i had a friend like this on discord, which i ghosted constantly because of how annoying he was. i can't even tell why he annoyed me, it was like 5 years ago atp. he would keep bothering me so much. he liked me as a friend i suppose, but i cut him off. it was just exhausting to be around him. i never told him how annoying he was, because i didn't want to be rude. i'm curious if he grew up to be normal...
i can't even tell why he annoyed me, it was like 5 years ago atp. he would keep bothering me so much
Always begs you to obsessive levels to play the games he liked, but was an insulting elitist asshole about the games you liked? Flooded the group chat/general about how much they like gay sex and their fetishes despite nobody else engaging with it? Was unemployed which meant he had full time in his hands to do all of this more often and suck people's social batteries?
That was pretty much my how experience with people like that.
I had an online friend like this down to a tee except he was aggressively straight. Just constantly posting porn of OF models and anime girls in our discord server/DMs. Always cracking jokes at others expense but desperately wanted our company at all times. Not a bad guy but it was just a strange dynamic and grew tiring after a while!
young people (usually younger teenagers) who spend a majority of their time online, and get most of their socializing from online spaces. most of their personality derives from internet culture, so a lot of their humor or mannerisms will be odd to anyone who doesnt consume the exact same content (and this is content that mostly only appeals to 14 year olds, so obviously the rest of us will not understand or find it annoying).
they tend to have not the best social skills and will talk to you about very specific interests you dont know anything about. they also tend to be very rude without meaning it (they dont know any better), will talk about overly personal things. a lot of divisive, or just straight up awful people tend to become memes (Charlie Kirk, trump, Andrew tate), and that exposes teenagers to them, and those memes end up onboarding them onto those ideologies, making them very weird, cruel little monsters.
im going a little off topic but this is caused by a lot of things but a large part is that many teens (i think especially boys) get most of their socialization online, and a lot of online spaces are awful fucked up places. ive had kids at work tell other kids to "shut up and die" or that theyre "getting raped" in the game theyre playing and the other adults in the room don't bat an eye.
I didnt have the interests in the picture but I was that exact kid, to a tee, most of my life. I probably always will be but im hopefully more palatable now lol
Same, tbh. I am practically exactly what you described lol: Spent most of my time growing up online, favorite games are Hoi4 and Ultrakill, accidentally was rude and weird, would rant about history or some fandom I was into to random strangers, overshared, fell into the mano/incel sphere because Tate was a meme, took dating advice from fucking DDLC etc.
College was my saving grace (though I did come off really weird/even a little creepy for a while when I tried to learn how to socialize), and I became a lot more normal/socially palatable/deradicalized. still struggle, you can't socialize away autism
Shit like this is honestly why I support banning social media for kids under 17 and the internet as a whole under 13. We really need to reimagine third spaces and get people outside again.
unrelated but banning kids from social media is in my opinion a great idea.(but banning internet is too far tbh) Ive been dedicating alot of my time to learning how to learn, how we think, remember, and stuff like that, and Ive come to realize reflection is invaluable. it allows us to actually get a somewhat intuitive sense of the world and ourselves. it is how we improve at anything. but when kids are allowed to scroll from the age of 7, they develop the habit of not allowing themsleces to be bored and thus reflect.
I was briefly like this when I was 14, basically exactly as the starter pack shows. I like to think that I've moved past that in the short time that has passed since then, but who knows?
Terminally online people often embrace various seemingly contradictory viewpoints just because they all exist in the same space.
On 4chan there are no accounts. So you can post contradictory things on two different threads and nobody knows. So there will be gay porn threads right next to nazi threads. Some people will end up on both threads, and since they are easily led end up as some type of wierd gay nazi. It's usually younger and dumber people who fall for this which is why some of the stuff in the image implies they are young.
Some of the people on 4chan were even so sexist that they enjoyed the idea of gay guys presenting as crossdressing porn for them since they didn't want to have to interact with girls at all. It doesn't make sense, but its the internet and there's no way to hold them accountable. Needless to say, these types of people are obnoxious to deal with because much of their life will be a walking contradiction.
There's a weird overlap between people with Nazi ideology and femboys.
The rest of it is things associated with both groups.
Hearts of Iron, for example, is a popular grand strategy game from Paradox Interactive, which covers the timeframe for WW2. It lets you play as any nation in this period, including Nazi Germany. As a result, Nazi fans are drawn to the game.
A couple of weeks ago, I went grocery shopping. There was a trans person, or possibly a femboy, standing in front of me at the checkout. Their bag was covered with the following patches: the HOI IV emblem, the trans flag, the communist hammer and sickle, and the Black Sun, which is a neo-Nazi symbol.
It was the most awkward individual I have ever seen. Everything about them felt clumsy and uneasy, with a level of social ineptitude that was reaching highs I've never thought possible. When the cashier asked, "Cash or card?", they froze for a solid 20 seconds, visibly unsure how to respond.
Even though I already knew this, witnessing it firsthand made me relativize a lot about how I should perceive people online and not bother with pointless arguments. Whenever I run into an edgy Nazi larper or aggressively hostile queer activists who lash out in unprecedented rudeness, I think back to that person in the supermarket, and then it all make sense.
