If we don't sign Bichette we've whiffed this entire offseason, again. Diamondbacks backed out of trading Ketel Marte. We may end up overpaying for one or two years of Suarez because we won't sign someone over 3 years.
Die-hard Sox fan, first and foremost as far as Boston teams go, but I’ve been dialed into the Pats lately. So nice to have a real distraction from this bullshit ownership.
Still had a dream nightmare last week that the Sox traded Roman. Wish I could say I’d put it past them.
Just a generation run of awful major league talent management since 2019. The amount of talent that’s walked out the door for damn near nothing is insane.
FSG could have been viewed as fucking heroes in Boston, they turned the team around and brought huge names to the city and ripped off a generational run and they have done so insanely horribly that they managed to now become the most hated sports ownership in the city by a mile. Unless they change something fast they have entirely fucked up their legacy in the city.
Jon Lester was the signal. It's been downhill since then.
John Henry doesn't give a fuck about fielding a baseball team, he wants an investment and he knows people will buy tickets to experience Fenway regardless of the team
Don’t worry when we don’t sign Bichette and therefore do nothing with the money we saved by trading Devers while we should be spending with a young core you’ll still have jokers on this sub defending FSG
But they’re talking about Bo Bichette being $300M. Unlike Bregman, you don’t have to wait for the Bichette deal to not happen you 100% know it’s not going to happen.
"Aggressively pursue" Bichette, then "aggressively pursue" someone else when they whiff on him, then after failing that say "we tried" and plead poverty or pretend not signing anyone and playing the young guys surrounded by journeymen nobodies was the plan all along.
And then they'll make or almost make the playoffs again and everyone will keep buying merch and/or tickets! Everyone should put their money where their mouth is. In this case, don't throw it at John Henry.
or pretend not signing anyone and playing the young guys surrounded by journeymen nobodies was the plan all along.
They're gonna pretend that it wasn't the plan when in fact, it was. They tipped their hand the instant we got the report of all the guys not named Bregman and Marte that they would be interested in.
I just can't believe the amount of bozos who still believe they genuinely want the top guys every offseason.
Want to go on the record by saying that I do not think 1 year of Alex Bregman was worth pissing off and ultimately trading our 28 year old slugger who sleep walks to 30+ home runs a year
Yep, I brought this exact scenario up last spring training saying I thought it was silly to piss off our teams biggest name for a guy that could opt out after the season is done.
I was roundly roasted for thinking Bregman would ever opt out unless he had a “career year”
Feb 2025 - Bregman signed for 3yr/120 through 2027
June 2025 - Devers traded to SFG for fuck all
Nov 2025 - Bregman opts out w/o extension
Jan 2026 - Bregman signs with CHC 5yr/175 through 2031
So you're telling me in the period of 3 years we went from having a beloved 3rd baseman from our last WS win that will hit 20-30 HR and a fuck ton of doubles until 2030 and probably move to 1B/DH somewhere in there to...FUCKING NOBODY?
If there's a stiff enough breeze our whole left side of the infield is going on the IL.
Wait wait wait, I don't think that's very fair. Have some perspective. We don't have Fucking Nobody, we have an owner who just saved himself a whole lot of money, whose diverse real estate and other sports franchise portfolio is only going to grow regardless of whether the Red Sox have a winning product on the field, and in the end, isn't that really what us fans should care about?
They’ve been a joke since they kicked Francona out of town and smeared him on his way out. I don’t care that we won 2 WS since then. This ownership is a complete joke and needs to be run out of town
So glad we alienated out homegrown, potential HoF third baseman for a fucking rental who couldn’t hit for shit in the postseason. Y’know, tho whole goddamn reason we signed him.
Breslin not beating the fucking stiff allegations.
People are already saying this is an “overpay” and glad the Sox didn’t sign him. Nothing will cure this fanbase of the Stockholm Syndrome. It’s really sad.
John Henry has won us 4 championships, but it seems like after 2018, he just stopped giving a shit. I wish the Red Sox were like the Packers and was community owned instead of some asshat cheap billionaire who is all talk and no bite.
at this point, just play the young guys. Give Kristian a shot at 2nd again and embrace the youth movement. If they don’t want to spend, then don’t patch holes with more one year deal veterans and let the young guys get a real opportunity
Ownership of a major league club should be a vanity project, not a profit model. If you're rich enough to own a ball club, you're rich enough to see it compete.
And people will still show up in droves to support these assfaces in the FO and line their pockets even more, all the while, they could not care any less about winning…just feigning a community college try.
