The state law gives law enforcement officers a choice: If they cover their faces, they lose the ability to assert “qualified immunity,” the doctrine that protects officers from individual liability for their actions. That means they can be sued for assault, battery, false imprisonment, false arrest or malicious prosecution, and the law adds a clause that says the minimum penalty for committing those offenses while wearing a mask is $10,000
The case law is on California’s side. There’s more covered in the article. The TLDR: a 2001 court ruling that says federal that can be prosecuted for unreasonable actions — they don’t get blanket immunity from state laws. We’ll see what the supremes say about that, though.
That's good to know, however, current conservative Supreme Court loves to ignore previous case law as well as the constitution in favor of tonguing their orange ones chocolate starfish.
The point of removing qualified immunity is that it doesn't depend on action in the moment or even on state prosecutors doing anything, since it opens those people up for personal lawsuits for their actions.
I see Senator Wiener said that, but reading the text, I'm not really seeing that to be clearly the case. Could you point it out for me?
I only see:
(g)Notwithstanding any other law, any person who is found to have committed an assault, battery, false imprisonment, false arrest, abuse of process, or malicious prosecution, while wearing a facial covering in a knowing and willful violation of this section shall not be entitled to assert any privilege or immunity for their tortious conduct against a claim of civil liability, and shall be liable to that individual for the greater of actual damages or statutory damages of not less than ten thousand dollars ($10,000), whichever is greater.
It doesn't seem like anyone can just sue re: masking alone, and ICE rounding up undocumented immigrants (or immigrants whose documention they've newly stripped) isn't doing any of those other things and even if they were, the victim is going to be whisked away, likely out of California, no? And even if that were the case, they're masked and unidentified, who do you sue?
Edit: In fairness to Sen. Wiener, I saw his reply I mention around the same time I made original and misremembered what it specifically said by the time I went to make this reply. Looking back, he effectively says what I'm saying here: "civil litigation enforcement by a person who’s victimized (e.g., an immigrant who’s unlawfully grabbed and imprisoned)."
The State of California cannot remove federal QI from federal law enforcement officers. If anyone tries to sue a fed in state court for on-duty conduct, the federal government will force the dismissal of the state lawsuit. The plaintiff will then have the option to sue the federal government in federal court, as the fed will be covered by QI unless he or she violated "clearly established" constitutional rights
Nowhere did I say that... You're just inserting words into my mouth because you apparently want to fight with randoms as all I did was make a comment on the current nature of the Supreme Court based on their recent history.
You say and I quote: "We’ll see what the supremes say about that, though." and I made a comment giving the current state of the supreme court.
So many angry people out on reddit just attacking random people for no reason lol.
I think you also need to find a State Cop dumb enough and willing to try and arrest a federal agent to test this out? Not sure, maybe they can sue over it
A) there would need to exist local law enforcement officers willing to detain and ticket a federal officers. good luck finding officers willing to attempt that, let alone the hassle of doing it successfully.
B) it would likely take more than one instance to set precedent. Even if they get charged every day, is the crime worth the time? Ive heard ICE agents get bounties per deport. If its profitable to do with a mask on they will still do it.
C) any conviction would be immediately appealed to a federal court. If ICE policy allows masks, they'll argue states cannot dictate federal dress code.
D) appeals may or may not win, but reviewing the SCOTUS Justices doesn't look promising.
E) honestly, I doubt this law even stops city SWAT from wearing masks during riot control.
CHP, county and local LEOs could technically arrest and book them. And get photos and personal data to prosecute them later. (I still think that many of these mismatched ICE officers are actually Proud Boys etal acting cosplay.) Then release on a ‘oops’ basis. (Isn’t it what shady LEOs do to minorities?) But in reality, what side are LEOs on? I’m not holding my breath.
So.... wait... we knew this already would be in place.
WHO can enforce this? Who will be given authority above these homegrown legalized terrorists? It's people with guns vs people with bigger guns. What does it mean "accountable"???? Are they going to be handed a paper ticket? 📃
I guess it's just adorable to me Scott has people typing on their behalf on a public reddit account on a holiday morning announcing this as if it's something Earth Shattering. (I guess the next generation of slimes / the interns gotta start somewhere)
What do you think should be done about police who are paid by our taxes not even identifying themselves so that we can know their authority is legitimate, rather than being indistinguishable from gang members in ski masks and bulletproof vests abducting people?
