Ruben Amorim
Ruben Amorim says Joshua Zirkzee substitution was 'tactical'. [Simon Stone]
Ruben Amorim looks ahead to second half of the season with ManUtd: "I am really confident we will be a strong team. We just need to recover all the players." On if anyone will be back for Leeds game: "I need to check. I am not going to risk anyone being out for a month." [Simon Stone]
Ruben Amorim "doesn't know" whether players will return to face Leeds. He added he doesn't want to take risks [Railston]
'Lack of connection'
Manchester United boss Ruben Amorim speaking to Sky Sports:
"We struggled in all the game. We had a lack of creation but we already knew it would be a different game to Newcastle. We had a different energy during the game. Looking at the 90 minutes we had our chances but the fluidity offensively wasn't there. There is a lack of connections at the moment.
"Completely different game to the last one. We had more men behind the ball, when you have that you have to work harder to create more, have imagination and play the game in a different way. We lacked that today.
"They tried. We didn't play well. When you don't play well with the ball you struggle without it. We need to recover and go to the next one."
On bringing Joshua Zirkzee off: "We were running around trying to get hold of the ball. We were struggling with their midfielders, and sometimes you can attack better with less strikers. We played with three strikers and sometimes that's not the best thing to attack well.
"This game is over, you can not change the result of this one but you can move on and go to the next one."
'Quality was not there'
Manchester United boss Ruben Amorim speaking to BBC MOTD: "Strange game. We knew it would be a different game to Newcastle. We needed more imagination today to create chances. We struggled in the first half trying to steal the ball. They put a lot of men in the midfield. We tried but the quality was not there. We need to recover to the next one."
Missing players? "Not using anything as an excuse. We tried to put two strikers in and then conceded from a set piece. Today was not our day."
On conceding just before the break: "We need to work on that because it's not the first time. The fluidity of the game was not there. We tried.
"We tried to overload one side but in Premier League you need one v one and you need that and we didn't have it today.
"We don't have the guys that play outside - we tried to overload the middle but today was not our day.
"Even against Everton it was three points lost, West Ham was two points lost. Always frustrating. Football is like that. If you focus on the performance, we struggled today."
Lisandro Martinez
'We have to win when we play at home'
Manchester United defender Lisandro Martinez speaking to Sky Sports: "Really disappointed. We can't come here at home and draw this game. We have to win when we play at home. The opponent has to suffer and we didn't get the three points. Very frustrating. The team gave everything. Just for a few moments, we conceded in the last moment of the first half, that can happen. We can deserve that, it's our responsibility.
"We played well with the ball in the first half but then we dropped too much, couldn't press their centre backs. They were comfortable with the ball and they started moving round and creating spaces. Wolves don't deserve the place they are, it's a strong team. We respect them. We have to take more risks.
"The lads are very disappointed, we expect better. We have to take it and accept it and go for the next one."
Rob Edwards
'A point the least we deserved'
Wolves boss Rob Edwards speaking to Sky Sports: "We had some good chances. At least we take something from the game, we've had a few good performances - especially away from home - and not got the results so it's progress. Nice to take a point, it's the least we deserved tonight.
"That was the challenge to come here to win. We had a good plan and we really believed. To go 1-0 down here is difficult but we kept fighting, we deserved the goal at the end of the first half I thought we were really good in the first half. Second half they probably had more of the possession. We almost gifted them one and they had the offside goal. We still had a chance in the second half so we could've taken more from the game but the performance level, the quality and desire was there from the players - that's why the fans were happy at the end."
On Ladislav Krejci goal: "We were pushing, we had good numbers. It [the goal] was well taken. We were pushing, great timing but nothing less than what we deserved. The chances were there but we showed good moments of control, took the ball. You can't come here and just defend so there was a lot to like about the performance. Lots to improve on but progress.
"We've had four away games against top teams, we've had good performances and should have taken more points than what we have. What we have to do now is perform like this at home, that's the challenge to the players. It's been more difficult for us to play there so that's our challenge."
Did anyone ask him why he moved Dorgu to the LW where he has been poor all season after a game on the RW when he had his best display?
And won player of the gameweek no less.
Not even left wing, but left wing back.
