“Not all agree. For example, the International Financial Centers Index reverses the order, putting London on top of New York. Its findings are compiled by CEOWorld magazine based on a survey of financial services professionals plus no fewer than 50 other analyses of cities for their global competitiveness. It takes into account not just size but factors such as regulatory and political environment, tax policies, and infrastructure.”
London sits in a time zone where it can trade in both North American, European, and Asian markets at different times of the day. It also is where most if not all financial systems are based off. 40% of the FX market goes through London, and all the big four accounting firms are based in London. Most international companies behind sanctions like Russian or otherwise have holding corps in London.
By volume New York is king, but that is because the American Market is a Goliath, London is king because every market in the world flows through it.
Not even recently. The financial center of gravity shifted from London to New York c.1916 as a direct result of WWI, the UK exhausting their ability to raise funds, and American financial intervention. That, more than anything else, is what sounded the death knell for the British Empire.
Nah, the Bank of London is still the international focal point, people just slurp propaganda without actually looking into these things. Brexit weakened its position but this institution is centuries old with global relationships almost as old.
Hell people think America is going to have a downfall because of one bad president, that’s how clickbait short form information has warped people’s minds.
Support for Ukraine has interestingly been the one subject the UK has taken a position of moral clarity on, even as they sacrifice everything else on the altar of appeasing unhinged fascists on twitter.
Right wing people in Britain are obsessed with WW2 because it really was the greatest moment of the nation. Britain was alone against the horrors of European fascism, It retroactively justifies its empire as Britain does not win the war without its empire, it was britains greatest moment of military glory, and its britain last bow on the world stage as a superpower. Before WW2 Britain is at best neutral, after WW2 its not a superpower, During WW2 it was a superpower and standing alone against evil.
So anything that reminds Britain of WW2 will get a big reaction from any side. People see Zelensky as a churchill style figure fighting against a larger fascist nation invading his land, and Britain remembers Russia as the bad guy in the cold war.
I don't think Britain saw it as losing the empire as Britain very much tried to hold on to it's core possessions but in practice that is what happened l. Britain was willing to be poor and lose territory to stop nazi domination of Europe.
This is another reason I believe WW2 is so important for Britain. It writes the final chapter on its empire, justifying all its imperialist moves and redeeming it. It's become the origin myth of the British nation.
I practice Britain absolutely tried to hold onto it's empire but could simply not keep control of it, it falls either with the loss of India or the Suez, neither of which were directly because of nazi actions and were due to Britain not being a superpower anymore.
Britain also remembers that Russia has assainated multiple people inside the UK over the past 20 years and has repeatedly threatened to nuke it. Also the whole "tsunami missile" thing. Presenting British opposition to Russia as ww2 larping is ignorant of the reality of the geopolitics involved.
WW2 can be easily framed as moral, if we ignore why it was fought and pretend it was because the Nazis were bad people who did bad things, which is indeed a great reason.
Other "greatest moments" of the Empire are more difficult to frame as morally good, but you'll still find people who are willing to try.
If only people knew Churchill started bombing Berlin citizens with the intention of getting London bombed just to force the USA's hand to get involved.
Little more than puppets in WW2 is the unfortunate reality.
If only people knew Churchill started bombing Berlin citizens with the intention of getting London bombed just to force the USA's hand to get involved.
Little more than puppets in WW2 is the unfortunate reality.
If only you understand the realities of war from the ground. Perhaps you wouldn't frame the bombing of Berlin as an evil.
Edit. It would appear that rhe above user has commented and then blocked me. Cowardly.
Little more than puppets in WW2 is the unfortunate reality.
That's not even close to being reality. What are you talking about? Britain fought alone for almost three years. They turned down peace deals with Germany. They took an ethically and morally correct stance and sacrificed so much for freedom.
It's also a very convenient position for our politicians to take a maximalist stance on Ukraine to appear strong.
Not entirely certainly it comes from moral clarity, when it's four spectacularly unpopular prime ministers attempting to distract from policy failures at home.
Britain isn't against the EU, and isn't against Ukraine.
We've supported Ukraine a lot.
And you can say the uk isn't 'opposing' trump much, but what is there to gain? Trump is easy to please with flattery and easy to annoy with anything 'against' him.
Britain isn't against the EU, and isn't against Ukraine.
We've supported Ukraine a lot.
