Is that a red flag? Are they bs or just twisting the meanings in order not to deliver a truth that could drive the viewer away?
Also a lot of them only show the cards when they're already drawn, they could be doing anything on the table or they could have already drawn cards in advance. Do you think it's being paranoid to think that or red flag for not showing everyhting?
There's also those who show a little to much of their body, clearly using it for attention. Again, total bs, or just adding a touch for views ?
Where do you stand on all that? Trying to decide who I can trust or not in that space, and how to identify them. Thank you.
They are there for the clicks. Negative readings won’t bring back people looking for what they want to hear.
They're toxic is what they are.
We don't need to be morose 24/7 but life simply isn't good vibes only and readings can't be either.
Tarot encompasses all of our experience.
Yes I think it can be quite toxic to always tell people that they're doing good no matter what's happening. It can be dangerous no to gives the warnings.
Yes. And people shouldn't be fed this idea that there are only good things ahead and that we are always doing amazingly well. A part of being a healthy adult is understanding that you are not always awesome and that life sucks a lot of the time. We are not doing people any favors by feeding their delusions.
Yeah, there's a reader whom I love but lately she's been very into like pitting the viewer against someone in their life, and always putting the viewer on a pedestal. And I don't like it. Like the viewer always has the moral high ground in her readings etc... never being questioned.
What’s channel?
Yes and no, use your own judgement and filter the content you consume. There are absolutely people out there who sell fantasy and prey on desperation. There are also people who naturally see the glass half full and therefore, strive to share the good news and to support and encourage. I would ask yourself why certain content stirs strong emotions. Is it something you subconsciously desire, repress, or reject? But honestly, learning tarot and doing your own readings is the way to go.
I already have a deck, I was thinking about it... Is it more difficult to be accurate when doing it for ourselves?
I find it easier, because we know ourselves better. The most difficult part is detaching from emotions, asking the right question, staying with the question throughout the interpretation, and accepting any answer as food for thought. As a beginner, I used to struggle with it. It got easier over the years.
The best way to tell is to check their content for patterns. Are they always delivering the same or similar message? Are the exes always coming back? Do they frequently draw the same cards? If so, yeah, they're full of hot air, and I've seen an influx in these types of social media readers. The truth doesn't get clicks. Pretty sure there's even been posts on this sub from people who thought their social media reader was only sunshine and rainbows just to have them switch it up when they actually paid for a reading, too. Vet everyone.
Yes indeed when I look at their video titles across a long period of time, it's always positive statements, and we're always doing good, and everything is always on the way. Even when a difficulty is mentionned, it's because we're already handle it wonderfully. All sunshine and/or praises.
What do you mean by "always positive". I'm an optimist and try to have my clients see even difficult cards like the Tower, Death, etc as something good. For example, with the Tower I may tell people that s*it may hit the fan, but in the end they will be better off. I don't think that positivity is a red flag. If the reader is constantly saying that your ex will come back to you, etc, that is definitely a red flag.
I mean that every video title is always something positive and they turn everything that way. They never say that s*it may hit the fan, or to be careful about this or that. It's always everything will improve, abundance is coming, change is on the way, you're doing it, you're the best, you're overcoming, etc.
And as they do daily readings, it becomes hard to believe, even if sometimes you happen to watch them in a period of your life where it's true.
I understand their business end of it, however morally questionable it is. Titles need to get people interested. If they are getting compensation, greed can be a powerful thing.
Truthfully, nobody needs a daily reading unless it's a one or two card energy of the day or gratitude reading. It's unfortunate that people feed off of others who crave that kind of entertainment. Perhaps discovering that those types of readings are only entertainment is the lesson some of those viewers are meant to learn.
+1
Use and follow readers you like. Ignore the ones you don’t. The internet is full of the entire spectrum of readers. From schlocky con artists trying to sell you a hex removal to the purist, won’t even take a donation practitioner. They pick the deck that makes them comfortable. They pull cards the way that works for them and assign the meanings they want to use.
There is zero value in doing a deep dive into why someone reads in a way that makes you uncomfortable.
Yeah and they are not reading with integrity....
Each deck of cards has negative cards within it. Those will turn up in a reading if it's shit news - I've watched YouTubers deal cards and blatantly tell lies.
I just think they don't want the blood on their hands if there's any come back from delivering bad news, I'm sure that's why stick to the sunny side. Let's face it, there's some really vulnerable people out there who constantly seeking the tarot
Where I stand: everyone on YouTube is for entertainment purposes only. Especially the ones who say they’re highly psychic/clairvoyant.
I watch them from time to time for the positive energy.
“Trust” therefore is an interesting word to use with an entertainer. Ive seen some good entertainers on there with highly accurate descriptions of my experiences.
Eg: a woman (sorry can’t remember her channel) had a psychic vision of her audience members leaving at night with something valuable tucked under their arm. And that absolutely did describe me at the time, and almost fifty others in the comment section.
But, this isn’t a reading of me no matter how personal I felt it was to me. She built an audience by getting just enough details right.
What I learned is that though my life experiences are unique to me, I’m hardly special.
