This thing just amazes me when I see photos showing a person. To see the size comparison. I wished we had better documentation on this sub. Interior pictures especially. While they exist the total content is minimal
This is great! It looks like they let Russian citizens do tours of these or something? So sad that Russia is scrapping/has scrapped their Typhoons. They would make incredible museums.
Regarding museums, Dmitry Donskoi is likely to become one. However, until Putin is still alive and Russians continue doing their shit, I would never try to visit Russian Federation.
Those doors, sir, ARE the problem. I don’t know what they are, neither do the British. Perhaps our friends in Murmansk have come up with something new.
"I will marry a round American woman and she will cook rabbits for me. I might even have a...Pick up truck, possibly maybe even....(Swallows with excitement)..A Recreational vehicle, and drive state to state. Do they let you do that? No papers?"
Citation from r/NormalDayInRussia to anyone who would like to see Typhoons closer:
“Also, in Severodvinsk there is a hole in the fence that is going around military port (at least it was for years) so anyone could get close to atomic submarines. And that hole existed why? Because of fishing! People wanted to catch a fish and it was the shortest way to the sea shore”
Russians say it is not so restricted (see my comment above). However, I would not recommend looking for a hole in the fence which is going around Severodvinsk Naval base.
I understand the sentiment, President Eisenhower shared it. To paraphrase from memory: He said every medium bomber built meant 8 middle schools didn’t get built.
But the scale of what we spend on the military here (3% GDP) just doesn’t compare to what the Soviets were spending (25% GDP at least, often much more)
The Soviets never reached Communism. They gave that up as early as 1923. What they ended up with was what political science professors call a Leninist mobilization economy.
And the punchline? They could mobilize to build incredible machines like the Typhoon SSBN but couldn’t keep grocery store shelves stocked at the same time.
Basic consumer goods are quite available in the US. Affordability is a question, but that is a different issue.
I'm not going to defend the efficiency of our healthcare system (one of the most expensive in the world by % of per capita GDP - we top that list, without necessarily better outcomes), but you can't correlate that with availability of consumer products.
Interestingly, the only countries that outspend us by % of per capita GDP are Afghanistan, Tuvalu and Nauru. I would not have expected that.
they just announced this year that 1 of them (cant remember which) will be turned into a Museum ship. There is 1 still on limited service as a test platform for certain launchers, missiles and such. the others are decommissioned waiting to scrap i believe.
TK-208 was the test platform for the RSM-56 SLBM. It is retired and slated to be become a museum ship. TK-17 and TK-20 have been laid up at Severodvinsk for around two decades. All other units have been scrapped.
TK-208 was in active service as a test platform less than a year ago.
TK-17 and TK-20 haven't moved since 2009. You can scroll all the way back on Google Earth historic images and find them there. Missile tubes were opened separately in 2016 then 2018. They're officially slated to be scrapped at this point.
Don’t they cut out the nuclear compartment to decommission a vessel? And yes, you are probably right Russian subs are not a kind of clean room environment.
I couldn’t see that man way entering the pressure hull.
Pressure hulls. Two primary longitudinal pressure hulls that run most of the length of exterior(outer) hull. A control pressure hull that is easily visible in pictures below the sail, plus one for the steerage/rudder and for the torpedo room.
A bit pedantic as I'm sure that is a free flood space.
The thing that most people look at with these is the size, but in reality due to the way the pressure hulls are separated and don't include the tubes, inside they aren't massive.
In my view they have a less or very similar amounts of internal space as a UK or US ssbn. Yeah they have a bath, but we have stupid shit too like a study area, library, beer store, gym space etc.
Think of all that wasted space on a V boat.. loads of wasted space in the MC, the MCC passageway isn't needed at all, that stupid walkway behind the upper bunk space heads, MC1 deck!
Jesus the MCC and the Nav centre, a massive waste of space. Designed by yanks probably - as part of the PSA
I sincerly wish that Russians in a not too distant future do a course correction to democracy and friendly relations with other democracies.