EDIT, because it's reddit and feel like it's necessary to explicit everything before some demographics play blind for the pleasure to argue : What's between your legs, who you like to fuck with, what gender you are from birth or not, have nothing to do with being a scumbag, brainrotted by the depth of discord, or both. It's seriously something that need to be considered more in order to evolve.
Dude, I know a LOT of trans people (VR chat) and the amount of them that consider themselves a part of groups that want to destroy their rights, kill, imprison or otherwise do horrible things to them floors me. It's far from the majority, but wayyy more than I would have expected.
I don't understand how people can buy into groups that actively hate them. Half the Republican party's identity is hating trans people. Their social media spaces are FULL of obsessed derangement with trans people. How can they see that and want that group in power?? Fucking baffling.
One youtuber whose name I don't remember explained in his video how do femboys manage to be appealing to Nazis. It's because femboys for Nazis don't break patriarchal gender standards, they actually reinforce those standards in eyes of Nazis just by them existing. Nazis think that femininity should always be about being obedient, docile and submissive to order of masculinity.
It's weird until you actually consider the implicit ideologies of "femboys" as the term exists online. First and most obvious is whiteness, think about how many femboys of color you've ever seen (especially art), in these spaces whiteness is the default and the desired. Consider their understanding of femininity, does it feel like a liberated feminist or is it a submissive, passive and traditional femininity. Then there is the obsession with youthfulness as being the only kind of acceptable beauty is a child-like youthfulness, that the "hot" femboys have.
Each one of these ideologies are, in my opinion, reactionary and the fact that there is crossdressing and queerness in femboy spaces, does not negate their fundamentally reactionary nature.
Lastly, fascism has always had incoherence and contradiction (as further explained by Eco). The famous gay Nazi Ernst Röhm or the allegedly pro worker aesthetics despite being funded by capital and the petite bourgeoisie from day 1. In our contemporary time, neo-fascism can use femboy ideology to spread fascism to certain demographics, even if we know that in practice neo-fascists like Trump, Putin and Urban are hostile to even this reactionary trend of femboys.
Idk how much sense this made to non politics-brained ppl, but that's my attempt at explaining how you get fascist femboys.
Annoying people at school who cant hold a conversation unless it’s about them, stink the bathroom up with their vapes, and act like they are one of a kind
Go to the subreddits r/boykisser and r/196, and have a gaff around. It's basically describing a certain kind of person that's overly online, usually 15-20 years old, more often than not some flavor of LGBT, and thinks they're way more unique, quirky, and funny than they actually are.
I like Teto and that’s it, and I know exactly who this is about and they are extremely annoying. Which sucks when they do like Teto because clearly they can like some good things, so why do they have to be so awful?
I was that kid in middle school blasting the Soviet anthem, and I cringe thinking back on it nowadays. Thankfully I grew out of that stage and became slightly less cringe than I used to be.
I don't really relate to the starter pack itself but this I do feel. I'm not sure why but I suppose I was just always that weird, awkward, asocial child who would constantly be out of touch with everything. I also remember doing things like randomly sending messages containing just the word "cum" and nothing else in various text channels. I must have found that funny for whatever reason.
They’re like those guys who immediately after the first history lesson about hitler/nazism start identifying themselves as white supremacists because it’s “funny”
I think it's evolved into a group that's far beyond what it was 10-ish years ago. I remember back in the 2010's playing it with only five or so pre-made songs at increasing difficulties. Nowadays, it's both a PC and a mobile game that have things like community maps among others (kinda like Osu, I guess?).
Hearts of Iron 4 is enjoyed by both 14 y/o Nazi femboys and 53 y/o Jerry McDougal who recently divorced his wife and now plays USA on the minimum difficulty just to feel something.
Not really an age thing, more of a not being in the spreadsheets with maps overlayed community.
Its just a mixture of Ips and memes that have edgy fandoms behind them.
Hoi4 is a WW2 army sim whose community is stereotyped to be a mix of Trans/queer people, edgy nazi larpers, communists, and Neurodivergent people.
Ultrakill is a first-person boomer shooter (Think like the first Doom if its style and graphics were a genre of games) that is loosely based on Dante's Inferno, whose fanbase is considered extremely horny for biblical figures and robots, and is also just toxic.
Celeste is a 2d platformer about climbing a mountain. The main character, Madaline, is Trans, and the community around it is toxic.
Gemoatry dash is a mobile game that has a toxic, younger culture around it.
The thing in the top left is the boy kisser meme
Yaoi and Yuri are like Japanese for gay and lesbian, it's a style of anime about gay and lesbian relationships or something, idk.
or some hyperpop breakcore cutecore traumacore hello kitty benzodiazepenecore ayesha erotica femtanyl person no one but a handful of people have heard of before
Trauma core is basically about contrasting cutesy imagery (ex: Sanrio characters) with extremely dark/disturbing sentences (ex: “I wish I had never been born at all”), kinda?
tally hall fans are all 13 years olds who have not listened to any other music so they can flex their "weird" taste in music and spam "tally hall mentioned" at the slightest reference. i would know. i was one.
