The total number of accidents involving motorcycles stays roughly the same, there's a decrease in motorcycles getting rear ended while an increase in other kinds of accidents.
There aren't studies on the severity of injuries from lane splitting accidents, but in general rear ending accidents are pretty bad.
The data shows risk of a lane splitting motorcycle causing an accident is balanced by the reduced risk of being rear ended by a car. There isn't a reduction or increase in the number of motorcycle involved accidents where there is lane splitting.
my wife had our 9 month old in her car and a random rebar pole in the road punctured her gas tank after she drove over it. gas everywhere. it could have been a disaster
I was like do they? So Google it was. Then I was like get the F outta here with this $hit. I had to report back with my findings I never would have thought.
It’s honestly never crossed my mind to search that up, but I learnt something new today.
That being said, I can’t really see any justifiable use for bluetooth ratchet straps over normal ratchet straps besides strapping down delicate cargo.
Southern California mentality: As long as I’m making enough to pay the ticket if I get caught, it’s worth it. Can’t tell you how much shit if ran over or almost ran over because people don’t care about anything but the paycheck. Then my paycheck goes into 2 new tires and a new rim because they don’t care to secure loads and I have to fix it myself. True story, I have pictures
It’s an extremely common setup in the oilfield where a pump jack pump shop needs to pick up and deliver 20’ pump rods but it’s not worth running around a full trailer.
That’s not redneck engineering, that’s how you transport rebar
I’m being downvoted by people clearly not in the construction industry or have any idea how rebar gets to a job site from Home Depot or wherever your local contractor is buying rebar. Go to Home Depot between 6 am and 7 am. You will see this transport rig on several trucks
Edit: ok traffic warriors, I’m a licensed California contractor. Unless you have some actual experience or know anything about the industry, shut the fuck up. Your anecdotes are wrong. Just because “you’ve only seen it on a flatbed” means you clearly have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about
As someone who was in the construction industry and has never seen this because it is illegal in my state. Loads can not extend past the left fender line and can extend 6" past the right fender line. So while it may be common in your area if this was used in my area you would get a hefty ticket and have the vehicle impounded until it was made road legal. This also would not pass the yearly mechanical safety certification for vehicles of that size. There are exemptions for agricultural equipment, snowplows, and permitted loads that operate during daylight hours. So this is not how rebar gets to the job site in every state.
Wait, this is the actual way you do it?! So it's legal and safe??
Edit: I guess not, that's why you don't believe shit you read in the internet boys.
More Edit: This is the first time I have seen a comment swing from -8 karma to +5 karma. I guess this comment is correct? That's the more common consensus?
To your first question yes. To your follow up, idk lol. In California I believe nothing is allowed to extend past your vehicle by more than 3’. I’m not sure if that includes to the sides though. I see it with concrete contractors constantly and CHP is notorious for writing tickets for improper loads so I assume it’s either legal or a legal grey area
Turns out it’s legal
Width and Marking Requirements (CVC \S24604)
• Standard Width Limit: The general maximum width for a vehicle and its load is 8 feet 6 inches (102 inches). Loads exceeding this typically require a special permit (CVC \S35100).
• Projecting Side Loads: If the rebar extends more than two feet beyond the sides of the vehicle, you must display:
• Two warning flags or cloths (red or fluorescent red/orange) located to indicate the maximum width of the load. The flags must be at least 12 inches square during daylight (CVC \S25104).
This is pretty common in the concrete industry. Its dumb to pull a trailer for a few sticks of rebar unless you're also pulln a form trailer or some trowel machines. Its better than throwing it up on top of a ladder rack. Thats just dumb and takes forever to get it up there and get it back down. Ive seen plumbers carry pipe like this also. Though I usually see more straps. Also this is perfectly legal in many states. Some states consider the width of the truck to be the mirrors. Thats part of the reason you often see smaller trucks with trailer mirrors for no reason. Some states also have a set width the vehicle is allowed to be, mirrors or not. So having an extra foot on one side isnt illegal at all as long as it doesnt go over that width. Shit... Swangaz are legal in some states. Ive never worked in California, but this is perfectly normal to see in the Midwest and the South.
