And he did it open handed too so it's not like he used his fist. Drunk people go down really really easy. I had a friend years ago who could be blown over by a stiff breeze after two drinks.
She simply pushed a car door into him.
To me he seems to be overreacting, you donāt have carte blanche to injure people that confront you physically.
he didnāt hit her very hard, sheās just was too drunk to stop herself from falling over or to stop her head from hitting the pavement. Actually looking back at the video, he barely even hit her. That was the most limp slap he couldāve given her
True in this specific case I dont think it would since the woman is of no threat and no weapons are involved. Tbh even if he pushed her away gently she's so drunk she would have fell hard anyways. He should have just gotten in and drove away
I can't think of a single state where a man 2x the size of an unarmed woman could invoke stand your ground and win.Ā It isn't a get out of jail free card.
This specific case isn't even relevant to stand your ground. I was speaking on usual self defense cases in general. Of course this guy wouldnt win. She's not armed either.
In some places that wouldnāt matter if his contact caused her to fall, hit her head and pass away. Iāve seen people get manslaughter/murder charges for exactly that while on a night out
I had an ex that would "just" push me and I should deal with it (aka do nothing). One time I fell down the stairs and had a delayed rupture of my sleep. A few days later I was nauseous and fainted. Found out I had to have it removed and now I'm immunocompromised for life.
You never know what damage a smaller person can inflict upon you the rest of your life. Don't be an aggressor.
Here's a really hard concept for someone like you...Maybe don't attack people and you won't get a consequence for your drunk actions. (Mind blowing I know). And stop Infantilizing women.
He simply defended himself. You donāt know how hard she sandwiched him between the metal car and car door and you donāt know how hard he pushed/punched her... When you tipsy itās easy to fall down.
She was committing assault damaging his property. He would never collect on the damages she was causing. People arenāt going to react in the precise level you find appropriate.
Iām saying we have to give deference to the notion that the perfect response in retrospect is easy. In real time it is much harder.
Ur right lol, when you weigh twice as much and are bigger than someone you do not need to meet a push of a door to a full punch. Her actions warranted a response but there was really no need to punch someone
Simply? Have you been in the situation hes in? He drew a line and respected himself by defending that line. Absolutely no one should come into your personal space, you have the right to retaliate and put off the person who thinks it's okay to cross that boundary and physically assault you.
He was absolutely right doing this.
yeah legally youāre right, at least in the UK.
They were clearly not a great threat to him, he had ample time to get into the car and leave the situation but didnāt.
This is a man who wanted to deck someone he knew he was bigger than. He wasnāt scared for his safety, and the pussys in the comments who act like he was are just borderline incels who want to see women get hit. These 2 women obviously are not nice people, but this is not a case of self defence, itās just 2 assaults.
if you have the agility to remove yourself and don't take it, and then become aggressive yourself, yes it does make it your fault. get in car. close door. drive away. he chose hit someone, he deserves consequences.
The next time I attack people I'll make sure to scream, "why aren't you running? You should be running!" Then I'll stand over them while their unconscious tell passersby, "they didn't run" and shrug.
Thatās some impressive mental gymnastics. How could he have known those ladies were going to attack him? How is that a normal situation for you that he should have prevented?
Not how the law works. The law doesnt say "you could have ran away or tried to hide, but you stood still and chose to defend yourself, therefore you are at fault".
Theres an easy argument that he was worried that if he got inside his car they'd attack him as he was entering (as he would have to turn away) or smashed the window.
Claiming he deserved consequences based on some imaginary law. You could make a case that his response was disproportional. But saying he is at fault for standing there to become a victim of aggression is just plain stupid.
Well, username checks out anyway. I'm gonna guess you don't think about shit you say very thoroughly before you say it. "the law"? which law? What state and municipality is this video in? Did you look it up and also look up the local ordinances about public fighting and self defense? Or are you just an emotional reactionary talking out of your ass?
