This might sound dumb but could Duran play 2B? He’s the weakest of our outfielders and if they aren’t going to trade him you’ll still have 6 outfielders. (Anthony, Rafaela, Abreu, Duran, Masa, and likely Campbell) I suppose maybe you could put Masa there too but idk if either could play the position effectively.
Obviously best case scenario is signing Bichette, but still, if we don’t get him you’d likely have Rafaela at second with Duran, Abreu, and Anthony in the outfield. We have 2-3 first basemen, 2 catchers, still a million outfielders, and currently only two other infielders that I’d be happy starting in Mayer and Story. And if either goes down we’re starting Rafaela at SS and then ig Hamilton/Romy at 2nd?
Thought Duran came up as an infielder in our organization, if that’s true, I’d imagine he could play 2B. But Rafaela is most likely a better 2B and Duran showcased his best year (2024) when he played CF more than any other position.
I think he came up in the minors at 2B and he learned OF in the majors. That's why it was so bad at first and he caught so much shit from fans which made him almost kill himself.
Edit: I'm wrong. Though I swear he said that on The Clubhouse. Last time he played 2B was 2018 in Lowell.
That would be a mistake… Duran is actually a poor outfielder. He can cover ground, but is shaky even on routine fly balls. (Remember the dropped fly in the Yankee series ?)
He was very good in center in 2024. Among the GG finalists if I recall. He doesn't seem to see the ball well in left. But I don't think either of them are better than Romy at 2B factoring in offense.
John Henry is not spending money. He is among the owners who favor a Lockout to make baseball more profitable for billionaires. This is a (sad) fact. It’s been true for most of a decade.
Breslow’s plan - because he knows JWH is angling toward a Lockout - makes no sense. Not trading from the outfield means the plan always was Rafaela moving to the infield.
I’ll never understand this. We have 5 outfielders, 6 if they want to move Campbell there like it sounds. And currently if either Mayer or Story go down Rafaela moves to the infield and we’re guaranteed one of Eaton, Romy, or Hamilton at 2nd. We have an abundance at every other position. Hell we now have like 3 dudes that can play 1B. We desperately need another middle infielder/someone to play 3rd in case Mayer goes down. Idk what we have left for prospects (Romero ig? Ik Arias isn’t expected until 2027) but it’s not looking good for the infield.
Unseriousness isn’t it. It’s that they don’t want to do everything possible to win. It’s about having a cost-controlled, steady business model over about trying to do everything possible to win.
He got a better offer elsewhere because the Red Sox are cheap. The Red Sox added him last year which was supposed to you know pivot finally the Red Sox are spending again. But then they just ditched dever's contract anyway so now all of a sudden we were back at the same thing we just replaced devers with bregman.
Now we've lost them both without replacing either of them!
Only 8 teams in MLB spend less of their revenue on payroll than the Red Sox. The Baltimore Orioles spend 50% of the revenue in payroll and we only spend 40 (and that was not accounting for losing bregman that was before that was added so we're probably even lower than that now).
Just throwing numbers around like they offered 160 or they offered 40 a year is meaningless without context. If they're going to be a middling payroll team and spend among the least of their revenue on payroll of any other team in the league then they should be charging 40 bucks a month to watch the team on an app and have the second highest ticket prices in the MLB.
This is hyperbole. I get it, we’re mad, they are not an appreciably worse team than they were with half a season of the player the Cubs just signed and half a season of replacement level or marginally better play at his position while he was hurt and average from coming back too quickly.
Even if they aren’t worse, they aren’t better, and Toronto and Baltimore are MUCH better than they were last year. And the Yankees will make additions. They’re wading through the top of the FA list.
If you're just throwing people there, just sign Luis Arraez and have him play 2B. It would be better than some of the alternatives I've seen thrown around here (Duran or Rafaela).
Here's an idea ... trade for Matt Shaw to play 2b. He's got nowhere to play now with Breggy aboard. He's an offensive player who can lock down 2b for a long time.