I credited Amorim with finally figuring out that making the game simple for young players increases their chances of playing well. Then he went right back to his nonsensical wing back system that asks them to do the job of two players each.
This is such an important point that alot of people miss with Dalot and Dorgu. They're doing the jobs of two people and are tasked with constantly covering the entire length of the pitch AND contributing both in attack and defense which is why both of them look so dreadful, something even Mazraoui struggles with despite being class at RB
This system is a real gift, ain’t it.
It also didn't make sense to me why when we played two defensive minded centre-midfielders we also played 3 CD's right behind them. We weren't playing away to Real Madrid ffs
To showcase his genius tactical acumen
Tbf you're better off understanding Quantum mechanics than any of Amorim's decisions so far at United 😂
As someone who had to do quantum mechanics at uni, you’re spot on. I was crap at it, still got a higher percentage score than Amorim has win percentage
Oof
he wanted a player who could run on the outside. Unlike Mount, Zirkzee won't be able to go out on the wing to create space for Dorgu to run inside from the right. That's probably also why he made Ugarte cover the rwb position while dalot bombed the outside. Didn't work anyways
He should definitely be asked but I imagine it's because Wolves would not give Dorgu the space that Newcastle did, so he would likely be ineffective out there as he's not exactly a player to play in tight spaces. We also have no one to occupy the left channel aside from him and maybe Shaw, but Shaw just doesn't have the legs, so we needed to provide width out there.
Who is playing CAM in that system? We lost Mount who was critical for that 4 2 3 1 to work
With the way we lined up it would be Zirkzee. Cunha could also drift in there from the left.
Later in the game Lacey or Obi could come in for JZ. Or Fletcher making a midfield 3. Or Bring Yoro on for a forward and play Licha in a midfield 3 while Yoro takes his place at the back.
We lacked creativity and threat, and Dorgu was poor at LWB. Simply having him at RW would improve both of those issues and a back 4 of Dalot, Licha, Heaven, and Shaw should be enough to defend against the world PL side of all time.
Because we had mount last game. The second half against newcastle was a disaster so he tried something different. He probably trusted zirkzee more than starting fletcher as the third midfielder.
He’d probably say he did it because the media said he shouldn’t. As we know, Reuben Amorim isn’t controlled by the media, so will actively hurt the team to prove he isn’t controlled by the media… fucking idiot (Reuben not you)
Exactly. Manager is clueless and needs to be sacked.
Probably knew shaw would drop dead if he had to play as lb again
The same Shaw who has played the most minutes this season with the highest distance covered?
Leeds will be absolutley fucking gunning for this team on Sunday. We better be ready. No more trying to be a smart arse and say and do contrasting things. Keep it fucking simple please.
Narrator - They weren't.
We will probably beat Burnley though given how Amorim has made a masterclass of spacing a win every 3-4 games to relieve the pressure.
Narrator - They didn’t
It will also be a tight slap to all those people that perpetually criticised bruno for no reason.
We better be working on a Bruno clone because we are absolute fucking shit without him
Leeds will probably beat us. Their fans hate United with rabid passion, and love to pretend we're their rivals. Elland Road will be a furnace, and our players will wilt.
Even Ralf Rangnick won there.
The Elland Road crowd is overrated and Leeds are not great, but if Wolves can get a point off Amorim, then I don't fancy our chances much at Leeds
Our players went to anfield and won so I don't think we have a spineless bunch
I’m from Leeds and alot of my partners family are Leeds United season ticket holders and can confirm the above.
The mentality of this team doesn’t stand a chance of playing well in that atmosphere nor do they even know what the fixture means.
Dreading it.
Can see us losing against Leeds. Will probably get downvoted for that because I’m not being super positive, but based on last night how can we be positive? It’s soul destroying
Man, I would be gunning for Leeds😆
Leeds will shit on us if Ruben continues with this bullshit. He's making ETH look like a genius.
"I am really confident we will be a strong team. We just need to recover all the players." would be a valid excuse against pretty much any other PL team. you dont need your full squad against wolves (who were also missing players)
He’s had a full squad for a lot of this season and we’ve still had the Grimsby, Everton, and West Ham results
The Forest and spurs results, too.
And Bournemouth.
