So I just spent a ton of money, both on a lot of Chinese segufix and electronics/ electromagnetic locks/latches. Developing an android app that will allow timed releases and off site caregiver ability to add/reduce time end session. Also planning some auto unlock safety features (will still have non mechanical/electric failsafe) along with smart camera and smartwatch integration.

But, the reason for the post is to ask a question about the segufix locks themselves, from videos I have watched, it appears that the lock practically lifts off the pin when the magnet key is set on top of it.is this accurate? Like if a key was swung and came to rest directly above a lock would it easily lift the lock off the pin? If so im thinking of an additional strap that could pull up and remove the straps from the pin after the lock is removed, or maybe a spring under the strap to push it off the pin. Idk let me know if you have any insights or if i didnt explain the concept well enough.

  • It takes some fiddling-around to get the magnet lined up on there to “click” the internal mechanism and get the lock released. It won’t happen just from a magnet casually swinging over the top.

    Also if it’s under tension you need to push the button down to relive the tension and allow the internal mechanism to release, before the magnet will release it.

    Not just a casual swing, but the hang point being directly over the lock. So the key will come to rest over the lock. A small amount of movement would allow small corrections to placement. You dont think that with no tension on the lock would lift it off?

    You’d need a much stronger magnet. The original “red plastic” Segufix magnet , ive found in my experience is not strong enough to lift-off the lock by itself. I bought some stronger RareEarth magnets that can do this; though it’s not always reliable.

    Also I would not trust a “hang point” above the lock with a string becuse it’s too hard to position and fiddle tbe lock and magnet into place. But I would trust a “hard mounted manget” where I could reach it, and it was fixed to where I can slide against it or (importantly) push the black lock against the magnet to make it “click” to release then lift off (with the before mentioned stronger Rare-earth magnet)

    Edit; the magnets I used are from Amazon, search for : DIYMAG Magnetic Hooks, 60 Lbs(27 KG)” and “DIY-NJ25-6P”

  • Inside the lock, there are two metal plates, that close around the pin. They are held in place with a kind of elastic pad, and re-positioned with the magnet, so they are open. If the knob is under tension it won’t come off. This is why a spring under the belt wouldn’t work and be more risky.

  • Could you send a photo of the Chinese Segufix‑style locks you have? I’m trying to understand the differences between the Chinese pins and the original Segufix ones. I want to buy a set, but the German sellers I contacted won’t ship to the USA anymore because of the tariffs.

  • One of the main rules in self-bondage is to never-ever trust on a lock to get free. At least daisychain it using 2 diffrent release methods. In this case use the magnet to hold down a strap anchor point, not to unlock the locks. That way if the power fails the strap will release, instead of a power fail resulting in you not being able to unlock yourself. Which is the exact opposite of what you want.

    If you want to be extra safe make 2 (or even split each the bar into 2 parts) bars on each side of the bed. Using those flat round used on sailing ships straps as anchor points for the straps. When the magnets power down the bars release. Then if you can't get the locks off you can at least get out of the bed to help yourself. If you power both sides using a battery powered relay system that won't supply for more than say 12 hours, whatever happens you will be released.

    I did say I wiuld also have a non mechanical/ electronic failsafe. The bar idea is interesting. Although I plan on having my electronic and huge ice lock being the only tether to one hand, with one hand free and a key within reach after that release I dont see a failure point. Either way I live with people that would come to check on me in the morning anyways. Not the backup I want, but the backup i have lol

  • No, the locks do not RELIABLY lift off the pins with a magnet keyThe key CAN lift the lock cap off, but this doesn't always happen and even the slightest tilt or misalignment and it doesn't happen. I would not rely on this for a release method in any way.

  • No, the pin can be difficult to remove, especially if it's under any sort of tension, you absolutely cannot rely on it as a safety release.

    Thank you for the insight