I think he’s not quite the Lefty specialist that Rob was but doesn’t have a huge upside. Last season vs RHP, he hit .286 vs with a .718 OPS and his power fell off a cliff only slugging .400 with a 30.9 hard hit % (league average is 36%).
The team really can’t afford to have even more of a power outage and I worry more Romy just means less pop overall
Campbell played second base up until last year. Why is this even that hard a decision. You don’t need him to play first anymore and you have better options in the OF.
There's still options out there. Trade possibilities (Nico Hoerner, Brendan Donovan), free agents (Bo Bichette, Eugenio Suarez). Maybe Kristian Campbell regains the job. I don't think Rafaela plays 2B this year.
Donovan would be fine. I guess. I just don’t think after what was on balance a pretty fun and exciting season what most fans wanted was for us to become the 2025 Cardinals
Forcing Ceddanne to play 2B/SS again would be organizational malpractice smh
This might sound dumb but could Duran play 2B? He’s the weakest of our outfielders and if they aren’t going to trade him you’ll still have 6 outfielders. (Anthony, Rafaela, Abreu, Duran, Masa, and likely Campbell) I suppose maybe you could put Masa there too but idk if either could play the position effectively.
Obviously best case scenario is signing Bichette, but still, if we don’t get him you’d likely have Rafaela at second with Duran, Abreu, and Anthony in the outfield. We have 2-3 first basemen, 2 catchers, still a million outfielders, and currently only two other infielders that I’d be happy starting in Mayer and Story. And if either goes down we’re starting Rafaela at SS and then ig Hamilton/Romy at 2nd?
I said this on another thread too. He did play it in college. At this point, anything should be on the table.
Thought Duran came up as an infielder in our organization, if that’s true, I’d imagine he could play 2B. But Rafaela is most likely a better 2B and Duran showcased his best year (2024) when he played CF more than any other position.
He was drafted as a 2B but I think we converted him to OF pretty quick
I think he came up in the minors at 2B and he learned OF in the majors. That's why it was so bad at first and he caught so much shit from fans which made him almost kill himself.
Edit: I'm wrong. Though I swear he said that on The Clubhouse. Last time he played 2B was 2018 in Lowell.
That would be a mistake… Duran is actually a poor outfielder. He can cover ground, but is shaky even on routine fly balls. (Remember the dropped fly in the Yankee series ?)
He was very good in center in 2024. Among the GG finalists if I recall. He doesn't seem to see the ball well in left. But I don't think either of them are better than Romy at 2B factoring in offense.
They never really wanted to trade their surplus of outfielders according to Breslow, if this is why just lol
This is the concerning part to me.
John Henry is not spending money. He is among the owners who favor a Lockout to make baseball more profitable for billionaires. This is a (sad) fact. It’s been true for most of a decade.
Breslow’s plan - because he knows JWH is angling toward a Lockout - makes no sense. Not trading from the outfield means the plan always was Rafaela moving to the infield.
What exactly is the mechanism by which Henry wants to use the looming lockout to make the owners wealthier? Wanting to institute the salary cap?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/47108752/mlb-labor-battle-cba-salary-cap-owners-players-union-mlbpa-faq-manfred
I’ll never understand this. We have 5 outfielders, 6 if they want to move Campbell there like it sounds. And currently if either Mayer or Story go down Rafaela moves to the infield and we’re guaranteed one of Eaton, Romy, or Hamilton at 2nd. We have an abundance at every other position. Hell we now have like 3 dudes that can play 1B. We desperately need another middle infielder/someone to play 3rd in case Mayer goes down. Idk what we have left for prospects (Romero ig? Ik Arias isn’t expected until 2027) but it’s not looking good for the infield.
We are at the dawn of the Nick Sogard Era.
Was about to say this.
I would prefer Sogard to Hamilton.
The level of unseriousness is just unfathomable
Unseriousness isn’t it. It’s that they don’t want to do everything possible to win. It’s about having a cost-controlled, steady business model over about trying to do everything possible to win.
Why can’t Pedroia just stop being lazy and lace up the cleats
Fucking ridiculous. Truly. It's impressive how bad the organization is being run now.