And you can say the uk isn't 'opposing' trump much, but what is there to gain? Trump is easy to please with flattery and easy to annoy with anything 'against' him.
Interesting grammatical error. Funny how this mistake common amongst Russian speakers is being used in a comment that parrots Russian divide and conquer tactics.
Bruh I think you’re gonna have a bad time when the election hits if that’s what you believe. He might moderate himself when he is PM though, as usually happens.
They just overtook the labour party and became the largest party. Its naive to underestimate them, only thing that can stop a reform goverment is if the tories can wins their voters back and split the right wing vote
4 years at least. The 3 day military operation will probably hit the 7 year mark. The US will go through an election and have a different president. There will be a new french president almost certainly.
There's no way to no the next election and what all of that will mean and what the world will be like.
But, judging currently, Farage is highly divisive man and at the head of a party somehow crumbling constantly. With a base made up of the old.
He could do well, but I just can't believe he'll win the next general election if the world stays similar (And that's how I'm judging it).
Part of the problem for the UK is if the world stays similar though. Economic decline helps reform as they are an outsider party. It kind of depends if the Tory’s get their shit together, not really what labour does now. If the right vote doesn’t split and the economy continues to be shitty for regular people especially in the north then he’s got a good path to government.
The UK was in the EU until 5 years ago and now has plans to rejoin the custom union. It has gone to was against American backed dictatorships and allowed US draft dodgers during the Vietnam war.
There literally no way that it is. It might be trying to do what it can to ease relations with the US, but it's doing that from the European camp. And it's possibly the most anti-China European country, and Russia's favourite boogeyman
There is literally no way Britain is on the side of China and Russia whilst being against Ukraine. Britain has been one of the staunchest supporters of Ukraine, Russia considers Britain to be their number 1 enemy and there is currently an ongoing scandal in the British government over who is to blame for a prosecution against alleged Chinese spies falling through with the Prime Minister saying that he is frustrated with the result of the trial and both the Labour and Conservative parties blaming the other for not designating China as a threat to national security.
Jews control the whole galaxy and were the sole reason for previous Civil War?
He said Israel. Never mentioned Jews. If you believe all Jews are represented by Israel, tell that to all the ones protesting Israeli genocide, or Zohran voters. Jewish people are not a monolith.
Europe constantly believing it is up against the entire world is hilarious and also terrifying. It's like the pan europification of Nazi conspiracy theory
Both the French and Germany armies at the beginning of ww1 dwarfed the British army. Britain had an army of about 250k at the start of the war. France had an army of over a million and the German army wasn't far behind. Britain was absolutely not "by far the strongest power" in WW1 and was the junior partner to France in the entente.
Despite this I have never heard of us being portrayed as the underdogs in WW1, despite having lived here my entire life and Britain's substantially smaller army at the onset of the war.
tbh the underdog stuff might just be how the US protrays your protrayal of yourself lol.
But the British were definetly the most power nation in the early 1900s, I mean they controlled 1/4 of the world, had the largest economy, population (including colonies), and navy (which unlike the pre-war armies were the real measure of industrial power).
The British basically had free reign to pick apart the German and Ottoman colonial holdings while cutting them off from their natural resources, and critically German's food, which was what ultimately broke them. The Germans threatened the French's soverenty, and broke the Russians but they never really threatened Britian's power, couldn't even get out of their back yard without the British breaking their nose.
We should be careful to note Britain’s starting army also had plentiful reserves and early recruits with a total of 710,000 men either ready or able to be quickly made ready. For comparison, Germany’s army at the start was a neat 840,000 men in a similar position. This also doesn’t take into account colonial troops from the dominions (Canada, India, Australia, etc.), the navy (which the UK dominated in), and whatnot.
I think it’s mainly a US thing for WWI to be seen as a clash of British and French underdogs versus the might of the Central Powers (which is laughable if you look at Austria-Hungary), though UK propaganda in WWII shows them standing alone after the fall of France, so perhaps that’s where the idea came from. Truth be told, the average American doesn’t know too much about WWI because the US was only in it briefly which probably makes it easier to mix it up with WWII - conflict Americans know rather well.
We are losing land, men, and equipment daily. Our male population will never recover. Our politicians are already talking about importing Indians to replace them. How the fuck is that winning? Do you people actually care for Ukrainians or do you just dislike Russia?