He defended himself and she fell in her incredibly intoxicated state and hit her head. The last part of that is on her, and wouldnāt have happened if she wasnāt attacking the cab driver.
You would benefit from a fighting class. Itās useful in a real-life context to know what self-defense means. No matter what a bunch of keyboard warriors tell you, this was not self-defense for multiple reasons. Many people here want to lie to themselves and say it was not a reaction out of anger. Real self-defense means you have 0 other options, literally 0. Back is against the wall. Not a vehicle that you can get into and drive away.
The people in thread should at least be honest about what it actually is, an emotional compulsion for revenge. People here want to āget backā at this person, even if it means possibly killing them.
Iām so tired of seeing other men step in only when a woman is hit back. If you wonāt step in when the women is assaulting then donāt step in when the men defends himself. Men should support other men and step in when a man is being assaulted by a woman, and likewise when a man is assaulting a woman. Just because weāre men doesnāt mean we deserve to be hit and should take the hits, and obviously the same goes for women.
My Homie went through domestic violence for over 5 yrs and nobody did anything to help him, not even the police. Anybody that knew about the actual physical violence just ignored it or brushed it off as funny because he's built like a Mack truck and looks like that mean ass bouncer at the club! But because he was not scared of her and wasn't "hurt" by her physical assaults, the cops wouldn't arrest her. (She did so so so much more, including assaulting their kids, stooping so low as sucker punching her toddler in the head without warning numerous time.) CPS did nothing.
Anyway, I hate women who use their stature and gender as a free pass to assault men...
Obviously more often than not women are at an immense disadvantage compared to men, but the man in the video isnāt the one inciting violence, he defended himself and drove away. If he chose to keep hitting then it would be more justified to intervene. The point stands that nobody should be unjustly assaulted, but everyone is justified to defend themselves.
i agree, but a guy like him, getting hit by a tiny woman like that doesn't even feel like a slap, tbh. that's like backhanding a child at full force. for humans, men and women are extremely physically different, it's excessive force and shows a lack of self restraint tbh.
It doesnāt matter if it doesnāt hurt, doesnāt give anyone the right to wail on someone, ever! Your logic is deeply flawed. It shows a lack of self restrain to wail on someone just because you can. I can kill a person, I can burn down a religious building, I can hit a man or woman if I want to, but just because I can doesnāt mean I should, doesnāt mean itās okay. And furthermore if the accepted statement is that a man is always more than not stronger than a woman, why donāt women have the self restraint to not start a fight they more often than will lose and regret? They made their decisions and they had to face the consequences. Everyone deserves to feel the results of their choices, good or bad, regardless of their sexe or gender.
blah blah menimist drivel. i never said it's "okay" it's about using appropriate amount of force. you wouldn't slam dunk a child as a man, don't do it to a tiny woman. he should have just pushed her away or walked away.
idc if you're some salty virgin woman hater or whatever. it's cowardly as fuck.
Sheās an adult, are you insinuating a woman is a child compared to a man? Looks like the women had plenty of opportunity to walk away. And theyāre obviously intoxicated. He used a required amount of force and drove off. I find it funny you go straight to trying to insult me without knowing who I am, says a whole lot more about you. I find it funnier that you used such a comparison to completely victimize the women and make them appear to be innocent. The amount of force used wouldnāt have been necessary if they chose to back off. As you can see the man was the bigger person, he chose to leave the situation, meanwhile the other woman was more concerned with getting her hits in rather than check on her friend.
Interesting. Those where two women right? And thier male friends just stood there. They really must of been the hard core aggressors cus id NEVER just stand there and watch them get hit. Id fight the guy or stop them before they attacked him
I meanā¦her friend is laying unconscious on the sidewalk and sheās beating on a car. Something tells me this is a routine Friday night for these two.
I didn't know we were trying to hurt each other. I get it now, you were being a dick. Cool, cool.