And that’s my only advice to you about readings on YouTube, the more you feel they are personally directed to you the more likely it is you have found an excellent entertainer.
And yes, not showing shuffle and dealing cards would be a red flag to me.
They don’t have to be face channels but I do like to see the cards are honourably drawn.
Haven’t seen many “show off the body” as you’ve described. But I’ve noticed the nails on the women. You can tell they don’t work!
Btw, a highly recommended channel I love going back to is Minnow Pond. His entertainment style is informative. And he uses multiple decks in one reading.
Very interesting point, thank you!
Minnow Pond is good, especially for business prospects, and so is 13 Moon. 13 Moon named the extremely unusual name of an ancestor in tandem with a cardinal bird that had been visiting me after my mother died. It made me a bit less skeptical about YT readers.
Thank you for the recommendation. I’ll look ‘em up ❤️
A negative can be turned into a positive...just because the cards say something negative, the next part is the advice or solution. It takes a little more work, but I feel like honesty is how you build clients who trust you...
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I mean, I see them as sources of hope. Cause bad things happening doesn’t mean you should not have hope that things will get better, that you’ll weather the storm, etc etc. Clarity can give us the tools to have that hopeful outcome.
Thank you. I indeed think that we should be given the full picture of the reading, unaltered by any bias. Because yes, there are people who want to hear only good news, but there's also those who want to know if their choices are appropriate, or at least what to expect from their current course, because sunshine always casts shadows too.
I tend to use the same standard meanings for the cards whatever the deck, due to this problem; I have many books on tarot and just gathered the meanings from all of them into my own Scrivener file. That way I don’t fall into any one author’s bias.
I create content on TikTok about occultism, cryptozoology, and ufology. The thing is, my algorithm always shows me several content creators dedicated solely to Tarot, and most of them are either very egocentric or very closed-minded to the point that they only want to be right and any other tarot reader is wrong.
What do you mean by always showing their body?
Since when does tarot reading come with a dress code?
I mean clearly putting lightly dressed specific body parts into focus, like breasts, legs or even crotch. Very obviously on purpose, like only 1 button done on a tight shirt, legs spread in front of the camera with a tiny short, any manner of showing cleavage, etc.
I mean..seems like you’re taking extreme detail of all of that. Can’t police how people dress babe. All you can do is choose to interact with those specific ones.
But complaining about how they dress is moot.
There’s no dress code. If they want to do that they can. Literally just don’t subscribe to their services I would say~
Indeed. It's not a complaint, the op was an overall question regarding some unnecessary and/or questionnable added practices : can they still be trusted in their reading, are they just adding that for a few views more but with genuine readings, or is it a red flag altogether and should be avoided?
I supposed it's apectrum and some are genuine, and some are a total scam. It's just hard to discern.
But since getting answers here and reflecting on all of it, it's kind of clearer now. Like for example they have to do daily readings for the algorithm, but in many case that's way too frequent for viewers. Most tarot entertainers share only the positive and nothing else, which is biased by default, and after having watched a lot of them, some always deliver the same kind of messages. I guess it come down to : do you want to hear only reassuring statements, or do you want to hear the balanced truth, warnings, and advice?
I see what you’re getting at.
Personally, I’m someone who’s worked my entire life in competitive sales. And what I’ve learned is, you do what gets you paid.
How you dress can set a tone and standard absolutely, but in the world of tarot and other spiritual practices, what one wears even to self promote, is a minute detail to withhold over the integrity and skill set of the reader.
If I’m going for a tarot reading I’m not going to look at how they’re dressed. Most readers dress like typical dirty hippies or blue haired liberal teenagers anyway. I have no interest in those aesthetics in any part of my life, however I don’t let that deter me from what they may know and can assist with.
Some women have read for me completely ass the fuck naked lol. It’s just their thing. Others put their boobs in my face. I attract women, even though I’m not attracted to women. So for me I have to always just filter through it. I don’t have time to assume it’s part of their tactic. I just have to assume it’s something about me making them want to present themselves that way or behave that way. Which it typically is.
On YouTube however idk, I haven’t noticed what these people wear but at a distance they all look the same to me. Scarfs, rings, chunky rock jewelry, bangles to the shoulders, toe rings and belly piercings. I literally cannot tell you how many of them dress like that, and believe it or not, those are the ones I immediately deem as bullshit.
Too cliche. Too stereotypical. Too commercial. And it’s revealed to me that’s exactly the case.
Meanwhile the more gritty and raw ones, the ones that don’t look like typical tarot practitioners, those are the ones that always surprise me and earn my follow.
I follow people that look like they came straight out of Nas’ movie Belly that read cards and don’t miss. I follow people like look like your typical Karen almond soccer mom who wears Chester sweaters and broaches who are badass readers, and I have people I follow who look like midnight ballerinas.
The clothes don’t matter to the art. Pay attention to the words they speak~
Indeed I also tend to avoid the stereotypical in the spiritual domain. Great advice and insight, thank you for taking the time.
I liked this discussion.
It was a pleasure conversing with you 🤍
I read tarot and I'm always positive. But that's just how i approach life. Every day is an opportunity to be positive. If a card is "negative", i see it as an opportunity for growth.