People bringing up the fact that the memes are racist aren’t weird. It’s weird that people consistently portray her as masculine and a bodyguard for Ariana.
Because, that's the energy she's giving sometimes lol. Not masculine, but protective - which is classically portrayed as a beefy bodyguard that you can witness in many other memes throughout internet history.
However, the meme above is most accurate as Ariana sometimes does it as well. They both cling to each other. Something weird happened with that movie production man.
That’s a very weird comment to make, it’s so easy to make fun of people’s appearances, especially black women. Can’t think of less intelligent behaviour than resorting to these base comments.
I think something like 100% of the music majors at my school would say their synesthetics. A condition that can only be self reported but imbues you with a special aura of artistry. It’s practically made for the current era
I really hate how people in the arts are allergic to admitting that they had to learn things. Just for once, I want someone to come out and say "I had to make shit songs for half a decade until I finally figured out how to make good songs". But no, we're all forced to participate in this collective delusion that art is magic and some people are just born with the ability to play guitar.
Singer Rosalía is very open about this! She explains in interviews that she wasn’t naturally gifted at singing and that she had to work hard to get where she is today. There’s videos of her as a teenager in a Spanish talent show and she wasn’t very good. She’s proud of the fact that she studied music for many, many years. It’s very refreshing, actually.
A lot of musicians think they have it because they confuse the ‘feeling’ of a color (which people who listen to enough music can pick up on) with actually experiencing a color due to the connections in the brain.
I have experienced it once while playing an instrument on very strong psychedelic drugs. Was fun. Don't think it made my playing any better. Probably worse.
Who are these people?? And since when?
Musicians know it's a metaphor. People who talk about it in class explicitly discuss what colors are associated with what sounds for production purposes. If it was synaesthesia they couldn't do that.
I had a teacher in music school would earnestly describe different chords in terms of flavors not colors and I thought that was much more fun and original
When I was 18 my boyfriend cheated on me with an annoying bitch who claimed to have synesthesia, so I’ve always thought it’s a fake condition for annoying boyfriend stealing bitches. Of course Cynthia has it
Yeah they definitely remind me of the girls you’d see in the pro Ana communities, buddying up to eachother and competing/enabling at the same time. And I’m sure their people are plying them with coke to keep them going, which accounts for their bizarre interview behavior (not so much the coke itself but whatever delirium is occurring from the lack of sleep/nutrition). It’s really sad. They went full Garland
I'm glad we have this kind of JLaw back. The 1-2 combo of the internet turning on her so suddenly, and the nude photos leak would've ended the vast majority of actors. She seemed so brow-beaten in interviews like 7-8 years ago, good to see her bouncing back.
What’s responsible for the changing tides of public perception? Everyone is saying this now and idgi, she’s as annoying as she always was, except now she has bangs.
Caveat that I have a huge bias because I like her a lot, but even if you don’t like her personally, I feel like it’s undeniable that she’s at least memorable. Those Variety actors on actors interviews are normally so boring and her convo with Leo is the only one that stands out and is being talked about this Oscar season. I feel like there’s a dearth of modern movie stars who are as charismatic as she is interviews, and so I think people now appreciate and miss what she brought to the table.
A lot of people also didn’t like that she had a crude sense of humor and I think that she has toned down that side of her a bit, and I remember people would also say she acted like she was “not like the other girls” (which I think was a bit unfair).
I think we collectively decided to stop piling on famous women for dumb/mild shit. JLaw’s brand of problematic is so tame, but the backlash against her was not. So now we’re just gunna let her be her and embrace her brand of odd.
Also, she hasn’t changed but a lot of other people have. I think people find it refreshing that we’re never gunna see her pushing RFK-like pseudoscience or suddenly courting right wing media/audiences or saying trans girls shouldn’t compete in sports. Like she’s a different kind of problematic that doesn’t seem so bad anymore.
she is. i think it’s really just that she’s been out of the spotlight for a bit. palate cleanser.
for me, the constant quirky, terminally online, poopoopeepee, ‘i’m a guys girl!’ persona quickly goes from amusing to very annoying. when i first started seeing bits from her interviews i thought she was charming, but after awhile it just felt very contrived. but she can still be funny, and it’s easier to laugh when you’ve had a bit of a break from it i think.