Obviously lots of people, otherwise they wouldn't sell it. I regularly buy rebar from home depot. Im not building skyscrapers im pouring sidewalks, driveways and patios. If I need sticks on the way to a job its easier to pick it up at home depot a mile a way instead of calling my bulk supplier from 30 miles away and asking them to deliver 10 sticks of rebar on a semi. Sure, the bulk supplier sells 10 ft sticks 34 cents cheaper, but they dont deliver for free.
You wouldn't believe how heavy those bars get, especially at that amount. Definitely needs hi vis stickers/paint, but it just means the weight distribution is low, so no tipping
This is such a diverse image, fits into this sub just as much as it does into the OSHA subs.
Few additions might be steel plates at front and back to prevent braking from sending them flying, strapping them down in a few places to secure the load, and bright paint with flashing lights on the outside edge of the frame.
No one is going to see that at night time and it's such an uncommon modification (at least in my experience) that it wouldn't be expected at all, and given it's pretty much invisible at night time it's very much a "good luck to everyone else" kinda modification
Not sure about Redneck here, give an A for effort. Look like those metal pieces are longer than the truck, and heavy, so they would not be an easy thing to get on the truck or off. This looks like a good solution for this.
I don't know why this is a bad thing as long as they're strapped in properly other than the fact that he should probably have some high Vis painted on it or something, but I'd much rather have one hit the freeway this load of the ground then go flying off the top of a truck and go through my windshield and stick me in the eye and come out the back of my head and then go through my seat rest back and kill the person in the backseat also and then going through the back seat and piercing the gas tank and blowing up my car which in turn will blow up three others around me causing the bridge to collapse forcing me to escape through the sunroof with what's left of my head only to slip and fall down into the river that carries me away. That would suck
Glad this is a non issue with Australian tradie utes/ cab chassis . Alloy tray with ladder racks and sometimes the front bull bar has its own rack for long items.
We have ladder racks on trucks here too, but in the concrete industry you dont want to load rebar on top of the truck and then get it down. Also thats worse for safety. In the event of a wreck its better for the rebar to be low to the ground instead of sliding from the top. This guy is an asshole for not having it strapped. If your gonna ride with unstrapped rebar though its safer the lower it is.
Pool instalers use these to haul rebar around. Better than putting on top rack, so people don't get speared when they stop pluss alot of wieght, easier to load and unload
Ahh yes,
The Inertial Rebar Freedom Flinger
Instructions:
Accelerate to 90,
Apply the brakes aggressively
Voila, sit back and watch traffic, protesters, polices blockades, you name it get eviscerated by your 20ft Freedom Spikes
The first second I saw this i thought the truck was just sitting on its axles with no tires lol
ngl same like i had to do a double take thought it was some crazy stunt
Can someone please explain what I just saw?
Edit. Nevermind. I saw it.
Oh my god so did I. This is full what in tarnation.
It's not?
Javelin shotgun
yeet
I thought the same until I read your comment
Same, took me two Minutes
Gonna need a "Wide Load" sign and some neon orange flags in order to prevent an accident.
Yeah can't wait to see a biker try to split lanes
Stupidest thing ever to be legal.
The truck?
Lane splitting
There's no extra risk and it gets the guy on the bike off the road and where he is going faster.
Only downside is people in boxes getting jealous.
“No extra risk” is actually a moron statement. I don’t have any beef with lane splitting, but you’re counting on everyone else to keep you alive.
And that’s a stupid fucking way to move through the world
Yeah because nobody ever changes lanes suddenly and without warning.
The total number of accidents involving motorcycles stays roughly the same, there's a decrease in motorcycles getting rear ended while an increase in other kinds of accidents.
There aren't studies on the severity of injuries from lane splitting accidents, but in general rear ending accidents are pretty bad.
Do you legitimately believe there is no risk in lane splitting?
No.
The data shows risk of a lane splitting motorcycle causing an accident is balanced by the reduced risk of being rear ended by a car. There isn't a reduction or increase in the number of motorcycle involved accidents where there is lane splitting.
Some studies show that, not all, right?
Support your local air medevac helicopter pilot.... drive a motorcycle. Lane splitting, no helmets, the faster the better.
Username checks out.
Jealous?
And for when your mother’s riding with him?
She comes with a trailer thats properly flagged and tagged..... I ain't letting nothing happen to momma
Technically won't need it if he's at 102" or less in width. And I think he just might be too. Would need clearance and ID lights tho
Technically Maybe not . . . Practicality says should.⚠️ Safety says should.⚠️ Caring about pedestrians legs says should.⚠️
Does this look like someone who cares about pedestrians or other drivers?