It is rediditors, so the latter. I don't think these people give a shit beyond what fits into their paranoid and dogmatic delusions about the world. It's all larger than life hype shit westerners get to circlejerk about, with call of duty tier moral judgements (le West good, le democracy good, le Russians bad, le China bad), all the while their own countries are being swallowed up by corporations and are becoming right wing cleptocracies. Fuck caring for things that can actually be affected and addressed in my own life, there is this other conflict I know fuck all about that I need to feel really angry about to give my life meaning.
Russia will still take like an year and a half to get the rest of Donetsk at the current pace and it's unlikelly that Russia will keep this going for that long. If Ukraine just cedes to Russia's demands and gives them all of Donetsk without reliable security garantes from the US or Europe they will just be giving away their defensive lines for nothing, becoming very vulnerable to further agression in the proccess.
No? We haven't made any gains in two years while Russia is smoothing us down. None of us will know casualties until after the war but even if they did, they're still advancing while our men can barely get a regiment together because Zelensky needs another press tour or some shit
Actions speak louder than words of a known liar. And selling arms worth billions to Ukraine is a loud action.
Also the EU has no ground to speak on the flow of Russian oil, thats basically how we got here. And the EU didn't even get to keep the pipline.
The US gave Ukraine more support than any single country for 3 years, and after giving all of their old draw down gear (which is what actually kept Ukraine in the fight, videos of storm shadow make for cool propaganda, but 155mm cluster rounds and GMLRs are what hold the line.) And what do they get for it? Ungreatful Europeans depicting them as being on the same side as China, their primary adversary...
If we really have to do a star wars allegory, surely the third world is the rebels and the hegemonic world powers of china, usa, etc are the evil empire
glorious China, the country of freedom, totally not a totalitarian imperialist country! do you know why? because USA bad and some propaganda videos about flashy sky scrapers and children in cute outfits cooking food in school
Yeah until recently Britain was the biggest aid donor to Ukraine other then the USA and the combined EU.
Germany has since overtaken it in donations after finally authorising sending tanks, but Britain was sending those very early on. Also huge numbers of Ukrainian officers, pilots, etc are trained in the UK.
Tbh it's one of the few things that have made me proud of the UK in recent years.
It's also worth adding that the UK was often the first to cross Russia's lines in the sand over what equipment could be sent to Ukraine. Whilst the rest of Ukraine's allies were hesitant over Russian threats the UK pretty much always just ignored these and sent the equipment anyway. Arguably Britain's largest contribution to the war, even more so than the vast amount of equipment and training, has been shaming the rest of Ukraine's allies into contributing more.
They have been very big on supporting Ukraine tbf, and they are no longer in the EU, so I suppose if you are looking for 3 flags in each side, Britain is a decent choice
When one democracy voluntarily enters into a defence pact with another group of democracies that’s actually vassalisation.
What’s funny is that the other side depicted here, namely China and Russia have not agreed alto defend each other. A few years ago Iran would have considered on their team. But they both stood back and did nothing as Isreal bombed it.
It's pretty well known fact in higher circles that it's both.
That's why he is selling nvidia chips to them. He says one thing and do opossite but lots of people just listen to his yappin. Same thing with the files.
The country in an active trade war with China, that has given more aid to ukraine than everyone else combined, and the country with military bases across the EU acting as their guardians since they dont want to?
The country opposing Chinese expansion in the SCS and pacific?
The country that patrols the world's waters making them safer for all?
Haha I see your point, I completely agree that America has done more than anyone else combined, I suppose it’s more trump that is stuck in the middle, not America on the whole. The Kremlin literally said the other day that trumps foreign policy aligns with Russia’s goals, so that has to count for something?
Not to mention the US-endorsed peace plan that essentially just offered Russia everything they wanted, and then threatened Ukraine with a complete halt of aid if they didn’t accept? Okay, the US backed down, and they have indisputably done more than any other country, but it definitely looks like they are wavering - or at least the leadership is.
The Kremlin literally said the other day that trumps foreign policy aligns with Russia’s goals, so that has to count for something?
Trump's the one that started the trade war with china.
And wouldnt this be the exact thing to say to attempt to cause division?
The ukraine Russia thing i think was just trump trying to force a peace through any means, as america is getting tired of supporting the war, and public opinion is swaying against it slowly but surely, because why should we support a war in Europe when Europe itself is funding the aggreasors. Europe is refusing to step up and take responsibility for a crisis in their back yard. The fact that trump didnt force the plan through shows that he still wants ukraine to fight, but he also wants Europe to play a bigger part in it.