You’ll see this with a lot of Vocaloid pfps where they seem to just use the pfp for aesthetics without actually engaging with the series itself. It’s a similar case with pfp of Lucky Star, K-On, or Touhou Fumo, they just juxtapose cute anime characters with the most vile or out of pocket takes, then follow up with quirky “uwu” internet humour
New fans come in, drown out the old fans with sheer numbers, new fans take over the old spaces and change it to better fit the new fans.
It happens when anything gets popular. From music, to hobbies, to whatever else you can think of.
I got linked this blog post somewhere else on this website that spells it out pretty plainly. Stay small and live in peace, or get big and inevitably have to pick up the pieces after it falls apart, if there are pieces left.
Like pokemon, specifically the TCG, rn... I can't open a pack without thinking about the hits and the price because of these scalpers, even though I'm more inclined toward the competitive scene
How did Teto even skyrocket in popularity with Gen Z and Alpha? I had an old forum friend who was a fan of her from UTAU, and this was like a decade ago at least
They’re always either 13 or 30 years old too, just from what I’ve found at least. The 13 yr old fans are plain annoying… whereas the 30s yr olds are creepy as fuck and severely emotionally stunted. They’re both equally insufferable though, so I stay away from anyone who says they’re into this shit.
Honestly I liked the simplicity of the design but I don’t understand how it got a community (that I don’t really wanna interact with because it’s seemingly all kids or adults pretending to be kids)
I drew it once in my weird horror style cause I thought it’d be amusing
Worst mistake of my life, attracted a bunch of yappers
Yep, it's comforting to think of these as just a tiny online fringe. But there are a lot of them, and they'll be in the workplace too. Which may moderate them to an extent, but who knows.
These people all failed out of my college or are still trying to get their two year degree 6 year later. Always in the corner of the cafeteria, on discord, next to the few people playing MTG. A few of them were kicked out for sexual harassment or other antisocial behaviours. Just saw the mugshot circulating locally of one of them for public exposure.
They were never able to secure internships, which is a shot in the foot in IT these days. Back to mom’s basement.
Aw man, Celeste is in my top 3 games and I love Teto.
Honestly, what's the deal with Celeste? I get why a majority of the stuff is here, but Celeste has a really chill fanbase from what I know. I rarely see anyone mention it in memes or anything like with Ultrakill or Teto
Honestly, no idea. I saw some people screeching for and against the whole "trans experience analogy" thing, which I personally feel is taking nothing away from how amazing Celeste is.
The art, controls and even the conversations. Some of the best gameplay I've seen from a platformer.
I learned to handle failure in spades when I first learned to play Dark Souls 1, but Celeste took those lessons and really solidified them for me. There's something about a game that's unapologetically hard without being cheesy about it.
This was my exact thought, I hangout with a lot of trans and queer people and these are very common interests.
I was kinda shocked everyone thought of racists and homophobes
Oop missed the Nazi part in the post, but still a lot of trans interests.
It really depends if they’re in the forsaken FANDOM, or are a fan of the game. The latter is fine, maybe a bit annoying, but the former should be decapitated in the town square to make an example.
When it comes to roblox fandoms, you're basically jumping into a shit and needle filled cesspool and praying you don't get infected with something. Unironically, the only half-decent roblox fandom I've seen is the *art* (Not main game!!!) deepwoken fandom, which is surpising considering the fact it's on roblox and filled with annoying teenage boys. Then again, the art fandom only has, like, a few hundred people in it on the discord. We all just really like the lore.
I mean everyone’s gotta be young and annoying and figuring themselves out at some point or another… These people just happen to be online a lot so it’s easier to see it happen.
Obviously excluding the nazi stuff, for most of this starter pack my feeling is there’s a lot worse you could be than just loudly passionate about stuff you like
there’s a lot worse you could be than just loudly passionate about stuff you like
That particular trait isn't at all limited to the terminally online crowd. I was doing that in the 90s, with whatever book or subject I was really into at the moment, before I had ever been on the Internet at all.
I remember when Ultrakill was just another new age boomer shooter. I remember when Hearts of Iron 4 was brand new. I remember when vocaloids were semi-niche.
I unforunately absolutely vibe with these sorta people, maybe not the obvious fascist ones. Insufferable and cringe, yes. But they do not hide their joy which is really admirable personally.
yea. while this starterpack is eerily accurate for the most part, i wouldn't call these types of people "annoying". it's just young queer people expressing their interests
never met anyone who calls themselves a nazi or is racist or anything like that, though. that seems to be mostly specific to hoi4 players
I am mutuals on Twitter with the people who made Pearto and they're really sorry for unleashing this monstrocity. Pearto and Mesmerizer were like 200 nukes dropped at once
it's pretty accurate though, most of them are this specific type of extremely annoying teenager (they also probably play changed too and cope about how it's not a fetish game)
The one and only part where I agree is they're a Nazi so yeah a little more than annoying, but I know someone who is nearly all of these things except a nazi and they're fine
Oof, add Amazing Digital Circus, squishmallows, that IKEA shark plush, and that thigh high/miniskirt/collar combo from Amazon to the list and it’s uncanny
"Hey fellow gray-muzzles, remember when we saw protogens and just made jokes about closed species and ram getting eaten, all without the fear of pissing off some douchey teen?"