They didn't even attempt to tie it down as far as I can see
Caring about anyone but yourself is LGBT+ blue-haired socialism according to people who drive vehicles like this.
"Them plates say California" - Cooter Bob, 9th generation Appalachian
Maybe a strap or two to stop them flying forward whilst braking
This is definitely illegal
He’s in california, the CHP will not like that.
Yeah - they don't look like they're secured at all, just lying in there - emergency stop or collision will send them like arrows 🤌
Final destination set up.
Start of The Descent vibes.
CHP will watch this guy go by without batting an eye and then pull you over for having a taillight out.
my wife had our 9 month old in her car and a random rebar pole in the road punctured her gas tank after she drove over it. gas everywhere. it could have been a disaster
Brother in Christ, I didn't know where this plane was landing when it took off but I'm glad to hear everyone is safe.
I see this set up in the Bay Area all the time
I'm not in California and I don't like it.
Looks like Brentwood to me. Checks out!
I think this guy's in the bay area. CHP give no ducks here.
Yeah this is a Alabama thing at best
Lies, no one in alabama would be caught dead with a chevy.
Most people in Alabama can't spell Chevy.
Ok but what happens when homeboy slams on the brakes because he is fiddling with his phone while driving?
Unloading
Then other people die.
Launch Missles!!!!
Home made kinetic weapon.
Those tie down straps are mint🤌
You mean the see through ones? They paid extra for those
Bluetooth
You're not gonna Fn believe this!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nraGuElWAFw
I’m afraid I’m going to have to report you to the mods because of that video…
That’s clearly blueneck engineering, not redneck engineering.
I was like do they? So Google it was. Then I was like get the F outta here with this $hit. I had to report back with my findings I never would have thought.
It’s honestly never crossed my mind to search that up, but I learnt something new today.
That being said, I can’t really see any justifiable use for bluetooth ratchet straps over normal ratchet straps besides strapping down delicate cargo.
Mine would be if one lets go while driving you know instantaneously vs 50 miles down the road or having another driver flag you down.
I have absolutely no need for that product. I want a set.
Bluetooth Babysitter, ratchet them up and away you go
They were literal mints that flew off miles back.
New-in-box
“They’re heavy enough. Never slipped any other time I done it.”
I see this set up on the highways of Southern California all the time and wonder how this is allowed.
Southern California mentality: As long as I’m making enough to pay the ticket if I get caught, it’s worth it. Can’t tell you how much shit if ran over or almost ran over because people don’t care about anything but the paycheck. Then my paycheck goes into 2 new tires and a new rim because they don’t care to secure loads and I have to fix it myself. True story, I have pictures
Highway speed rebar missiles FTW
I see Final Destination Seven has started filming.
They're trying out the reality TV format.
In Hawaii, the surfers do something similar on their bikes and mopeds.
Edit to add clarity: That's how they mount their surfboards.
It’s an extremely common setup in the oilfield where a pump jack pump shop needs to pick up and deliver 20’ pump rods but it’s not worth running around a full trailer.
Prolly an oilfield truck. Seen this before.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OSHA/s/F9qiPOrIHv
wow so more people do this shit?
I've probably seen this 20 times in the last couple years....seems pretty common to me.
Very common in any oil boom location
In the oil field there are pipe racks just like this that people make for rods, tubing and casing
That’s not redneck engineering, that’s how you transport rebar
I’m being downvoted by people clearly not in the construction industry or have any idea how rebar gets to a job site from Home Depot or wherever your local contractor is buying rebar. Go to Home Depot between 6 am and 7 am. You will see this transport rig on several trucks
Edit: ok traffic warriors, I’m a licensed California contractor. Unless you have some actual experience or know anything about the industry, shut the fuck up. Your anecdotes are wrong. Just because “you’ve only seen it on a flatbed” means you clearly have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about
We just used a trailer…
As someone who was in the construction industry and has never seen this because it is illegal in my state. Loads can not extend past the left fender line and can extend 6" past the right fender line. So while it may be common in your area if this was used in my area you would get a hefty ticket and have the vehicle impounded until it was made road legal. This also would not pass the yearly mechanical safety certification for vehicles of that size. There are exemptions for agricultural equipment, snowplows, and permitted loads that operate during daylight hours. So this is not how rebar gets to the job site in every state.
not in construction, but in Calif. I’ve seen that set up for the contractors doing rebar for swimming pools, including my pool remodel.