I mean, Russian airforce has breached EU airspace multiple times, cut sea cables for communication multiple times, and sent drones into EU airspace, and Europe can't even do the basic minimum of just not buying Russian energy, much less take an actual aggressive stance against Russian imperialism.
Hell Germany is closing down their own power plants.
If the EU were honest, they've been riding the US for so long they dont know how to take care of themselves. Nor do I think they want to. They want to posture they're so big and powerful, but everytime someone does something they dont like, the worst they do is speeches.
Wrong mate. The US aid is about 114 billion, between 2022 and 2025 with the EU all together only being 63.2 billion in rhe same time frame. If you take out Germany just by itself that drops to 41.9 billion
So in actual fact the US has donated double what the EU put together has.
The EU has PROMISED much more, but hasn't delivered, as their delivery would be reliant on unfreezing and donating Russian money.
Something they dont want to do while still being in business with russia.
Sorry if a silly question, maybe I'm misunderstanding, why would you subtract the German contribution from the EU contribution? These are separate, one does not include the other, evidenced by the 0 military contributions from the EU. The combined contributions of the EU Commission and Council, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden and France is 118.75 billion.
I am not even denying that. Still facts of the matter are that Trump decide to go pro-russia. Blocking giving Ukraine frozen funds. Telling Ukraine to give Donbas away (it is the most hilly and fortified part of the Ukraine, if Russia gets it they will have much easier time conquering rest). Creating plans when Russia is incorporated into global economy and USA invest heavily.
Like why? It is not about US defence budget, not helping Russia will not cost you anything. Not to mention that some stuff given to Ukraine would be effectively money saver for Ukraine. Old military trucks that were designed to fight soviets and are mothballed in some random warehouse in Nebraska or whatever. It costs money to keep it functional and later to scrap it. This could be done for the transportation cost effectively.
Trump does nothing, he just does not want to help by a political decision
No trump just flip flops every other week my dude. One week Ukraine will give up the Donbas, the next they're getting tomahawks to hit Moscow.
We've also given up most of that draw down equipment and what Ukraine needs atm is high level (pac-3 intercepters and longrange cruise missiles) that the US builds to fight China.
It really alienates the average American when they see Europeans, who have continuosly not met NATO reqs say the US is on Russia and China's side, when we have done the most to counter Russia and are China's main military competition.
I would not mind American not giving latest stuff in big quantities, it is understandable. But they are giving 0 stuff as of 2025. And they are actively sabotaging Ukraine by putting demands on the defenders instead of the agressor for some reason.
The same strategy that Russia welcome basically tells EU is should dismantle and spew some far-right BS. As you are talking about NATO commitements, I wonder what the average Dane is feelling, after losing the most soldiers per capita in Afghanistan only to be rewarded with US threats to take Greenland.
You have your point that EU could spend more on defence, but the current US foreign policy is just adversary towards Europe.
Under Trump the US approved the sale of other 3,000 cruise missiles to Ukraine, minding you the Germans have not sent a single one, and the UK doesn't have enough missiles to send a fourth of that.
Absolutely true. Russia's "peace demands" are a literal 1:1 with the terms of offered by the Mouth of Sauron at Morannon. So I don't know why they're comparing to Star Wars instead.
These people can't understand there being more than 2 sides to anything, and one side not being the Good Guys (tm) and tbf other side being the b
Bad Guys (tm).
Even Star Wars makes fun of that by putting that exact thinking in the mouth of the villain. "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy."
There is literally no way Britain isn’t on the other side.
UK foreign policy has been nothing more than "pwease luv me daddy amewica 🥺" since the fucking suez crisis, they love being a US client state
London is the financial capital of the world
London really wants you to believe it’s still the financial capital of the world. Currently it’s behind New York and arguably singapore
Surely Shanghai before London or Singapore
In volume but no London still holds its spot at the international level
More than New York? Nonsense. London is maybe #1 for money laundering, maybe
https://www.investopedia.com/how-london-became-the-world-s-financial-hub-4589324
Just read instead of saying “no”
Your article says New York is first, with London considered second since 2023. With both swapping regularly.