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This feels like there's some personal stuff behind it but also I know exactly the type of person this is about
Could someone explain this person to an old man?
unexplainable. you just had to be there
backing this guy up cuz it’s not even snark, this stuff is so difficult to explain to someone who hasn’t been around for it. so many pipelines…
i had a friend like this on discord, which i ghosted constantly because of how annoying he was. i can't even tell why he annoyed me, it was like 5 years ago atp. he would keep bothering me so much. he liked me as a friend i suppose, but i cut him off. it was just exhausting to be around him. i never told him how annoying he was, because i didn't want to be rude. i'm curious if he grew up to be normal...
Always begs you to obsessive levels to play the games he liked, but was an insulting elitist asshole about the games you liked? Flooded the group chat/general about how much they like gay sex and their fetishes despite nobody else engaging with it? Was unemployed which meant he had full time in his hands to do all of this more often and suck people's social batteries?
That was pretty much my how experience with people like that.
I had an online friend like this down to a tee except he was aggressively straight. Just constantly posting porn of OF models and anime girls in our discord server/DMs. Always cracking jokes at others expense but desperately wanted our company at all times. Not a bad guy but it was just a strange dynamic and grew tiring after a while!
not games but interests in general
close. he was a furry. nothing sexual tho
yeah duh we were like 15
i'm pretty sure he was neurodivergent too (nothing wrong about that, but there might be a connection idk)
young people (usually younger teenagers) who spend a majority of their time online, and get most of their socializing from online spaces. most of their personality derives from internet culture, so a lot of their humor or mannerisms will be odd to anyone who doesnt consume the exact same content (and this is content that mostly only appeals to 14 year olds, so obviously the rest of us will not understand or find it annoying).
they tend to have not the best social skills and will talk to you about very specific interests you dont know anything about. they also tend to be very rude without meaning it (they dont know any better), will talk about overly personal things. a lot of divisive, or just straight up awful people tend to become memes (Charlie Kirk, trump, Andrew tate), and that exposes teenagers to them, and those memes end up onboarding them onto those ideologies, making them very weird, cruel little monsters.
im going a little off topic but this is caused by a lot of things but a large part is that many teens (i think especially boys) get most of their socialization online, and a lot of online spaces are awful fucked up places. ive had kids at work tell other kids to "shut up and die" or that theyre "getting raped" in the game theyre playing and the other adults in the room don't bat an eye.
I feel like you just described me from a universe where I didnt mature despite being online far too much.
I didnt have the interests in the picture but I was that exact kid, to a tee, most of my life. I probably always will be but im hopefully more palatable now lol
Same, tbh. I am practically exactly what you described lol: Spent most of my time growing up online, favorite games are Hoi4 and Ultrakill, accidentally was rude and weird, would rant about history or some fandom I was into to random strangers, overshared, fell into the mano/incel sphere because Tate was a meme, took dating advice from fucking DDLC etc.
College was my saving grace (though I did come off really weird/even a little creepy for a while when I tried to learn how to socialize), and I became a lot more normal/socially palatable/deradicalized. still struggle, you can't socialize away autism
Shit like this is honestly why I support banning social media for kids under 17 and the internet as a whole under 13. We really need to reimagine third spaces and get people outside again.
unrelated but banning kids from social media is in my opinion a great idea.(but banning internet is too far tbh) Ive been dedicating alot of my time to learning how to learn, how we think, remember, and stuff like that, and Ive come to realize reflection is invaluable. it allows us to actually get a somewhat intuitive sense of the world and ourselves. it is how we improve at anything. but when kids are allowed to scroll from the age of 7, they develop the habit of not allowing themsleces to be bored and thus reflect.
I was briefly like this when I was 14, basically exactly as the starter pack shows. I like to think that I've moved past that in the short time that has passed since then, but who knows?
Terminally online people often embrace various seemingly contradictory viewpoints just because they all exist in the same space.
On 4chan there are no accounts. So you can post contradictory things on two different threads and nobody knows. So there will be gay porn threads right next to nazi threads. Some people will end up on both threads, and since they are easily led end up as some type of wierd gay nazi. It's usually younger and dumber people who fall for this which is why some of the stuff in the image implies they are young.
Some of the people on 4chan were even so sexist that they enjoyed the idea of gay guys presenting as crossdressing porn for them since they didn't want to have to interact with girls at all. It doesn't make sense, but its the internet and there's no way to hold them accountable. Needless to say, these types of people are obnoxious to deal with because much of their life will be a walking contradiction.
There's a weird overlap between people with Nazi ideology and femboys.
The rest of it is things associated with both groups.
