In order for this to stick it wouldnt there have to be irrefutable that he was targeting Kirk because he was Christian? Would need some evidence of prior anti-Christian views if I’m on that jury.
It supplies news headlines just as a charge. The goal is to rile up and reinforce emotions in viewers. For the purpose of emotional reaction, a conviction isn't that important.
I don't see how the US government can officially declare the beliefs of any religion. But we have a former judge at the top, so the government can go ahead and try.
Mormonism categorizes itself within Christianity, and nearly all Mormons self-identify as Christian.
For those who define Christianity within the doctrines of Catholicism and Protestantism, Mormonism's differences place it outside the umbrella of Christianity.
The Wikipedia article for Mormonism has an entire section dedicated to the theological divide if you want to learn more about it.
So if someone strictly defines Christianity as exclusively two of the many sects of Christianity, that same someone will not consider other sects Christian.
That's nice, but pretty meaningless.
Christianity means the belief in Jesus as Christ. Which the mormons believe.
I'm not sure why you're downvoting me. It's not my personal opinion. I'm an atheist.
People have been debating what makes someone a "Christian" for nearly 2,000 years, and (for most of that time) it's required more than just believing that Jesus is Christ.
Oh fuck off with that Christian shit. "Christians " aren't a protected class any more than any other religious class. It's a big world with many religions. None of them is more special than the others.
No but you see, he was mereky MAGA for the last 10 years in his real everyday life, but the moment he pressed that scope against his face he suddenly decided to become woke, antifa, communist and also become a registered democrat party member (also trans)
Can somebody please explain to me why nobody says words on the internet anymore? Is refusing to say “Christian” making some sort of statement or is it like how Zoomers say “ahh” instead of “ass” for no apparent reason?
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Oh fuck, they're gonna name Antifa as the enemy in the War on Christianity and anyone who can't show proof of purchase of Trump merch is going straight to the gulag.
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What in the woke, DEI, bullshit is this?
DEI for me, not for thee.
They have no interest in a conviction. Their entire objective in this case will be to stoke culture wars as hard as they can.
They've been doing a great job of that. Everyone fucking hates each other today.
In order for this to stick it wouldnt there have to be irrefutable that he was targeting Kirk because he was Christian? Would need some evidence of prior anti-Christian views if I’m on that jury.
It supplies news headlines just as a charge. The goal is to rile up and reinforce emotions in viewers. For the purpose of emotional reaction, a conviction isn't that important.
Gotta hate that Mormon-on-Christian violence.
Oh this may not end well for Trump, going against the Mormons and officially redefining Mormonism as non christian
I do not think we was Mormon except in name only. Inactive was the term we used
I don't think Charlie was Christian either, even if he thought he was, but shrug
That is the difference I don’t think this kid thought he was one.
Didn't pay his tithes that year. His membership expired.
Do they repossess the special Mormon planet he gets after he dies?
Mormon Cosmology
I thought they abandoned that belief decades ago, along with black and native American people being those colours cos god cursed their ancestors
I stopped watching after the first few seasons.
The plot twists got too complicated, and the bad guy always ended up with the money.
Murdering a guy would disqualify you from this.
I don't know if I would call it "redefining" given that Mormon isn't generally considered Christian outside of LDS circles.
yeah and protestants think catholics aren't christians
Yes I know but Mormons consider themselves Christian and the US govt stepping in and declaring them as officially non christian can cause an uproar
I don't see how the US government can officially declare the beliefs of any religion. But we have a former judge at the top, so the government can go ahead and try.
I don’t see how the U.S. government can officially do a lot of the shit that’s happened in the last year, but here we are
Say what, now?
Mormons are pretty explicitly Christian.
Mormonism categorizes itself within Christianity, and nearly all Mormons self-identify as Christian.
For those who define Christianity within the doctrines of Catholicism and Protestantism, Mormonism's differences place it outside the umbrella of Christianity.
The Wikipedia article for Mormonism has an entire section dedicated to the theological divide if you want to learn more about it.
So if someone strictly defines Christianity as exclusively two of the many sects of Christianity, that same someone will not consider other sects Christian.
That's nice, but pretty meaningless.
Christianity means the belief in Jesus as Christ. Which the mormons believe.
I'm not sure why you're downvoting me. It's not my personal opinion. I'm an atheist.
People have been debating what makes someone a "Christian" for nearly 2,000 years, and (for most of that time) it's required more than just believing that Jesus is Christ.
Reading material if you want to learn more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Christianity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism#Relationship_with_mainstream_Christianity
I'm not, but it may be due to the fact that you are speaking of a certain sect of Christianity as if it's all of Christianity.
Or that you are claiming what a certain religious sect uses as a definition overrides the English definition of a word.
Episcopalians will knee-cap you.
Wtf?
Just in time for the war on Christmas.
I’m I living in a cave, or is there no new news about his ‘killer’?
He didn’t fit the narrative they wanted so it’s crickets
Yes, because violence between differant sects of the same religion is a surprising idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarian_violence
It’s almost like there have been crusades by Christians against Christian or something
I was told by Steven Crowder that the crusades only ever killed evil people
And Cathars, and Greek folks, and Jewish folks (lots and lots of Jewish folks), etcetera, etcetera
Don’t forget about the Siege of Constantinople.
The Troubles has entered the chat
prove that the wanker was a Chrisitan
Oh fuck off with that Christian shit. "Christians " aren't a protected class any more than any other religious class. It's a big world with many religions. None of them is more special than the others.
Wasn't the guy that shot Kirk a MAGA?
No but you see, he was mereky MAGA for the last 10 years in his real everyday life, but the moment he pressed that scope against his face he suddenly decided to become woke, antifa, communist and also become a registered democrat party member (also trans)
Was he killed because he was a Christian?
No, he was just an asshole. That’s probably why he was killed.
I was gonna say he didn’t sound like a Christian at all
Yep. If there’s one group of people in the USA who are being constantly victimized these it’s the Christians.
And then they’ll lose that case
All for it would be a guaranteed win for that lawyer.
So shooting a Hindu or atheist is OK? FFS.
The guy dead was not an xtian. Real xtians aren't money hoarding pos who would turn away those in need.
Can somebody please explain to me why nobody says words on the internet anymore? Is refusing to say “Christian” making some sort of statement or is it like how Zoomers say “ahh” instead of “ass” for no apparent reason?
hi, welcome to earth, this is 2025, our lives are ruled by algorithms whose only goals is to maximize ad revenue. Tech corporations are also in bed with an authoritarian government that's actively working to erode every single clause in the constitution. So you see, people are a wee bit wary.
This is Reddit, not Tiktok or Youtube. You don't have to self-censor here.
I’ve seen people use xtian for decades, it’s not a new thing honestly
You haven’t met many Christians have you?
Nope. But I have met alot of people who claim to be.
No but I have met a lot of people who use and speak English.
thank you
Does MAGA qualify as a cult-religion?
And knowing how competent Trumps DOJ is they will fuck it up
Oh fuck, they're gonna name Antifa as the enemy in the War on Christianity and anyone who can't show proof of purchase of Trump merch is going straight to the gulag.
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They could charge anything. Gettit prisecuted? Not so much
Against a fake Christian? Lol
GOP Inner monologue: “ANYTHING BUT EPSTEIN”…
Upchuck
I can hear the "buttwhattaboutism" from here.