The law provides for both criminal (misdemeanor) enforcement and civil litigation enforcement by a person who’s victimized (e.g., an immigrant who’s unlawfully grabbed and imprisoned).
You are talking about people victimized.... AFTER the fact.
I'm asking you how it is going to be enforced when they are wearing masks as they approach crowds of people. (As we saw in San Diego.) If they are wearing masks, how can this be illegal if they're not given a ticket or arrested!?!?!
Right, it's not tested, there's no enforcement body who had jurisdiction, and the worst part is he's implying that he's addressing rights violations when all he's doing is putting up a state mask misdemeanor law.
your contention was that this law doesn’t prevent the crime from happening, which is true for most laws.
I agree with you that laws that are not enforced are not really laws. If police do not want to do enforce certain laws, how do you expect lawmakers to compel them to? This is an issue with our LEOs - and now we can apply more pressure to our local government since it is a codified law.
This guys not wrong, it’s not going to impact much of what’s going on. Visible ID would definitely be more effective.
Sure it’s a right half step(to even call it that) , but this is going to one of those legislative rules that will be taken out of context in a random case 50 years from now (if we even still have people policing lol)
Taking it to reddit and announcing this is just a facade for appeal.
Who in their right mind is upvoting this? It’s purely performative and if anything mocks the fact that SF kept forced masking for so long. Useless and dumb, go do something actually useful for our country.
It’s all in the title “MY” just wants credit of something that in reality probably does nothing to change anything. While I agree this mask stuff is BS, I don’t think this will make any difference.
Don't know much about Wiener as I think all politicians are scum. They used to serve the people - now we serve them.
The only two things I know about Wiener is that he thinks SFH are racist and he carved out a piece from the junk fees bill to continue to allow CA restaurants to charge their junk fees. Corrupt as hell.
First, can you provide evidence that he supports Israel's actions in Gaza? I'm only able to find that he is a Jew, and public statements such as on Jul 31 2035 on Facebook condemning Israel's violence, calling for a cease fire, calling for more aid, etc.
Second, are there any other issues which you disagree with?
By mid-2025, he was calling the bombardment of Gaza “indefensible,” and in September of this year, he said the Israeli plan to invade Gaza City was “abhorrent and unacceptable.”
In the interview, Wiener said the war in Gaza went “far beyond self-defense” and rooting out terror. “The obliteration of Gaza and the scale of death among Palestinians,” he said, “is an immoral thing.”
Federal officer can be tried in state court, but only for acts outside the scope of their official duties, thanks to the Supremacy Clause and federal removal statutes (28 U.S.C. § 1442);
So masking is not going to get them prosecuted. Good try
It's not unreasonable to want to avoid being targeted by extremists while enforcing valid Federal law in line with their statutory duties.
The whole point of requiring them to be unmasked is to interfere with the performance of their duties. It's all about doxxing them and the implicit threat to their well-being if they continue enforcing laws you don't like. Judges aren't fucking idiots and know this. So does Wiener, which is what is so frustrating. He could have spend this time and energy doing something useful.
Not the case. Federal agents are subject to state laws. Federal agents must obey traffic laws and any other state laws that do not impede on their duties.
"Do not impede on their duties" is the key here. The threat of being doxxed and subsequent violence does impede the performance of their duties — that's the entire point — and that's why a judge will throw this out.
I mean cool. But . Like. If you have the power to make rules that ice has to follow. Why bother with the masks? Why not just make them stop abducting people from the city?
No one should have the right to wear face masks including civilians. All federal and state law enforcement should not be able to wear any face covering and civilians should not be allowed under the law to use any form of face covering or covering to reduce or inhibit the ability to be identified in public places
Federal laws go over state laws and it's federal law that they have the right to keep themselves anonymous due to the possibility that their families could be targeted so nice try but it ain't gonna work and there is no police man in the world about to arrest an ice agent because he's wearing a mask.
He is a raging Zionist, who supported AB715. This tears down years of progress teaching young people ethnic studies in CA and censors the way students are taught about colonization, genocide, and Israel !
This law needs to be enforced across the board for all public employees. There is no reason they should be allowed to cover their faces. I get the Federal vs State thing but lets at least force local and state employess to not cover there faces under any cermstances no mater if they are law enforement, fire, ems, parking enforement, or office workers.