Hearts of Iron, for example, is a popular grand strategy game from Paradox Interactive, which covers the timeframe for WW2. It lets you play as any nation in this period, including Nazi Germany. As a result, Nazi fans are drawn to the game.
A couple of weeks ago, I went grocery shopping. There was a trans person, or possibly a femboy, standing in front of me at the checkout. Their bag was covered with the following patches: the HOI IV emblem, the trans flag, the communist hammer and sickle, and the Black Sun, which is a neo-Nazi symbol.
It was the most awkward individual I have ever seen. Everything about them felt clumsy and uneasy, with a level of social ineptitude that was reaching highs I've never thought possible. When the cashier asked, "Cash or card?", they froze for a solid 20 seconds, visibly unsure how to respond.
Even though I already knew this, witnessing it firsthand made me relativize a lot about how I should perceive people online and not bother with pointless arguments. Whenever I run into an edgy Nazi larper or aggressively hostile queer activists who lash out in unprecedented rudeness, I think back to that person in the supermarket, and then it all make sense.
EDIT, because it's reddit and feel like it's necessary to explicit everything before some demographics play blind for the pleasure to argue : What's between your legs, who you like to fuck with, what gender you are from birth or not, have nothing to do with being a scumbag, brainrotted by the depth of discord, or both. It's seriously something that need to be considered more in order to evolve.
Queer/Trans Nazis will never, ever make sense to me.
The capacity to think that you are one of the "good ones" who won't go up against the wall seems to transcend all boundaries.
These goobers watch nick fuentes and honestly think they'll take over the 'states. They can barely hold eye contact.
Your nan in a mobility scooter could beat up 99% of these groyper idiots.
I live in France. But there is a weird pipeline with paradoxical weirdos amongst history enthusiasts.
Dude, I know a LOT of trans people (VR chat) and the amount of them that consider themselves a part of groups that want to destroy their rights, kill, imprison or otherwise do horrible things to them floors me. It's far from the majority, but wayyy more than I would have expected.
I don't understand how people can buy into groups that actively hate them. Half the Republican party's identity is hating trans people. Their social media spaces are FULL of obsessed derangement with trans people. How can they see that and want that group in power?? Fucking baffling.
Well fuck. I like that game but for very different reasons.
One youtuber whose name I don't remember explained in his video how do femboys manage to be appealing to Nazis. It's because femboys for Nazis don't break patriarchal gender standards, they actually reinforce those standards in eyes of Nazis just by them existing. Nazis think that femininity should always be about being obedient, docile and submissive to order of masculinity.
It's weird until you actually consider the implicit ideologies of "femboys" as the term exists online. First and most obvious is whiteness, think about how many femboys of color you've ever seen (especially art), in these spaces whiteness is the default and the desired. Consider their understanding of femininity, does it feel like a liberated feminist or is it a submissive, passive and traditional femininity. Then there is the obsession with youthfulness as being the only kind of acceptable beauty is a child-like youthfulness, that the "hot" femboys have.
Each one of these ideologies are, in my opinion, reactionary and the fact that there is crossdressing and queerness in femboy spaces, does not negate their fundamentally reactionary nature.
Lastly, fascism has always had incoherence and contradiction (as further explained by Eco). The famous gay Nazi Ernst Röhm or the allegedly pro worker aesthetics despite being funded by capital and the petite bourgeoisie from day 1. In our contemporary time, neo-fascism can use femboy ideology to spread fascism to certain demographics, even if we know that in practice neo-fascists like Trump, Putin and Urban are hostile to even this reactionary trend of femboys.
Idk how much sense this made to non politics-brained ppl, but that's my attempt at explaining how you get fascist femboys.
Annoying people at school who cant hold a conversation unless it’s about them, stink the bathroom up with their vapes, and act like they are one of a kind
Go to the subreddits r/boykisser and r/196, and have a gaff around. It's basically describing a certain kind of person that's overly online, usually 15-20 years old, more often than not some flavor of LGBT, and thinks they're way more unique, quirky, and funny than they actually are.
I also can smell it and its a strong odor
He probably made it about one of his discord friends
A quarter of reddit is basically this.
This is so specific, but at the same time, just general enough to where I know the type of people you’re referring to.
They’re like the mfers who blasted the Soviet anthem in the hallways with their Chromebooks and was confused on why no one was saluting or laughing.
As someone who enjoys like 2 of the things in the post, i'm very curious on where the line is between me and whatever you're describing lmao
I have some bad news for you...
Go on?
Not here please
I like Teto and that’s it, and I know exactly who this is about and they are extremely annoying. Which sucks when they do like Teto because clearly they can like some good things, so why do they have to be so awful?
same here except I enjoy 3 of them. Then again I was a closet weeb in school, so I never outwardly did any weeb shit
Which two?
Ultrakill and gd, i like both games
I think you’re safe bro but so help me god if you get into HoI4 it might be over lol (this is a joke)
that still happens? LOL
Reminds me of this chick that brought those old beige computer speakers to our band hall in high school and pumped some weeb tunes hahahhahahahah
This is Grimes
I was that kid in middle school blasting the Soviet anthem, and I cringe thinking back on it nowadays. Thankfully I grew out of that stage and became slightly less cringe than I used to be.