Yea this is a kick in the balls because Bregman could have been signed. Bichette is way out of their comfort zone and my only anxiety about Bo’s signing is does he go to a division rival not does he end up on the Sox.
And just like that, the devers trade was the most incomprehensible decision of this entire organization. This franchise was on a path towards long dominance and breslow has all but ruined it
Yep, I defended the trade because I assumed (wrongly, as it turns out) that they knew they had to bring Bregman even on an overpay. Devers for Harrison, a guy they traded for May, and Jordan Fucking Hicks, Bregman played maybe 65 games after Devers was traded. Hard to defend and it makes them look incompetent, like there's no long term plan besides hitting on Anthony, Mayer, etc. the AL East, and the whole AL is there for the taking. Marte or Bichette are the only guys who'd move the needle significantly now.
Fucking would bet money that they sign Suarez because he'll take short years and less money, 2 years 40 million, 3/65, something like that.
Step 1: sign bregman
Step 2: piss off devers so much that you trade him for a bag of balls
Step 3: Don't even keep the player that pissed Devers off in the first place
All the gaslighting that we recieved after the Devers trade…”this will free up money for us to invest in this team” etc, etc……just know now never listen to the spin the Red Sox media apparatus puts out there
I’m actually baffled. I think that Breslow is sincerely trying here, but either 1) he isn’t talented enough (yet) at this part of the job, 2) he’s kneecapped by ownership, 3) there’s some under-the-surface culture issue, or 4) some combination of the above.
Like I know not to take reports of offers and ~interest~ at face value, but goddamn does it get old to hear promising news and come up with nothing in these FA acquisitions. Feels like a roller coaster car with shitty brakes coming into the station, just getting jostled violently.
I came to understand and even embrace the Devers trade on the condition that we kept Bregman around, but now it’s clear that move has just aged like milk. This is terrible.
Red Sox get outbid and now a bunch of fans will scoff at the contract he got and say “glad WE didn’t pay him that.” Just as out of touch with free agency as the front office/ownership.
This hurts our chances of resigning him.
I’m feeling pretty resigned rn
So is bregman!
It also makes the lengthy comment Anthony made today at Fenway Fest about Bregman’s help sting so much more.
If we don't sign Bichette we've whiffed this entire offseason, again. Diamondbacks backed out of trading Ketel Marte. We may end up overpaying for one or two years of Suarez because we won't sign someone over 3 years.
Is this a surprise at this point? We all know what this ownership group is.
Negligent?
Cheap?
Uninterested in winning?
Cheap?
Yes
But our offer was so aggressive!?
As aggressive as what we offered Schwarber or Alonso?
Maybe it was too aggressive
They made an “aggressive offer” tho
full throttle dick in my ass
Traded Devers for a rental. Breslow has to do SOMETHING because this lineup is not intimidating
Die-hard Sox fan, first and foremost as far as Boston teams go, but I’ve been dialed into the Pats lately. So nice to have a real distraction from this bullshit ownership.
Still had a
dreamnightmare last week that the Sox traded Roman. Wish I could say I’d put it past them.In the words of Artie Bucco: non-stop ass rape.
Yeah, but you gotta get over it.
Just a generation run of awful major league talent management since 2019. The amount of talent that’s walked out the door for damn near nothing is insane.
FSG could have been viewed as fucking heroes in Boston, they turned the team around and brought huge names to the city and ripped off a generational run and they have done so insanely horribly that they managed to now become the most hated sports ownership in the city by a mile. Unless they change something fast they have entirely fucked up their legacy in the city.
dude, I almost spit my food out reading this laughing lmaooooo
Next up is Bichette to Philly
Oh we are absolutely not getting Bichette now
Nope his asking price just went up by $100m
Full throttle. I hate this ownership
Jon Lester was the signal. It's been downhill since then.
John Henry doesn't give a fuck about fielding a baseball team, he wants an investment and he knows people will buy tickets to experience Fenway regardless of the team
Soooooo we pissed off Devers for 1 year of Bregman
Not even a full year lol, more like 4 months of Bregman
And two of those he was the worst hitter on the team
Shit
And traded him for “flexibility” but have spent zero of those dollars.
Don't forget alignment! We have soooo much alignment now.
Our alignment is so hot right now
If I align anymore I’m gonna misalign
I’m so fucking done with these assholes. Fuck you, John Henry.
The flexibility was bullshit. They have like $12M in AAV this season freed up from the trade because they took back Hicks
The flexibility is for John Henry to buy another Yacht
But just imagine all the flexibility we’ll have now. Sooooo flexible.