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He got a better offer elsewhere because the Red Sox are cheap. The Red Sox added him last year which was supposed to you know pivot finally the Red Sox are spending again. But then they just ditched dever's contract anyway so now all of a sudden we were back at the same thing we just replaced devers with bregman.
Now we've lost them both without replacing either of them!
Only 8 teams in MLB spend less of their revenue on payroll than the Red Sox. The Baltimore Orioles spend 50% of the revenue in payroll and we only spend 40 (and that was not accounting for losing bregman that was before that was added so we're probably even lower than that now).
Just throwing numbers around like they offered 160 or they offered 40 a year is meaningless without context. If they're going to be a middling payroll team and spend among the least of their revenue on payroll of any other team in the league then they should be charging 40 bucks a month to watch the team on an app and have the second highest ticket prices in the MLB.
The fuck does owing anyone anything have to do with this? They offered him less money than another team and he went with the better deal
Coley has been nails all year people just hage to hear the fucking truth
Any chance KC gets another shot at 2nd?
Team recently mentioned keeping him in the outfield. As much as I don’t think we need 6 outfielders he’s not the answer at 2b
Romy Gonzalez is really good and deserves more at bats
He is not an everyday player on a playoff team
Idk man he had a 99th percentile hard hit rate last year
If you think advanced stats are gay he batted .305
Lmfao “if you think advanced stats are gay” 💀.
This is massively inflated by ideal matchups which is when he gets to play.
Well, I have good news for you...
Well then it works out since I doubt we're a playoff team anymore after losing bregman.
This is hyperbole. I get it, we’re mad, they are not an appreciably worse team than they were with half a season of the player the Cubs just signed and half a season of replacement level or marginally better play at his position while he was hurt and average from coming back too quickly.
Even if they aren’t worse, they aren’t better, and Toronto and Baltimore are MUCH better than they were last year. And the Yankees will make additions. They’re wading through the top of the FA list.
Disagree
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
If you're just throwing people there, just sign Luis Arraez and have him play 2B. It would be better than some of the alternatives I've seen thrown around here (Duran or Rafaela).
Here's an idea ... trade for Matt Shaw to play 2b. He's got nowhere to play now with Breggy aboard. He's an offensive player who can lock down 2b for a long time.
That I’m down with. Obviously Bichette is a pipe dream but this I could stomach.
Romy. Relax.
Romy would require a platoon, he ain’t holding up for 150+ games
Ugh you’re probably right. But i think he can handle more right handed pitching than he saw last year. 100-120 games?
Unfortunately our potential injury problems on the infield don’t end there. I don’t think Mayer has ever finished a professional season healthy.
I think he’s not quite the Lefty specialist that Rob was but doesn’t have a huge upside. Last season vs RHP, he hit .286 vs with a .718 OPS and his power fell off a cliff only slugging .400 with a 30.9 hard hit % (league average is 36%).
The team really can’t afford to have even more of a power outage and I worry more Romy just means less pop overall
Would like to see Sogard get more time too. Need to toss Hamilton away
Agreed. Sogard has taken advatage of his opportunities so far. Looks like a valuable bench/spot start guy with his versatility and switch hitting.
It's gonna be Romy guys
I hope they don't aggressively look for a 2b
Eaton?
Not true. Rafaela staying in CF. Donovan still out there. Romero is an option.
Campbell played second base up until last year. Why is this even that hard a decision. You don’t need him to play first anymore and you have better options in the OF.
David Hamilton has more WAR over the past two seasons than Xander Bogaerts. Don't downvote me, it's just a fact
Top prospects playing out of position love it
There's still options out there. Trade possibilities (Nico Hoerner, Brendan Donovan), free agents (Bo Bichette, Eugenio Suarez). Maybe Kristian Campbell regains the job. I don't think Rafaela plays 2B this year.
Donovan would be fine. I guess. I just don’t think after what was on balance a pretty fun and exciting season what most fans wanted was for us to become the 2025 Cardinals
LGSox.
Lots of overreactions so far, I don't think the Sox are finished yet. They have pieces to trade if they want to go that route
I think Mark Loretta and Brandon Phillips are free