If you weren't cringe at least once in your life you haven't lived enough yet
I don't really relate to the starter pack itself but this I do feel. I'm not sure why but I suppose I was just always that weird, awkward, asocial child who would constantly be out of touch with everything. I also remember doing things like randomly sending messages containing just the word "cum" and nothing else in various text channels. I must have found that funny for whatever reason.
They’re like those guys who immediately after the first history lesson about hitler/nazism start identifying themselves as white supremacists because it’s “funny”
Apparently I'm aging out of Reddit because wtf is going on here lmao
The average age of the person depicted here would be like 15.
Nah, probably an average of 20. You'd be surprised how many adults are like this
14 or 28 no inbetween
Thankfully, they stay indoors
That's what I suspected but geometry dash threw me for a loop. Is that still that popular like 10+ years later?
I think it's evolved into a group that's far beyond what it was 10-ish years ago. I remember back in the 2010's playing it with only five or so pre-made songs at increasing difficulties. Nowadays, it's both a PC and a mobile game that have things like community maps among others (kinda like Osu, I guess?).
yup and its turned into its own game engine pretty much
Just Reddit? Try the whole damn internet on some days.
I'm 34 and I can't identify a single thing in this starter pack.
Am I going to die soon?
Hearts of Iron 4 is enjoyed by both 14 y/o Nazi femboys and 53 y/o Jerry McDougal who recently divorced his wife and now plays USA on the minimum difficulty just to feel something.
Not really an age thing, more of a not being in the spreadsheets with maps overlayed community.
Oddly specific…
Its just a mixture of Ips and memes that have edgy fandoms behind them.
Hoi4 is a WW2 army sim whose community is stereotyped to be a mix of Trans/queer people, edgy nazi larpers, communists, and Neurodivergent people.
Ultrakill is a first-person boomer shooter (Think like the first Doom if its style and graphics were a genre of games) that is loosely based on Dante's Inferno, whose fanbase is considered extremely horny for biblical figures and robots, and is also just toxic.
Celeste is a 2d platformer about climbing a mountain. The main character, Madaline, is Trans, and the community around it is toxic.
Gemoatry dash is a mobile game that has a toxic, younger culture around it.
The thing in the top left is the boy kisser meme
Yaoi and Yuri are like Japanese for gay and lesbian, it's a style of anime about gay and lesbian relationships or something, idk.
The rest I have no idea.
You forgot that their favorite artists are either Tally Hall, Will Wood, or Lemon Demon (often all three)
or some hyperpop breakcore cutecore traumacore hello kitty benzodiazepenecore ayesha erotica femtanyl person no one but a handful of people have heard of before
I…uh…don’t know what any of these things are besides hello kitty.
I guess I’m just old.
hyperpop = music that sounds kind of like ur car engine
breakcore = like that but with lots of percussion
cutecore = what kids are calling kawaii or x-kei now
traumacore = that but with trauma?? idk either ngl
benzodiazepenecore = a joke i think
ayesha erotica = hyperpop musician but been in the scene since at least the 2010s
femtanyl = musician
Trauma core is basically about contrasting cutesy imagery (ex: Sanrio characters) with extremely dark/disturbing sentences (ex: “I wish I had never been born at all”), kinda?
I'm still a teenager who knows maybe two of these terms, you need be in a lot of specific online spaces to hear about all of these.
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I like both femtanyl and Ayesha erotica FAKKK
Hey I just got into femtanyl but in my defense it was because they’re on Danny Brown’s new album
don’t forget living tombstone
As someone who has these as their top three, this is spot on.
This is the type of music for people who are overly proud about their "weird taste in music."
Goddamn it, I like Will Wood
I’m lost, I think I know what people it’s referring to, but the more I read, the less I understand
Damn it I’m a lemon demon fan T_T
i 💞 tally hall
tally hall fans are all 13 years olds who have not listened to any other music so they can flex their "weird" taste in music and spam "tally hall mentioned" at the slightest reference. i would know. i was one.
Ah fuck, three of my favourite artists
not all lemon demon/tally hall fans but ALWAYS a lemon demon/tally hall fan
yo dont diss tally hall
or will wood💔 don’t lump me in with these people
It's not always them but somehow they are always Teto fans or Vocaloid fans, it's unreal.
You’ll see this with a lot of Vocaloid pfps where they seem to just use the pfp for aesthetics without actually engaging with the series itself. It’s a similar case with pfp of Lucky Star, K-On, or Touhou Fumo, they just juxtapose cute anime characters with the most vile or out of pocket takes, then follow up with quirky “uwu” internet humour
Ah yes, my favorite anime series, Vocaloid.
True statement though.
they weren't talking about anime itself, just the aesthetic.
for example, touhou also isnt an anime
This why i prefer the old vocaloid community than newer one
What happened to the old one?
New fans come in, drown out the old fans with sheer numbers, new fans take over the old spaces and change it to better fit the new fans.
It happens when anything gets popular. From music, to hobbies, to whatever else you can think of.