They are planning making one of the Typhoons to a museum, and I would very much like to visit but not as long Russia is in the current state of Mordor.
Album pulled together years ago, don't remember the OG source. I'm fascinated by the behemoth:
https://imgur.com/gallery/soviet-typhoon-class-submarine-h5atY
Incredible, thanks!
This is great! It looks like they let Russian citizens do tours of these or something? So sad that Russia is scrapping/has scrapped their Typhoons. They would make incredible museums.
Those photos are ~ 20 year old.
Regarding museums, Dmitry Donskoi is likely to become one. However, until Putin is still alive and Russians continue doing their shit, I would never try to visit Russian Federation.
Thanks for sharing this
Are there any other albums like this for any other boats? Russian or American doesn’t matter
/u/vepr157 has a decade old post on the Typhoon-class with over 120 images. Plenty of other interesting images on his profile.
Hope this post gets seen by more people. It's priceless content
These things' hull plating makes it look like the aesthetic of Combine technology.
wow...very cool stuff. thanks for sharing!
Thank You for this
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Big sunnuva bitch
“12 meters longer than the standard Typhoon. 3 meters wider.”
What are those doors?
Those doors, sir, ARE the problem. I don’t know what they are, neither do the British. Perhaps our friends in Murmansk have come up with something new.
Couldn’t they simply be maintenance access hatch doors to access the rudder mechanism?
“Could you fire an ICBM horizontally?”
Sure but why would you want to?
Do they look ICBM sized? Wow. Downvoted for putting a simple theory forward. This sub has become inundated with non submariners and wankers.
You sir need more Red October meme in your life.
He could be a god damn cook!
Brother we will sail south where the sun is warm, and so is the...Comradeship!
I should like to keep rabbits.
"I will marry a round American woman and she will cook rabbits for me. I might even have a...Pick up truck, possibly maybe even....(Swallows with excitement)..A Recreational vehicle, and drive state to state. Do they let you do that? No papers?"
"No papers, state to state."
This sub has been inundated with HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER quotes every time there is an image of a Typhoon… whoooosh
As is tradition.
Ah, you noticed that...
Two decommissioned ones here on Google maps if you are interested https://maps.app.goo.gl/1ZKRt7qhDcv4fjEx5?g_st=ipc
There's a third tied up alongside the Kirov a little east of those two, really shows the scale of how big they are.
You're not kidding. The Kirov is big.
Citation from r/NormalDayInRussia to anyone who would like to see Typhoons closer:
“Also, in Severodvinsk there is a hole in the fence that is going around military port (at least it was for years) so anyone could get close to atomic submarines. And that hole existed why? Because of fishing! People wanted to catch a fish and it was the shortest way to the sea shore”
Are they just anchored there chilling for anyone to see? Is it accessible?
Tk-17 and 20 have been berthed there for 20 years. Kirov-class Pyotr Velikiy and Tk-208 are much more recent.
Accessible? As to the public? No. That is the SevMash shipyard and a Russian naval base. It is a highly restricted and controlled area.
Russians say it is not so restricted (see my comment above). However, I would not recommend looking for a hole in the fence which is going around Severodvinsk Naval base.
"Not so restricted" meaning you have to get a visitor pass or something?
You try fist and let us know how it works out 😁
This is why Russians couldn’t find shoes or other basic consumer goods in the 80’s
They should've sailed south where the sun is warm, and so is the...comradeship!
True, which is ironic because people say the same thing now about the U.S. and Healthcare.
I understand the sentiment, President Eisenhower shared it. To paraphrase from memory: He said every medium bomber built meant 8 middle schools didn’t get built.
But the scale of what we spend on the military here (3% GDP) just doesn’t compare to what the Soviets were spending (25% GDP at least, often much more)
The Soviets never reached Communism. They gave that up as early as 1923. What they ended up with was what political science professors call a Leninist mobilization economy.