The Fletcher sub was awful, lacey would have been a much better option
I have a feeling whichever kid was brought on people would be saying another one was a better option. None of them look close to ready for the senior team.
Tbf Lacey looked brighter in those 5 minutes or so than any other kid has
Suddenly all those times where he used to place 2 keepers and 4 defenders on the bench caught up with him when he needs players who aren't defenders.
I'm not sure Mantato sitting on the bench for a few more games would have made much of a difference to his current ability.
Just a thought, if Fletcher is one of the better academy players, I am not too confident of our academy
Sadly might be a bit of nepotism there
Yes and bring him on at 70th, 65th minute earliest. Zirkzee has not been good but you have to make the most of your senior players.
He didn't even bother switching to the 4231 to win the game. I don't know if he will ever become a PL top 4 level manager but this level is not for him right now to say the least
He did switch, just late.
He switched to a 4-4-2
Heat map showed him covering mostly center right like a right 10 does as per another commenter.
Maybe Gary was baffled and couldn't make sense like the most of us... sigh
He switched to a 4-4-2 just before Mantato came on. First Fletcher went right midfield and then into the centre when Ugarte came off, and then Mantato went right midfield.
Gary said that but I don’t think we did. Looked like a back 3 in possession but WBs weren’t as deep when defending. Shaw sprinted forward at times as well but I wouldn’t say he was playing LB. I think fucking mess is a more apt description
Very clearly had 3 / 5 in the back
All his subs are generally awful. I can't understand the guy. He got lucky against Newcastle cause the subs were suicidal.
Bendito could have been brought on at a much better time, probably when we are winning. Lacey played minutes, looked sharp, it was the obvious choice to go with. But Mr. Charisma knows better
I mean… when have we actually felt comfortable for a full 90 mins regardless of we are winning?
No individual makes or breaks this team at the moment. The problem is systemic.
"we had more men behind the ball".
No shit. That's what happens when you play a back 5 (yes 5, as it was with full/wing backs rather than wingers) and two dms.
5 defenders and 2 CDMs at home against a team that has scored 11 goals this season. For the love of god make it make sense. I feel like I'm going crazy reading people in here talking about "missing key players". The real question is why our manager is actively making decisions that don't align with the players available in a time when we have these injuries?
He can't get through his thick head for some reason.
And what the fuck is his obsession with substituting centrebacks when we need to win a match?
Needs to grow a pair and throw in an attacker for once
It's your fault for believing he will grow a pair and I'm not trying to be harsh. I'm just telling you how it is. He is a coward.
I have a conspiracy theory that he changed it against Newcastle because he thought he was gonna lose and then he could say "see guys we lost with 4 at the back it's not the system" and then when that didn't work he changed it back to this shit formation against the worst team I have seen in a long time to prove that his back 5 system works.
All I got is conspiracy theories at this point because none of this makes sense anymore. I have never ever in my life as a United fan seen something like this where the "best in class" football structure is suffering from sunk cost fallacy instead of doing their fucking jobs, and Amorim is being supported by a large portion of our fanbase in spite of having a worse league win rate than Gary Neville at Valencia.
When nothing makes sense you just start wondering what the hell is even going on at this football club.
🤣 This take is as good as any!
My conspiracy goes further, with Omar Berrada (ex City) and Ratcliffe (Chelsea season ticket holder) - not giving anything but a commercial/financial fuck about United.
No way any football geared board could support this mediocrity. Not at this level and with this crest. I'd sack them all
Agreed this is on Ineos, they don't have the balls to admit they got it wrong with Amorim. I would have sacked him after the Europe final, if Ange got sacked for winning why did we keep him? Are we a smaller club than spurs? what a joke
Stubbornness
Said from his first week he had a big problem getting numbers in the box. Last few games (I missed Newcastle) he seemed to be flooding the box and we look dangerous. Yet again, drawing at home vs one of the worst PL teams in history and we’ve got five defenders and two midfielders sitting in with two/three guys in the box at most. Chelsea have shit players but score by just getting six bums into the box. Even Neto scores a couple from it.
you’re right, it’a massive flaw of ours
i can’t think of a single tactical issue that Amorim has resolved in 14 months so we could be waiting a while for him to fix it
Knew it would be a different game because you changed the formation back to the one that brought us nothing but loss and embarrassment.
