How does Mattéo Guendouzi compare to Fenerbahçe's current midfielders?
Guendouzi vs İsmail Yüksek, Fred & Edson Álvarez
Key insights:
• Highest pass accuracy among all 4
• Different profile - less defensive, more progressive
• Could complement the current midfield options
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🏆 Europa League Midfielder Comparison:
🔵 Lazio (24/25 season)
Mattéo Guendouzi
🟡 Fenerbahçe (25/26 season)
İsmail Yüksek • Fred • Edson Álvarez
In another league, under different coach and different role. Tedesco wanted him over other candidates, and under tedesco players have been better. I think we should first watch him in pitch and then we can have better opinions.
Stats like this have to be taken with a grain of salt. It is often about the role given to the players at least as much as players' qualities. If the coach wants him to be more defensive this will change a lot for example.
Exactly. Stats show role and quality (e.g. not all players are born to give assists), not ceiling. Guendouzi's numbers changed completely between Marseille (pressing) and Lazio (possession). The value is his versatility to adapt to whatever Tedesco needs. 🎯
Stats like this shouldnt be taken for anything.
Different leagues, different teams, different plans and roles.
If you compare Fred and Aytaç Kara at 23/24 season like this you might see Fred has less stats and it doesnt mean anything when you already watch the games and know that Fred couldnt be compared to him.
serie a vs süper lig, compare his 24/25 UEL vs current FB UEL
Updated the post with a comparison for Europa League (Lazio 24/25 vs Fenerbahce 25/26)
Guendouzi is the most complete midfielder in this comparison. İsmail Yüksek shows similar potential.
If Ismail was a spaniard, we would kiss his feet. But the turkish-player-anti-bias is in full effect.
Ismail lacks some creativity, tbf
Thats ok, he is just a box to box or a ballwinning midfielder, not necessarily a playmaker like Veerman, for a recent example
the problem is the small sample size of what 8-10 games at best?
What I saw today in the Lazio match:
He definitely likes to make overlapping runs into the box and likes to run into space in general. He likes to cross from half spaces in the opponents 3rd. He doesn’t shy away from breaking the press with a little dribble. He DEFINITELY likes to trash talk while the game is going on and wind up opponents. He likes to press the ref and confront him when he thinks he made a mistake, almost like a 2nd captain. He is definitely a player that wants to contribute to the attack, even if he drifts away from his initial position. He has strong presence in the box while taking corners through his height, determination and strength. Overall definitely a fighter type of guy in tackles.
Thats what I saw in this particular game
So what I gather from this is that he basically isn't an upgrade worth 30 m ? Seems just slightly better in a few aspects ...
Fair point, but context matters in my opinion:
Serie A vs Süper Lig - Guendouzi's stats are against tougher opposition (Inter, Juventus, Napoli, AC Milan, Atalanta, etc.). Similar numbers in a harder league = actual upgrade in my opinion.
Age factor - Guendouzi is 26, entering peak years. Resale value potential vs aging squad options.
€30M is the market - That's what proven Serie A midfielders cost. İsmail would cost €25M+ if Fenerbahçe sold him today.
Fener needed a box-to-box, not another destroyer or pure playmaker. He's the missing piece, not a replacement.
Is he 3x better? No. Is he the right profile at market price? Probably yes. 🎯
Sorry but peaked early, he is out of his prime right now. He was once considered a “wonderkid”.
Everybody with a brain knows that he is not a upgrade. I watch his match at the moment. He does nothing just run left to right on the Field and nonsence pressing without winning the ball.
He done 1-2 okay passes but i already see he pass the ball often back to defender/ goalie.
His First touch is not good.
His pace is good.
If I was lazio I would change him with ismail. They would think How stupid can you be? Because ismail is Miles ahead of this mediocre player.
Dont forget Ismail destroy Croatia alone but because he is not ismailinho he is not a good player for Turkish people.
Someone made a point about him probably not giving his best since he already has a deal in place to join FB. His past matches would be more telling.
Agree that Ismail is an underrated gem.
ismail is a warrior, but lacks technical capabilities. they often say; turkish players play with their heart. ismail is a proven example. but guendouzi has more flair if u ask me, and is also a fighter on the field, more or less. i think that the toxicity in turkish league will make him a better player; bc here ur mental capabilities are more worth than anything. he won’t be a your new appiah whom u probably are longing for years, but he’s quite a leader type of a player which can be your melo in derby’s; the kind of player u guys are missing in big matches. isn’t a bad player, but also not outstanding in anything. however, he isnt worth 30 million. that’s a heavy burden on him. would prefer veerman tbh. still wondering why that transfer collapsed.
Doesnt tell us anything
It's one piece of the puzzle. It doesn't show everything But "nothing"?
For me it shows İsmail is a tackler, Fred a creator, Guendouzi more balanced. That's not nothing - it's context. The rest needs the eye test.
But it doesn’t show what role he plays in the team, who he plays with and how it affects his role, the league and defences he plays against etc.
Also doesn’t show maybe the most important part about Guendouzis game which is progressing the ball. If he’s given enough freedom he’ll help Fener with progressing the ball with his passes and his dribbling.
Fenerin orta daha takoz oyuncu dolu. İsmail, Bertuğ, Alvarez, Fred hepsi kazma. Mert Hakan kazması da hapiste. Bu Guendouzi de kazma
Ismail would start for you btw
Delusional comment. Sure, he would be playing instead of Torreira, Ilkay, Lemina, Sara...
not a chance what are u saying lol
maybe the u19 team?
Sure definitely would start over a 35 gundogan or sara buddy
He wouldnt lol. id argue even kaan ayhan starts over ismail. only player ismail could be starting over from our team would be Berkan Kutlu, bro aint even on our team anymore tho lol
Best keep in mind that he plays in a top 5 league vs our glorious turkcell super lig hiiiiç bitmezsiin
fuck yes. keep posting brother.
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Tedesco is building a team dedicated on intense passing play, so we can say he found the best candidate. I don't know if it's worth the 30 million though.