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Correct, this shit is the recruiter’s problem since the client demands someone that is employed and doesn’t usually need a job that bad. The ideal candidate would tell a recruiter to piss off with all their hoops to jump through.
The recruiter either has to do some work making the application process easy for the candidate or seek lower level candidates who are excited enough about the job that they’ll endure the company’s shitty hiring process
I don’t agree with that. Wanting people desperate isn’t a hiring standard, it’s a red flag. Needing a job doesn’t mean someone should be treated like garbage or accept anything thrown at them. Desperation shouldn’t be a requirement for employment.
They aren’t arguing that it is a hiring standard, just stating that many hiring managers like desperate applicants because they can take advantage of their desperation.
As a recruiter he wants clients desperate and willing to take anything thrown at them, because it serves his numbers. He doesn’t want clients that can afford to be chooses and have self respect by not being underpaid or working for free during an “interview”
Yeah, I agree. Individual attitudes are bad, but the bigger issue is the system itself. It rewards predatory behavior and punishes people for having boundaries. When desperation becomes a feature of hiring instead of a red flag, something is seriously broken.
It's the hiring standard these days because desperate people are more likely to to accept shit pay or hours.
I'm not even in a high position and I've turned down jobs just because they wanted to have the interview on Saturday, always with th answer "I don't work on weekends"
Of course he does, he gets his payout if they stay in the job he fills with them. Desperate people means he gets paid. People that leave because the job sucks means he doesn’t.
This, it really depends on how desperate u are. The more desperate u are the more u do. If u already have a good job u wont do any of those.
I personally avoid video interviews with ai or even preset questions. And I also avoid those personalities test and application I have to do manually.
I used to do them, but there time consuming and iv never gotten an response.
I think that’s why I hate LinkedIn recruiters the most. They want people desperate (for them) begging (to them) and grateful (to them). So yeah I agree it’s an issue with narcissists.
The numbers might be anecdotal but this point is very accurate. If you have a skillset in demand and you can be picky. If you also have a job already you can be very picky. I havent submitted a resume after I got my entry level job. HR folks usually reach out to me and ask if Id consider interviewing.
Oh most definitely anecdotal, and will be very subjective. If you work in an in demand field then the peers you see walking in and out of jobs will most definitely lean towards the former group.
That being said, a good portion of the recruiters who recruit for these in demand roles are competent enough to recognise that and tender their clients expectations accordingly.
I find the specialised recruiters are generally the best for both employers and candidates. Personally I don't even add/accept them on LinkedIn unless I see they specialise in my field, there's not generally a point otherwise. "Bucket Hat Recruiter" as their headline wouldn't fill me with much confidence at all, unless I worked in some bucket hat adjacent industry. 😅
I literally won’t pick up a welder for less than $35 an hour and literally laughed in the face of a guy at a factory who said “we can only do $25”. They just went without for 3 weeks and when they called me back I charged $50 an hour just to be a shit head about it. Those of us who CAN be picky SHOULD be picky just to remind them they aren’t untouchable. Plus rich fucks don’t get enough bad news, I like to be that bad news for them.
For months now, I’ve had recruiters contacting me about a job with city government. It’s a contract and they want to pay 39 an hour. That doesn’t give me the 40x rent I need to make to afford my rent-stabilized 1BR apartment.. And even if I were to get a second job, I don’t think I could charge what I’m usually charging as a consultant. And if I could stack jobs like that, I wouldn’t need a job. I know that whether or not I can pay my rent on what they pay me is my problem and not theirs, but I’m not gonna take a job that doesn’t pay my rent. I live in a VHCOL area, but that's besides the point.
I think we make up way more than 70% - maybe I’m being optimistic, but I think most people know where they stand and those of us who have such strong standards do so because it’s reasonable.
I wouldn’t phrase any of it like a douche the way this r/LinkedinLunatic does, but most of the things he’s describing are boundaries that I have, and it’s not like it’s any skin off my back to have one fewer insane recruiter contacting me. I’m already overemployed and I have plenty of normal recruiters reaching out to me.
Interesting opinion. I think it’s much easier to have an attitude than in-demand hard skills, so I’d probably skew the proportions in the other direction.
I dont actively look for jobs but get offered them and its always for so much less than I am worth. Im sure this recruiter gets doozies but in todays market a lot of skills are hard to find and anyone can break out on their own since most things are online... at least my skill set.
I get a list of skills they want and then I ask what's the salary and benefits and its almost always around half of what I make using those skills as a one man entrepreneur or even freelancing on my time working from home in my pajamas.
Even CMO jobs pay less in job offers than anyone who's actually competent at their job can make in their sleep as a digital nomad using the same skills. So I'm not really sure who's Landing these jobs because I doubt they're qualified.
I work in digital marketing, leads, ads etc. So maybe my industry is unique this way. But its going to hit the $trillion mark in 2026 so..... its a big industry.
I don’t believe you, at all. You 1000% don’t know a single person like this. This man wants someone to interview at the rite aid he manages, while riding a unicycle and expects them to cure cancer during the interview process.
Generally his advice you see here is tailored to those unwilling to adapt after 6 months unemployment. Blaming the market, and just hoping it turns back for them with no adaptation to the new age of job seeking.
It's not all wrong but there are a few kernels in here that are upsetting and I'm even more upset that other people aren't pointing them out in the comments.
"I'll explain the employment gap in the interview" - As opposed to?
Characterizing principles as narcissism - nuff said
"Suck it up and do unpaid labor for an interview" combined with "there are two levers and you can't control the job market" is essentially the same logic as telling a slave to keep working and not revolt because they can't change the system. People have gone to war over wage theft and they were right for doing so.
Yeah, that’s exactly where it goes off the rails for me too. Some of the points aren’t totally wrong, but the framing is ugly.
“Explain the employment gap in the interview” is such a nothing statement. Of course you do. What else are people supposed to do, write a confession letter?
Calling basic boundaries “narcissism” is wild. Having principles isn’t ego, it’s self-respect.
And the unpaid labor part is the worst. Telling people to just accept it because “you can’t control the market” is basically normalizing exploitation. History is full of people pushing back against that exact logic, and they were right to. Just because a system exists doesn’t mean it deserves compliance.
Leave the hirer wondering about what? Any relatively intelligent hiring manager can guess that this gap is because the person can’t find a work. Granted you can say a white lie like I was volunteering and whatnot but I don’t see how this adds any value as opposed to the alternative. My CV is my work experience related to the job I’m applying for, it’s also missing around 14 years of being a waiter since I was 14.
People push for a tailored resume to fit the role perfectly and at the same time they suggest you should cover any breathing moment because we don’t want the hiring manager thinking that since you haven’t cycled in a while you’ve forgotten how to cycle.
Isn't that counter to customizing your resume? If you customize a resume and leave off roles that are not relevant, you create gaps. This comes down to whether you view a resume as a transcript or a marketing tool. For some people, you cannot have both at the same time.
And note that I am not a job hopper. Same employer for almost 30 years before I moved on. But I had a series of positions within that same employer. Depending upon the position I am applying for, some of the older positions might be more relevant.
And of course, all bullets should be in STAR or ARI format.
Yes, that's it. By capitalizing "THE interview," he's sarcastically pointing out that the people he's deriding expect to receive an interview at all. In his view, they are entitled to think they'll get an interview; he clearly means for them to explain their resume gap in their resume or cover letter, before they ever get to the interview part.
I think he could also be acting like the word "the" means the candidate expects only one interview when he knows he's going to put them through like 10 over a period of a year before making up his stupid little mind, and is making fun of that without realizing he's the idiot
Have you ever written a resume? Where exactly would you explain an employment gap in a resume? Resumes list job experience and relevant qualifications, they aren't letters. The format literally doesn't allow for "explanations"
Not only that, but imagine I have 20 years of experience. I wouldn't even want to work for the bored, ignorant hiring manager who's out here doing the math and saying, "Oh man, they had a gap of four months back in 2011. I'm definitely not calling them for an interview since they didn't explain it. That's too suspicious."
But then it conflicts with the idea of a tailored resume.
Screening call/interview is really the best place to talk about gaps as otherwise a resume can have multiple pages added they don't want to skim. Some work can also be an issue to write down due to security or NDA that can be more openly discussed in certain formats.
Yeah I don't understand the career gap part. To me it is only a red flag if you have a resume full of jobs that you only stayed at for like a year and had long gaps between them so you better have a good explanation for that.
Your résumé's "experience" section should include a hyperlink that redirects to an Apology Video where you apologize for your unemployment, replete with crying and tissues. /s
-if you have the right skill set and know where you fit in, companies will want to hire you.