Fun fact 2 hours ago my parked car was struck with a moped scooter. I was standing feet away when I approached the guy about insurance he got angry and then called over his other moped scooter buddies and they smashed my windows in. He got upset the moment I mentioned insurance which means he didn't have any.
Brought to you by Scott Wiener, Co-Chair of the California Legislative Jewish Caucus, who helped author a package of antisemitism-related bills. One of the most significant is AB 715 (2025), a K–12 “antisemitism and discrimination” framework that critics say is overly vague and could chill classroom discussion about Israel and Palestine. A federal lawsuit challenging the law was reported after it was signed.
? I tried to verify this and the only statements I can find condemn the violence perpetrated by Israel in Gaza, calling for resumption of aid and an end to the war? Please don't just downvote, provide evidence. Asking genuinely here.
If he doesn't support genocide why did he back the AB 715 academic censorship bill designed to silence opposition to genocide on college campuses and ban any curriculum that presents a critical view of Israel? Why did he lead a delegation on a PR trip to meet with Israeli government officials in 2024? Why did he use his position to get education and healthcare workers fired for pro-palestinian speech and participation in the BDS movement?
Why has he consistently said he "stands with Israel" until 658 days into the genocide around the time Pelosi decides not to run again? And when he does offer any criticism now he's very careful to blame netanyahu specifically and not the systemic ongoing oppression of Palestinians. He's a Zionist. He's trying to cover it up now and appear like a moderate but he has been an extreme supporter of Israel his entire career—probably his entire life—and I don't believe for a second that his sudden change in public position is genuine.
1) It's questionable whether police officers can even be doxxed. They are a type of public figure. Sworn law enforcement serving their communities (at least that's what they're supposed to be). Certainly their name, rank, and involvement in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown is not something they have a reasonable expectation of privacy regarding.
2) To the extent a police officer can be doxxed (i.e. revealing their home address or the identity of spouses or minor children) that is potentially a separate crime. Any kind of stalking or threats towards their family or the officer would be a separate crime. But the risk of all that does not justify blanket anonymity in law enforcement. That is not part of our social contract and is a routine tactic of authoritarian regimes. Public servants should be public.
Are federal agents subject to state law?
We’ll see what the courts say. Here’s a rundown of how it works:
The case law is on California’s side. There’s more covered in the article. The TLDR: a 2001 court ruling that says federal that can be prosecuted for unreasonable actions — they don’t get blanket immunity from state laws. We’ll see what the supremes say about that, though.
CA cannot cede qualified immunity on behalf of the feds. This really is as performative as it gets.
That's good to know, however, current conservative Supreme Court loves to ignore previous case law as well as the constitution in favor of tonguing their orange ones chocolate starfish.
So what, we shouldn’t even try?
We who? Do you suspect CA cops will try to enforce this law on misdemeanor-covered ICE agents?
The point of removing qualified immunity is that it doesn't depend on action in the moment or even on state prosecutors doing anything, since it opens those people up for personal lawsuits for their actions.
https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260sb627
I see Senator Wiener said that, but reading the text, I'm not really seeing that to be clearly the case. Could you point it out for me?
I only see:
It doesn't seem like anyone can just sue re: masking alone, and ICE rounding up undocumented immigrants (or immigrants whose documention they've newly stripped) isn't doing any of those other things and even if they were, the victim is going to be whisked away, likely out of California, no? And even if that were the case, they're masked and unidentified, who do you sue?
Edit: In fairness to Sen. Wiener, I saw his reply I mention around the same time I made original and misremembered what it specifically said by the time I went to make this reply. Looking back, he effectively says what I'm saying here: "civil litigation enforcement by a person who’s victimized (e.g., an immigrant who’s unlawfully grabbed and imprisoned)."
The State of California cannot remove federal QI from federal law enforcement officers. If anyone tries to sue a fed in state court for on-duty conduct, the federal government will force the dismissal of the state lawsuit. The plaintiff will then have the option to sue the federal government in federal court, as the fed will be covered by QI unless he or she violated "clearly established" constitutional rights
And when you’re a Californian, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pocketbook. You can do anything.
Nowhere did I say that... You're just inserting words into my mouth because you apparently want to fight with randoms as all I did was make a comment on the current nature of the Supreme Court based on their recent history.
You say and I quote: "We’ll see what the supremes say about that, though." and I made a comment giving the current state of the supreme court.