I have also seen this setup for hauling 21' pipe on a cube van.
I've never seen rebar not on a flatbed.
You’ve never seen a concrete contractor
I mean, I've never worked small enough projects to where it is financially feasible to get deliveries on pickup trucks.
I don't know why you're so offended that you had to quote me. I didn't even contradict you. Have a cup of tea and calm down.
You've never seen a concrete contractor in a place with functional safety laws.
Yeah California is known for its lax standards. You’re a clown
Wait, this is the actual way you do it?!So it's legal and safe??Edit: I guess not, that's why you don't believe shit you read in the internet boys.More Edit: This is the first time I have seen a comment swing from -8 karma to +5 karma. I guess this comment is correct? That's the more common consensus?
To your first question yes. To your follow up, idk lol. In California I believe nothing is allowed to extend past your vehicle by more than 3’. I’m not sure if that includes to the sides though. I see it with concrete contractors constantly and CHP is notorious for writing tickets for improper loads so I assume it’s either legal or a legal grey area
Turns out it’s legal
Width and Marking Requirements (CVC \S24604) • Standard Width Limit: The general maximum width for a vehicle and its load is 8 feet 6 inches (102 inches). Loads exceeding this typically require a special permit (CVC \S35100). • Projecting Side Loads: If the rebar extends more than two feet beyond the sides of the vehicle, you must display: • Two warning flags or cloths (red or fluorescent red/orange) located to indicate the maximum width of the load. The flags must be at least 12 inches square during daylight (CVC \S25104).
This is pretty common in the concrete industry. Its dumb to pull a trailer for a few sticks of rebar unless you're also pulln a form trailer or some trowel machines. Its better than throwing it up on top of a ladder rack. Thats just dumb and takes forever to get it up there and get it back down. Ive seen plumbers carry pipe like this also. Though I usually see more straps. Also this is perfectly legal in many states. Some states consider the width of the truck to be the mirrors. Thats part of the reason you often see smaller trucks with trailer mirrors for no reason. Some states also have a set width the vehicle is allowed to be, mirrors or not. So having an extra foot on one side isnt illegal at all as long as it doesnt go over that width. Shit... Swangaz are legal in some states. Ive never worked in California, but this is perfectly normal to see in the Midwest and the South.
No, this is not how you do it, you get it trucked in on a flatbed
I don’t know, I usually use the phone, and get it delivered. Seems like that would be “THE” way to do it…
Never seen it any other way
I've seen this in multiple states.
Because it’s how you transport rebar on a pickup. People are just fucking stupid
I agree, it's weird because this feels like common knowledge.
Only if you leave your mom's basement, which rules out vast swathes of redditors...
I've seen it many times as well.
No, this is some redneck fuckery, and who the hell buys rebar from home depot?
Obviously lots of people, otherwise they wouldn't sell it. I regularly buy rebar from home depot. Im not building skyscrapers im pouring sidewalks, driveways and patios. If I need sticks on the way to a job its easier to pick it up at home depot a mile a way instead of calling my bulk supplier from 30 miles away and asking them to deliver 10 sticks of rebar on a semi. Sure, the bulk supplier sells 10 ft sticks 34 cents cheaper, but they dont deliver for free.
He answers to the name of 'Rod'.
My favorite part is the lack of any kind of tie down strap on it.
Wow… this is so dangerous… no end caps??
I had to go to the comments because my blind eyes still couldn’t see what was going on here
Just hope he doesn't slam on the breaks on those go and pierce the car in front of him.
How does he turn? Seems like the bars would hit the tires.
lol thanks for stealing my post
Mad I didn’t think of this first
You wouldn't believe how heavy those bars get, especially at that amount. Definitely needs hi vis stickers/paint, but it just means the weight distribution is low, so no tipping
Good thing it's strapped down.
I remember seeing this contractor who built my school with a rebar rack like that
This is giving off final destination vibes.
Mini final destination 2 waiting to happen.
Holy load securement, hit the brakes a little too hard and send them off into traffic like a missile
I don't know though, I mean if there's secure at least they're not going through windshields because they're sliding off the roof now? LOL.