-“I know my value.” If you’re right, you’re right. If you’re not, you will find out.
-“LinkedIn is so lame.” Yes, yes it is. And so is this wannabe influencer.
Focus your career on building valuable skills and knowledge, on doing something that you find value in and is valuable enough to others that they’ll pay for it. Then you’ll have to tolerate less and less bullshit as time goes on.
I have countless Workday accounts for the companies that use it, I’m on LinkedIn every day, I literally have a folder on my laptop dedicated to all the cover letters I’ve written, I’ve done projects while interviewers watched me…
That’s the reality right now. If you don’t bend a bit and swallow some of your self-respect, you’re likely stuck without a job for a long time. It shouldn’t be this way, but it is
Cause I know how much money I am valued and I know much much money I need to make my bills, so one of those two numbers is what I’m expecting to receive, and they aren’t far from each other.
And I’ve worked off desperation before when I had to breast pump at work cause we couldn’t afford formula and because it was the one thing I wanted to be able to do as a mom, and I was still working while breast pumping, and I wasn’t given an “area”, I was told I could use the office or break room, both of which have cameras, both of which do not have a door. I worked with high schoolers(literal minors) and I accidentally flashed them so many times that we had to set up a system between me and them where I would yell out to the rest of the restaurant staff that I was pumping and they would stay out of the break room for 20 mins. My bosses only ever complained that I had to walk away from the front of the store and made jokes about me being a cow. And my bosses were almost all women.
I will take on a lot of shit, if this is not the treatment I get. And this is everywhere in entry level positions, especially in restaurants. This is why Gen Z doesn’t care anymore, Gen X bosses have basically beat us out of caring about our job, cause they want us to forget to care about ourselves. I’m surprised that millennials don’t feel the same about boomers, and if they do, they hide it way better.
Explaining your "career (there is no such thing anymore) gap" to someone who literally has no business over what you show them on paper, is conceding self-respect (unless it's the CIA or educational institutions). Taking less money than you're worth? it is conceding self-respect. I could go on and on... There is some kind of askeism that looks like a feeding frenzy when people cater to all their unreasonable demands. It's funny because we live in a world were self-respect is called narcissism. Literally gaslighting.
Filling out the application isnt the loss of self respect its behaving differently during the interview or during the job itself, kissing ass left and right to please corporate standards and managers that are probably under qualified, overpaid, with lots of tenure
No, I don't think it's good advice just because one in a million people said it, LOL. But I do get this point, he's dealing with polite, respectful people all of the time and he probably got bored. He probably met someone who didn't give a fuck, and it made his job fun for five minutes, because his boring routine got broke. That's all
The "self respect" thing is such a crazy hill to die on. I couldn't imagine being without employment and income and making some weak protest about a minor inconvenience.
Not innately true; you just need to be picky. I was hired for my current job despite being underqualified because I didn’t “sell” myself outright. I conceded my weaknesses but then used my interview as an opportunity to interview my employer back and ask how they would support my success. It was mostly wariness because the legal field is innately toxic unfortunately, so I was trying to personally screen out toxicity for my mental health, but I had the privilege of being picky. My boss liked my slight push back because you don’t need yes men around you when your success depends on others being able to see opposing angles.
There's a difference between work and conceding self-respect (putting effort in the actual application)
And straight up exploitation
Last few 'interviews' gave me days long tasks. Didnt hire me. Then a few months later you see the entire thing you made being used by them and you cant do shit cause it was done on their pcs in their buildings.
Not to mention the hundreds of fake (or too picky recruiters) ones that give no interviews even tho you're qualified then keep reposting the same job 3 times in a row lol
I don't do more than 2 interviews per process (1x general with HR and one Technical)
I don't fill stupid ass forms - god damn waste of time
I don't negotiate too much on salary - I have a number - you meet it or you don't - If you dont then you better be a company that can provide me with cruciall experience that my resume is missing - otherwise look for other candidates
I don't do cover letters - they are ridiculous
I follow those rules without exception and so far missed maybe one or two opportunities (required filling stupid ass forms and cover letters)
I work in a tech division these days, but non tech executive. We do not pay well comparatively, our drawn is amazing benefits (pension) and experience you truly cannot get outside our four walls based on the work we do and for whom.
Got a teams message from a recruiter and one of our tech managers asking me to be part of an interview group for their 7th round of interviews.
I asked 7th? As in 7 groups or 7th time we've interviews this person?
They said 7th for this person this one is for fit and networking with people outside of their environment.
My legit response, because I know these people well and I decided to spend a little political capital, was "you know we should just fuck right the hell off, no one is worth this or deserves this. Just make a damn decision."
I got back a snarky "so you are a no?"
This led to a workgroup within the division to revamp how we do interviews. We got it down to 2 interviews and a third only if it requires senior leadership. Instead of 20 positions for the same job title open we do and all manager agree to group or panel interviews.
Yeah 7 rounds just shows lack of decision making and incompetent interviewing skills and questioning. Also they don't know how to read people well enough, etc.
What a waste of time and money for everyone involved.
Oh it was HR and a group of tactical tech managers who were promoted from within and are not people managers they are tactical task masters ideas for a well rounded interview process. Most people managers can make a decision in an interview. But their process was:
initial HR phone screen
initial hiring manager phone screen
hiring manager in person interview
team lead and technical team interview
department executive and business line manager interview
fit and networking environment interview (outside division managers and staff)
Divisional executive interview
Hiring manager, technical rep, department executive, and senior executive final interview
If I recall, this was a 3 years ago when we changed it, the metrics were from application to offer was somewhere between 4-6 months. Our interview attrition rate was in the low 70% range. Meaning 70% of people who entered the interview process voluntarily exited. This was for run of the mill engineer, architect, etc., Type positions. We aren't talking like Executive VP.
Same here, honestly. I’ve got my own hard lines too and I stick to them. If a process is bloated with assignments, endless interviews, forms, and fluff, that already tells me how they operate internally. I’d rather miss a couple of opportunities than burn time and self-respect jumping through pointless hoops. So far, not much regret.
I fall into the workday part lol. I am never using it again, it has never worked for me in the past and the fact that I have to type in stuff that's already in my resume is just too much for a site that has never worked once for me.
I'm considering deleting LinkedIn (been there for a week and a couple) for the excessive amount of cringe and narcissistic behaviour on there.
Same honestly. Workday is a special kind of pain. Typing your entire resume again into a system that’s never helped you land a job just feels insulting.
And LinkedIn… I get the urge to delete it. A week on there is enough to see how performative and self-obsessed it can be. If it’s not helping you and it’s just draining your energy, stepping away isn’t some career sin. Sometimes protecting your sanity is the smarter move.
It’s BS and he is trying to apply pressure to the weak to sell themselves short
Anyone who calls you a ‘narcissist’ within seconds of meeting (or even before it) often displays narcissistic traits themselves. I recently had one recruiter ring me up and snigger at the place where I live, then proceed to try to get me to hand over information ‘which you will do… unless you’re a narc’.
Manipulators will try to get their teeth into weak or insecure personalities if they can
Yeah, that’s exactly what it is. It’s pressure tactics, plain and simple. Push people when they’re already vulnerable and hope they sell themselves short.
And you’re right about the “narcissist” label. Anyone throwing that word around that fast is usually projecting. That recruiter story says it all. Mocking where you live and then trying to intimidate you into compliance is textbook manipulation.
These people don’t want confident candidates with boundaries. They want insecure ones who won’t push back. That’s not a hiring strategy, it’s a control issue.
And just to demonstrate my point, the job that she was offering was sketchy about the pay rate too (a £25,000 pay range, so highly unusual) and would have required relocation. I then found a job paying £30,000 more than the top end of the salary range for that job. My skills are rather specific and I know that they are in demand, even if I too was struggling during the economic turmoil that we are going through.
Basically: don’t sell you short just because some recruiter who DOESN’T KNOW YOU tries to play on your insecurities
The whole thing reads like rage bait. Say something inflammatory, blame candidates, get engagement. Easier than admitting the hiring process itself is broken.
This "recruiter" is enmeshed in a broken and abusive system. If he actually cared about job seekers, he'd work to change the system and elevate candidates more effectively. Instead, he wastes everyone's time.
Also, "bucket hat recruiter" isn't a title or qualification. It only tells me he has no real qualifications to be condescending toward anyone.