So many angry people out on reddit just attacking random people for no reason lol.
ofc try, but temper expectations, is all
No, You just shouldn't have faith in a piece of paper to fight Fascism.
that’s where all this is going and we know what the outcome will be
And how would they do that if you don't know their name and don't have their face on camera?
Ugh caselaw is absolutely not on California’s side.
How would this case law apply to Federal law enforcement?
The easy answer is no. It will be shot down by the supremacy clause.
ATTN: u/scott_wiener
Please answer this in your own words.
Restaurant lobby says maybe. F that guy.
I agree with you, but let’s take the win where we can get it instead of bickering while the other side unites around a non rhyming fruit man.
I think you also need to find a State Cop dumb enough and willing to try and arrest a federal agent to test this out? Not sure, maybe they can sue over it
BEST question.
Very unlikely. This is just a performative law.
As long as there isn’t federal law that explicitly overrides, then yes
But also mass state adoption is the fastest way to influence federal law
Realistically, for this shit to fly, i think...
A) there would need to exist local law enforcement officers willing to detain and ticket a federal officers. good luck finding officers willing to attempt that, let alone the hassle of doing it successfully.
B) it would likely take more than one instance to set precedent. Even if they get charged every day, is the crime worth the time? Ive heard ICE agents get bounties per deport. If its profitable to do with a mask on they will still do it.
C) any conviction would be immediately appealed to a federal court. If ICE policy allows masks, they'll argue states cannot dictate federal dress code.
D) appeals may or may not win, but reviewing the SCOTUS Justices doesn't look promising.
E) honestly, I doubt this law even stops city SWAT from wearing masks during riot control.
Not really. They will take it to the courts but this isn’t the kind of law that would require an arrest
theyre supposed to but you cant really enforce it
Nope, this is completely performative
They are not.
No.
No, unless the federal agency agrees to be
https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/ice-wont-comply-ice-wont-comply-with-californias-unconstitutional-mask-ban-law-california-mask-law
CHP, county and local LEOs could technically arrest and book them. And get photos and personal data to prosecute them later. (I still think that many of these mismatched ICE officers are actually Proud Boys etal acting cosplay.) Then release on a ‘oops’ basis. (Isn’t it what shady LEOs do to minorities?) But in reality, what side are LEOs on? I’m not holding my breath.
No local cop is arresting a fed for wearing a mask. People rarely get booked for California misdemeanors anyway.
There’s zero actual evidence to support this conspiracy theory.
Are you really going with the proud boys narrative?
Sweetie, they're not in disguise. Theyre at work.
Can they still use N-95 masks to protect their health?
Yes, there are exemptions for health masking and for certain specialized operations such as SWAT.
Is there any provision to prevent this being used as a loophole? “I was covering my face for health reasons”
The current masks they wear to hide are not N95
How much you want to bet that Tacti-cool N-95 rated ski masks are being added to shopping carts right now?
No one cares enough to change what they’re already wearing lol.
There was no requirement for N95 mask during covid time though.
The remedy to any loopholes with this is to require that every agent have their legal identification on display and legible at all times.
And an arrest warrant signed by a judge.
They don't need those if someone already has an administrative order for removal and the subject is caught out in public.
But they are picking people off the street that don’t have administrative orders.
So why not ban balaclavas in stores?
California way!
So feds will just claim it’s always a swat operation…got it
so now everything will be a specialized operation
So that’s what they’ll do, then. They aren’t transparent. Mission accomplished, Scott. 🤦♂️
What is he supposed to do? Have no exceptions?
Yeah, that would have improved his hidden fees bill – he just loves exceptions though.
Idiotic whataboutism. This issue isn’t related in any way.
Good intentions here, respectfully I’ll believe it if/when I see ICE agents or any law enforcement held accountable by it.
To paraphrase Adam Serwer, the impunity is the point with ICE and much law enforcement generally, in addition to the cruelty.
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So.... wait... we knew this already would be in place.
WHO can enforce this? Who will be given authority above these homegrown legalized terrorists? It's people with guns vs people with bigger guns. What does it mean "accountable"???? Are they going to be handed a paper ticket? 📃
"Who can enforce it?" sums up all of Wiener's legislation.
YEP and this is why I find such posts laughable. "YAAAAAAY meeeeeeee LOOK at what I did!!"