“Not all agree. For example, the International Financial Centers Index reverses the order, putting London on top of New York. Its findings are compiled by CEOWorld magazine based on a survey of financial services professionals plus no fewer than 50 other analyses of cities for their global competitiveness. It takes into account not just size but factors such as regulatory and political environment, tax policies, and infrastructure.”
London sits in a time zone where it can trade in both North American, European, and Asian markets at different times of the day. It also is where most if not all financial systems are based off. 40% of the FX market goes through London, and all the big four accounting firms are based in London. Most international companies behind sanctions like Russian or otherwise have holding corps in London.
By volume New York is king, but that is because the American Market is a Goliath, London is king because every market in the world flows through it.
The actual Global Financial Centers Index 36 puts London second under New York. Source. https://www.longfinance.net/publications/long-finance-reports/the-global-financial-centres-index-36/
And by international, do you mean excluding every other country that beats it?
Beats it in what?
Guitar hero
True
Sure buddy, whatever you gotta tell yourself
Damn dude when you put it like that, I know you have zero idea about anything. Have fun with that
noone cares about white collar gamblers maybe you guys schould figure out how to get out of the finance curse
How’s that?
What does that mean ?
It means he still thinks britain is in any way still relevant.
The world uses the dollar, not the penny. It is not the 1800s.
What?
Means most of the international deals happen through the bank of London as it has long standing connections across the globe
I think its changed recently
Not even recently. The financial center of gravity shifted from London to New York c.1916 as a direct result of WWI, the UK exhausting their ability to raise funds, and American financial intervention. That, more than anything else, is what sounded the death knell for the British Empire.
Nah, the Bank of London is still the international focal point, people just slurp propaganda without actually looking into these things. Brexit weakened its position but this institution is centuries old with global relationships almost as old.
Hell people think America is going to have a downfall because of one bad president, that’s how clickbait short form information has warped people’s minds.
Back in the 17-1800s yeah
Support for Ukraine has interestingly been the one subject the UK has taken a position of moral clarity on, even as they sacrifice everything else on the altar of appeasing unhinged fascists on twitter.
Right wing people in Britain are obsessed with WW2 because it really was the greatest moment of the nation. Britain was alone against the horrors of European fascism, It retroactively justifies its empire as Britain does not win the war without its empire, it was britains greatest moment of military glory, and its britain last bow on the world stage as a superpower. Before WW2 Britain is at best neutral, after WW2 its not a superpower, During WW2 it was a superpower and standing alone against evil.
So anything that reminds Britain of WW2 will get a big reaction from any side. People see Zelensky as a churchill style figure fighting against a larger fascist nation invading his land, and Britain remembers Russia as the bad guy in the cold war.
Hitler presumed we wouldn't sacrifice the British Empire to defeat him.
It was one of his major mistakes.
I don't think Britain saw it as losing the empire as Britain very much tried to hold on to it's core possessions but in practice that is what happened l. Britain was willing to be poor and lose territory to stop nazi domination of Europe.
This is another reason I believe WW2 is so important for Britain. It writes the final chapter on its empire, justifying all its imperialist moves and redeeming it. It's become the origin myth of the British nation.
I practice Britain absolutely tried to hold onto it's empire but could simply not keep control of it, it falls either with the loss of India or the Suez, neither of which were directly because of nazi actions and were due to Britain not being a superpower anymore.
Churchill knew it would cost them the Empire.
Britain also remembers that Russia has assainated multiple people inside the UK over the past 20 years and has repeatedly threatened to nuke it. Also the whole "tsunami missile" thing. Presenting British opposition to Russia as ww2 larping is ignorant of the reality of the geopolitics involved.
WW2 was Britain's greatest moment? Never heard of the British empire?
WW2 can be easily framed as moral, if we ignore why it was fought and pretend it was because the Nazis were bad people who did bad things, which is indeed a great reason.
Other "greatest moments" of the Empire are more difficult to frame as morally good, but you'll still find people who are willing to try.
If only people knew Churchill started bombing Berlin citizens with the intention of getting London bombed just to force the USA's hand to get involved.
Little more than puppets in WW2 is the unfortunate reality.
If only you understand the realities of war from the ground. Perhaps you wouldn't frame the bombing of Berlin as an evil.
Edit. It would appear that rhe above user has commented and then blocked me. Cowardly.
That's not even close to being reality. What are you talking about? Britain fought alone for almost three years. They turned down peace deals with Germany. They took an ethically and morally correct stance and sacrificed so much for freedom.