To me, I THINK that it is that she used to have this vibe of insecurity that sometimes came out as self depreciation or defensiveness, and that usually rubs me the wrong way if I don't really think about it. I'm saying this bc I like her now and that's the thing that doesn't annoy me about her anymore
It’s 100% the work she’s had done and the new hairstyle lol. A huge hot take to be sure; but I really don’t see any other reason for a change in perception. When you’re hot, having an “annoying” personality becomes hot too. Along with Emma Stone, they both look like they got the “Margot Robbie” treatment. For what it’s worth my opinion hasn’t changed: she’s fun, she’s a harmless entertainer who sometimes says dumb things and sometimes is hilarious.
lol I agree, I think it may have been the interview with Robert Pattinson but I found them both to be super annoying in that (and I like Robert Pattinson)
synesthesia always confused me because can't you just correspond colour to sound pretty easily? like colour theory as a reference
like if I wanted to make something 'blue', I would try making something that reminds me of the sky or the ocean and what feelings they invoked. not saying it doesn't exist, but it confuses me in terms of how useful it actually would be
Hmmm, I feel I don’t really correspond colour to sound at all.
Like, black metal evokes a snowstorm to me and folk music evokes a spring morning, for example, but I wouldn’t say I “see” those things, they’re just like a metaphor of sorts. I wouldn’t say that black metal is white and folk music is green
true but I guess the sound of that is pretty dark, aggressive, kind of atmospheric and hazy. so darker colours and aesthetics fit there. but a lot of it is just personal perception and how we view and perceive things and there isn't an objectivity to how we personally feel and assign given feelings to things, but that also applies with synesthesia
It's more like actually seeing the color, not just thinking of it, but it used to be the cool quirky "condition" so the joke here is that she's an attention seeker lol
Idk what it really means to have it(if it is real at all) but I think you could easily convince yourself you had it with thinking like this.
Everyone has vague idea of what emotions equate to what colors, and you could just say "this music sounds angry I see RED!" and then tell people you have this cool art person condition.
It's not really useful for anything, but it makes listening to music kinda nicer than (I imagine) it would be otherwise. Just a weird connection your brain makes. I have synesthesia, but mine isn't visual, it's spatial/tactile.
The closest I could describe it is that there are fingers in my brain running over the melody/words lol. Idk if that makes sense. I organize playlists by what the brain feel is, not by genre. It also extends to language in general. I have very good spelling abilities because I can feel if the word feels wrong, but the flipside is that I have a strong dislike for random innocuous words. For example, the word "like" is a short aggressive flick, similar to being launched off a ski jump, and I really don't like the feel of it.
That's so interesting! I wonder, does this impact your own word choices or is it something that affects you more passively, e.g. can you still "get into" enjoying a novel or does the word-feel ever distract you?
And if this isn't too intrusive, would you describe yourself as neurodivergent at all? To me, synaesthesia brings to mind the way some neurodivergent people can respond strongly to particular words or sounds and I wonder if there is an overlap - although I'm sure in themselves they're very different things!
I think the difference is whether or not it’s a spontaneous/sub-conscious thought. Like in your example you’re purposefully trying to make a connection between a particular color and sound, but they will just see colors without meaning to. I have the same with numbers and colors but I also have aphantasia so I just think of the name of the color rather than seeing it.
I have it with numbers = colors and months = colors, which are more common forms. It has done nothing for my lame math skills, but memorizing long strings of numbers is a breeze, because they display as a vivid colorway in my mind. Some strings are beautiful, some are unappealing. Whenever I’m assigned a new number for whatever, I always hope it “looks pretty.” The attractive colorways are easiest to recall.