Wow…. This dude is so full of shit he trickles. Dude first rule of job seeking is you don’t pay to get a job. If I’m required to do unpaid labor as part of your screening process, I am paying you with my time and effort and getting nothing for it, not even a guarantee of going to the next round. So I’m not just paying for the job, I’m gambling for it. And it needs to be said:
IF YOU MAKE UNPAID PROJECT COMPLETION A MANDATORY PART OF YOUR SCREENING PROCESS, THERE IS NOTHING TO STOP YOU FROM NEVER HIRING ANYONE AND JUST CROWDSOURCING ALL OF YOUR WORK WITHOUT EVER HAVING TO PAY A SOUL A DIME. DON’T THINK WE DON’T SEE THIS. DISTRIBUTED SLAVE LABOR IS STILL SLAVE LABOR!!!
If someone had enough money to take a few months or a year off, why is that their business? What if someone had a serious illness? Or became a care giver?
Other than the chance someone was in prison. I don't get it.
I am so close to deleting deactivating my linkedin account.
This has become a bloviating website for people who wouldnt be successful as a social media influencer or OnlyFans model who want to pretend they are.
Totally toxic and these recruiters think they are financially successful.
Um ok.... The way I look at it.... If you can delete your LinkedIn profile, it means you reach a point that you have enough fuck you money and just dont give a shit anymore..
This person is deeply insecure and on a power trip, enabled by a recruiting culture that’s grown comfortable exploiting job seekers who don’t have leverage.
Considering that once they removed Lead from a lot of common products, they saw a drastic reduction in violent crime, I wonder what is in their environment to cause them to be like this? That is the polite thing to think. Them being a genuine victim of pollution is not their fault.
The unpolite thing? This dude would be selling his wife's body to be able to afford whips to whip his slaves, and her.
which TBH was not that great either. The "great job market" narrative was a lie. Last really great job market I remember was the 2000s. You would NOT spam apply (well, fax in resumes) because you know most would turn into interviews. Basic excel/word was a wow factor. Loads of completely average people I knew suddenly made enough to buy houses in their 20s. etc. The 2022 job market was like "if you know two coding programs and have 5 years + experience, it will now only take you a few months to get a new job."
You have to be really young/only worked post GFC to think that was a booming market.
- not aimed at you in particular, I hated the media narrative around it. I got a few interviews at that time, but they still had ridiculous expectations. The only thing that changes was that companies that had hiring freezes unfroze them for a year. That does not a booming economy or job market make
Fuck people who live for their lame corporate job and spend time reading LinkedIn
As someone who does creative work, I've been asked to "complete a small task" hundreds of times, for each interview process basically
Out of the 100s of places I applied to, there was a handful that actually paid in full those days as work, and a handful that would simply accept my portfolio and not task me
So over the course of a job hunt, I'd be expected to complete like 50-100-200 "small tasks", basically work full-time for free
I can't even afford that time, you fucking idiots, I'm busy doing side jobs to stay afloat while I wait to see if I've been selected out of the 10s of thousands of other applicants
I mean there’s boundaries I still don’t cross. Not because I’m narcissistic but because, well, they’re boundaries. I refuse spyware technical assessments, for instance. Some of this examples are fine but others I’d want him to experience a year of job loss as karma to humble him a bit.
Also his company uses Workday and that’s unforgivable.
He’s kinda right which proves the only salvation for us as a species is a robust labor movement devoted to protecting the common person from the horrors of unfettered capitalism.
Confused about the career gaps explanation thing. I’m assuming Richard wants that to be in a cover letter, but it’s good to reiterate during an interview, as there’s no guarantee your interviewer has laid eyes on your cover letter.
Someone like bucket hat guy doesn't have top quality candidates on their roster - they don't have to put up with him. His entire spiel only exists to attract low quality employers who just luvvvv linkdin.
Recruiters seem to love to forget they’re 2 way salespeople and think they’re in some position of authority to teach prospects ethics/etiquette/etc as if they’re doing you a favor lol
I tailor my resume, and I’ll deal with workday, but I refuse to do a project during an interview unless I’m paid for it, and I have a salary cap that’s reasonable for my experience. And if you’re gonna yank me around with more that five interviews, I won’t do it. But I’m also in demand right now for contracts, more so than full time, which happens every time there is a pending recession, so I’m able to do that. That said, when I’ve given into bullshit in the past, I’ve either had to quit immediately or got laid off in under a year and ended up more desperate, so I refuse to deal with that shit. And BTW I’d prostitute myself before going through a nasty recruiter like this who makes money off my back.
If someone can get their next role without half of the bullshit in this pic, good for them. "I'm not accepting a penny less than..." is a perfectly reasonable statement, if you can't offer the amount that would make me consider switching jobs, you can go pound sand.
I'm also not doing homework for an interview. Unless I'm really desperate for a role, you are already dedicating a lot of time for many interviews during the process.
When I got laid off from my job, I applied for any job that I qualified for. I applied to be a house cleaner and was told during my interview that I wouldn’t be dedicated enough to cleaning her house.
If a recruiter is searching for the right candidate, a senior and/or a perfect fit for the role, there is no need to put your own (recruiters) narcissism first.
I really don't get the grip that LinkedIn has on these people. I have my own website so I usually link that instead of a profile but I recently was applying to a job that had LinkedIn as a mandatory field on the application.
He's right about some parts and wrong about others, TBH. Even where he's right, he's being an asshole about it.
Employers should want to hire me!!
This part, he's right to criticize. You're just not entitled to a job - that's literally the point of the interview process. You have to make your resume/interview persona desirable as a hire, and they have to make themselves desirable as an employer.
I refuse to tailor my resume; it's all there!!
Depends on the job type, resume, industry, etc. Some job histories don't really lend themselves to being "tailored" the way he's talking about, some people don't want to be looking at jobs outside of their job history, etc. Several factors go into this.
I will explain my career gaps during THE interview!! (This one cracks me up.)
Just depends on the length of the gap. 6 months? A year? Probably can be pushed off to the interview because it's most likely just this job market. 5 years? 10 years? People are going to come up with fantastical reasons that probably aren't true.
There's no way I'm filling out a Workday application!!
Just depends on the job. Sometimes you have to, or HR literally can't hire you because it's their company policy.
I know my value! I won't take a penny less than......!
Most people I've known who say "I know my value" absolutely don't know their value or significantly overvalue their skills. If someone's saying this as a reason not to apply to certain jobs or to reject a bunch of offers, I raise an eyebrow. It's not wrong to know what your skillset is often paid in your industry and region, but as soon as you use "I know my value" unironically, I just don't trust your judgement.
There's zero chance I will complete a project during the interview process!!
As with a few others, it just depends. It's very standard to do a code test in the software industry, for example, but you shouldn't be building a whole feature.
LinkedIn is so lame! I'll delete my account as soon as I get a job!!
A lot of people still don't use LinkedIn. He's definitely wrong here. Some industries may prefer it (consulting, for example), but you can't be required to have social media except in very specific circumstances.
I highly doubt most of his candidates are saying even one of these things, but it's probably a pattern from nightmare candidates that also ends up catching people who are just following bad advice or who are outside of the skill range he's hiring for. I'd bet the majority of his jobs are entry level to low contributor level, in which case, this might be relevant feedback. If he's recruiting for senior positions, he won't be doing it for long.
After filling out more than one workday application a day I get that. Mainly due to the fact you have to create a new account and verify said account for every company using it.
I also get not completing a project when potential employers request you do actual work for real products for nothing. The last one I had was a coked up ops manger that gave me account access, wanted full heuristics, wireframes, high fidelity designs and PowerPoints explaining everything to improve products that were live. Essentially 30+ hours of unpaid work. Withdrew via corporate hr citing ethical concerns with that team.
The corporate boot licking on linked in is pathetic and agree it’s lame.
Using ai to tailor a resume has made it easier to customize but it’s still performative for most.
I encourage all to ponder the possibility of making the pairing of unemployed workers and companies with vacancies a public service delegated to a government agency staffed by well-trained public servants, where power-hungry fraudsters like this have no place in a rule-based hiring process.
Many, or at least several, countries have tried this model earlier. After doing corporate HR as a long-term experiment, I think it is fair to say the results are in: fuck all “bucket hat recruiters” out there, we the people want a better model than then unregulated labour market.
Most recruiters are lazy, temperamental, and terrible with people, even if their entire industry is built on serving people.
When offered the chance, I refuse outside recruiters whether I am job hunting myself, or hiring for a role.
I have had tremendous success with internal recruiters on both sides (sans one lady who was awful).
During my last search I had over a dozen recruiters “working for me” because why not and none of them panned out. After accepting recent role, I posted on LinkedIn about the new role and one of these recruiters liked my post and congratulated me in the comments. She then sent me an email last week asking where I was in my search. If that doesn’t sum up my experience even better, I don’t know what would.