I got linked this blog post somewhere else on this website that spells it out pretty plainly. Stay small and live in peace, or get big and inevitably have to pick up the pieces after it falls apart, if there are pieces left.
It happened to a lot of fandoms in 2020.
Like pokemon, specifically the TCG, rn... I can't open a pack without thinking about the hits and the price because of these scalpers, even though I'm more inclined toward the competitive scene
and u can guarantee the "teto fans" have only ever listened to birdbrain
or mesmerizer
How did Teto even skyrocket in popularity with Gen Z and Alpha? I had an old forum friend who was a fan of her from UTAU, and this was like a decade ago at least
Pretty sure it was because of her synthv release
I'm middle aged and I use
:3
In game chat specifically because it annoys people
You guys invented that shit, reclaim it
Put Hazbin on here too
And Helluva Boss. Pretty much any Vivziepop creation. Just an absolute plague of insufferable nerds
They’re always either 13 or 30 years old too, just from what I’ve found at least. The 13 yr old fans are plain annoying… whereas the 30s yr olds are creepy as fuck and severely emotionally stunted. They’re both equally insufferable though, so I stay away from anyone who says they’re into this shit.
How dare you… I’m 27 not 30.
Oh god yes, I don’t get why so many of the fans are racist or misogynists with the VERY diverse characters
There's some group of people who think they can't be racist or misogynistic because they're on the "right side"
I hate the boykisser meme so much
It was tolerable when it was new 4 years ago but the most annoying kind of people latched onto it and now it’s just awful
It’s like if there were people walking around plastering themselves in Among us shit today
It's just Chris Hansen shit, old men pretending to be teen boys
Honestly I liked the simplicity of the design but I don’t understand how it got a community (that I don’t really wanna interact with because it’s seemingly all kids or adults pretending to be kids)
I drew it once in my weird horror style cause I thought it’d be amusing
Worst mistake of my life, attracted a bunch of yappers
I was quite attached to it for sometime and joined a boykisser discord, joined a vc and it was all greasy middle-aged men 😖
I still kinda like the thing but yeah don't join the subreddit, the amount of stupid controversies there made me lose braincells
As a gay guy its honestly just being used to belittle and objectify me, even by people who have good intentions.
terminally online 13 year old who shouldnt have internet access starterpack
what’s with milo from fish hooks?
Because he deserves to be on this starter pack after what he has done
what did he do
Unspeakable things, he is an enemy of the people
He poisoned our water supply burned our crops and delivered a plague upon our houses!!!
Genuinely some of the most racist people you will ever see
Either hardcore ranked racist or casual racist with no in between
Shits at indians
He's Bangladeshi/Pakistani
Classic
Its pretty funny considering the fact that there are so many people in my college who have this kind of mindset in public
Yep, it's comforting to think of these as just a tiny online fringe. But there are a lot of them, and they'll be in the workplace too. Which may moderate them to an extent, but who knows.
These people all failed out of my college or are still trying to get their two year degree 6 year later. Always in the corner of the cafeteria, on discord, next to the few people playing MTG. A few of them were kicked out for sexual harassment or other antisocial behaviours. Just saw the mugshot circulating locally of one of them for public exposure.
They were never able to secure internships, which is a shot in the foot in IT these days. Back to mom’s basement.
Thanks for reminding me of the smell. Ugh.
Will never understand femboy Nazis. People are way too uneducated about WW2
I think it might be some extreme manifestation of misogyny.
i know at least 2 ppl like this
I am so out of touch
I'm out of time (Time)
But I'm out of my head
When you’re not around
I'm 44 and what is this?
God man the current world exhausts me....
what bro got against rust
Yup half of the Hoi4 fandom are schizo Nazi/commie femboys for some reason
When people ask me about my favorite game I purposely never say Hoi4 because I don't want to be associated with the god awful player base
I'm sorry CK3 and EU hog all the Roman Empire fanatics
Honestly I wish I knew where the femboy thing came from. I'm. Just chalking it up to zoomer fans of the series
heeeeeyyyy what wrong with :3
this is like at least 3 people I know
r/Whenthe starterpack.
Aw man, Celeste is in my top 3 games and I love Teto.
Honestly, what's the deal with Celeste? I get why a majority of the stuff is here, but Celeste has a really chill fanbase from what I know. I rarely see anyone mention it in memes or anything like with Ultrakill or Teto
Honestly, no idea. I saw some people screeching for and against the whole "trans experience analogy" thing, which I personally feel is taking nothing away from how amazing Celeste is.
The art, controls and even the conversations. Some of the best gameplay I've seen from a platformer.
I learned to handle failure in spades when I first learned to play Dark Souls 1, but Celeste took those lessons and really solidified them for me. There's something about a game that's unapologetically hard without being cheesy about it.
murder drones pfp ppl scare me
Hoi4, Ultrakill, Celeste and Teto. Wait a minute, these are just trans people.