Taking off Zirkzee (who I genuinely think is awful FWIW but still) for Jack Fletcher who’s both extremely inexperienced and not particularly good is an all time horrific substitution, fair play
Having Fletcher and Ugarte on the same pitch is like playing with 9 men on the ball, neither is capable of passing forward or taking the ball under pressure
Genuinely can't think of anything as bad. Instead of thinking "I'm playing this mediocre player out of position and he's not giving us enough (despite scoring lucky goal)"
He swaps in an out of his depth youth player into the same setup. It's incredible. He's constantly keeping us guessing at least.
And even funnier given Zirkzee scored (albeit deflected)
What the hell was he expecting Jack Fletcher to provide?
I get putting another midfielder in and hoping to change tactically but everytime fletch was on the ball he was also basically on the right touchline 😭😭
Zirkzee also gifted Wolves the equaliser
I have no issue with Zirkzee coming off. Useless player with no work rate.
The problem is Fletcher has shown nothing so far, and I'd rather have seen Lacey given those minutes with a formation tweak.
Its so frustrating as top 4 is there for the taking with so kany teams under-performing.
I'm not sure this isnthe right guy for the job at hand.....feels like we have got him about 5 to 7 years too soon in his managerial career.
Unfortunately we're also one of those teams underperforming and it'll be this way all season. Gonna be a long ride of us and other teams taking it in turns to drop easy points.
Sadly, the reality is that we are in a "rebuild", so it makes more sense that we're also one of those clubs that are dropping points when we shouldn't be.
I also wish that we are capitalising on other teams dropping points and winning all our games (especially games that we can and shoukd win like Wolves). But if we were doing so, our season would be similar to Villa and they were being considered as "title challengers". I don't think anyone realistically expected us to be challenging for the title at the start of the season.
Let’s be real. Amorim is never getting a top managerial job once United sack him.
Win, loss, or draw. My tune hasn't changed. Amorim is not fit for this job. He's a stubborn egomaniac, and we should be cutting our losses rather than handing him another transfer window to fine tune his 3-4-3 suicide football.
100% agree. We should've cut our losses after Grimsby
He's going to ruin our winning at home HT record. I just know it. Never ever wanted a manager gone so fast. Always until the dire end but this guy.. EL final for me NGL. Spineless coward.
How about we abandon 343 once and for all? Clearly our defensive record has been horrendous irrespective of what combinations of CBs we use in this setup.
Only conte ever won a pl with wingbacks, that too because he had to tactically adjust to refit his existent squad. We not only want to deliberately play in this formation, we also lack the players.
Wingbacks expected to do everything and that's just not possible.
Or at least till we have good attacking wing backs.
He complains about creativity but having 7 defensive players that can’t come up with much in attack or with the ball is a bit pointless.
Ruben: Blasphemy!!!!
Conte had Prime Matic and Kante in midfield, he could have won the league in a 353 with my nan at CB with those two on the pitch
I don't remember a single game where Amorim made a positive tactical shift that won us a game.
The closest we come is he surprises the opposing coach for the first 15-30 mins of a game, and then the coach adapts and its crickets from Amorim.
Not good enough, I saw this exact game too many times in the past year, even without injuries/AFCON.
How many points have we dropped from being ahead now this season something like 8-9 it’s ridiculous. We can be a good team we just are coached and managed like shit
This!!
At least 12
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Was this Grimsby tactics board?
If you said to the 12 yrs old me that United can't win 2 games in a row, I would've called you crazy. What a downfall..
*Amorim can't win 2 games in a row
It's been a year and he still subs on defenders against teams playing a low block. That's criminal.
Lack of coaching and tactical awareness
'Quality was not there' sums up our season really
This guy is learning on the job, and he's not doing very well.
“I’m finally understanding that to play my system we need to spend a lot of money which we can’t so I have to change”
Amorim in the pre game press conference before Newcastle game, quote is not word for word but you get my point, if he’s come to this conclusion then why go back to 5 at the back.