Keep your chin up. It sucks out there and stay hungry.
I have these standards, like not working for free during an interview and not compromising my pay, and yet I’ve never been without a job longer than a week. Crazy how having standards works to get you a job you actually want. He just wants desperate people as clients so they take the first offer given, he gets then off his plate, and it serves his stats
He's the narcissist and he's projecting. He's having a power trip and is really having a good time abusing his power. Just look at the arrogance and entitlement. Parasites like him are [partly] responsible for turning the job market into a hell.
He is missing the point - 90% of these are not needed to be successful at a job nor indicate future success. It's just ego. The worst is a project (non-engineering). "We want to see how you think". The whole purpose is diversity of thought, so if you do not like how I think and do not recommend me, then what's the point?
Also, Workday has a class-action lawsuit b/c its system sucks. https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/2025/06/ai-bias-lawsuit-against-workday-reaches-next-stage-as-court-grants-conditional-certification-of-adea-claim/.
Finally, if I've worked at a major employer before the job I'm currently a candidate for, I've proven I know how to do the job. Sure I have to adapt to your way of doing it, which is every job ever, which teams seem to be avoiding training.
All the people like this I know of ended up getting exactly what they were looking for. All of those who bended their backs to get a job ended up spending way too much time and effort to get a job they don’t like.
Why do I have to fill out the same thing on an application, a resume and cover it in an interview? Each one should serve a specific level of information.
"Want" to hire me such as stop wasting weeks in countless interviews and processes. Then string me along in case their favored candidate declines the offer. Either hire me or don't.
Where exactly on the resume or application can I give the full context of my employment gaps?
OMG! An applicant has a minimum salary requirement. And won't accept the company low-balling them.
I know many people that had to do a project for an "interview" and the company stole their work and hired internally. I thought slavery was illegal.
Yeah, LinkedIn is lame and has become a blogging space for corporate jackasses like this recruiter.
He cant fill roles cuz hes bad at his job, so hes trying to shame people into being easier to place (read: desperate to accept anything) so he can get paid more without working more.
That guy is a dumbass, I’ve come to think his entire persona it’s just rage bait…. That or he’s dead serious, either way.
If you got the skills and knowledge, you get to be picky, even if you didn’t, basic decency is expected. Is it narcissistic? Absolutely, healthy narcissism is what shape us to be functional and healthy individuals, otherwise we’ll be slaves in the name of others….. wait. (P.D Narcissism isn’t inherently bad).
I am happy to discuss skills and go over hypotheticals. But I'm not doing free labor that they may use for their organization whether or not they hire me. Just no.
The post is the problem with job market today. Instead of simply just trying to find the best candidate, employers make job seekers jump through unnecessary hoops just to apply for jobs. Workday is especially egregious. Why can't one profile work for every application. Anytime a position has a Workday application I question whether it's worth it or not. Putting up roadblocks to applying doesn't lead to the getting the best person for the job, just the most desperate. Unfortunately too many people fall into the desperate category right now so nothing will change.
No this is exactly how employees should be, and im glad it's catching on.
I walk into interviews and the first thing I say is that "I'm not here for an interview. I'm here to find out if it's worth it to sell my time to you"
I have absolutely 0 qualifications. None. I have no formal education, and my employment history has 5+ year gaps in it.
But guess what? The catch is that I'm self employed, and I survive very well off of earning income without a single shred of overhead needed. I don't actually need to work for anyone. Haven't needed to since my early 20s.
So what makes me worth the $30/hour I earn today? The simple fact that if I don't get it, I go somewhere else where I will.
As a hiring manager I don't blame the person that wrote that stuff at all. It's all a BS waste of time. Of you're resume is good enough you'll get the call regardless. This is all just filler.
Ofc a fucking recruiter in a bucket hat decided to label burnt-out job seekers “narcissists”. Job seeking is tough. Not everything this guy said is bullshit, yet completely overlooks nuance and empathy. Crayon eater ffs
If a single applicant is willing to jump through these hoops to prove they want the job then everyone needs to. Applicants can't organize so the prisoners dilemma says to compete although cooperation leads to better outcomes.
I’ve seen this guys posts they’re pretty silly but this one goes even further. He’s just trying to sell you a resume service, which also won’t get you a job.
If you don’t need a job, you can afford to have standards. The more desperate you become, the more shit you’ll have to eat
This man likes his candidates desperate
In a just world he'd be eaten alive by a swarm of rats.
Swarms of rats showcase seamless, efficient corporate culture network effects, while eating prey alive is a clear sign of a healthy apetite for success.
In short, good for B2B sales.
"What medieval rat torture taught me about b2b sales"
I'm stealing that line!
Feel free my friend!
Correct, this shit is the recruiter’s problem since the client demands someone that is employed and doesn’t usually need a job that bad. The ideal candidate would tell a recruiter to piss off with all their hoops to jump through.
The recruiter either has to do some work making the application process easy for the candidate or seek lower level candidates who are excited enough about the job that they’ll endure the company’s shitty hiring process
Recruiter is almost asking for bad candidates.
I don’t agree with that. Wanting people desperate isn’t a hiring standard, it’s a red flag. Needing a job doesn’t mean someone should be treated like garbage or accept anything thrown at them. Desperation shouldn’t be a requirement for employment.
They aren’t arguing that it is a hiring standard, just stating that many hiring managers like desperate applicants because they can take advantage of their desperation.
As a recruiter he wants clients desperate and willing to take anything thrown at them, because it serves his numbers. He doesn’t want clients that can afford to be chooses and have self respect by not being underpaid or working for free during an “interview”
Totally agree with you. However, the system we have now is predatory
Yeah, I agree. Individual attitudes are bad, but the bigger issue is the system itself. It rewards predatory behavior and punishes people for having boundaries. When desperation becomes a feature of hiring instead of a red flag, something is seriously broken.
Yup!
It's the hiring standard these days because desperate people are more likely to to accept shit pay or hours.
I'm not even in a high position and I've turned down jobs just because they wanted to have the interview on Saturday, always with th answer "I don't work on weekends"
Of course he does, he gets his payout if they stay in the job he fills with them. Desperate people means he gets paid. People that leave because the job sucks means he doesn’t.
This, it really depends on how desperate u are. The more desperate u are the more u do. If u already have a good job u wont do any of those. I personally avoid video interviews with ai or even preset questions. And I also avoid those personalities test and application I have to do manually. I used to do them, but there time consuming and iv never gotten an response.
I think that’s why I hate LinkedIn recruiters the most. They want people desperate (for them) begging (to them) and grateful (to them). So yeah I agree it’s an issue with narcissists.
70% of the people I know that are like this are very experienced in an in demand field and can typically walk between jobs.
The other 30% aren't, and are unemployed.
If he's only talking to the one that are unemployed then you can see where he's got his view from.
The numbers might be anecdotal but this point is very accurate. If you have a skillset in demand and you can be picky. If you also have a job already you can be very picky. I havent submitted a resume after I got my entry level job. HR folks usually reach out to me and ask if Id consider interviewing.
Oh most definitely anecdotal, and will be very subjective. If you work in an in demand field then the peers you see walking in and out of jobs will most definitely lean towards the former group.
That being said, a good portion of the recruiters who recruit for these in demand roles are competent enough to recognise that and tender their clients expectations accordingly.
I find the specialised recruiters are generally the best for both employers and candidates. Personally I don't even add/accept them on LinkedIn unless I see they specialise in my field, there's not generally a point otherwise. "Bucket Hat Recruiter" as their headline wouldn't fill me with much confidence at all, unless I worked in some bucket hat adjacent industry. 😅
And the recruiters in those fields are usually very civil and polite toward us, even when they’re trying to negotiate us down.
I literally won’t pick up a welder for less than $35 an hour and literally laughed in the face of a guy at a factory who said “we can only do $25”. They just went without for 3 weeks and when they called me back I charged $50 an hour just to be a shit head about it. Those of us who CAN be picky SHOULD be picky just to remind them they aren’t untouchable. Plus rich fucks don’t get enough bad news, I like to be that bad news for them.
For months now, I’ve had recruiters contacting me about a job with city government. It’s a contract and they want to pay 39 an hour. That doesn’t give me the 40x rent I need to make to afford my rent-stabilized 1BR apartment.. And even if I were to get a second job, I don’t think I could charge what I’m usually charging as a consultant. And if I could stack jobs like that, I wouldn’t need a job. I know that whether or not I can pay my rent on what they pay me is my problem and not theirs, but I’m not gonna take a job that doesn’t pay my rent. I live in a VHCOL area, but that's besides the point.