So it does come in super handy for remembering and reciting birthdays, full credit card info, phone numbers I haven’t physically dialed in years, account numbers, etc. I don’t have to dig out cards.
I’m a musician, but interestingly and unfortunately did not develop any such associations with tones or sound. I haven’t heard of people being able to deliberately create it—because I’d LOVE to have such associations musically—but hey, maybe it’s possible. The mind is a fascinating place.
Synesthesia is where your brain firmly (but arbitrarily) associates notes with colors, so like C is blue, C# is green, etc. I’m not sure it’s actually is useful. If it is useful, it probably makes songs easier to remember because you have two linked concepts in your mind (both a series of notes and series of colors) instead of just one concept (a series of notes).
A friend of mine had synaesthesia associating sounds and smells. We did choir together and every year or so one of the songs would smell so intense that she’d have to excuse herself halfway through rehearsal
I don’t even think this is something unique. It’s like someone talking about “the voice in their head” as if it’s a revelatory concept to the rest of the people in the room.
Believe it or not, most bands go beyond simple colors and associate their music with pictures called album covers. Sometimes, they even make moving pictures for songs called music videos. Crazy right?
That second pic, where it's just the three matching blonde white ladies othering the Black woman they think is different and weird, should be the banner image for white feminism
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God damn this meme must have some crazy monetary value, there's like 7 watermarks
finally a meme that nobody can weirdly try to bring up her race to discredit the absolute silliness going on
People bringing up the fact that the memes are racist aren’t weird. It’s weird that people consistently portray her as masculine and a bodyguard for Ariana.
Because, that's the energy she's giving sometimes lol. Not masculine, but protective - which is classically portrayed as a beefy bodyguard that you can witness in many other memes throughout internet history.
However, the meme above is most accurate as Ariana sometimes does it as well. They both cling to each other. Something weird happened with that movie production man.
I always thought she looked like gollum from lord of the rings
That’s a very weird comment to make, it’s so easy to make fun of people’s appearances, especially black women. Can’t think of less intelligent behaviour than resorting to these base comments.
I think something like 100% of the music majors at my school would say their synesthetics. A condition that can only be self reported but imbues you with a special aura of artistry. It’s practically made for the current era
I went to music school and I’d say a good 20% of people would say this shit.
I went to music school and my theory is if you’re stoned enough or take psychedelics then DUH you’ll have that ability.
I really hate how people in the arts are allergic to admitting that they had to learn things. Just for once, I want someone to come out and say "I had to make shit songs for half a decade until I finally figured out how to make good songs". But no, we're all forced to participate in this collective delusion that art is magic and some people are just born with the ability to play guitar.
Singer Rosalía is very open about this! She explains in interviews that she wasn’t naturally gifted at singing and that she had to work hard to get where she is today. There’s videos of her as a teenager in a Spanish talent show and she wasn’t very good. She’s proud of the fact that she studied music for many, many years. It’s very refreshing, actually.
I thought that’s what music theory was essentially
No
yes it is
Jacob Collier is the truest incarnation of this archetype of person. It's like he sprang fully formed from music itself.
A lot of musicians think they have it because they confuse the ‘feeling’ of a color (which people who listen to enough music can pick up on) with actually experiencing a color due to the connections in the brain.
I have experienced it once while playing an instrument on very strong psychedelic drugs. Was fun. Don't think it made my playing any better. Probably worse.
Who are these people?? And since when? Musicians know it's a metaphor. People who talk about it in class explicitly discuss what colors are associated with what sounds for production purposes. If it was synaesthesia they couldn't do that.
I was wondering about this too, doesn’t everyone have this “ability?” just close your eyes and zero in on a color
My synesthesia is so advanced I can simply see color in my mind with no external stimuli. You lesser people wouldn't get it.