It's also a very convenient position for our politicians to take a maximalist stance on Ukraine to appear strong.
Not entirely certainly it comes from moral clarity, when it's four spectacularly unpopular prime ministers attempting to distract from policy failures at home.
Britain isn't against the EU, and isn't against Ukraine. We've supported Ukraine a lot.
And you can say the uk isn't 'opposing' trump much, but what is there to gain? Trump is easy to please with flattery and easy to annoy with anything 'against' him.
We is a very funny pronoun.
Can I not use a term that resonates with my support for the policy?
Ultimately you can use whatever you want, but it still does not change the fact that "we" is a very funny pronoun.
Britain is not for Ukraine, it's for damage to Russia at cost of Ukraine
Interesting grammatical error. Funny how this mistake common amongst Russian speakers is being used in a comment that parrots Russian divide and conquer tactics.
Will you be able to say the same when UK will elect Farage as prime minister ?
Probably not, but he almost certainly won't be elected PM. He's an outsider and that is what he benefits from
Bruh I think you’re gonna have a bad time when the election hits if that’s what you believe. He might moderate himself when he is PM though, as usually happens.
Considering his support is going down and the election is 4 years away, I doubt Reform will survive long enough to be an actual threat.
They just overtook the labour party and became the largest party. Its naive to underestimate them, only thing that can stop a reform goverment is if the tories can wins their voters back and split the right wing vote
"He might moderate himself when he is PM though, as usually happens."
That is a 1930s joke, and not uttered in earnest, right?
It’s why I said usually. Most do, even populist demagogues. Trump 1.0 did though Trump 2.0 got more extreme in round 2 so 🤷
4 years at least. The 3 day military operation will probably hit the 7 year mark. The US will go through an election and have a different president. There will be a new french president almost certainly. There's no way to no the next election and what all of that will mean and what the world will be like.
But, judging currently, Farage is highly divisive man and at the head of a party somehow crumbling constantly. With a base made up of the old.
He could do well, but I just can't believe he'll win the next general election if the world stays similar (And that's how I'm judging it).
Part of the problem for the UK is if the world stays similar though. Economic decline helps reform as they are an outsider party. It kind of depends if the Tory’s get their shit together, not really what labour does now. If the right vote doesn’t split and the economy continues to be shitty for regular people especially in the north then he’s got a good path to government.
Britain is like the #1 Russia hater outside Eastern Europe and they've been ranked competitive on this since the Great Game
Russia literally ranked us as enemy number 1 recently
The UK was in the EU until 5 years ago and now has plans to rejoin the custom union. It has gone to was against American backed dictatorships and allowed US draft dodgers during the Vietnam war.
There literally no way that it is. It might be trying to do what it can to ease relations with the US, but it's doing that from the European camp. And it's possibly the most anti-China European country, and Russia's favourite boogeyman
Considering I live there, my first thought was "why the hell are we the good guys"
I don't like to believe my government is genuinely evil, but this kind of tribalism is so childish man.
What a stupid take, Britain on the same side as Russia?
What are you on about? We have literally been one of the most ardent supporters of ukraine since day one
There is literally no way Britain is on the side of China and Russia whilst being against Ukraine. Britain has been one of the staunchest supporters of Ukraine, Russia considers Britain to be their number 1 enemy and there is currently an ongoing scandal in the British government over who is to blame for a prosecution against alleged Chinese spies falling through with the Prime Minister saying that he is frustrated with the result of the trial and both the Labour and Conservative parties blaming the other for not designating China as a threat to national security.
dawg if the US, China & Russia are all on the same team there is no war dawg every country just taking it like a good boy.
Europeans seething with this one neat trick
Battlefield level world building
Alao Vader later kills Kenobi anyway
And in the process Kenobi becomes more powerful and the rebels go on to the win the war
Well, Kenobi turns into ghost, and essentially “good guys” win when Vader saves Luke from Emperor.
So who’s Luke and Palpatine?
Let's say Luke is NZ and Palpatine can be like Israel or something
Jews control the whole galaxy and were the sole reason for previous Civil War?
“Oh yeah, it’s all coming together now”
No Israel is just another settler colonialist nation committing genocide. Israel does not represent all Jews.
He said Israel. Never mentioned Jews. If you believe all Jews are represented by Israel, tell that to all the ones protesting Israeli genocide, or Zohran voters. Jewish people are not a monolith.