I think we make up way more than 70% - maybe I’m being optimistic, but I think most people know where they stand and those of us who have such strong standards do so because it’s reasonable.
I wouldn’t phrase any of it like a douche the way this r/LinkedinLunatic does, but most of the things he’s describing are boundaries that I have, and it’s not like it’s any skin off my back to have one fewer insane recruiter contacting me. I’m already overemployed and I have plenty of normal recruiters reaching out to me.
Interesting opinion. I think it’s much easier to have an attitude than in-demand hard skills, so I’d probably skew the proportions in the other direction.
I dont actively look for jobs but get offered them and its always for so much less than I am worth. Im sure this recruiter gets doozies but in todays market a lot of skills are hard to find and anyone can break out on their own since most things are online... at least my skill set.
I get a list of skills they want and then I ask what's the salary and benefits and its almost always around half of what I make using those skills as a one man entrepreneur or even freelancing on my time working from home in my pajamas.
Even CMO jobs pay less in job offers than anyone who's actually competent at their job can make in their sleep as a digital nomad using the same skills. So I'm not really sure who's Landing these jobs because I doubt they're qualified.
I work in digital marketing, leads, ads etc. So maybe my industry is unique this way. But its going to hit the $trillion mark in 2026 so..... its a big industry.
I don’t believe you, at all. You 1000% don’t know a single person like this. This man wants someone to interview at the rite aid he manages, while riding a unicycle and expects them to cure cancer during the interview process.
Sounds like he's exclusively working with unemployed people with no skill set.
I refuse to do half of those things on his list with the first one being taking a pay cut in a job market where most people are already underpaid.
Generally his advice you see here is tailored to those unwilling to adapt after 6 months unemployment. Blaming the market, and just hoping it turns back for them with no adaptation to the new age of job seeking.
It's not all wrong but there are a few kernels in here that are upsetting and I'm even more upset that other people aren't pointing them out in the comments.
"I'll explain the employment gap in the interview" - As opposed to?
Characterizing principles as narcissism - nuff said
"Suck it up and do unpaid labor for an interview" combined with "there are two levers and you can't control the job market" is essentially the same logic as telling a slave to keep working and not revolt because they can't change the system. People have gone to war over wage theft and they were right for doing so.
Yeah, that’s exactly where it goes off the rails for me too. Some of the points aren’t totally wrong, but the framing is ugly.
“Explain the employment gap in the interview” is such a nothing statement. Of course you do. What else are people supposed to do, write a confession letter?
Calling basic boundaries “narcissism” is wild. Having principles isn’t ego, it’s self-respect.
And the unpaid labor part is the worst. Telling people to just accept it because “you can’t control the market” is basically normalizing exploitation. History is full of people pushing back against that exact logic, and they were right to. Just because a system exists doesn’t mean it deserves compliance.
I honestly think he expects you to have no resume gaps to explain.
I write love letters each time I apply with hearts and a poem about how we are a family. And a picture of me throwing a kiss.
Most of the time I get an automatic reply.
/s
When the market is good for candidates - more work than people - don’t you think candidates are “exploiting” employers for better offers?
He clearly means you have to explain it on your resume. And not leave the hirer wondering.
Leave the hirer wondering about what? Any relatively intelligent hiring manager can guess that this gap is because the person can’t find a work. Granted you can say a white lie like I was volunteering and whatnot but I don’t see how this adds any value as opposed to the alternative. My CV is my work experience related to the job I’m applying for, it’s also missing around 14 years of being a waiter since I was 14.
People push for a tailored resume to fit the role perfectly and at the same time they suggest you should cover any breathing moment because we don’t want the hiring manager thinking that since you haven’t cycled in a while you’ve forgotten how to cycle.
Gaps in employment can also be because of caring for a family member that has cancer.
Yes but again the type of gap shouldn’t have any saying on whether or not you can do the job therefore should be irrelevant.
Yep or having children. Or travelling. Or or or (having cancer yourself, in my case. As if I would tell an interviewer that!!)
Isn't that counter to customizing your resume? If you customize a resume and leave off roles that are not relevant, you create gaps. This comes down to whether you view a resume as a transcript or a marketing tool. For some people, you cannot have both at the same time.
And note that I am not a job hopper. Same employer for almost 30 years before I moved on. But I had a series of positions within that same employer. Depending upon the position I am applying for, some of the older positions might be more relevant.
And of course, all bullets should be in STAR or ARI format.
Yes, that's it. By capitalizing "THE interview," he's sarcastically pointing out that the people he's deriding expect to receive an interview at all. In his view, they are entitled to think they'll get an interview; he clearly means for them to explain their resume gap in their resume or cover letter, before they ever get to the interview part.
I think he could also be acting like the word "the" means the candidate expects only one interview when he knows he's going to put them through like 10 over a period of a year before making up his stupid little mind, and is making fun of that without realizing he's the idiot
Have you ever written a resume? Where exactly would you explain an employment gap in a resume? Resumes list job experience and relevant qualifications, they aren't letters. The format literally doesn't allow for "explanations"
Not only that, but imagine I have 20 years of experience. I wouldn't even want to work for the bored, ignorant hiring manager who's out here doing the math and saying, "Oh man, they had a gap of four months back in 2011. I'm definitely not calling them for an interview since they didn't explain it. That's too suspicious."
Im so baffled by the employment gap line too. I guess he expects people to explain in their cover letters?
On your resume or in the screening call.
How would you label it on the resume? Like this?
• Jan’23-May’25: Senior Manager at Business Company
• May’25-current: UNEMPLOYED
But then it conflicts with the idea of a tailored resume.
Screening call/interview is really the best place to talk about gaps as otherwise a resume can have multiple pages added they don't want to skim. Some work can also be an issue to write down due to security or NDA that can be more openly discussed in certain formats.
Yeah I don't understand the career gap part. To me it is only a red flag if you have a resume full of jobs that you only stayed at for like a year and had long gaps between them so you better have a good explanation for that.
Your résumé's "experience" section should include a hyperlink that redirects to an Apology Video where you apologize for your unemployment, replete with crying and tissues. /s
Like most recruiters, this guy seems like a real ass.
But he’s so highly skilled at recruiting, knows his value!
They try to make their job more interesting than it is, and with the lull in hiring, they are just making up stuff to post about.
Like most recruiters, “lower your standards so I can make money off of you and earn the wage I command”
Sounds like a real Richard
The recruiters I've worked with have been clueless bust not dicks. He seems like he hires people for his company and not outside companies.
You mean to tell me the guy named Dick King is an ass?
Is he right? Not really.
-if you have the right skill set and know where you fit in, companies will want to hire you.
-“I know my value.” If you’re right, you’re right. If you’re not, you will find out.
-“LinkedIn is so lame.” Yes, yes it is. And so is this wannabe influencer.
Focus your career on building valuable skills and knowledge, on doing something that you find value in and is valuable enough to others that they’ll pay for it. Then you’ll have to tolerate less and less bullshit as time goes on.
Well said
I have countless Workday accounts for the companies that use it, I’m on LinkedIn every day, I literally have a folder on my laptop dedicated to all the cover letters I’ve written, I’ve done projects while interviewers watched me…
I’ve been job hunting for 11 months and nothing.
I don’t care how long I have to job search. Never using workday again. The amount of time it takes can always be better served on other things.
:(
This is the sad reality. Unless you do concede some of your self-respect, you will probably remain jobless for quite some time
That’s the reality right now. If you don’t bend a bit and swallow some of your self-respect, you’re likely stuck without a job for a long time. It shouldn’t be this way, but it is
But even if you concede self-respect, you still don’t have a job.
I don’t see any correlation.
Or maybe you should revise your idea of what your self-respect requires.
Cause I know how much money I am valued and I know much much money I need to make my bills, so one of those two numbers is what I’m expecting to receive, and they aren’t far from each other.
And I’ve worked off desperation before when I had to breast pump at work cause we couldn’t afford formula and because it was the one thing I wanted to be able to do as a mom, and I was still working while breast pumping, and I wasn’t given an “area”, I was told I could use the office or break room, both of which have cameras, both of which do not have a door. I worked with high schoolers(literal minors) and I accidentally flashed them so many times that we had to set up a system between me and them where I would yell out to the rest of the restaurant staff that I was pumping and they would stay out of the break room for 20 mins. My bosses only ever complained that I had to walk away from the front of the store and made jokes about me being a cow. And my bosses were almost all women.