He's stubborn af and is more interested in proving a point than making the necessary changes now. Should have been fired yesterday. We're going nowhere with him
This man never admits it's his fault
Why is Shay Lacey not being used? The only youngster who looked kinda assured when played was Lacey and that too at Villa. This manager stopped giving him minutes altogether.
Why is Dorgu being used as a LWB when we are chasing a goal. We have seen how ineffective he is. Amorim could have switched him to the right with Dalot.
This manager's obsession with 3-man defennse will end him, and I will be happy about it.
I was so confused why that 17 year old kid came on instead of Lacey, who had already got some minutes under his belt. That kid was also clearly not at all ready for this level whereas Lacey at least showed signs of promise against Villa to warrant a chance in front of the home fans.
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For the reason as to how utterly ineffective Fletcher and Mantato was when they came on.
With you on the rest though. Just not this glorification of average talents just because they are from the academy and in the past we have produced better academy talents that earned game time.
Well that confirms zirkzee is gone, imagine admitting that sub was tactical?
Christ how do we keep getting a worse manager than the last…
Same way the squads quality continues to get worse.
You can't say 'today was not our day' against one of the worst teams this league has ever seen.
Absolutely sackable comments.
Amorim genuinely seems like one of the worst managers I've ever seen here. Horrible HORRIBLE subs, throws players he doesn't rate under the bus PUBLICLY (driving their transfer price way down), blind attachment to his 'system' that has never been proven to work at this level, plays a system that doesn't fit the squad and refuses to adapt... and on and on. And it's NEVER his fault.
But don't worry. He'll smile at the presser, his fans will say 'he's so honest, he just needs another few years and 500mil in transfers! Those other managers that come in and use actual tactics to get immediate results? Well, that's fine. But they don't have Amorim's AWESOME SMILE!!!"
I genuinely cannot understand how he's still the manager and how people can still back him. He completely wasted more than half our season last year and what has he got to show for it? Still struggling, still showing so much weakness.
What more do you need to see that this manager hasn't got a clue how to improve us?? He can't even win games back to back. Any good performances and results are outliers with shit like today being the norm for us
If you think of all the things he's said and done, and his record, it's honestly bizarre anyone is behind him. He's awful, clearly a massive problem at the club, why is he still there and why are fans not more angry at him? The poor standards comes from the fans as much as anyone these days. Even when he nearly throws the match at Newcastle with his incompetence it's called progress because we somehow won...
I struggle to see how ETH is worse than Amorim, he had bad signings sure, but he didn’t actively sabotage the team with his formation.
ETH was a lot better than Amorim (though far from good enough). At the very least he had a win rate of above 50% while Amorim has an identical win rate to Gerrard at Villa (32.6% vs 32.4%). I genuinely don't think people quite comprehend how awful we are because of the odd quality of the rest of the league this season.
That's your job brudda, you've been here a year, fix it or fuck off
“I don’t think the manager gets the club, full stop. I just don’t think he’s the right man.
“Man United is about risk and entertainment, more than anything. Having fans on the edge of their seat f***ing ready to go.
And the abuse Scholes faced from so- called fans on here.
And will do again. A lot of these fans can not have any lasting loyalty to the club, if they're so willing to attack our greatest players because they dare criticise the worst manager we've ever had.
they were talking about him being negative is making the situation worse lmao
I get the point but what's not risky about bringing on two completely inexperienced youth players who are out of their depth?
It doesn’t fit his narrative so he’ll come up with some dross to argue against it which he did lol
Because those were out of desperation and even then they just slotted in to a risk-averse system and had little to no impact.
Zirkzee wasn’t even injured? This manager….
He wanted to keep his form from the Newcastle match. Worst subs of any manager
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Quite a lot of people at the club. Starting with Jim Ratcliffe
And online too apparently. Seems like the old Trafford crowd is growing tired though
The half-time boos were pretty tame tbf, but after the match, it was definitely a lot louder as the players were walking the perimeter.
Same guy who ran after Ashworth for a year only to kick him a few months later because they didn't agree
Because Ashworth told him that this guy, Amorim, was not it and would be a disaster. Ashworth continues to be right but Ineos continue to allow him to destroy the standards of the club. Why is he still here? Averaging 1 win a month and less wins than losses this calendar year.