TBF that is modern day politics in a nutshell, but Weiner is especially slimy
I guess it's just adorable to me Scott has people typing on their behalf on a public reddit account on a holiday morning announcing this as if it's something Earth Shattering. (I guess the next generation of slimes / the interns gotta start somewhere)
I don't understand the defeatism. It's a good law.
I'm not defeatist. Lol
I'm asking how this would ever be put to practice IRL. A $10k fine? Paid when & to whom and how if you're not even identifying them?
But it's not good law. It lacks an enforcement element, like ALL of his laws.
Yeah, unfortunately I don’t see this actually stopping them from masking up. Cops aren’t going to stop them that’s for sure
EXACTLY
What do you think should be done about police who are paid by our taxes not even identifying themselves so that we can know their authority is legitimate, rather than being indistinguishable from gang members in ski masks and bulletproof vests abducting people?
And don’t forget local law enforcement is overwhelmingly on the same side as federal. So stupid.
The law provides for both criminal (misdemeanor) enforcement and civil litigation enforcement by a person who’s victimized (e.g., an immigrant who’s unlawfully grabbed and imprisoned).
You are talking about people victimized.... AFTER the fact.
I'm asking you how it is going to be enforced when they are wearing masks as they approach crowds of people. (As we saw in San Diego.) If they are wearing masks, how can this be illegal if they're not given a ticket or arrested!?!?!
You do realize all laws are enforced after the fact right?
Yes but in the scenario above, no one is going to come over to them and say, "Take that mask off, it's illegal"
A LEO can go up to someone with a gun and instruct them to drop it, there is no one going to do this to ICE
Right, it's not tested, there's no enforcement body who had jurisdiction, and the worst part is he's implying that he's addressing rights violations when all he's doing is putting up a state mask misdemeanor law.
your contention was that this law doesn’t prevent the crime from happening, which is true for most laws.
I agree with you that laws that are not enforced are not really laws. If police do not want to do enforce certain laws, how do you expect lawmakers to compel them to? This is an issue with our LEOs - and now we can apply more pressure to our local government since it is a codified law.
...... exxxxactly!!! Which is WHY if giraffe is reading this thread it would be clear to them that this is, as the kids say, "PERFORMATIVE".
Do you deny all the incidents of people doxxing federal agents doing their job?
What stops you from writing the word “illegal” in front of “immigrant”, ever?
Clown.
Same guy who amended his own damn bill after getting kick backs from the restaurant industry so they can hide their fees again.
Same guy who reduced the punishment for knowingly giving someone HIV from a felony (8 years) to a misdemeanor.
This bill comes with a 5% healthy sf charge, 5% dine in fee, 10% cooking surcharge and 10% ingredient surcharge
When are you gonna run back the junk fee carve out law? Still waiting for you to represent your constituents.
Performative politics.. #1 reason why he won't get my vote.
Seriously, his thought process went like "what legislation will get me the most upvotes on reddit?"
The answer would be "more perfomative gun control". Not sure why he reinventing a bicycle
This guys not wrong, it’s not going to impact much of what’s going on. Visible ID would definitely be more effective.
Sure it’s a right half step(to even call it that) , but this is going to one of those legislative rules that will be taken out of context in a random case 50 years from now (if we even still have people policing lol)
Taking it to reddit and announcing this is just a facade for appeal.
Vote for Saikat Chakrabarti instead
I will
What about the Supremacy Clause article VI clause 2,
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-6/
Who in their right mind is upvoting this? It’s purely performative and if anything mocks the fact that SF kept forced masking for so long. Useless and dumb, go do something actually useful for our country.
I hope Wiener does something useful - gets beat in the election.
reddit is almost purely performative though...
It’s all in the title “MY” just wants credit of something that in reality probably does nothing to change anything. While I agree this mask stuff is BS, I don’t think this will make any difference.
This is only performative as federal agents are not subject to state law.
Also Scott weiner is a terrible person.
Don't know much about Wiener as I think all politicians are scum. They used to serve the people - now we serve them.
The only two things I know about Wiener is that he thinks SFH are racist and he carved out a piece from the junk fees bill to continue to allow CA restaurants to charge their junk fees. Corrupt as hell.
I don't know much about him. Can you provide some examples of why he is "terrible"?
You actually have no knowledge of our start senator or are you JAQ’n
I'm asking for people to fill me in. Is that ok with you?