I will take on a lot of shit, if this is not the treatment I get. And this is everywhere in entry level positions, especially in restaurants. This is why Gen Z doesn’t care anymore, Gen X bosses have basically beat us out of caring about our job, cause they want us to forget to care about ourselves. I’m surprised that millennials don’t feel the same about boomers, and if they do, they hide it way better.
Um... If you concede some of your self respect, heck, all of it - no guarantee you actually get the position.
Fuck Richard "Dick" King.
Dick King—a name Bart Simpson uses on a prank call to Moe's bar.
Moe: Dick King? Is Dick King around?
I'm looking for a Dick King here?
Come on someone must know where I can find a Dick King?
Is it really self respect lost over filling out an application or tailoring your resume?
Thank you. When did “putting some work in” lead to losing all self respect?
I think it’s the dehumanizing aspect of filling in Workday after you fill in your resume, or the way you get ghosted constantly.
Workday is one of the end of humanity web interfaces.
Explaining your "career (there is no such thing anymore) gap" to someone who literally has no business over what you show them on paper, is conceding self-respect (unless it's the CIA or educational institutions). Taking less money than you're worth? it is conceding self-respect. I could go on and on... There is some kind of askeism that looks like a feeding frenzy when people cater to all their unreasonable demands. It's funny because we live in a world were self-respect is called narcissism. Literally gaslighting.
Filling out the application isnt the loss of self respect its behaving differently during the interview or during the job itself, kissing ass left and right to please corporate standards and managers that are probably under qualified, overpaid, with lots of tenure
i can concede to some items in the post. but workday application? fuck off
Went through 7 interviews over 2 and a half months. They said no because I was too confident. Senior Director role.
Lol, same almost :)
Last time was dealbreaker me trying to solve the problem in model situation instead of just reporting and leaving it be 😅
They want a timid senior director?
Well, you’re hearing him tell the story. Maybe too confident also means too arrogant.
Unless you have some niche skills I fear this is true
No, I don't think it's good advice just because one in a million people said it, LOL. But I do get this point, he's dealing with polite, respectful people all of the time and he probably got bored. He probably met someone who didn't give a fuck, and it made his job fun for five minutes, because his boring routine got broke. That's all
The "self respect" thing is such a crazy hill to die on. I couldn't imagine being without employment and income and making some weak protest about a minor inconvenience.
Not innately true; you just need to be picky. I was hired for my current job despite being underqualified because I didn’t “sell” myself outright. I conceded my weaknesses but then used my interview as an opportunity to interview my employer back and ask how they would support my success. It was mostly wariness because the legal field is innately toxic unfortunately, so I was trying to personally screen out toxicity for my mental health, but I had the privilege of being picky. My boss liked my slight push back because you don’t need yes men around you when your success depends on others being able to see opposing angles.
There's a difference between work and conceding self-respect (putting effort in the actual application)
And straight up exploitation
Last few 'interviews' gave me days long tasks. Didnt hire me. Then a few months later you see the entire thing you made being used by them and you cant do shit cause it was done on their pcs in their buildings.
Not to mention the hundreds of fake (or too picky recruiters) ones that give no interviews even tho you're qualified then keep reposting the same job 3 times in a row lol
i am like the person from the image, except i dont even have a linkedin account at all. i have been jobless for whole 12 days
I don't do assignments
I don't do more than 2 interviews per process (1x general with HR and one Technical)
I don't fill stupid ass forms - god damn waste of time
I don't negotiate too much on salary - I have a number - you meet it or you don't - If you dont then you better be a company that can provide me with cruciall experience that my resume is missing - otherwise look for other candidates
I don't do cover letters - they are ridiculous
I follow those rules without exception and so far missed maybe one or two opportunities (required filling stupid ass forms and cover letters)
I work in a tech division these days, but non tech executive. We do not pay well comparatively, our drawn is amazing benefits (pension) and experience you truly cannot get outside our four walls based on the work we do and for whom.
Got a teams message from a recruiter and one of our tech managers asking me to be part of an interview group for their 7th round of interviews.
I asked 7th? As in 7 groups or 7th time we've interviews this person?
They said 7th for this person this one is for fit and networking with people outside of their environment.
My legit response, because I know these people well and I decided to spend a little political capital, was "you know we should just fuck right the hell off, no one is worth this or deserves this. Just make a damn decision."
I got back a snarky "so you are a no?"
This led to a workgroup within the division to revamp how we do interviews. We got it down to 2 interviews and a third only if it requires senior leadership. Instead of 20 positions for the same job title open we do and all manager agree to group or panel interviews.
Yeah 7 rounds just shows lack of decision making and incompetent interviewing skills and questioning. Also they don't know how to read people well enough, etc.
What a waste of time and money for everyone involved.
Oh it was HR and a group of tactical tech managers who were promoted from within and are not people managers they are tactical task masters ideas for a well rounded interview process. Most people managers can make a decision in an interview. But their process was:
If I recall, this was a 3 years ago when we changed it, the metrics were from application to offer was somewhere between 4-6 months. Our interview attrition rate was in the low 70% range. Meaning 70% of people who entered the interview process voluntarily exited. This was for run of the mill engineer, architect, etc., Type positions. We aren't talking like Executive VP.
Same here, honestly. I’ve got my own hard lines too and I stick to them. If a process is bloated with assignments, endless interviews, forms, and fluff, that already tells me how they operate internally. I’d rather miss a couple of opportunities than burn time and self-respect jumping through pointless hoops. So far, not much regret.
This recruiter thinks hes god making 54k a year
Guy is just rage-baiting and marketing his business
Love that his whole identity revolves around an accessory you can just take off (bucket hat recruiter) ok guy
I fall into the workday part lol. I am never using it again, it has never worked for me in the past and the fact that I have to type in stuff that's already in my resume is just too much for a site that has never worked once for me.
I'm considering deleting LinkedIn (been there for a week and a couple) for the excessive amount of cringe and narcissistic behaviour on there.
Same honestly. Workday is a special kind of pain. Typing your entire resume again into a system that’s never helped you land a job just feels insulting.
And LinkedIn… I get the urge to delete it. A week on there is enough to see how performative and self-obsessed it can be. If it’s not helping you and it’s just draining your energy, stepping away isn’t some career sin. Sometimes protecting your sanity is the smarter move.
Filling out a Workday application is directly contingent on how desperate I am or how much clout/career advancement the company has.
I don’t work with Bucket Hat Recruiting
It’s BS and he is trying to apply pressure to the weak to sell themselves short
Anyone who calls you a ‘narcissist’ within seconds of meeting (or even before it) often displays narcissistic traits themselves. I recently had one recruiter ring me up and snigger at the place where I live, then proceed to try to get me to hand over information ‘which you will do… unless you’re a narc’.
Manipulators will try to get their teeth into weak or insecure personalities if they can
Yeah, that’s exactly what it is. It’s pressure tactics, plain and simple. Push people when they’re already vulnerable and hope they sell themselves short.
And you’re right about the “narcissist” label. Anyone throwing that word around that fast is usually projecting. That recruiter story says it all. Mocking where you live and then trying to intimidate you into compliance is textbook manipulation.
These people don’t want confident candidates with boundaries. They want insecure ones who won’t push back. That’s not a hiring strategy, it’s a control issue.
And just to demonstrate my point, the job that she was offering was sketchy about the pay rate too (a £25,000 pay range, so highly unusual) and would have required relocation. I then found a job paying £30,000 more than the top end of the salary range for that job. My skills are rather specific and I know that they are in demand, even if I too was struggling during the economic turmoil that we are going through.
Basically: don’t sell you short just because some recruiter who DOESN’T KNOW YOU tries to play on your insecurities
Big part of the reason I went into medicine is to be able to do exactly that. Fuck the nonsense.
Those are all very reasonable boundaries, if communicated a bit poorly
The bucket hat recruiter? No wonder he's posting rage bait.
The whole thing reads like rage bait. Say something inflammatory, blame candidates, get engagement. Easier than admitting the hiring process itself is broken.
This "recruiter" is enmeshed in a broken and abusive system. If he actually cared about job seekers, he'd work to change the system and elevate candidates more effectively. Instead, he wastes everyone's time.
Also, "bucket hat recruiter" isn't a title or qualification. It only tells me he has no real qualifications to be condescending toward anyone.