Ashworth also had reservations were around bringing in a new coach mid season, which is fair.
Although I think Graham Potter and Thomas Frank were Ashworth’s preferred options…
Ashworth wanted Howe, Frank or Marco Silva. Potter was suggested as an interim candidate only.
Reports at the time stated that Sir Jim thought Ashworth’s options were not ambitious enough. So he lost the power struggle against Berrada and Wilcox. They went with a continental manager, who only plays one formation and is so stubborn to a fault that a refuses to change that formation no matter the game state, the opposition, his players strengths and weaknesses, the academy talent we have etc. Ashworth in the end has been proven right and should have a big I told you so sign and fly it over old trafford.
I don't think he's even fooling Ratcliffe, just that Ratcliffe's ego and credibility are completely tied up with Amorim succeeding.
As someone said, the longer you spend on the wrong train, the longer is your ride back home.
It is in Ratcliffe's interests to sack Amorim before he kills another season but looking at how he runs Nice, that would be expecting too much.
Half this sub
Half this sub after each press conference
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"the youth are not good enough"
So we can't even get by with one or two youth players to beat wolves at home?
Lvg was getting results playing blackett, mcnair, rashford, varela, fosu mensah etc.
Has anyone asked him why he makes so many CB subs? How exactly are they expected to make much of a difference?
Every game without fail he has to take a defender off for another
You should not know this beforehand. You and your players should be 100% convinced that either it’s gonna be the same as the first half against Newcastle where we play them off the pitch, or it’s going to be the same as the second half where we fight together to preserve a lead. This was a different game because you made it so with your inexplicable back-5 against the worst side in PL history. That is absolutely inexcusable!
The manager took off Zirkzee who scored because he thought we would attack better with J. fletcher at RW? Do I have that right ?
Doesn’t sound like a man stressing about his job, that’s very disappointing.
He is here until the summer at least.
He has Berrada's nudes
He's unfortunately not under any immediate pressure. We win "enough" to keep the pressure really building, that Newcastle win buys him more time for us to probably beat Burnley in a couple of weeks, and then the cycle repeats.
I can't see him being sacked until the summer at the earliest. INEOS are very invested in him as their first pick as manager.
He probably stays until we can’t qualify for the Europa league any more. The leagues shite this year so it could drag on.
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He's gonna stay at this job forever because of the incompetence of INEOS and the fans that support him because Amorim's got a knack to win at the right time.
Never good enough to win us title but never bad enough to get sacked, suck in mediocrity forever.
He doesn't even win at the right time. I've never seen a manager survive despite not winning so many "must win" games.
He is bad enough to be sacked, his record is terrible for a United manager. Problem is everyone seems to think it's ok because despite terrible football we're still limping along in the European places due to a poor performance by a lot of our rivals this season
Suffer.com
As usual he's mentioning issues with personnel and players rather than his own setup and choices.
Why did we start with a 3 at the back when we played best in a 4231 last game? It can't have been due to missing Mount?
Why did Dorgu play LWB after having his best performance last week as a RW?
Why was Ugarte at times tucking to be a RB so that Dalot could push up into final third areas?
Why was Fletcher brought on as a right sided player?
Why did we play a 442 in the 2nd half with Dorgu as a LM and Mantanto (who I believe is a natural leftback) as a RM? Isn't that the areas Shea Lacey usually operates in?
Why take off Heaven, who was playing great, for Yoro when he could have punted on Chido or just kept it as it was?
Bro is jerking us at this point 😂
“We had more men behind the ball, when you have that you have to work harder to create more, have imagination and play the game in a different way. We lacked that today.”
That’s down to you Amorim… you chose to play that way
Mount was a huge loss. Created feck all clear chances. Prob be same next game if we don’t get some attacking players back.
Enough is enough.
Struggled to create chances because you had 9 defensive players on the pitch and then when you needed a goal you subbed on another defender. Get him out.
Nah sorry. He's done. Instead of changing his actual tactics he kept his tactical setup 1:1 and subbed out our goal scorer (I know he had a huge deflection) for an 18year old who wasn't ready for this type of game in the same exact uncomfortable position.