And the punchline? They could mobilize to build incredible machines like the Typhoon SSBN but couldn’t keep grocery store shelves stocked at the same time.
They had insulated industry from demand signals, leading to wild allocative inefficiencies.
Basic consumer goods are quite available in the US. Affordability is a question, but that is a different issue.
I'm not going to defend the efficiency of our healthcare system (one of the most expensive in the world by % of per capita GDP - we top that list, without necessarily better outcomes), but you can't correlate that with availability of consumer products.
Interestingly, the only countries that outspend us by % of per capita GDP are Afghanistan, Tuvalu and Nauru. I would not have expected that.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS?most_recent_value_desc=true
Thing is a frikn beast‼️
Deck div on this boat is its own department.
Did Russians deactivate and preserve any for museum like purpose?
they just announced this year that 1 of them (cant remember which) will be turned into a Museum ship. There is 1 still on limited service as a test platform for certain launchers, missiles and such. the others are decommissioned waiting to scrap i believe.
TK-208 Dmitry Donskoi) is the test platform turned museum ship
thankyou
I can't fuckin WAIT!!!
Eh.
TK-208 was the test platform for the RSM-56 SLBM. It is retired and slated to be become a museum ship. TK-17 and TK-20 have been laid up at Severodvinsk for around two decades. All other units have been scrapped.
Could any still submerge or would they fail?
TK-208 was in active service as a test platform less than a year ago.
TK-17 and TK-20 haven't moved since 2009. You can scroll all the way back on Google Earth historic images and find them there. Missile tubes were opened separately in 2016 then 2018. They're officially slated to be scrapped at this point.
I wouldn't visit one of their nuclear vessels, they aren't exactly known for try their nuclear safety.
Don’t they cut out the nuclear compartment to decommission a vessel? And yes, you are probably right Russian subs are not a kind of clean room environment.
It looks like one could stick a hoop on that thing and there would be more than enough room for pickup basketball game. Thats fucking crazy
I’m gonna need that in bananas for accurate measurement
Are you talking size or radiation measurement? ;-)
Yes, comrade.
Oh my god, that is friggin' huge!
It doesn't look any bigger than the Mauretania... Oh sorry wrong movie.
What are those doors?
Is the hatch in the rudder for accessing the internal mechanisms (maintenance) or does it get into the pressure hull?
Almost certainly a free flood space, maybe it enters the mud tank. I couldn’t see that man way entering the pressure hull.
Pressure hulls. Two primary longitudinal pressure hulls that run most of the length of exterior(outer) hull. A control pressure hull that is easily visible in pictures below the sail, plus one for the steerage/rudder and for the torpedo room.
A bit pedantic as I'm sure that is a free flood space.
Definitely belongs in r/megalophobia
This is the real leviathan class life form
The thing that most people look at with these is the size, but in reality due to the way the pressure hulls are separated and don't include the tubes, inside they aren't massive.
In my view they have a less or very similar amounts of internal space as a UK or US ssbn. Yeah they have a bath, but we have stupid shit too like a study area, library, beer store, gym space etc.
Think of all that wasted space on a V boat.. loads of wasted space in the MC, the MCC passageway isn't needed at all, that stupid walkway behind the upper bunk space heads, MC1 deck!
Jesus the MCC and the Nav centre, a massive waste of space. Designed by yanks probably - as part of the PSA
I sincerly wish that Russians in a not too distant future do a course correction to democracy and friendly relations with other democracies.
They are planning making one of the Typhoons to a museum, and I would very much like to visit but not as long Russia is in the current state of Mordor.
Big mother...
Wonder how they actuate that? Cables or hydraulics?
Hydraulics. There are hundreds() of hydraulically operated doors between inner and outer hulls alone.
Anyone know how this compares in size/height to the rudder of the Airbus a380?
Big boy
I really hope one gets turned into a museum however unlikely that is…
You know what they say about big rudders…