Doesn't Obi Wan let him do that?
Wilingfully letting himself kill
That's also what is happening in real life.
If the United States, China and Russia were to collaborate, being on any other side would be tantamount to suicide.
Take Russia out of that combo and it's still at 99% strength
Europe will definitely just bend the knee to whatever the US wants
Pertinent username.
That's possible, but not guaranteed. The EU is already done with Trump's bs and absolutely does not take the US seriously on their foreign policy.
Europe constantly believing it is up against the entire world is hilarious and also terrifying. It's like the pan europification of Nazi conspiracy theory
Nothing makes me laugh more than how the British protrayed themselves as the underdog in ww1 like they weren't by far the strongest power.
Both the French and Germany armies at the beginning of ww1 dwarfed the British army. Britain had an army of about 250k at the start of the war. France had an army of over a million and the German army wasn't far behind. Britain was absolutely not "by far the strongest power" in WW1 and was the junior partner to France in the entente.
Despite this I have never heard of us being portrayed as the underdogs in WW1, despite having lived here my entire life and Britain's substantially smaller army at the onset of the war.
tbh the underdog stuff might just be how the US protrays your protrayal of yourself lol.
But the British were definetly the most power nation in the early 1900s, I mean they controlled 1/4 of the world, had the largest economy, population (including colonies), and navy (which unlike the pre-war armies were the real measure of industrial power).
The British basically had free reign to pick apart the German and Ottoman colonial holdings while cutting them off from their natural resources, and critically German's food, which was what ultimately broke them. The Germans threatened the French's soverenty, and broke the Russians but they never really threatened Britian's power, couldn't even get out of their back yard without the British breaking their nose.
We should be careful to note Britain’s starting army also had plentiful reserves and early recruits with a total of 710,000 men either ready or able to be quickly made ready. For comparison, Germany’s army at the start was a neat 840,000 men in a similar position. This also doesn’t take into account colonial troops from the dominions (Canada, India, Australia, etc.), the navy (which the UK dominated in), and whatnot.
I think it’s mainly a US thing for WWI to be seen as a clash of British and French underdogs versus the might of the Central Powers (which is laughable if you look at Austria-Hungary), though UK propaganda in WWII shows them standing alone after the fall of France, so perhaps that’s where the idea came from. Truth be told, the average American doesn’t know too much about WWI because the US was only in it briefly which probably makes it easier to mix it up with WWII - conflict Americans know rather well.
Mind you the US has been Ukraine's single biggest donor of military equipment
yeah, when it was good
How else will they test their weapons against Russia if not by using Ukraine as a proxy?
The US and NATO don't care about Ukranians, they just want to attack Russia and expand their power, as Russia wants to do to them.
mind that they didnt send any free aid to Ukraine since Trump came to power
and yet the US is still Ukraine's most valuable arms supplier, and the EU foots the bill not them
Until Trump that is.
Unfortunately doesn’t really mean a thing if the current administration forces them into a surrender
I think losing a war also forces people into surrender to be fair
who's losing though
pokvrosk and myrnohad were just lost by the AFU, Zelensky and his incompetent general staff are traitors
damn, pretty incompetent when they are able to hold off the send strongest army in the world for 4 years in the almost same place
We are losing land, men, and equipment daily. Our male population will never recover. Our politicians are already talking about importing Indians to replace them. How the fuck is that winning? Do you people actually care for Ukrainians or do you just dislike Russia?
It is rediditors, so the latter. I don't think these people give a shit beyond what fits into their paranoid and dogmatic delusions about the world. It's all larger than life hype shit westerners get to circlejerk about, with call of duty tier moral judgements (le West good, le democracy good, le Russians bad, le China bad), all the while their own countries are being swallowed up by corporations and are becoming right wing cleptocracies. Fuck caring for things that can actually be affected and addressed in my own life, there is this other conflict I know fuck all about that I need to feel really angry about to give my life meaning.
Most ukranians still don't want to hand Russia land they don't control, so we should support them on that decision.
As opposed to having more of our men die and then letting Russia have it anyways?
Russia will still take like an year and a half to get the rest of Donetsk at the current pace and it's unlikelly that Russia will keep this going for that long. If Ukraine just cedes to Russia's demands and gives them all of Donetsk without reliable security garantes from the US or Europe they will just be giving away their defensive lines for nothing, becoming very vulnerable to further agression in the proccess.