He’s a Zionist who gladly supports genocide among other things.
This posturing is only for his campaign for Pelosi’s seat.
First, can you provide evidence that he supports Israel's actions in Gaza? I'm only able to find that he is a Jew, and public statements such as on Jul 31 2035 on Facebook condemning Israel's violence, calling for a cease fire, calling for more aid, etc.
Second, are there any other issues which you disagree with?
By mid-2025, he was calling the bombardment of Gaza “indefensible,” and in September of this year, he said the Israeli plan to invade Gaza City was “abhorrent and unacceptable.”
In the interview, Wiener said the war in Gaza went “far beyond self-defense” and rooting out terror. “The obliteration of Gaza and the scale of death among Palestinians,” he said, “is an immoral thing.”
https://forward.com/news/782023/scott-wiener-pelosi-jewish-democrat-israel/
Now you
Is he a Zionist or is he just Jewish?
lol that is what you think is terrible about him?
Yes they are. If a federal agent went on a killing spree, they’d still be tried for murder. “Unreasonable actions” is the current standard.
Federal officer can be tried in state court, but only for acts outside the scope of their official duties, thanks to the Supremacy Clause and federal removal statutes (28 U.S.C. § 1442);
So masking is not going to get them prosecuted. Good try
It's not unreasonable to want to avoid being targeted by extremists while enforcing valid Federal law in line with their statutory duties.
The whole point of requiring them to be unmasked is to interfere with the performance of their duties. It's all about doxxing them and the implicit threat to their well-being if they continue enforcing laws you don't like. Judges aren't fucking idiots and know this. So does Wiener, which is what is so frustrating. He could have spend this time and energy doing something useful.
Why is he terrible?
Not the case. Federal agents are subject to state laws. Federal agents must obey traffic laws and any other state laws that do not impede on their duties.
"Do not impede on their duties" is the key here. The threat of being doxxed and subsequent violence does impede the performance of their duties — that's the entire point — and that's why a judge will throw this out.
If i recall hearing about the law, it only applies to the state of CA law enforcement agencies? ICE are federal agents so it doesn't apply to them
lol pretending your laws apply yo feds
Fantastic. Public officials otherwise, too?
Who do we call if ICE violates this? During raids local law enforcement are onlookers at best, and participants at worst.
Call Scott or message him here on reddit.
We are still rolling with Saikat Chakrabarti lol
Hell yeah
We needed this to accompany badges and name tags
And then once you discover their identities what do you intend to happen after that?
Secret organizations are repugnant to a free society- Eisenhour
Dwight Eisenhower established the CIA with the National Security Act of 1947. I don't think that quote carries quite the weight you think it does.
And that last U2 flight was a doozy.
Fuck Scott Weiner.
He’s just enabling people to harass law enforcement officers who are doing their sworn duty.
If he and other elected officials did their sworn duty, we wouldn’t have mass ICE raids.
Go cry yourself to sleep. You clearly need a nap
Thanks for making our law enforcement officers doxing targets. Scott. I would not expect any less of you.
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If I am protesting, can I wear a mask ?
Only applies to law enforcement. This isn’t a ban on masks for everyone.
And who is going to enforce the law? We know the police won’t unless they are punished for failing to enforce it.
What about if they are wearing a mask because they are worried about the health risks from potentially contracting covid or a variant of it?
Wow, the bare minimum! Good thing they still operate with impunity.
The only ice agent I will ever trust will be one that is permanently prone
What abt covid masks? Ya didn’t think tht through big guy
what about during a pandemic?
So you forced masks on people but now you’re anti mask 😂😂 I swear we live in a clown world.
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I mean cool. But . Like. If you have the power to make rules that ice has to follow. Why bother with the masks? Why not just make them stop abducting people from the city?
Feds don't have to abide by your bullshit law
How do you intend to have this law enforced in any way?
Does that mean you can make citizen arrests?
It’s Beaker!
How about requiring the local "protesters" to do the same?
can we also apply this law to the drug dealers and hood rats that go around robbing stores and busting out windows?
No one should have the right to wear face masks including civilians. All federal and state law enforcement should not be able to wear any face covering and civilians should not be allowed under the law to use any form of face covering or covering to reduce or inhibit the ability to be identified in public places
Honestly, if someone masked approached me trying to force me into a car, I would open fire
Federal laws go over state laws and it's federal law that they have the right to keep themselves anonymous due to the possibility that their families could be targeted so nice try but it ain't gonna work and there is no police man in the world about to arrest an ice agent because he's wearing a mask.