Hey, didn't you hear Sam Kennedy? We spent it on our prospects.
But those intangibles Bregman offered will pay dividends im sure.
Pissed off is the understatement of the century lol
Not even, he only played half the season. Absolute malpractice from the FO
can't have bad chemistry if no one is left in the clubhouse.
If Romy is starting at 2nd or 3rd this season I will be inconsolable
Honestly predictable as hell, fucking knew this was going to happen
$35 million/year is an overpay. But why tf couldn’t we have worked this out during the season and avoided this cluster fuck
Don’t forget we got two of the worst pitchers in the league and another who won’t be in the rotation next year too bro 🤞
NEAT
Starting 2026 with neither is not ideal.
Maybe we can trade Hicks, Harrison, and some random ass scrub minor leaguers for Devers
They were planning to salary dump Devers all along. They just signed Bregman to try to soften the blow.
Fuck John Henry
Don’t worry when we don’t sign Bichette and therefore do nothing with the money we saved by trading Devers while we should be spending with a young core you’ll still have jokers on this sub defending FSG
But they’re talking about Bo Bichette being $300M. Unlike Bregman, you don’t have to wait for the Bichette deal to not happen you 100% know it’s not going to happen.
There shouldn't be a single FSG defender left on this sub. Absolutely pathetic
The downvotes I incurred 10 days ago for predicting FSG would predictably not sign Bregman. Not an apology in sight for 50 fucking miles
I don’t even know what you can defend at this point
You'll find out soon, because the FSG defenders will come out of the woodwork. They always do.
Gotta wait for the Globe smear campaign article to come out first so they can get their marching orders about how “we made a competitive offer!”
Whatcha gonna do Breslow. This lineup aint it.
They’ll put Duran at thirdbase
They are going to throw Campbell at third base and just say that was the plan all along.
I sure as hell hope not.
Campbell at second, Mayer at 3rd
Ahh so this is why we “never expected to trade our outfielders” this offseason
Jordan 'Hot Corner' Hicks
Good arm to fire the ball across diamond. Probably go to the right fielder but details.
"Aggressively pursue" Bichette, then "aggressively pursue" someone else when they whiff on him, then after failing that say "we tried" and plead poverty or pretend not signing anyone and playing the young guys surrounded by journeymen nobodies was the plan all along.
And then they'll make or almost make the playoffs again and everyone will keep buying merch and/or tickets! Everyone should put their money where their mouth is. In this case, don't throw it at John Henry.
They're gonna pretend that it wasn't the plan when in fact, it was. They tipped their hand the instant we got the report of all the guys not named Bregman and Marte that they would be interested in.
I just can't believe the amount of bozos who still believe they genuinely want the top guys every offseason.
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They’ve tried nothing and they’re all out of money.
Apparently put our gold glove CF at middle infield again
This ain’t Bres, it’s Mr Henry et al…
What the fuck???
I hate John Henry
I can't even say the things I want to say about that man without getting banned.
Red Sox are reportedly still interested
Want to go on the record by saying that I do not think 1 year of Alex Bregman was worth pissing off and ultimately trading our 28 year old slugger who sleep walks to 30+ home runs a year
It’s hard to understand the point of farming players just to rip them into space because YOLO
Yep, I brought this exact scenario up last spring training saying I thought it was silly to piss off our teams biggest name for a guy that could opt out after the season is done.
I was roundly roasted for thinking Bregman would ever opt out unless he had a “career year”
Plus factor in that the pick they gave up in signing Bregman was more valuable than what they got back from the Giants in the Devers trade.
Ok but something something Devers wasn't a leader or team player.
Sox traded Devers for this btw. Insanely unserious franchise.
And the worst part is 1) you’re right 2) we’ll hear about it repeatedly for months on end.
Decades
Lol. We are so fucking pathetic. Fuck this team
Thanks Bres, you fucking stiff.
Bres can only spend the money Henry gives him.
I can’t wait til he’s “shocked” by the contract offer the Cubs gave him
Jan 2023 - Devers signs 10yr/313 through 2033
Feb 2025 - Bregman signed for 3yr/120 through 2027
June 2025 - Devers traded to SFG for fuck all
Nov 2025 - Bregman opts out w/o extension
Jan 2026 - Bregman signs with CHC 5yr/175 through 2031
So you're telling me in the period of 3 years we went from having a beloved 3rd baseman from our last WS win that will hit 20-30 HR and a fuck ton of doubles until 2030 and probably move to 1B/DH somewhere in there to...FUCKING NOBODY?
