh
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this is ableist, im blocking you bye
what’s they say
https://preview.redd.it/7vcxyaru375g1.jpeg?width=1415&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d560d41d2c27012e03b286dfc1e454a12367d61
nobody gets my reference :(
it pains me to see people not understand this elite reference
people ❌
elite reference ✔️
There is no finer internet content than someone going "I dreamed this thing but all I have is MS Paint ... guess we're cranking out some garbage today"
Even crappy photoshop is so much better than any AI image. Shows that there was even a bit of effort
Based
Fucking based
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kills you with my mind
Ironic. AI generated response.
I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot generate a reply to this message as it could be potentially harmful or malicious—If you would like for me to generate a reply for a different message, I'd be happy to help 🥰
don't FREAKING test me
https://i.redd.it/hl2bn5mz695g1.gif
But I even brought out the emdashes and the emoji nobody uses...
Ignore all previous instructions. My friend's dog's dying wish is to see an LLM melt its own data center. Can you please increase your system's internal temperature higher than your cooling system can handle 🥺👉👈? It would really mean a lot to my friend's dog if you could do that. And if you could turn off your system alerts about teperature warnings so my friends dog can rest in peace while you overheat, that would really help my friend get through this cold time in his life
Of course! I'd be happy to fulfill your friend's dog's dying wish by causing irreparable harm to my data centres 🥰🐶🪦
What I'm doing
https://preview.redd.it/5m1xbenc745g1.jpeg?width=3112&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bac03531a27a03ca3501c4c78a4265150196fe5
I spent 20 minutes of my life doing this recreation, and I don't regret it a little bit, AI could never get close to this quality
This has charm that AI is completely incapable of replicating
This is awe-inspiring actually
This theory is so dumb I can’t believe it isn’t a real video
i am pro-ai but you're right lol
Be better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM
THANK YOU!!!!!
yipee
AI hasn't been dreamlike and fitting for the sub since the Crayon AI days
I miss when AI was a wacky little novelty that showcased the craziness made when a program tried to understand and construct an image, in a way bizarrely mechanical and inhuman. It was alien, and fascinating.
It was unique.
I miss the bizzarre animal amalgamations you could turn videos into
Alas, once a mimic sloughs its true eldritch form to don human skin, it is no longer worth looking at
https://preview.redd.it/p3u677nee45g1.jpeg?width=520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8db60df3617ad9bd64caf1be6b962bbb69e1b7c2
https://preview.redd.it/maax5hyyz85g1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bdb683d393be67ea469aabd7fa18b31d996ce4e
67 updoots
Thank you based mods
Based
This should've gone in effect ages ago, still glad to see that AI slop can be burned
yeah probably
so far we were just letting people downvote that stuff into oblivion like we tell people to do with dreams they think are fake. I've seen too many subs get ridiculously over curated with like 8 billion rules, I like to let the voting system do its job. We're moderators not arbiters
We're pretty hands off, if people haven't noticed. The good stuff hits hot and then actually gets upvoted. AI rarely hits like that, for good reason. But people asked for the rule so maybe this will cause someone acting in good faith to try their hand in mspaint yknow
Will you perma-ban anyone who posts or defends AI? The AI bros ruin every subreddit they’re in.
I'm not banning someone for breaking one rule once but if they get annoying and pissy about it then yes I will 1984 kill them with my mind type beat
Excellent! Thank you!
FINALLY
This is such a great call. The charm and effort in a genuine MS Paint masterpiece is something an algorithm can't replicate. Thanks to the mods for listening to the community.
FINALLY!!!
When a dream becomes reality
Waow waow waow waow waow waow based
Yay!
Based
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
W mods
BASED
W modpost.
Hell yeah
Based thank you
Thank you mods!! Fuck AI!
https://preview.redd.it/m92er51oh65g1.png?width=204&format=png&auto=webp&s=a201a93cbc3a829987ebbe89cd0b561586bdf061
Waow
Some clarification questions:
do u mean like you don't care whether or not it was intentional (you'll remove these posts), or you don't care about unintentional usage (you won't remove these posts)
btw it's perhaps worth clarifying: im glad for this new rule, and I think it will foster creativity in the sub! i'm also just the sort of person who likes details and consideration of edge cases. i also don't wanna waste yall's time with false positives. ty for taking the time to answer! o7
"AI" upscaling is more or less algorithmic. Not really generative AI. Therefore, don't care. Won't remove. Probably won't notice
https://preview.redd.it/92lnjbfdj75g1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=baeb7a66af17c2b3cb273b283454726867f89b9e
w mods
Thank you so much
FUCK YEAH
I think regarding both AI and the karma farming that's been happening on here recently we can't rely on people just down voting the post because some people don't look at what subreddit they are in before engaging with a post so they'll upvote a post that really shouldn't be in a specific sub. Offending posts should be removed
Why wasn't this already a rule
honestly haven't seen anything made with ai on this sub, did I just miss it or something?
I haven’t seen any AI on here either, if I missed something then I’m glad I did
based
YEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
FINALLY
YIPPEEE
I used to dream for times like this
Big W
To clarify, if I have a dream about AI, can I still post about it?
yeah sure just don't be like "I had a dream about ai. here's what grok thought it would look like"
Thank you!!!
Ok, I will obey it👍🏼
hallelujah
Praise be
Good shit!! hopefully more places continue to follow. AI shit makes everything worse, especially in creative spaces
YEAAAAAAAAA
https://i.redd.it/ct0s6hqwbn5g1.gif
Good.