Well for what it's worth myers-briggs is the equivalent of bullshit astrology wrapped up in pseudo-science, and anyone who gives it any attention is a fucking idiot
And as for your edit i want being defensive, I literally don't know whether it would be manslaughter or not. I just didn't want to say murder cause what I DO know is that murder requires intent
Are you projecting? Or gaslighting maybe? I don't remember trying to hurt you. But I also don't remember which comments I edit because I edit a lot of them, I tend to hit post a lot without finishing what I had to say, the only time I change the original comment is to edit a misspelled word.
Anyway, I could not care less about astrology and Mr. Briggs, and I have no more interest in responding at this point, it has swayed away from the original subject.
Dinner and a show
What a life
"Tonights premier: Johnny Depp in From Hell"
Looks like a good slice
Yup!
It's like a movie shoot/play, but REAL
They attacked him while drunk I assume. Should he not defend himself? Let himself get slapped around? A lot of simps here
And he did it open handed too so it's not like he used his fist. Drunk people go down really really easy. I had a friend years ago who could be blown over by a stiff breeze after two drinks.
Yeah the simp energy is unreal
She simply pushed a car door into him. To me he seems to be overreacting, you donāt have carte blanche to injure people that confront you physically.
he didnāt hit her very hard, sheās just was too drunk to stop herself from falling over or to stop her head from hitting the pavement. Actually looking back at the video, he barely even hit her. That was the most limp slap he couldāve given her
Thatās how you catch a murder charge tho
In America it depends on the state of stand your ground and such. Its a hassle here but idk about other countries
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True in this specific case I dont think it would since the woman is of no threat and no weapons are involved. Tbh even if he pushed her away gently she's so drunk she would have fell hard anyways. He should have just gotten in and drove away
I was arrested for manslaughter in a similar situation but dropped due to self defense.
I can't think of a single state where a man 2x the size of an unarmed woman could invoke stand your ground and win.Ā It isn't a get out of jail free card.
This specific case isn't even relevant to stand your ground. I was speaking on usual self defense cases in general. Of course this guy wouldnt win. She's not armed either.
Fair enough... I didn't see that you probably received a similar f/u that was deleted when I commented, sorry
Hey no worries no need to apologize. Sorry if I came on a little blunt there. I appreciate you
They attacked him and he never left from behind his car door. Its not like he went all in on her
In some places that wouldnāt matter if his contact caused her to fall, hit her head and pass away. Iāve seen people get manslaughter/murder charges for exactly that while on a night out
And āself defenseā is still a viable defense in those cases
I had an ex that would "just" push me and I should deal with it (aka do nothing). One time I fell down the stairs and had a delayed rupture of my sleep. A few days later I was nauseous and fainted. Found out I had to have it removed and now I'm immunocompromised for life.
You never know what damage a smaller person can inflict upon you the rest of your life. Don't be an aggressor.
Iām not advocating doing nothing as she clearly did some kind of attack, and am sorry to hear about your spleen.
You very explicitly advocated doing nothing
Wtf
the aggressor def was the woman. I agree. Do not do what this woman did.
Here's a really hard concept for someone like you...Maybe don't attack people and you won't get a consequence for your drunk actions. (Mind blowing I know). And stop Infantilizing women.
The infantalization of women is also used to oppress them. More people need to realize this. They have agency over their actions like anybody else.
He simply defended himself. You donāt know how hard she sandwiched him between the metal car and car door and you donāt know how hard he pushed/punched her... When you tipsy itās easy to fall down.
I had two ribs broken from a car door swinging back in on me. That was like 20yrs ago and I still feel it every time i sneeze.
Shit that sucks
Sry mate :(
Well, to me it looks pretty excessive. If they are able to find him, and police decides to press charges the courts can decide.
Ok brah
She was committing assault damaging his property. He would never collect on the damages she was causing. People arenāt going to react in the precise level you find appropriate.
Iām saying we have to give deference to the notion that the perfect response in retrospect is easy. In real time it is much harder.