If there's a stiff enough breeze our whole left side of the infield is going on the IL.
Wait wait wait, I don't think that's very fair. Have some perspective. We don't have Fucking Nobody, we have an owner who just saved himself a whole lot of money, whose diverse real estate and other sports franchise portfolio is only going to grow regardless of whether the Red Sox have a winning product on the field, and in the end, isn't that really what us fans should care about?
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The tight wads walk into every post season saying we need to sign bats. This organization is repulsive, and it needs to be addressed.
Hot dogs will still cost $10
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Still so many FSG bootlickers in this sub. It's sad
traded raffy for one year of a mediocre alex bregman ✌️✌️✌️✌️
Well watch bregman have 2 above average seasons on CHI and then be on And off the DL for the rest of his career
Yeah hopefully the Cubs don’t go bankrupt. Give me a break man
Not even a full year, he was injured.
This organization has been a joke the moment they traded Mookie. Shame on us for ever thinking this is still a properly run organization
They were a joke the moment they offered Lester the Homer Bailey contract.
Pretty much everything can be traced back to there. It was the start of it all
They’ve been a joke since they kicked Francona out of town and smeared him on his way out. I don’t care that we won 2 WS since then. This ownership is a complete joke and needs to be run out of town
Billionaire owner refuses to spend money, unless John Henry doesn’t own the team anymore. Can’t believe they traded Raffy just to let Bregman walk.
Fuck this ownership.
It makes sense if you realize they aren't ownership, they're an investment group and the Sox are simply a portfolio item.
That Rafa trade is a disaster now
It was a disaster already
Always has been.
Full throttle
In before FSG damage control “wE tRiEd tO SiGn HiM”
That already happened the other day when they had an “aggressive offer” that got reported
Is there a record for most offers to FAs without a bite?
Tar and feather Sam Kennedy on landsdowne
Fuck
FUCKK
The stick up Breslow’s ass grew three sizes this day
As my kids used to say when learning how to cuss, this is fuck.
So glad we alienated out homegrown, potential HoF third baseman for a fucking rental who couldn’t hit for shit in the postseason. Y’know, tho whole goddamn reason we signed him.
Breslin not beating the fucking stiff allegations.
Oh fuck all the way off. The Boston Red Sox are a poverty franchise.
Burned bridges with Devers for a mid season with Bregman 🔥🔥🔥 2020s Red Sox never fail to disappoint
Yeah I want Devers back.
It's hilarious and sad at the same time that there are still FSG defenders in this sub. John Henry is unserious and needs to sell the team
People are already saying this is an “overpay” and glad the Sox didn’t sign him. Nothing will cure this fanbase of the Stockholm Syndrome. It’s really sad.
Lol they act as if the money is coming out of their wallets personally. FSG is gonna jack up ticket prices either way
Yeah who the hell cares. I just want a good team now.
8 years of generational, homegrown talent for 114 games of Bregman. Everybody in the FO top to bottom should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.
Don’t forget 1.5 years of “Michael”’ Jordan Hicks!
What. The. Fuck.
Nobody wants to sign here. Wonder why
John Henry has won us 4 championships, but it seems like after 2018, he just stopped giving a shit. I wish the Red Sox were like the Packers and was community owned instead of some asshat cheap billionaire who is all talk and no bite.
yeaahhhh i'm gonna hop on the "sell the team" boat now i think
at this point, just play the young guys. Give Kristian a shot at 2nd again and embrace the youth movement. If they don’t want to spend, then don’t patch holes with more one year deal veterans and let the young guys get a real opportunity
But then how can they sell $100 tickets to see us “contend” for the 2nd wildcard
Is the offer they talked so much about in the room with us
Really hoping the owners sell the team. Red Sox operating like a small market team is beyond pathetic
FSG is such a miserable joke of an ownership group.
ok now we officially suck
Are the red sox still "in" on him tho?
Sell the team. What a joke of an offseason.
Yo, where the Devers money at?
I'm not all that disappointed. I was not expecting him to be back with the Red Sox.
I am, however, expecting the Red Sox to do nothing more this offseason to improve the team.
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Sell the team already.
35 million a year for 5 years? Got damn!
Gotta make this right and get Bo!
Zero percent chance we sign Bo.
