Forgive me if I shouldn’t be asking this but, why are such restrictive and violating restraints like this used? It seems very excessive and horrifying for the patient. I primarily refer to the extra restraints on top of the typical 4 point. I ask this as someone that likes this stuff as a fetish myself, imagining this used for real seems quite fucked.
Keep in mind that these restraints aren't used on clear, sound-of-mind people. They're used on people who are a danger to themselves or others through mental issues or intoxication/narcotics and the restraints are used usually temporarily for no more than an hour at most until the patient can calm down, be brought into a better/safer environment or until sedatives/chemical restraints can start doing their thing. The alternative that is now being used at hospitals that have a "zero-restraint policy" is basically for medical personnel to dogpile the patient and physically restrain them. This is often as traumatic for the patient but now also puts the medical personnel at risk of injury.
A lot of the things you mention as "on top of" the "typical" 4-point restraint aren't intended to be used on top of the wrist and ankle restraints. The waist and shoulder harness is primarily intended for patients that are at risk of hurting themselves by falling out of the bed in confusion or thrashing. It is often paired with only a single ankle cuff or sometimes 2 but with lots of slack. The ankle cuff(s) then act to prevent what is referred to as helicoptering where the patient hurts themselves by twisting around on the bed so much the restraints tangle up and end up way too tight. The thigh cuffs are only used rarely to prevent leg/knee kicking and is primarily a safety measure for medical personnel from my understanding. Similarly the head restraint and added shoulder belts for examination of the head or to prevent patients hurting themselves thrashing when sitting up in the bed or moving the head is a risk. Those restraints in particular fall under hmthe highest risk category and are not supposed to be used for long term and patients restrained in them must be under direct supervision at all times by a person in the room with them (not just cctv monitoring for example)
Restraints in a real medical setting aren't used willy nilly. They're used with the specific intent of preventing a patient from (intentionally or unintentionally) hurting themselves or others. They're not supposed to be used for long uninterrupted periods and they're to be used only when needed until either not needed or other measures can be used. This can undoubtedly be traumatic for the patient, but the question that needs to be asked is whether it is more traumatic to the patient than the alternative, physical restraint by medical personnel or letting them injure themselves.
Yes, I don't have much to add to u/theonesiteengineer very detailed answer. However, I can add that the use of these restraints in a medical context is never done lightly. And furthermore, it follows extremely strict legal rules here in Germany.
Many of these restraints are very well thought out. For example, they are primarily designed to prevent patients from falling out of bed. That's what the waist belt does, and it can be supplemented if needed. Even after the foot supports are added, it is still possible to lift and move the feet. And even with the compact set, you can still sit up in bed as standard.
In a medical context, this system is never used lightly and always serves primarily to protect the patients themselves.
Wow, lucky. Nice haul! How did you get to find/buy this?
There was a bit of chance and luck involved...
Nice haul, is the bigger piece on the bottom right a 'Kompakt'?
Yes, contact lenses are available in all sizes and many standard sizes come with a crotch strap.
If you sell some of the Segufix-like stuff let me know.
Something will definitely be sold eventually. I just don't know what or when yet.
Holy! That’s a crazy haul I’m jealous
Haha! What an interesting find. I mean… for a Segufix-neard buying such a nice package… is like winning a lottery.
It would be interesting to see how old it is, and if there may be rarities. I‘m sure it must have been 3000-5000€ when new.
I’m jealous !
Forgive me if I shouldn’t be asking this but, why are such restrictive and violating restraints like this used? It seems very excessive and horrifying for the patient. I primarily refer to the extra restraints on top of the typical 4 point. I ask this as someone that likes this stuff as a fetish myself, imagining this used for real seems quite fucked.
Keep in mind that these restraints aren't used on clear, sound-of-mind people. They're used on people who are a danger to themselves or others through mental issues or intoxication/narcotics and the restraints are used usually temporarily for no more than an hour at most until the patient can calm down, be brought into a better/safer environment or until sedatives/chemical restraints can start doing their thing. The alternative that is now being used at hospitals that have a "zero-restraint policy" is basically for medical personnel to dogpile the patient and physically restrain them. This is often as traumatic for the patient but now also puts the medical personnel at risk of injury.
A lot of the things you mention as "on top of" the "typical" 4-point restraint aren't intended to be used on top of the wrist and ankle restraints. The waist and shoulder harness is primarily intended for patients that are at risk of hurting themselves by falling out of the bed in confusion or thrashing. It is often paired with only a single ankle cuff or sometimes 2 but with lots of slack. The ankle cuff(s) then act to prevent what is referred to as helicoptering where the patient hurts themselves by twisting around on the bed so much the restraints tangle up and end up way too tight. The thigh cuffs are only used rarely to prevent leg/knee kicking and is primarily a safety measure for medical personnel from my understanding. Similarly the head restraint and added shoulder belts for examination of the head or to prevent patients hurting themselves thrashing when sitting up in the bed or moving the head is a risk. Those restraints in particular fall under hmthe highest risk category and are not supposed to be used for long term and patients restrained in them must be under direct supervision at all times by a person in the room with them (not just cctv monitoring for example)
Restraints in a real medical setting aren't used willy nilly. They're used with the specific intent of preventing a patient from (intentionally or unintentionally) hurting themselves or others. They're not supposed to be used for long uninterrupted periods and they're to be used only when needed until either not needed or other measures can be used. This can undoubtedly be traumatic for the patient, but the question that needs to be asked is whether it is more traumatic to the patient than the alternative, physical restraint by medical personnel or letting them injure themselves.
Wow, thank you for taking the time to write that. That totally answers my question
No problem, thanks for asking instead of just sticking to the idea that restraints are inherently evil.
Yes, I don't have much to add to u/theonesiteengineer very detailed answer. However, I can add that the use of these restraints in a medical context is never done lightly. And furthermore, it follows extremely strict legal rules here in Germany. Many of these restraints are very well thought out. For example, they are primarily designed to prevent patients from falling out of bed. That's what the waist belt does, and it can be supplemented if needed. Even after the foot supports are added, it is still possible to lift and move the feet. And even with the compact set, you can still sit up in bed as standard. In a medical context, this system is never used lightly and always serves primarily to protect the patients themselves.