Oh yeah? Name three colors
Red blue green 🔴🔵🟢
Ok you’re pretty good I’ll give you that
Wrong
i “have this” too (don’t we all??) …. but question … has hearing that someone has synesthesia ever impressed anyone?
I had a teacher in music school would earnestly describe different chords in terms of flavors not colors and I thought that was much more fun and original
When I was 18 my boyfriend cheated on me with an annoying bitch who claimed to have synesthesia, so I’ve always thought it’s a fake condition for annoying boyfriend stealing bitches. Of course Cynthia has it
my feelings and astrology
Fuck Cynthia and her stupid fake condition!
Its just autism
So this girl is speedrunning every annoying theatre kid personality trait possible huh
What the fuck is going on with those poor Wicked girls? Is the ghost of Louie B Mayer come back to torture them like he did Judy Garland?
lots and lots of cocaine and a competitive eating disorder
Yeah they definitely remind me of the girls you’d see in the pro Ana communities, buddying up to eachother and competing/enabling at the same time. And I’m sure their people are plying them with coke to keep them going, which accounts for their bizarre interview behavior (not so much the coke itself but whatever delirium is occurring from the lack of sleep/nutrition). It’s really sad. They went full Garland
I'm glad we have this kind of JLaw back. The 1-2 combo of the internet turning on her so suddenly, and the nude photos leak would've ended the vast majority of actors. She seemed so brow-beaten in interviews like 7-8 years ago, good to see her bouncing back.
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Hoe scaring
I didn’t used to like jlaw but she’s grown on me
What’s responsible for the changing tides of public perception? Everyone is saying this now and idgi, she’s as annoying as she always was, except now she has bangs.
Caveat that I have a huge bias because I like her a lot, but even if you don’t like her personally, I feel like it’s undeniable that she’s at least memorable. Those Variety actors on actors interviews are normally so boring and her convo with Leo is the only one that stands out and is being talked about this Oscar season. I feel like there’s a dearth of modern movie stars who are as charismatic as she is interviews, and so I think people now appreciate and miss what she brought to the table.
A lot of people also didn’t like that she had a crude sense of humor and I think that she has toned down that side of her a bit, and I remember people would also say she acted like she was “not like the other girls” (which I think was a bit unfair).
Right, but my question is - what changed? She’s the same as she ever was.
I think we collectively decided to stop piling on famous women for dumb/mild shit. JLaw’s brand of problematic is so tame, but the backlash against her was not. So now we’re just gunna let her be her and embrace her brand of odd.
Also, she hasn’t changed but a lot of other people have. I think people find it refreshing that we’re never gunna see her pushing RFK-like pseudoscience or suddenly courting right wing media/audiences or saying trans girls shouldn’t compete in sports. Like she’s a different kind of problematic that doesn’t seem so bad anymore.
what did she do that was problematic
Rubbed her butt on some sacred Hawaiian rocks and said some things that made people think she’s not a girl’s girl, IIRC.
honestly hilarious.
she is. i think it’s really just that she’s been out of the spotlight for a bit. palate cleanser.
for me, the constant quirky, terminally online, poopoopeepee, ‘i’m a guys girl!’ persona quickly goes from amusing to very annoying. when i first started seeing bits from her interviews i thought she was charming, but after awhile it just felt very contrived. but she can still be funny, and it’s easier to laugh when you’ve had a bit of a break from it i think.
Ok I think the answer is just “we all got a breather from her.”
People hate Cynthia Erivo so calling out her bullshit helps your own public image
To me, I THINK that it is that she used to have this vibe of insecurity that sometimes came out as self depreciation or defensiveness, and that usually rubs me the wrong way if I don't really think about it. I'm saying this bc I like her now and that's the thing that doesn't annoy me about her anymore
Same vibe as Anne Hathaway. She’s grown up and into herself
It’s 100% the work she’s had done and the new hairstyle lol. A huge hot take to be sure; but I really don’t see any other reason for a change in perception. When you’re hot, having an “annoying” personality becomes hot too. Along with Emma Stone, they both look like they got the “Margot Robbie” treatment. For what it’s worth my opinion hasn’t changed: she’s fun, she’s a harmless entertainer who sometimes says dumb things and sometimes is hilarious.
