We feel bad because things are bad. Even if we are wrong, the fact we are wrong is also a bad thing so we should be concerned anyways.
Even Psychosis doesn't invalidate sensations. Just because there are not aliens trying to mindcontrol you through radio signals, it doesn't mean there aren't people trying to manipulate you through media.
There is a concept in sociology that's called the "Thomas theorem" which can be boiled down to: "Thoughts & feelings have real life consequences." Meaning, it doesn't matter that a situation isn't as we perceive it for us to have it impact us.
Discrimination is a big example. It doesn't matter that the black guy in his car is just a random innocent guy in his car. The (racist) police guy will treat him according to his negative prejudice and not according to the situation at hand.
I'm glad if it helps people, and maybe it could be helpful to me too in some specific situation, where I'm spiraling about absolutely ridiculous stuff, but often it's about some genuine worry and even if the things I fear might not be super likely, the likelihood isn't 0%, so I just wouldn't believe that statement?
You’re right that it is a legitimate grounding tool, its just not one that would work for everyone, it wouldn‘t work for me even if I’m safe simply because of how I spiral and what triggers it.
I feel like most of this subreddit is general mental health advice or inspirational quotes that obviously are not meant to "cure" or undermine the severity of anyone's mental illness. Isn't mindfulness and trying to ground yourself in your present physical safety a legitimate part of anxiety management?
If you're not safe then you know the message doesn't apply to you. It's clearly talking about mental spirals that occur when you're physically safe. Caveats don't need to be added to everything
Hoooo boi. I have dealt with Paranoia for most of my life, and this line of thinking of OOP's has almost gotten me killed when I was young. It wouldn't be surprising if it was still killing poor people who don't know any better.
Funny thing is, I'm not safe, I'm a woman, a cocaine addict wants me dead, I've been close to dangerous people that if they learn a few things from some other people will want me dead, and I absolutely DO NOT trust the police because they raided my home, stole my drugs and brought me to court to make me pay for stealing my drugs.
Literally anyone could be reading that right now what if they’re genuinely not safe, they could be in a war zone, have a deadly disease, be living in extreme poverty and threatened by starvation, be at risk of gang violence or they could be living with an abuser, or maybe someone wants to kill them. There are several reason for many people who are reading this to not be safe.
Yeah no, see I know that I'm physically safe. Like I'm not a caveman fending off predators or something and I am very thankfull for that. But that still doesn't afford my next meal.
No im not thats why im spiraling! Im broke, terrified of love, and living in a world trying to actively destroy itself with war, hatred, and commercialized stupidity enhanchers we call AI, not to mention the other hundred minor irritations in my life.
Another issue: this is just objectively false sometimes.
Sometimes you are NOT safe. Just unsafe. There isn't any way around it. So accepting it is the only way
We feel bad because things are bad. Even if we are wrong, the fact we are wrong is also a bad thing so we should be concerned anyways.
Even Psychosis doesn't invalidate sensations. Just because there are not aliens trying to mindcontrol you through radio signals, it doesn't mean there aren't people trying to manipulate you through media.
There is a concept in sociology that's called the "Thomas theorem" which can be boiled down to: "Thoughts & feelings have real life consequences." Meaning, it doesn't matter that a situation isn't as we perceive it for us to have it impact us.
Discrimination is a big example. It doesn't matter that the black guy in his car is just a random innocent guy in his car. The (racist) police guy will treat him according to his negative prejudice and not according to the situation at hand.
This feels like "Be thankful!" With extra bullshit.
No, its a grouding thought to repeat in your head. It can help mitigate mental health spirals and stop them if you groud them early enough.
Sure, but this isn't helpful for people who aren't safe. Safety isn't a "simple truth" for everybody.
It can help if you are truly safe. Some people are not safe, and this can be seriously hurtful.