This was my exact thought, I hangout with a lot of trans and queer people and these are very common interests. I was kinda shocked everyone thought of racists and homophobes
Oop missed the Nazi part in the post, but still a lot of trans interests.
celeste ? na u wrong for that
Forgot to add liking Forsaken and listening to bbno$
It really depends if they’re in the forsaken FANDOM, or are a fan of the game. The latter is fine, maybe a bit annoying, but the former should be decapitated in the town square to make an example.
When it comes to roblox fandoms, you're basically jumping into a shit and needle filled cesspool and praying you don't get infected with something. Unironically, the only half-decent roblox fandom I've seen is the *art* (Not main game!!!) deepwoken fandom, which is surpising considering the fact it's on roblox and filled with annoying teenage boys. Then again, the art fandom only has, like, a few hundred people in it on the discord. We all just really like the lore.
I mean everyone’s gotta be young and annoying and figuring themselves out at some point or another… These people just happen to be online a lot so it’s easier to see it happen.
Obviously excluding the nazi stuff, for most of this starter pack my feeling is there’s a lot worse you could be than just loudly passionate about stuff you like
That particular trait isn't at all limited to the terminally online crowd. I was doing that in the 90s, with whatever book or subject I was really into at the moment, before I had ever been on the Internet at all.
if you know ball then you know this is actually 2 different people
I'm getting Nazi femboy and regular nerdy trans woman from this
Me when Teto was niche like 2 years ago
I remember when Ultrakill was just another new age boomer shooter. I remember when Hearts of Iron 4 was brand new. I remember when vocaloids were semi-niche.
I was there. We were there.
She should have stayed niche ngl
Am I just not chronically online, because what the actual fuck is boykisser?
It's a meme based around this white anthropomorphic cat with the caption "you like kissing boys don't you?" and it is very, very popular
Never thought it was funny
I don't understand it's purpose, some people are gay yes, why is there a meme surrounding it
the fact that boykisser is still popular is insane considering children have learned to walk and talk in the time its been since it first showed up
Why is rust in there lmao
should've been Arch instead of rust tbh, ofc not all Arch users, but always an Arch user.
This is just a very specific type of autism
I unforunately absolutely vibe with these sorta people, maybe not the obvious fascist ones. Insufferable and cringe, yes. But they do not hide their joy which is really admirable personally.
yea. while this starterpack is eerily accurate for the most part, i wouldn't call these types of people "annoying". it's just young queer people expressing their interests
never met anyone who calls themselves a nazi or is racist or anything like that, though. that seems to be mostly specific to hoi4 players
What does rust the programming language gotta do with this bruh😭💔
Welp. I feel old.
i would add team fortress 2 here
I'm in this picture and I don't like it
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Genuinely why are such an overwhelming number of ultrakill fans like that?
I am mutuals on Twitter with the people who made Pearto and they're really sorry for unleashing this monstrocity. Pearto and Mesmerizer were like 200 nukes dropped at once
"Annoying teto fan" is hard to conceptualize without pearto. Its Always Pearto
I will never not find these people annoying. I am so sick of it. Including teto
I think you mixed up two communities
The strange femboy Nazis usually don’t like yuri either, they’re chuds but bisexual or gay misogynists
Gooners if you will, they like porn, never wlw romance, even if it’s an anime
I don’t think they like Celeste either
I think op is saying they are are one these things not necessarily all of them
Protogen slander will never end
it's pretty accurate though, most of them are this specific type of extremely annoying teenager (they also probably play changed too and cope about how it's not a fetish game)
I have a love-hate relationshop with the ultrakill community
hate: they're so horny
love: they're just as insane as the developer
The poor femboys
no i love these people when they aren't nazis
I met a few of those who were nice
There’s one that drops by and asks me for Kaomojis like once in a blue moon for some reason, I do like that
Tbh the ones at school aren’t femboy nazis based on my experience, I sadly just can’t relate to the hate
Ok woah woah woah, Ultrakill slaps, and yeah the fan base is a bit weird but the game is awesome
Also Celeste is amazing
ts is just targeting reddit
Finally, some r/anarchychess slander
They probably cute though
wtf did I do
The one and only part where I agree is they're a Nazi so yeah a little more than annoying, but I know someone who is nearly all of these things except a nazi and they're fine
It's even more ironic that FURRIES themselves hate Protogens and Boykisser mfs.
If autism was a person
All the people asking “why Teto” or “why Ultrakill”
If you know what these things are and don’t know why then the starter pack is about YOU
Or have never engaged withe the online Fandom of a singleplayer game. Jeez talk about pot and kettle situation for you.
You are not immune
Yeah but I know why I'm annoying
Oof, add Amazing Digital Circus, squishmallows, that IKEA shark plush, and that thigh high/miniskirt/collar combo from Amazon to the list and it’s uncanny
Blåhaj my beloved
the groomed
poor man calling another poor man broke. Homestuckie
and the groomer...
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This is incorrect. The most annoying people are AI tech bros.
"Hey fellow gray-muzzles, remember when we saw protogens and just made jokes about closed species and ram getting eaten, all without the fear of pissing off some douchey teen?"
holy hell
:3 is so fucking overused among certain communities..