A shocking manager. Even if he goes and plays a 4-2-3-1 we know he doesn't have the brain to adjust the tactics of his own volition. It's over.
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Substituting defenders on against wolves when we need a goal is definitely a choice
Who would you have brought on?
Maybe leave on the guy who scored a goal in the first half who would have had a boost in confidence. If you can't play Zirkzee against the worst team in the league right after he scores a goal you might as well sell him immediately. And there had better be better players replacing him other than the kids we saw
I could tell by 15 minutes this would be a very poor performance you can just see it with this team some games the players just don’t have it
When will we ever get a competent manager.
Every week it's the same words used just in different patterns and sentences. Fuck sake.
Shamelessly saying when we have Maino we’ll be better in the same press conference, the man’s a joke
Tactical. To bring off the guy who scored our only goal was tactical? Get him out. Seriously.
Zirkzee is ass. Just because he scored a lucky deflection doesnt mean he is a good player.
Now our bench was ass as well unfortunately
Yeah zirzkee is ass (in this system) I completely agree. But he still has the ability to be in the box and disrupt and do a bit of something. If he was going to bring fletcher on it needed to be for a defender not for an attacker.
That Zirkzee change should tell you all you need to know about this guy. Worst manager we’ve ever had.
Sack him!
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On players returning: "I'm not going to risk anyone being out for a month"
You're going to have to Amorim because we're not picking up any points with that team.
every press conference from this guy is about points we SHOULD have won, goals we SHOULD have scored, things we SHOULD have done. we don't do it, we don't score, we don't get points. aren't you all tired of it?
I hope this isn’t a Maresca situation where he tries to play the trash football that got him sacked at West Ham and Parma until the pressure mounts and then goes to caretaker cocaineball to buy a few wins and reverts back to his braindead football that gets smashed. I don’t want Amorim thinking okay, pressures on again, let’s play caretaker 4231, get a result then try my bullshit again.
On to the next one FC. You just have to laugh
Yes we’re all armchair pundits and yes we would all do better than Amorim
I think most people's view is that a competent football manager, perhaps with some experience and qualifications, would do better than this failed experiment.
Amorim at United is the answer to the question "What would have happened if De Boer stayed at Palace?"
I miss Ole and I can't believe I'm saying that
It’s surely time to go for Amorim now. How can he keep putting us through this and expect us to back him. You could see this result coming from the very first minute and he was not able to change it one bit
I think everyone needs to calm down, its pretty shit but its still not as bad as it could possibly be with all our players out
There was literally no one on the bench today and around 7 defensive players, lets take it as a point and move on to the next one
Brings on 2 or 3 defenders every game so would hardly matter
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Yep, was always going to happen with so many creative players out against a side that's been improving ever since we've faced them last time out. Having to rely on Dalot and Dorgu to create chances, and Ugarte and Casemiro to find Cunha or Sesko in space is just bad news. Hopefully Mount and/or Kobbie are back for Leeds, but otherwise I fear the worst.
I think the problem is that he could be overthinking things as well tbh. Talking about over loading the middle etc etc when this is arguably the one team/game where your whole focus should be about your own team and not worrying about stiffling/stopping an oponent that look like they'd win the lotto before they win another game. Keep it bloody simple and try to kill the game early and their low confidence would have taken care of the rest.
I don't get it. Let's play ball and win.
Ojay so thst was a tactical sub not injury yeshhhh sack him
Where was Lacey man
When Bruno leaves expect more games like this.
When we beat Leeds next week. The tune of this thread will change once again.
The same lineup but 4-3-3 looks a bazillion times better.
Zirkzee in the 10, Dorgu RW, Cunha and Sesko the other attackers.
Someone make it make sense
Thats a very long way of saying "I havn't got a clue"
One step forward, two steps back, yet again.
The genius that is Ruben Amorim is now caught in a dilemma for Leeds game and beyond. Will he switch to some different formation/tactic (incl playing Dorgu on the right), or will he stubbornly double down again?
So dumb, he could have tried something new in the Wolves game and point to all kind of excuses, like lack of players or injuries blah blah if that something new doesn’t work. By doing his same old shit without all his key players, he’s just inviting all the pressure and critique on himself.
His tactics and system suck.
And his excuses are lame.
The end.