But it’s part of how you get the final product in the tutorial. It’s like me taking a knife making class and then skipping over the sharpening part of the blade. Sure you’ve made the knife but it’s not complete because you weren’t given the tools to do so within the tutorial that says you should be able to.
The way I understand the tutorial is that it’s to make a sketch of one of those flowers.
Not the final product. Because then there’s tons of other things to consider - lighting, environment, saturation, values, colour theory, style, composition, time, I could go on and on. Should they also include all of that?
Because by the logic you mention, they should. Because you can’t make a tutorial for knife making without including the handle either and then you need to consider materials, construction, design, weight distribution and so on.
Sorry to say. I feel like your point falls a bit short here. It’s a good point, I just don’t see how it’s relevant.
Also, going from 2 to 3 seems annoying because now it's telling you to erase your previous work. If you just followed the steps not looking at what comes next you probably have some bold lines there that you won't be able to erase without leaving marks on the paper.
That's... Kinda a skill issue though. Like I know I follow stuff step by step but you are pretty much always supposed to read over it then do a second round where you actually do it
It's still a little annoying. Ideally you wouldn't need to look at the entire thing first. A very good tutorial is when you can just print it out and start.
This isn't school, though. I wasn't trying to do anything dangerous or where it matters that I make no mistakes, I was just trying to draw a little flower for fun. Treating this like a test kind of takes the fun out of it a little.
It's just a demonstration, when people draw they use soft lines that are being refined during the drawing process, so what you're saying is not an issue. It's not shown like that here because it would be less clear.
I think many here miss the point of the guide. It’s a very different thing drawing shapes and colouring inside shapes. People seem to forget that guides are not always for beginners.
The final rendered flower isn’t marked 4, so it’s not one of the steps. It’s like “this could be you if you’re extra,” and the first three are the actual tutorial. Ending at step 3 is successfully drawing a flower, the final demonstrated result would come after painting the drawing, prob after following some kind of painting tutorial.
When I was learning floral illustration as a kid we used plastic bouquets for reference. They're typically quite affordable, might be a good option for you. Best of luck!
Number 1 is literally just how Charles Rennie Mackintosh drew flowers, and it's one of the most iconic things about his work.
There's nothing wrong with this...
I mean if you’re kind of new to art then this tells you nothing about rendering
It’s not a rendering tutorial though, is it?
But it’s part of how you get the final product in the tutorial. It’s like me taking a knife making class and then skipping over the sharpening part of the blade. Sure you’ve made the knife but it’s not complete because you weren’t given the tools to do so within the tutorial that says you should be able to.
The way I understand the tutorial is that it’s to make a sketch of one of those flowers.
Not the final product. Because then there’s tons of other things to consider - lighting, environment, saturation, values, colour theory, style, composition, time, I could go on and on. Should they also include all of that?
Because by the logic you mention, they should. Because you can’t make a tutorial for knife making without including the handle either and then you need to consider materials, construction, design, weight distribution and so on.
Sorry to say. I feel like your point falls a bit short here. It’s a good point, I just don’t see how it’s relevant.
Also, going from 2 to 3 seems annoying because now it's telling you to erase your previous work. If you just followed the steps not looking at what comes next you probably have some bold lines there that you won't be able to erase without leaving marks on the paper.
That's... Kinda a skill issue though. Like I know I follow stuff step by step but you are pretty much always supposed to read over it then do a second round where you actually do it
It's still a little annoying. Ideally you wouldn't need to look at the entire thing first. A very good tutorial is when you can just print it out and start.
Whats the first thing when you start doing labs in science class?
Read all of the instructions before beginning.
What are you taught to do for tests?
Read all instructions for a question before answering
Applying this to any instructions you are following is kind of a given at a certain point
This isn't school, though. I wasn't trying to do anything dangerous or where it matters that I make no mistakes, I was just trying to draw a little flower for fun. Treating this like a test kind of takes the fun out of it a little.
Then don’t treat it like a test. You can always do it again if you make a mistake, tests are more final.
That’s just how sketching works — you draw shapes and then you draw your final image over them.
Drawing pencil lines light enough to be erased is something you learn reallyyyy quickly when drawing anything at all 😭😭
It's just a demonstration, when people draw they use soft lines that are being refined during the drawing process, so what you're saying is not an issue. It's not shown like that here because it would be less clear.
Steps 1. to 3. are fine, the issue is the jump from 3. directly to the end result.
I think many here miss the point of the guide. It’s a very different thing drawing shapes and colouring inside shapes. People seem to forget that guides are not always for beginners.
The main issue people have with drawing flowers is getting the shapes of the petals down, not the coloring part.
This demonstrates getting the shape of the petals down, and then shows an example with color.
Learning how to draw flowers is easiest if you use actual flowers as reference. Figure out the shapes off of those.
The final rendered flower isn’t marked 4, so it’s not one of the steps. It’s like “this could be you if you’re extra,” and the first three are the actual tutorial. Ending at step 3 is successfully drawing a flower, the final demonstrated result would come after painting the drawing, prob after following some kind of painting tutorial.
Nah 3 to 4 is shading not how to draw a flower
I swear to God this subreddit should be called "I Assume All Tutorials Are Intended For Absolute Beginners"
When I was learning floral illustration as a kid we used plastic bouquets for reference. They're typically quite affordable, might be a good option for you. Best of luck!