I'm glad if it helps people, and maybe it could be helpful to me too in some specific situation, where I'm spiraling about absolutely ridiculous stuff, but often it's about some genuine worry and even if the things I fear might not be super likely, the likelihood isn't 0%, so I just wouldn't believe that statement?
You’re right that it is a legitimate grounding tool, its just not one that would work for everyone, it wouldn‘t work for me even if I’m safe simply because of how I spiral and what triggers it.
Except not even always applicable. I'm sure many people are reading this and are not actually safe.
Can be useful. It ain’t for me since no, I’m not safe. And my mind is only spiralling because I’m not safe.
this one needs the right context to be helpful
This advice is basically how I handle CPTSD. I ground myself in the present moment and tell myself im safe. 🤷♂️
I feel like most of this subreddit is general mental health advice or inspirational quotes that obviously are not meant to "cure" or undermine the severity of anyone's mental illness. Isn't mindfulness and trying to ground yourself in your present physical safety a legitimate part of anxiety management?
Someone might not be safe though.
If you're not safe then you know the message doesn't apply to you. It's clearly talking about mental spirals that occur when you're physically safe. Caveats don't need to be added to everything
…safe, with a spiraling mind? Haha.
*Checks my gender status*
*Looks at the anti-trans shitfuckery happening worldwide*
"ummmmmmmmmm.........."
This specific advice has been very helpful for me in part of learning to manage my cPTSD symptoms
But... am I?
I find that tangible helps more w grounding
Hoooo boi. I have dealt with Paranoia for most of my life, and this line of thinking of OOP's has almost gotten me killed when I was young. It wouldn't be surprising if it was still killing poor people who don't know any better.
Being hunted for sport by the oligarchs of our world, don't worry, just remember you are safe
Ah, but what about if I'm not safe - or is that all in my head too?
Is this AI Comic Sans?? It feels slightly off
Most of everything that gets posted on here is stuff my case manager would say.
Like this.
Deny deny deny
She’s terrible
Funny thing is, I'm not safe, I'm a woman, a cocaine addict wants me dead, I've been close to dangerous people that if they learn a few things from some other people will want me dead, and I absolutely DO NOT trust the police because they raided my home, stole my drugs and brought me to court to make me pay for stealing my drugs.
TLDR: I'm not safe.
Yes I can just cure cancer with positive thoughts alone 🌟 /s obviously
wow i really feel safe crossing a trafficked road with crippling depression thanks i didn't now that
(I'm not actually suicidal, it's just an example)
You are safe is a new low holy shit
Literally anyone could be reading that right now what if they’re genuinely not safe, they could be in a war zone, have a deadly disease, be living in extreme poverty and threatened by starvation, be at risk of gang violence or they could be living with an abuser, or maybe someone wants to kill them. There are several reason for many people who are reading this to not be safe.
Hehe… if only the “simplest truth” was even FUCKING TRUE!!!! … it’s not
Am I safe from my mind though? Hmmm
yea gang because i am ALWAYS safe. no. no im not
Instructions unclear: what if i am not safe
Am I really safe? Is that true? The author is making a huge assumption based upon the misinformed idea that everyone is naturally in a safe space.
They don’t know who I have been messing with and they don’t know about Jimmy One-thumb or his pliers! Safe! Right! 😬🤣🤡
God, where can I find the asshole responsible for this so I can remind them that safety is fleeting?
mfw in a burning building cornered by the gas fire:
My brother in Christ, I'm not safe, i am the danger in question
Yeah no, see I know that I'm physically safe. Like I'm not a caveman fending off predators or something and I am very thankfull for that. But that still doesn't afford my next meal.
What if you're just not though, for example having to live with abusive parents?
No im not thats why im spiraling! Im broke, terrified of love, and living in a world trying to actively destroy itself with war, hatred, and commercialized stupidity enhanchers we call AI, not to mention the other hundred minor irritations in my life.
I am not safe
lmao. could’ve forgone the last word, it would be true then. not easy to do, but true. this is just stupid.