Yup, he will now be more expensive for the Red Sox and they will not spend on him
They won’t
We’re going to sign a couple of platoon players and meh pitchers and call it a day like always
Cmon everyone tell me how trading Devers for one year of Bregman was a good idea you inbred morons
B-b-b-b-but he was a lOcKeR rOoM cAnCeR
Ownership of a major league club should be a vanity project, not a profit model. If you're rich enough to own a ball club, you're rich enough to see it compete.
fuck
Welp
Don’t worry. We can still sign Max Kepler and wait out his suspension.
1B Devers + 3B Bregman will be almost as good of a duo in my dreams as 1B Rizzo + 3B Beltre
Good offseason. fucking joke. Home you all enjoyed the slobber-fest at fenway today
Sell the fucking team
And people will still show up in droves to support these assfaces in the FO and line their pockets even more, all the while, they could not care any less about winning…just feigning a community college try.
Light the cigars, boys!
Full throttle!!
Well, at least we have nothing for all our efforts
Silver lining: we can immediately go back to hating Bregman
oh my fucking god, why do i put any sort of hope into this front office to make a decent decision. bichette or bust i guess. goddamn this sucks
lol, they're not signing Bichette.
Yea this is a kick in the balls because Bregman could have been signed. Bichette is way out of their comfort zone and my only anxiety about Bo’s signing is does he go to a division rival not does he end up on the Sox.
Traded carita for one year of Bergman good job !!!! Clowns man
That's funny. I was told the Cubs didn't need a 3B because they had Matt Shaw. And that's why Bregman had no market.
By the way if the Cubs try to flip Shaw to the Sox, I will be very upset.
Welp. You said it. Now it’s happening.
And just like that, the devers trade was the most incomprehensible decision of this entire organization. This franchise was on a path towards long dominance and breslow has all but ruined it
Yep, I defended the trade because I assumed (wrongly, as it turns out) that they knew they had to bring Bregman even on an overpay. Devers for Harrison, a guy they traded for May, and Jordan Fucking Hicks, Bregman played maybe 65 games after Devers was traded. Hard to defend and it makes them look incompetent, like there's no long term plan besides hitting on Anthony, Mayer, etc. the AL East, and the whole AL is there for the taking. Marte or Bichette are the only guys who'd move the needle significantly now.
Fucking would bet money that they sign Suarez because he'll take short years and less money, 2 years 40 million, 3/65, something like that.
Now the Devers trade is now a forever meme of worst trades a team has made lmao. Absolutely brutal
Step 1: sign bregman Step 2: piss off devers so much that you trade him for a bag of balls Step 3: Don't even keep the player that pissed Devers off in the first place
Step???: Profit?
It's time to talk about the Devers trade again.
So we traded Devers for half a season of Bregman???
100% a reaction to coras "balls in his court"
All the gaslighting that we recieved after the Devers trade…”this will free up money for us to invest in this team” etc, etc……just know now never listen to the spin the Red Sox media apparatus puts out there
Can’t wait to hear the classic “we tried” to keep him excuse from the front office. Unless Bichette is coming here, this is a terrible loss.
Better get bichette now or we’re cooked
0% chance Bichette signs with the Red Sox.
Bro. Do not get your hopes up.
lol he will now be way too expensive for the Red Sox, we will play youth instead this year
Read the writing on the wall bro
Can anyone help me and rationalize the Devers trade
John Henry is a cheap prick scumbag. That’s the rationale for the Devers trade.
I’m actually baffled. I think that Breslow is sincerely trying here, but either 1) he isn’t talented enough (yet) at this part of the job, 2) he’s kneecapped by ownership, 3) there’s some under-the-surface culture issue, or 4) some combination of the above.
Like I know not to take reports of offers and ~interest~ at face value, but goddamn does it get old to hear promising news and come up with nothing in these FA acquisitions. Feels like a roller coaster car with shitty brakes coming into the station, just getting jostled violently.
Fuck you Henry and Lucchino’s ghost.
Fuck.
I came to understand and even embrace the Devers trade on the condition that we kept Bregman around, but now it’s clear that move has just aged like milk. This is terrible.
Full throttle part deux
Wow RedSox really just let Alex Bregman walk .. who’s our power bat now ? We gonna team with a bunch of base hit hitters
As soon as that article ranked the Sox at #5 in power rankings John Henry put his wallet away for the year
They really do everything they can to make you hate them.
Red Sox get outbid and now a bunch of fans will scoff at the contract he got and say “glad WE didn’t pay him that.” Just as out of touch with free agency as the front office/ownership.
I wouldn’t have paid Bregman that kind of money. But, they need at least one more bat. And an arm.
I’m fine w/Mayer starting/playing regularly
Where are all the wait and see mfs now