Why not build a roof rack!
Sketchy, likely less than legal, and using the honor system for cargo retention... Yeah. Redneckified.
Gotta say it looks like a real good shin buster, and that's not even the worst of it.
People will do anything but buy a trailer
This is such a diverse image, fits into this sub just as much as it does into the OSHA subs.
Few additions might be steel plates at front and back to prevent braking from sending them flying, strapping them down in a few places to secure the load, and bright paint with flashing lights on the outside edge of the frame.
No one is going to see that at night time and it's such an uncommon modification (at least in my experience) that it wouldn't be expected at all, and given it's pretty much invisible at night time it's very much a "good luck to everyone else" kinda modification
That’s one way to do it
Well, no chance it rolls taking a 25mph corner at 50.
From this picture it looks like when he turns the wheel will hit the rebar?
And weighing in: in my limited experience, I’ve transported rebar on a flatbed.
Not sure about Redneck here, give an A for effort. Look like those metal pieces are longer than the truck, and heavy, so they would not be an easy thing to get on the truck or off. This looks like a good solution for this.
My dad did some thing like this with our small car But he strapped it under the center of the car
When your only tool is a welder… But as long as it’s balanced on the other side, it might work well.
Till he needs to hit the brakes hard
Fair, he needs some pockets on either end.
Spaced armor
No markers or reflectors even. nice.
Gotta be csx or train related work
My guess is he’s avoiding a trailer because the combined weight would make him a higher class DOT regulation.
I’ve seen a Tacoma haul 20’ stock under the chassis before. I thought it was ghetto af, but they actually knew what they were doing and it looked safe
I don't know why this is a bad thing as long as they're strapped in properly other than the fact that he should probably have some high Vis painted on it or something, but I'd much rather have one hit the freeway this load of the ground then go flying off the top of a truck and go through my windshield and stick me in the eye and come out the back of my head and then go through my seat rest back and kill the person in the backseat also and then going through the back seat and piercing the gas tank and blowing up my car which in turn will blow up three others around me causing the bridge to collapse forcing me to escape through the sunroof with what's left of my head only to slip and fall down into the river that carries me away. That would suck
/S
Glad this is a non issue with Australian tradie utes/ cab chassis . Alloy tray with ladder racks and sometimes the front bull bar has its own rack for long items.
We have ladder racks on trucks here too, but in the concrete industry you dont want to load rebar on top of the truck and then get it down. Also thats worse for safety. In the event of a wreck its better for the rebar to be low to the ground instead of sliding from the top. This guy is an asshole for not having it strapped. If your gonna ride with unstrapped rebar though its safer the lower it is.
Yeah.. that’s how people die..
Near San Diego? I think I saw this guy on my way to work and was questioning the legality of it lol.
Pretty common in oilfield areas to hotshot small amounts of pipe and other oil well tools
Pool instalers use these to haul rebar around. Better than putting on top rack, so people don't get speared when they stop pluss alot of wieght, easier to load and unload
Cheaper to have it delivered than redneck engineer something that dumb.
Ahh yes, The Inertial Rebar Freedom Flinger Instructions: Accelerate to 90, Apply the brakes aggressively Voila, sit back and watch traffic, protesters, polices blockades, you name it get eviscerated by your 20ft Freedom Spikes
Carpoon seen in the wild.
I'm wondering how much you can turn before the front wheels catch the load
Those poor wheel bearings….
California plates
That’s actually pretty common and it’s for your safety
is that threaded rod? is this fucker a sprinkler fitter?
Rebar, likely.
Is that a railroad truck?
Looks like hightailer rims. I don't see any track wheels tho.
Based on the wheels and the way this truck looks I would agree and also assume that it’s a railroad truck.
Is this on the 15 near Escondido?
Sometimes on my commute I’ll pass by a white truck rigged like that. He drove down the middle. I’ve seen him loaded up more than that too?
Danger Will Robinson!
Legality and risk aside, how does the tire not rub when turning ?
This is what redneck dreams are made of.
This has the same practical effect as those bladed wheels on the roman chariots.
Well he is NOT a NASCAR fan he ain't making any left hand turns while loaded
That thing should turn left like crazy.
More of a lean or pull left like a bike. Less steering input to accomplish the left
Did anyone know if this is legal?
Depends on the state, For most the answer is yes. Its legal
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