Wow…. This dude is so full of shit he trickles. Dude first rule of job seeking is you don’t pay to get a job. If I’m required to do unpaid labor as part of your screening process, I am paying you with my time and effort and getting nothing for it, not even a guarantee of going to the next round. So I’m not just paying for the job, I’m gambling for it. And it needs to be said:
IF YOU MAKE UNPAID PROJECT COMPLETION A MANDATORY PART OF YOUR SCREENING PROCESS, THERE IS NOTHING TO STOP YOU FROM NEVER HIRING ANYONE AND JUST CROWDSOURCING ALL OF YOUR WORK WITHOUT EVER HAVING TO PAY A SOUL A DIME. DON’T THINK WE DON’T SEE THIS. DISTRIBUTED SLAVE LABOR IS STILL SLAVE LABOR!!!
Complete a project during the interview process? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah, ok...
Can someone explain why gaps equal unemployable?
If someone had enough money to take a few months or a year off, why is that their business? What if someone had a serious illness? Or became a care giver?
Other than the chance someone was in prison. I don't get it.
Is it just me or workday applications never have a callback not even once ?
That’s Indeed
I am so close to deleting deactivating my linkedin account.
This has become a bloviating website for people who wouldnt be successful as a social media influencer or OnlyFans model who want to pretend they are.
Totally toxic and these recruiters think they are financially successful.
Um ok.... The way I look at it.... If you can delete your LinkedIn profile, it means you reach a point that you have enough fuck you money and just dont give a shit anymore..
These high and mighty recruiters are "cute".... 🤣
This person is deeply insecure and on a power trip, enabled by a recruiting culture that’s grown comfortable exploiting job seekers who don’t have leverage.
Considering that once they removed Lead from a lot of common products, they saw a drastic reduction in violent crime, I wonder what is in their environment to cause them to be like this? That is the polite thing to think. Them being a genuine victim of pollution is not their fault.
The unpolite thing? This dude would be selling his wife's body to be able to afford whips to whip his slaves, and her.
I think he's actually the narcissist and this is largely projection. I might log in just to block him.
I don't mind working for a living, but it's not my raison d'être.
One of the best pieces of advice I was ever given is this: if you die on the job, your job will be posted before your obituary.
I just did lol
Tailoring your CV is apparently mandatory, but tailoring that generic rejection email? Optional. Funny how adaptation only flows one direction. 😒
Sounds like he's recalling working with people from 3-4 years ago during the peak COVID market.
which TBH was not that great either. The "great job market" narrative was a lie. Last really great job market I remember was the 2000s. You would NOT spam apply (well, fax in resumes) because you know most would turn into interviews. Basic excel/word was a wow factor. Loads of completely average people I knew suddenly made enough to buy houses in their 20s. etc. The 2022 job market was like "if you know two coding programs and have 5 years + experience, it will now only take you a few months to get a new job."
You have to be really young/only worked post GFC to think that was a booming market.
- not aimed at you in particular, I hated the media narrative around it. I got a few interviews at that time, but they still had ridiculous expectations. The only thing that changes was that companies that had hiring freezes unfroze them for a year. That does not a booming economy or job market make
“Nobody wants to work anymore”
-this bozo
Fuck this guy whoever he is
Fuck people who live for their lame corporate job and spend time reading LinkedIn
As someone who does creative work, I've been asked to "complete a small task" hundreds of times, for each interview process basically
Out of the 100s of places I applied to, there was a handful that actually paid in full those days as work, and a handful that would simply accept my portfolio and not task me
So over the course of a job hunt, I'd be expected to complete like 50-100-200 "small tasks", basically work full-time for free
I can't even afford that time, you fucking idiots, I'm busy doing side jobs to stay afloat while I wait to see if I've been selected out of the 10s of thousands of other applicants
Start reading my damn resume.
I'm sick and tired of typing out the info by hand in every gd application and then be asked to attach the resume anyway. Like STOP that bullshit.
I mean there’s boundaries I still don’t cross. Not because I’m narcissistic but because, well, they’re boundaries. I refuse spyware technical assessments, for instance. Some of this examples are fine but others I’d want him to experience a year of job loss as karma to humble him a bit.
Also his company uses Workday and that’s unforgivable.
That agressive statement "will be unemployed forever" shows how bitter this recruiter is.
If he can do his job correctly he would not see these issues. He would be able to steer over them.
Idiot need just golden egg in hand to be able to give few pennyes to his boss.
Moron.
He looks as douchy as he sounds
Im very curious as to why he's having a hard time retaining talent. Why is he hiring? Hmmmmm
He’s kinda right which proves the only salvation for us as a species is a robust labor movement devoted to protecting the common person from the horrors of unfettered capitalism.
Yes and no. He’s still a clown tho
Confused about the career gaps explanation thing. I’m assuming Richard wants that to be in a cover letter, but it’s good to reiterate during an interview, as there’s no guarantee your interviewer has laid eyes on your cover letter.
Someone like bucket hat guy doesn't have top quality candidates on their roster - they don't have to put up with him. His entire spiel only exists to attract low quality employers who just luvvvv linkdin.
Stfu Dick King.
No, I’m not giving you free labor in the interview process.
And yeah, I do know my value.
Completing a project for free is a sucker’s game
And folks should have a floor for their salary requirement. Spinning my that as arrogance is a stretch.
Otherwise, sure. Do the tailoring, fill out the poorly crafted online application, be proactive and so forth.
I blocked this asshole years ago.
Define: irony. A narcissist criticizing a narcissist.
A narcissist criticizing someone that doesn't worship him and his way of thinking.
This is… <<chefs kiss>>
Recruiters seem to love to forget they’re 2 way salespeople and think they’re in some position of authority to teach prospects ethics/etiquette/etc as if they’re doing you a favor lol
I tailor my resume, and I’ll deal with workday, but I refuse to do a project during an interview unless I’m paid for it, and I have a salary cap that’s reasonable for my experience. And if you’re gonna yank me around with more that five interviews, I won’t do it. But I’m also in demand right now for contracts, more so than full time, which happens every time there is a pending recession, so I’m able to do that. That said, when I’ve given into bullshit in the past, I’ve either had to quit immediately or got laid off in under a year and ended up more desperate, so I refuse to deal with that shit. And BTW I’d prostitute myself before going through a nasty recruiter like this who makes money off my back.
If someone can get their next role without half of the bullshit in this pic, good for them. "I'm not accepting a penny less than..." is a perfectly reasonable statement, if you can't offer the amount that would make me consider switching jobs, you can go pound sand.
I'm also not doing homework for an interview. Unless I'm really desperate for a role, you are already dedicating a lot of time for many interviews during the process.
All I can read is « sck my dck »
LinkedIn is lame and you should absolutely delete it after you find your job.
You will put on a show for us, work for pennies, love it and be grateful for the priviledge!
When I got laid off from my job, I applied for any job that I qualified for. I applied to be a house cleaner and was told during my interview that I wouldn’t be dedicated enough to cleaning her house.
He is right. He also sounds like he would have been a very happy Roman slave trader
Being employed at a certain income and taking an interview where they propose to pay you less presents as easy a decision as can be made
If a recruiter is searching for the right candidate, a senior and/or a perfect fit for the role, there is no need to put your own (recruiters) narcissism first.
I really don't get the grip that LinkedIn has on these people. I have my own website so I usually link that instead of a profile but I recently was applying to a job that had LinkedIn as a mandatory field on the application.
He is a turd with a bucket hat on - and he is very wrong
It sounds like the kind of company that almost always has vacancies out bc no one wants to stay.
Feed him a steady diet of notificationless rejections and continual failures for a few decades and he will be one of us.
Fuck him and his kin into the ground.
The guys title should be "Ass Hat"
LinkedIn is lame, tho
This feels like ragebait
He's right about some parts and wrong about others, TBH. Even where he's right, he's being an asshole about it.
This part, he's right to criticize. You're just not entitled to a job - that's literally the point of the interview process. You have to make your resume/interview persona desirable as a hire, and they have to make themselves desirable as an employer.
Depends on the job type, resume, industry, etc. Some job histories don't really lend themselves to being "tailored" the way he's talking about, some people don't want to be looking at jobs outside of their job history, etc. Several factors go into this.
Just depends on the length of the gap. 6 months? A year? Probably can be pushed off to the interview because it's most likely just this job market. 5 years? 10 years? People are going to come up with fantastical reasons that probably aren't true.
Just depends on the job. Sometimes you have to, or HR literally can't hire you because it's their company policy.
Most people I've known who say "I know my value" absolutely don't know their value or significantly overvalue their skills. If someone's saying this as a reason not to apply to certain jobs or to reject a bunch of offers, I raise an eyebrow. It's not wrong to know what your skillset is often paid in your industry and region, but as soon as you use "I know my value" unironically, I just don't trust your judgement.
As with a few others, it just depends. It's very standard to do a code test in the software industry, for example, but you shouldn't be building a whole feature.