He wants to win his election so bad.
And when did state law supersede federal law.
Symbolic law is always bad policy and ends up making things worse than before it existed.
I wish he’d fight drugs and crime as much as he’s fighting against other laws.
He is a raging Zionist, who supported AB715. This tears down years of progress teaching young people ethnic studies in CA and censors the way students are taught about colonization, genocide, and Israel !
Yes !
Now other states need these laws.
This law needs to be enforced across the board for all public employees. There is no reason they should be allowed to cover their faces. I get the Federal vs State thing but lets at least force local and state employess to not cover there faces under any cermstances no mater if they are law enforement, fire, ems, parking enforement, or office workers.
I was done with him when he put park hours into place!
Fun fact 2 hours ago my parked car was struck with a moped scooter. I was standing feet away when I approached the guy about insurance he got angry and then called over his other moped scooter buddies and they smashed my windows in. He got upset the moment I mentioned insurance which means he didn't have any.
Weird. California forced people to wear masks. Now they're forcing people not to wear masks. It's weird to me.
Brought to you by Scott Wiener, Co-Chair of the California Legislative Jewish Caucus, who helped author a package of antisemitism-related bills. One of the most significant is AB 715 (2025), a K–12 “antisemitism and discrimination” framework that critics say is overly vague and could chill classroom discussion about Israel and Palestine. A federal lawsuit challenging the law was reported after it was signed.
His pro genocide stance is why im backing Chakrabarti for congress.
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Heads up
Yep. He's been trying to rebrand but it's too late. We know exactly what he stands for
? I tried to verify this and the only statements I can find condemn the violence perpetrated by Israel in Gaza, calling for resumption of aid and an end to the war? Please don't just downvote, provide evidence. Asking genuinely here.
As stated above:
If he doesn't support genocide why did he back the AB 715 academic censorship bill designed to silence opposition to genocide on college campuses and ban any curriculum that presents a critical view of Israel? Why did he lead a delegation on a PR trip to meet with Israeli government officials in 2024? Why did he use his position to get education and healthcare workers fired for pro-palestinian speech and participation in the BDS movement?
Why has he consistently said he "stands with Israel" until 658 days into the genocide around the time Pelosi decides not to run again? And when he does offer any criticism now he's very careful to blame netanyahu specifically and not the systemic ongoing oppression of Palestinians. He's a Zionist. He's trying to cover it up now and appear like a moderate but he has been an extreme supporter of Israel his entire career—probably his entire life—and I don't believe for a second that his sudden change in public position is genuine.
I wonder what I could do in my state to try and help get a law like that passed 🤔
Big Talk for a law with no teeth.
Yet to be Judicially tested but sure, crow on Reddit.
Case law is in California’s side. We’ll see what the supreme’s say.
What case law?
Just a few years ago, you couldn't get MAGA to wear masks.
Antifa likes them…
I bet she does...
Who doesn't love performative politicians
No carve outs, Scott?
Fuck ICE. Still not going to vote for a Zionist tho
I didn’t have a problem with. Criminals should be prosecuted for their crimes
Thank you ☺️
what happened to wanting people to mask more
they used the law to force people to wear masks now they use the law to force them not to. it just depends on how they feel at any given moment
It’s just all so transparent and funny
How will you protect officers who are enforcing the law from being doxxed?
Why do police officers have a right to anonymity?
Normal cops walk around the city with their names on their chest and no mask. I haven't seen normal cops complaining of being doxxed.
1) It's questionable whether police officers can even be doxxed. They are a type of public figure. Sworn law enforcement serving their communities (at least that's what they're supposed to be). Certainly their name, rank, and involvement in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown is not something they have a reasonable expectation of privacy regarding.
2) To the extent a police officer can be doxxed (i.e. revealing their home address or the identity of spouses or minor children) that is potentially a separate crime. Any kind of stalking or threats towards their family or the officer would be a separate crime. But the risk of all that does not justify blanket anonymity in law enforcement. That is not part of our social contract and is a routine tactic of authoritarian regimes. Public servants should be public.
Won't someone think of the poor defenseless ice agents
This law applies to all officers, not just ICE.
Police officers aren’t anonymous. You can get their names easily.