But her bleph made her less hot
What’s the Margot Robbie ?
PR: new stylist and someone is recommending her to show her straightforward Southern attitude instead of acting as a perpetual people's princess.
lol I agree, I think it may have been the interview with Robert Pattinson but I found them both to be super annoying in that (and I like Robert Pattinson)
i’ve always loved her idk she just is a funny bitch who keeps it real
synesthesia always confused me because can't you just correspond colour to sound pretty easily? like colour theory as a reference
like if I wanted to make something 'blue', I would try making something that reminds me of the sky or the ocean and what feelings they invoked. not saying it doesn't exist, but it confuses me in terms of how useful it actually would be
Hmmm, I feel I don’t really correspond colour to sound at all. Like, black metal evokes a snowstorm to me and folk music evokes a spring morning, for example, but I wouldn’t say I “see” those things, they’re just like a metaphor of sorts. I wouldn’t say that black metal is white and folk music is green
true but I guess the sound of that is pretty dark, aggressive, kind of atmospheric and hazy. so darker colours and aesthetics fit there. but a lot of it is just personal perception and how we view and perceive things and there isn't an objectivity to how we personally feel and assign given feelings to things, but that also applies with synesthesia
yeah, for me, music is way more aligned with feelings than anything else
It's more like actually seeing the color, not just thinking of it, but it used to be the cool quirky "condition" so the joke here is that she's an attention seeker lol
Idk what it really means to have it(if it is real at all) but I think you could easily convince yourself you had it with thinking like this.
Everyone has vague idea of what emotions equate to what colors, and you could just say "this music sounds angry I see RED!" and then tell people you have this cool art person condition.
People with sinesthesia actually visually see the color. It's not a metaphor or interpretation
It's not really useful for anything, but it makes listening to music kinda nicer than (I imagine) it would be otherwise. Just a weird connection your brain makes. I have synesthesia, but mine isn't visual, it's spatial/tactile.
Ooo that’s really interesting. If you don’t mind my asking, how do you experience it in a tactile sense?
The closest I could describe it is that there are fingers in my brain running over the melody/words lol. Idk if that makes sense. I organize playlists by what the brain feel is, not by genre. It also extends to language in general. I have very good spelling abilities because I can feel if the word feels wrong, but the flipside is that I have a strong dislike for random innocuous words. For example, the word "like" is a short aggressive flick, similar to being launched off a ski jump, and I really don't like the feel of it.
That's so interesting! I wonder, does this impact your own word choices or is it something that affects you more passively, e.g. can you still "get into" enjoying a novel or does the word-feel ever distract you?
And if this isn't too intrusive, would you describe yourself as neurodivergent at all? To me, synaesthesia brings to mind the way some neurodivergent people can respond strongly to particular words or sounds and I wonder if there is an overlap - although I'm sure in themselves they're very different things!
That almost sounds like internal braille that’s pretty fascinating, thank you for the explanation!!
I think the difference is whether or not it’s a spontaneous/sub-conscious thought. Like in your example you’re purposefully trying to make a connection between a particular color and sound, but they will just see colors without meaning to. I have the same with numbers and colors but I also have aphantasia so I just think of the name of the color rather than seeing it.
Thats not how synaesthesia works. It's not a metaphor. It doesn't like up with tropes, it's real colors that aren't triggered by imaginary references.
I have it with numbers = colors and months = colors, which are more common forms. It has done nothing for my lame math skills, but memorizing long strings of numbers is a breeze, because they display as a vivid colorway in my mind. Some strings are beautiful, some are unappealing. Whenever I’m assigned a new number for whatever, I always hope it “looks pretty.” The attractive colorways are easiest to recall.