Ur right lol, when you weigh twice as much and are bigger than someone you do not need to meet a push of a door to a full punch. Her actions warranted a response but there was really no need to punch someone
Wasn't a full punch. Wasn't even close. And he used his left. Dude held back big-time for you clowns to be talking about how much force he used
Nah he taught her not to do stupid shit. Kinda like how we got spankings as kids and acted right but now kids can't get spankings and they're F'n nuts
But isnāt that what she did? Lmao
So when he does it it's "overreacting with carte blanche to injure someone" but when she does it it's "confront physically"?
She deserved it though.
Simply??? !!!
Simply? Have you been in the situation hes in? He drew a line and respected himself by defending that line. Absolutely no one should come into your personal space, you have the right to retaliate and put off the person who thinks it's okay to cross that boundary and physically assault you. He was absolutely right doing this.
You mean she simply assaulted him. Defending yourself is not overreacting, and injuring someone that assaults you is legally justified in most places.
Hey man, there are a couple lines imo. One of those is venturing into the physical, once you do Iām allowed to join you there.
Ratioād to the nether realm
yeah legally youāre right, at least in the UK. They were clearly not a great threat to him, he had ample time to get into the car and leave the situation but didnāt. This is a man who wanted to deck someone he knew he was bigger than. He wasnāt scared for his safety, and the pussys in the comments who act like he was are just borderline incels who want to see women get hit. These 2 women obviously are not nice people, but this is not a case of self defence, itās just 2 assaults.
hes literally cowering behind a car door. a car he could have entered.
Cowering? He is just standing there discussing till the drunk ladies get violent. How on earth can you bend this towards a āhis faultā?
lol username checks out
if you have the agility to remove yourself and don't take it, and then become aggressive yourself, yes it does make it your fault. get in car. close door. drive away. he chose hit someone, he deserves consequences.
They chose to hit him first. They deserve consequences. You didnāt think this all the way through did you?
The next time I attack people I'll make sure to scream, "why aren't you running? You should be running!" Then I'll stand over them while their unconscious tell passersby, "they didn't run" and shrug.
They're*
Thatās some impressive mental gymnastics. How could he have known those ladies were going to attack him? How is that a normal situation for you that he should have prevented?
I'm sorry you feel that how the law works is 'mental gymnastics'
Not how the law works. The law doesnt say "you could have ran away or tried to hide, but you stood still and chose to defend yourself, therefore you are at fault".
Theres an easy argument that he was worried that if he got inside his car they'd attack him as he was entering (as he would have to turn away) or smashed the window.
Claiming he deserved consequences based on some imaginary law. You could make a case that his response was disproportional. But saying he is at fault for standing there to become a victim of aggression is just plain stupid.
Well, username checks out anyway. I'm gonna guess you don't think about shit you say very thoroughly before you say it. "the law"? which law? What state and municipality is this video in? Did you look it up and also look up the local ordinances about public fighting and self defense? Or are you just an emotional reactionary talking out of your ass?
people who are dumb think that the way the law works is what is morally correct.
using your line of logic, rosa parks should have just sat on in the back of the bus because it was the law.
I was with you until the guy above you made that point and you failed miserably to respond lol. Good try here!
She had the agility to remove herself, dumbass
She's not gonna smash bruh
Man stfu
Right! These poor 2 drunk girls are just kids they don't know what they're doing... Another one Infantilizing actions.
Always hate seeing people's heads hit concrete
Very easily can be deadly.
There wasn't a fencing response, so that's positive.
You mean the Tua tense up?
Yes, it is gross & unsettling. So I āhopeā she ājustā got knocked out like a boxer in a match? āCool.ā
/s ā¦ this is gross & unsettling
She is okay
How do you know?
The hungarian news made a big deal about this video and no one got hurt besides what we saw
Did the guy get in trouble?