A lot of people still don't use LinkedIn. He's definitely wrong here. Some industries may prefer it (consulting, for example), but you can't be required to have social media except in very specific circumstances.
I highly doubt most of his candidates are saying even one of these things, but it's probably a pattern from nightmare candidates that also ends up catching people who are just following bad advice or who are outside of the skill range he's hiring for. I'd bet the majority of his jobs are entry level to low contributor level, in which case, this might be relevant feedback. If he's recruiting for senior positions, he won't be doing it for long.
Let me translate… “I prefer my candidates that will just take whatever I offer them so I only have to negotiate in my own best interests.”
He’s a self centered narcissist who doesn’t like competition.
After filling out more than one workday application a day I get that. Mainly due to the fact you have to create a new account and verify said account for every company using it.
I also get not completing a project when potential employers request you do actual work for real products for nothing. The last one I had was a coked up ops manger that gave me account access, wanted full heuristics, wireframes, high fidelity designs and PowerPoints explaining everything to improve products that were live. Essentially 30+ hours of unpaid work. Withdrew via corporate hr citing ethical concerns with that team.
The corporate boot licking on linked in is pathetic and agree it’s lame.
Using ai to tailor a resume has made it easier to customize but it’s still performative for most.
Bootlickers say what.
I encourage all to ponder the possibility of making the pairing of unemployed workers and companies with vacancies a public service delegated to a government agency staffed by well-trained public servants, where power-hungry fraudsters like this have no place in a rule-based hiring process.
Many, or at least several, countries have tried this model earlier. After doing corporate HR as a long-term experiment, I think it is fair to say the results are in: fuck all “bucket hat recruiters” out there, we the people want a better model than then unregulated labour market.
LinkedIn is just Facebook energy with a job title.
Complaining about full resumes and gaps in the same post
Workday does suck though.
Most recruiters are lazy, temperamental, and terrible with people, even if their entire industry is built on serving people.
When offered the chance, I refuse outside recruiters whether I am job hunting myself, or hiring for a role.
I have had tremendous success with internal recruiters on both sides (sans one lady who was awful).
During my last search I had over a dozen recruiters “working for me” because why not and none of them panned out. After accepting recent role, I posted on LinkedIn about the new role and one of these recruiters liked my post and congratulated me in the comments. She then sent me an email last week asking where I was in my search. If that doesn’t sum up my experience even better, I don’t know what would.
Keep your chin up. It sucks out there and stay hungry.
That is his pfp and he posts crap like this?
I wouldn’t accept his services for free, much less pay for them.
I have these standards, like not working for free during an interview and not compromising my pay, and yet I’ve never been without a job longer than a week. Crazy how having standards works to get you a job you actually want. He just wants desperate people as clients so they take the first offer given, he gets then off his plate, and it serves his stats
I apperciate the clowns like this dressing up as such so that I do not have to waste anytime on their thoughts and opinions.
I don't know if he's right, but I know he's an asshole.
He's the narcissist and he's projecting. He's having a power trip and is really having a good time abusing his power. Just look at the arrogance and entitlement. Parasites like him are [partly] responsible for turning the job market into a hell.
He is missing the point - 90% of these are not needed to be successful at a job nor indicate future success. It's just ego. The worst is a project (non-engineering). "We want to see how you think". The whole purpose is diversity of thought, so if you do not like how I think and do not recommend me, then what's the point?
Also, Workday has a class-action lawsuit b/c its system sucks. https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/2025/06/ai-bias-lawsuit-against-workday-reaches-next-stage-as-court-grants-conditional-certification-of-adea-claim/.
Finally, if I've worked at a major employer before the job I'm currently a candidate for, I've proven I know how to do the job. Sure I have to adapt to your way of doing it, which is every job ever, which teams seem to be avoiding training.
That guy is a cuck that wants to appeals to his corporate overlords.
Hopefully he gets fired from his recruited job and ends up with a job gap. Surely that will crack him up
He wants slaves.
I would never take career advice from someone who made a bucket hat his personal brand, except Gilligan.
He hates people who have self-confidence and don't like having their time wasted. Oh noooooo, I'm heartbroken he doesn't like me :(
All the people like this I know of ended up getting exactly what they were looking for. All of those who bended their backs to get a job ended up spending way too much time and effort to get a job they don’t like.
What an obnoxious prick. He’s a recruiter you can bet he’s the type to get you on the books and never contact you again
Hard to disagree with the applicant on this one
Why do I have to fill out the same thing on an application, a resume and cover it in an interview? Each one should serve a specific level of information.
"Want" to hire me such as stop wasting weeks in countless interviews and processes. Then string me along in case their favored candidate declines the offer. Either hire me or don't.
Where exactly on the resume or application can I give the full context of my employment gaps?
OMG! An applicant has a minimum salary requirement. And won't accept the company low-balling them.
I know many people that had to do a project for an "interview" and the company stole their work and hired internally. I thought slavery was illegal.
Yeah, LinkedIn is lame and has become a blogging space for corporate jackasses like this recruiter.
My opinion is that if you don't have a strong sense of your value then employers will take advantage of you.
He cant fill roles cuz hes bad at his job, so hes trying to shame people into being easier to place (read: desperate to accept anything) so he can get paid more without working more.
To be fair Workday is a cancer on the hiring process
Jobs that make you complete projects prior to being hired should be required to pay you for the project work.
this guy is a jackass.
That guy is a dumbass, I’ve come to think his entire persona it’s just rage bait…. That or he’s dead serious, either way.
If you got the skills and knowledge, you get to be picky, even if you didn’t, basic decency is expected. Is it narcissistic? Absolutely, healthy narcissism is what shape us to be functional and healthy individuals, otherwise we’ll be slaves in the name of others….. wait. (P.D Narcissism isn’t inherently bad).
What he is missing is the employed applicants that aren’t desperate won’t do all of that. Those are some of the most valuable applicants.
I am currently job seeking for the past 11 months. Things I will not do.
Provide references prior to the first interview.
A project that requires more than a few hours of work.
Fly out for a remote only position (on my dime).
Red flags are (family company). Hybrid work (but in office 3- 4 days a week). That's not hybrid it's flex.
And my biggest.
No salary listed.
He's right I will be unemployed forever...cuz now I have my own business!
I am happy to discuss skills and go over hypotheticals. But I'm not doing free labor that they may use for their organization whether or not they hire me. Just no.
Recruiters are so annoying
Okay but I do hate a Workday application
It’s okay. His job will be replaced by AI in less than a year.
The post is the problem with job market today. Instead of simply just trying to find the best candidate, employers make job seekers jump through unnecessary hoops just to apply for jobs. Workday is especially egregious. Why can't one profile work for every application. Anytime a position has a Workday application I question whether it's worth it or not. Putting up roadblocks to applying doesn't lead to the getting the best person for the job, just the most desperate. Unfortunately too many people fall into the desperate category right now so nothing will change.
I didn't even read past the second sentence.
No this is exactly how employees should be, and im glad it's catching on.
I walk into interviews and the first thing I say is that "I'm not here for an interview. I'm here to find out if it's worth it to sell my time to you"
I have absolutely 0 qualifications. None. I have no formal education, and my employment history has 5+ year gaps in it.
But guess what? The catch is that I'm self employed, and I survive very well off of earning income without a single shred of overhead needed. I don't actually need to work for anyone. Haven't needed to since my early 20s.
So what makes me worth the $30/hour I earn today? The simple fact that if I don't get it, I go somewhere else where I will.
It's as simple as knowing your worth.
As a hiring manager I don't blame the person that wrote that stuff at all. It's all a BS waste of time. Of you're resume is good enough you'll get the call regardless. This is all just filler.
I def refuse to complete projects during an interview. That’s work.
This guy is one of the biggest pieces of shit on LinkedIn. All he does it put people down and relishes in how fucked up the job market is
I wouldn’t listen to job advice from someone who looks like that fool
Ofc a fucking recruiter in a bucket hat decided to label burnt-out job seekers “narcissists”. Job seeking is tough. Not everything this guy said is bullshit, yet completely overlooks nuance and empathy. Crayon eater ffs
He's a recruiter, so I just assume he's full of shit.
Delusional asshole pontificating with bits of reality peppered in.
He's an asshole but he's also right.
If a single applicant is willing to jump through these hoops to prove they want the job then everyone needs to. Applicants can't organize so the prisoners dilemma says to compete although cooperation leads to better outcomes.
I’ve seen this guys posts they’re pretty silly but this one goes even further. He’s just trying to sell you a resume service, which also won’t get you a job.
He’s describing a lot of the complainers over in r/jobs