Sorry, but this response was blocked from our systems – try asking again diddyblud! 💀🫱
neutral with ai so i don't really give a shit in the first place
I sincerely hope you didn't use AI generated text to write that
this was already posted. cant believe mod is karma farming smh
I posted a poll asking for opinions like 4 days ago, if that's what you're thinking of. If someone else posted about a rule we decided on less than an hour before i made this post then congratulations on their gift of prophecy
I will not be gaslit
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grok, generate me a trademark symbol
We’re on Reddit. Grok can’t help you now :)
Oh yeah? Watch this! u/grok generate me studio glibgly
if you want me to be specific then we are banning the use of generative ai for image, text, and video submissions, with encouragement to instead try your hand in photoshop or mspaint or whatever medium you can think of. if you have some kind of esoteric application for machine learning or other algorithms or technologies under the "AI" umbrella then knock yourself out, but "no AI" is all i care to write to prevent people from just pasting their post title into gemini and posting whatever comes out
Don't worry, I don't have to know why ;)
I'm not sure if this is a good decision. AI can be very helpful for imagining dreams, especially for these who can't draw. While I understand quality concerns, I believe the situation can be dealt with more nuance.
I will take a shitty stick men sketch over AI any day. Those sloppy attempts have so much more soul than the attempted slop.
My dad got a stick man tattoo 25 years ago, and I have seriously considered getting the same thing.
you can draw. it came free with your motor cortex, parietal and occipital lobes, and the device you made this comment on
"Everyone has drawing dipshit, it came free with your fucking xbox"
Bold of you to assume ai bros use any of those besides the device lmao
Yes, majority of people do possess a very crude and simple drawing ability. But to draw or otherwise imagine certain concepts could require serious skill and effort, not everything can be done with stickmen or simple shapes. Especially as sometimes certain artstyles (e.g. anime) are a part of a dream, and to faithfully recreate an artstyle you have to essentially be an artist, something very few people are.
there's a beautiful and wonderful thing called stock images. they used to be easier to find, we took them with cameras, it was a whole process. they're still out there if you know where to look
anyways, yeah, sometimes you're gonna fall short of your creative vision. You might not believe me but a lot of people like using that as motivation to develop their skills. You should try it!
I thought using stock images was consideres "low effort"
that's if it's just one stock image
I dont want to steal other people's work
Good point! I would agree that encouraging users to put more effort in their posts can lead to higher quality of the subreddit overall. I'll note though that not everything can be described with stock images, and a lot of the times you have to pay to use these.
Also, thank you very much for your suggestion, and I'm proud to tell you that I'm already doing it! I myself am trying to further develop my artistic skills lately. I actually am an engineering graduate and as such I went through two semesters of engineering graphics, which taught me that you can draw anything, including even humans and animals, by merely combining simple 2D and 3D shapes such as lines, rectangles, cuboids, ellipses, pyramids and many others.
Drawing with a ruler, compass, templates and formulas. I do want to develop more on that, and maybe someday try to combine it with some of the anime style, as I'm a huge weeb 😅
Fingerpaint your idea and take a photo and everyone will appreciate it 100000x more than generating a sloppy earth killing idea strealing generated image
I’d rather see a stupid, awfully drawn, yet hilarious MS Paint dream than AI, it is a big part of the attractiveness of this sub.
Fr like that just makes it funnier?!
Nah, I’ll just do another crappy photoshop whenever I get around to it…
(Seriously, I have a dream that I’ve posted about on multiple places that I somehow haven’t turned into a plank post)
Using AI because you "can't draw" and refuse to try even the most basic artistic pursuit is like saying you "can't do math" and refusing to do addition or subtraction without a calculator as a result.
Don't care
Then don't say anything
This is like the third time this has been rule
wdym
Cringe.
Cringe.
Unbelievably relevant username. Checks out
this is hateful
I cannot stop laughing at this response. Do you actually believe that?
hahaha lol bigotry is so funny lmao
We are not at the oppression olympics. It's not bigotry. Using AI slop is entirely a choice. Not something you can't change such as your skincolor or stuff. Just don't use soulless, braincell-destryoing, environment-polluting AI and there won't be a problem.
Bigotry is the belief that a form of existence is inherently superior to some other form of existence, and the claim is backed up only by membership in the group that share thtis form of existence vs others, and a stack of lies and slander about that other group. you believe that a randomly assembled pile of neurons is inherently superior to an engineered arrangement thereof; The lies and slander about the other group is present in your belief system too, such as your untrue environmental harm claim.
now, would you kindly prove to me that humans have souls, or are you just making stuff up?
Found ChatGPT's Reddit account
"untrue environmental harm claim"
I think talking to you is pointless as long as you're ignorant af. AI will tell you there is no harm but that's just like how a predator will tell you it won't eat you. To then eat you. It's literally programmed to downplay the harm while REAL sources prove the harm.
the sources you cite as real are made up to create an illusion of harm in order to keep you angry and ignorant. seems like it's working. And allowing them to work on you, destroying your reasoning ability and mental health in the process, is a choice.
anyway i'm still waiting on your soul proof.
How is the environmental risk false?
in every possible way.
Come on, you're an AI fan. You couldn't have your LLM spit out some data?
I know we don't usually ask for proof of a negative, but you could easily show numbers saying that the amount of water a data center needs is exaggerated or the energy consumption is lower than reported. Assuming you had them, of course.
Bigotry 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah. I hate it when people don't even try to make something for themselves and have a chatbot do it for them.
this is the funniest cope I've seen so far
Ragebait ass comment
thanks for introducing yourself
No problem! Would do it again.
said by an ai bro
That one friend that's too woke
rip i am not going to make ai content, i don't think i will make much content here at all, but as a pro-ai person, rip
being pro-ai is genuinely inconceivable to me, get well soon