They all :D
OK fair
Push a car door āļø Knockout concussion where someone has to check your pulse
He defended himself and she fell in her incredibly intoxicated state and hit her head. The last part of that is on her, and wouldnāt have happened if she wasnāt attacking the cab driver.
You would benefit from a fighting class. Itās useful in a real-life context to know what self-defense means. No matter what a bunch of keyboard warriors tell you, this was not self-defense for multiple reasons. Many people here want to lie to themselves and say it was not a reaction out of anger. Real self-defense means you have 0 other options, literally 0. Back is against the wall. Not a vehicle that you can get into and drive away.
The people in thread should at least be honest about what it actually is, an emotional compulsion for revenge. People here want to āget backā at this person, even if it means possibly killing them.
Be the friend who stands behind your friendsā¦ when theyāre about to get knocked the fuck out so that exact this doesnāt happen.
Be the friend that stops your friends from attacking other people
It's not as easy as that though. Being there to pick them up after their fall from grace is more realistic
Don't be friends with people who attack other people
It's always when the men start throwing hands that people intervene, how about you stop the ladies as well?
This is by far the most unfair standard. Female physical violence is considered socially acceptable.
Love to see it
Haha yes violence! āØ
Consequences for once actions, yes
Dinner & a Show. Eat that pizza, itās getting cold. Oh wait, you canāt, youāre making a videoā¦
Do The Same Next Time
Iām so tired of seeing other men step in only when a woman is hit back. If you wonāt step in when the women is assaulting then donāt step in when the men defends himself. Men should support other men and step in when a man is being assaulted by a woman, and likewise when a man is assaulting a woman. Just because weāre men doesnāt mean we deserve to be hit and should take the hits, and obviously the same goes for women.
Thank you for the rewards!
My Homie went through domestic violence for over 5 yrs and nobody did anything to help him, not even the police. Anybody that knew about the actual physical violence just ignored it or brushed it off as funny because he's built like a Mack truck and looks like that mean ass bouncer at the club! But because he was not scared of her and wasn't "hurt" by her physical assaults, the cops wouldn't arrest her. (She did so so so much more, including assaulting their kids, stooping so low as sucker punching her toddler in the head without warning numerous time.) CPS did nothing.
Anyway, I hate women who use their stature and gender as a free pass to assault men...
such is such a neckbeard reddit take. normal people will always intervene because the woman is often at an immense disadvantage
Obviously more often than not women are at an immense disadvantage compared to men, but the man in the video isnāt the one inciting violence, he defended himself and drove away. If he chose to keep hitting then it would be more justified to intervene. The point stands that nobody should be unjustly assaulted, but everyone is justified to defend themselves.
i agree, but a guy like him, getting hit by a tiny woman like that doesn't even feel like a slap, tbh. that's like backhanding a child at full force. for humans, men and women are extremely physically different, it's excessive force and shows a lack of self restraint tbh.
It doesnāt matter if it doesnāt hurt, doesnāt give anyone the right to wail on someone, ever! Your logic is deeply flawed. It shows a lack of self restrain to wail on someone just because you can. I can kill a person, I can burn down a religious building, I can hit a man or woman if I want to, but just because I can doesnāt mean I should, doesnāt mean itās okay. And furthermore if the accepted statement is that a man is always more than not stronger than a woman, why donāt women have the self restraint to not start a fight they more often than will lose and regret? They made their decisions and they had to face the consequences. Everyone deserves to feel the results of their choices, good or bad, regardless of their sexe or gender.
blah blah menimist drivel. i never said it's "okay" it's about using appropriate amount of force. you wouldn't slam dunk a child as a man, don't do it to a tiny woman. he should have just pushed her away or walked away.
idc if you're some salty virgin woman hater or whatever. it's cowardly as fuck.