So it does come in super handy for remembering and reciting birthdays, full credit card info, phone numbers I haven’t physically dialed in years, account numbers, etc. I don’t have to dig out cards.
I’m a musician, but interestingly and unfortunately did not develop any such associations with tones or sound. I haven’t heard of people being able to deliberately create it—because I’d LOVE to have such associations musically—but hey, maybe it’s possible. The mind is a fascinating place.
Synesthesia is where your brain firmly (but arbitrarily) associates notes with colors, so like C is blue, C# is green, etc. I’m not sure it’s actually is useful. If it is useful, it probably makes songs easier to remember because you have two linked concepts in your mind (both a series of notes and series of colors) instead of just one concept (a series of notes).
As I've understand it it's not just associating but sensing it like actually seeing the color
i dont think synaesthesia is real i think its like the tumblr disease with the purple eyes and no pubes
Very special people when they experience association:
You can physically see it.
This woman gives me the creeps and she's so lame
Why? She hasnt even done anything.
she called black americans ghetto
oh yeah she did do that. Crazy she said that shit while playing HARRIET TUBMAN LMAO
I like her though. I feel like people have room to grow and she has shrunk and given herself even more room
Jlaw?
Edit: I'm sorry
Lmao who could hate her
I love Jlaw interviews, her charisma is unmatched
A friend of mine had synaesthesia associating sounds and smells. We did choir together and every year or so one of the songs would smell so intense that she’d have to excuse herself halfway through rehearsal
Unless you're Scriabin level, you don't have synesthesia.
The colour 9 is yellow to me but idgaf
The most common version of synesthesia is associating days with color or numbers with color.
Colors with sound is somewhat uncommon but has become synonymous with synesthesia due to popularity.
For me 3 is yellow, and Friday is yellow too
1 for the money, 2 for the better green. 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine.
idiot. everyone knows 3 is chartreuse
I don’t even think this is something unique. It’s like someone talking about “the voice in their head” as if it’s a revelatory concept to the rest of the people in the room.
Believe it or not, most bands go beyond simple colors and associate their music with pictures called album covers. Sometimes, they even make moving pictures for songs called music videos. Crazy right?
A music video and what a synesthete "sees" in their head when music plays are not the same in any way.
Why don’t you synesthete my ass
I'm sorry but you just don't seem to understand the concept of synesthesia, because it's literally nothing like you are describing lol
Redditor ass comment
That's not synaesthesia. Synaesthesia is a neurological condition.
always liked jlaw never fell for the propaganda
bitches will think they have synesthesia bc they associate thursday with the number 4
Synesthesia is something you get from drugs.
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silly people
That second pic, where it's just the three matching blonde white ladies othering the Black woman they think is different and weird, should be the banner image for white feminism
Did they actually do anything or are you actually judging them based on their appearance?
If you read the caption, JLaw is quite literally mocking Cynthia to her face in the picture I'm referencing
Jennifer was 100% serious. Cynthia listened to the tone and answered "orange".
Have you never seen Jennifer Lawerence speak before?
Nah. This is fair. She comes across as taking this in such the absolute wrong direction it makes sense some people think it's passive aggressive.
If you watch the interview you can tell by her tone she is being sincere lmao.
Lol thank u it's not even micro it's a macroaggression
Nah she's legit just weird. But the frame is not not there.
I have, yes, quite often. That's why I assumed she was being a smartass.
Jennifer has never been known for her wit lmao
Fair, but i do think she fancies herself a wit
She IS different and weird
Yeah, usually this sub likes different and weird, but the top comments here are pretty unanimously calling Cynthia an annoying theatre kid for this.
Interesting to see who gets permission to be different and weird!
If she wasn’t bald and cadaverous I think it would be different.
Lol yeah, if she were chubby with natural hair, at least we'd be having a different conversation.
unless they’re darker than a paper bag, in which we all know the internet takes very well with opinions of people of those differences /s
cynthia erivo enthusiastically others herself dog
Yes, all the marginalized folks do