Sheās an adult, are you insinuating a woman is a child compared to a man? Looks like the women had plenty of opportunity to walk away. And theyāre obviously intoxicated. He used a required amount of force and drove off. I find it funny you go straight to trying to insult me without knowing who I am, says a whole lot more about you. I find it funnier that you used such a comparison to completely victimize the women and make them appear to be innocent. The amount of force used wouldnāt have been necessary if they chose to back off. As you can see the man was the bigger person, he chose to leave the situation, meanwhile the other woman was more concerned with getting her hits in rather than check on her friend.
If you're at a disadvantage, how about you don't go around bothering people that are minding their own business?
Equality
Lmao stupid ass second guy immediately started saying "you dont hurt women" the moment she got pimp slapped but wouldnt have stepped in before
I hate idiots who do that, they'll be the first to pimp slap a woman if she hit though!
Equal rights and lefts!
equality means the second one gets knocked out too, but yeah equality
Those hands support gender equality obviously
'These hands are bisexual. Anyone can get 'em'
Some Black bouncer-looking dude on a yacht to an obnoxious Arab/Latina troublemaker in a video I saw today.
Poetry
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
As a Brit, I'm ashamed to say that the woman in the video was British. She spoke with an Essex accent
Its not the 2023USA, its Hungary 2030
dafaq
Good - hes being an ally with equalityš„°Ā
Johnny Lawrence, enjoying his pizza and not stepping in to defend Miguel; Cobra Kai: What If?
Uber has taxi looking cars??
In Hungary, by the law ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Interesting. Those where two women right? And thier male friends just stood there. They really must of been the hard core aggressors cus id NEVER just stand there and watch them get hit. Id fight the guy or stop them before they attacked him
I meanā¦her friend is laying unconscious on the sidewalk and sheās beating on a car. Something tells me this is a routine Friday night for these two.
It's like a movie/play, but REAL......it's like popcorn, but pizza.
What you get with uber instead of a verified taxi.
Thats the reason of my post.
This a Taxi.
Someone get her a pillow and a blanket, she's all tuckered out.
Damn i love seeing almost manslaughter on my reddit feed (assuming she did live)
She is okay mate
That's why I said almost manslaughter are you dumb?
Wtf are you on about.
Theyre answering you about your assumption.
You also said assume, are you dumb?
Rude..they just clarified something for you.
That wouldn't be manslaughter...dude is literally retreating while they are attacking...That would be self defense.
What am I a lawyer?
I sure hope not!
It wasn't a question anyway, why are you being defensive?
What an INTJ thing to say
Uh, ok. Ow?
I didn't know we were trying to hurt each other. I get it now, you were being a dick. Cool, cool.
Well for what it's worth myers-briggs is the equivalent of bullshit astrology wrapped up in pseudo-science, and anyone who gives it any attention is a fucking idiot
And as for your edit i want being defensive, I literally don't know whether it would be manslaughter or not. I just didn't want to say murder cause what I DO know is that murder requires intent
Are you projecting? Or gaslighting maybe? I don't remember trying to hurt you. But I also don't remember which comments I edit because I edit a lot of them, I tend to hit post a lot without finishing what I had to say, the only time I change the original comment is to edit a misspelled word.
Anyway, I could not care less about astrology and Mr. Briggs, and I have no more interest in responding at this point, it has swayed away from the original subject.
Sounds like someone needs a nap..
Gender equality in action.
Good for him
If someone is kicking your car door like that lady, open the door really fast just as the kick is about to land.
Equality Street.
Looks like a wild night out
He was 100% justified in his response. She committed battery first. She was drunk and disorderly. He hardly even tapped her.
Stupid hurts.
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Equal rights, equal fights.
Deserved.
Were the girls fighting each other at first? Obviously drunk.
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What the fuck is on that pizza?
How did she even go KO from a light slap, so fake
Hahahahh . Skkrrrt
Fangt nur KƤmpfe an, die ihr auch gewinnen kƶnnt. -Bruce Lee
What
Bro checking her pulse lmao
She fell funny
I got u, Martin Scorsese is a great director BUT that line was improvised btw in the movie: The Departed by Jack Nicholson
I use it often haha
AI but ok.
No