Good. Hold them for few another years, please.
A combined pre war population of ~100k. Not exactly major strategic objectives Ivan
How so?
... that's it? Pokrovsk lost, war is over?
Didn't russia straight up lose more men taking pokrovsk that they lost in the afghan war?
No? We haven't made any gains in two years while Russia is smoothing us down. None of us will know casualties until after the war but even if they did, they're still advancing while our men can barely get a regiment together because Zelensky needs another press tour or some shit
"Smoothing us down" and the frontline virtually hasn't moved an inch😭🙏
How many men have to die for McDonalds? An inch not moving is an indictment against us. I didnt vote for that.
"not moving an inch"
Do you think we just stare at each other for two months in Pokrovsk before deciding "Ok russia you can just take it now!"??
write back in 80 years when they'll reach Kyiv
USA is supporting Russia now. Things change
The US is supporting Russia by selling PAC-3 and ERAMs to Ukraine?
Trump just declared that Russia is no longer an unfriendly country, and he vowed to restore Russia's flow of oil. Why would he do that?
Actions speak louder than words of a known liar. And selling arms worth billions to Ukraine is a loud action.
Also the EU has no ground to speak on the flow of Russian oil, thats basically how we got here. And the EU didn't even get to keep the pipline.
The US gave Ukraine more support than any single country for 3 years, and after giving all of their old draw down gear (which is what actually kept Ukraine in the fight, videos of storm shadow make for cool propaganda, but 155mm cluster rounds and GMLRs are what hold the line.) And what do they get for it? Ungreatful Europeans depicting them as being on the same side as China, their primary adversary...
If we really have to do a star wars allegory, surely the third world is the rebels and the hegemonic world powers of china, usa, etc are the evil empire
Russia has always been an empire
That was the etc
Then just say Russia it was literally one of the biggest empires on the world for a century
glorious China, the country of freedom, totally not a totalitarian imperialist country! do you know why? because USA bad and some propaganda videos about flashy sky scrapers and children in cute outfits cooking food in school
Why is britain there ?
when was the last good thing they ever do after they stopped making good music ?
They support Ukraine and took in hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian refugees.
That’s actually massively based
Yeah until recently Britain was the biggest aid donor to Ukraine other then the USA and the combined EU.
Germany has since overtaken it in donations after finally authorising sending tanks, but Britain was sending those very early on. Also huge numbers of Ukrainian officers, pilots, etc are trained in the UK.
Tbh it's one of the few things that have made me proud of the UK in recent years.
It's also worth adding that the UK was often the first to cross Russia's lines in the sand over what equipment could be sent to Ukraine. Whilst the rest of Ukraine's allies were hesitant over Russian threats the UK pretty much always just ignored these and sent the equipment anyway. Arguably Britain's largest contribution to the war, even more so than the vast amount of equipment and training, has been shaming the rest of Ukraine's allies into contributing more.
They have been very big on supporting Ukraine tbf, and they are no longer in the EU, so I suppose if you are looking for 3 flags in each side, Britain is a decent choice
Hilarious but Europe & UK has always been American Vassals since WW2.
ohh noooo, developed democracies have a good ties? why would they do that?
When one democracy voluntarily enters into a defence pact with another group of democracies that’s actually vassalisation.
What’s funny is that the other side depicted here, namely China and Russia have not agreed alto defend each other. A few years ago Iran would have considered on their team. But they both stood back and did nothing as Isreal bombed it.
Can't tell if this is rage bait or if you ate too many paint chips as a kid lmao
Since when are America and China on the same team?
Are the Europeans okay?
Since they voted for diaper donnie as their leader.
The guy who started a trade war against China? Sure
He just gave them latest Nvidia chips for an opportunity to sell fucking soybeans
yeah, same guy, China is blackmailing him cause they have photos of him fucking kids with epstein
It’s Russia blackmailing him with Epstein Island photos get your facts right
Thought it was Israel.
It's pretty well known fact in higher circles that it's both.
That's why he is selling nvidia chips to them. He says one thing and do opossite but lots of people just listen to his yappin. Same thing with the files.
Europeans sure do think very highly of themselves in spite of their 500 year history of colonialism, war, g*nocide and exploitation don't they.
Yeah it’s a good thing America, china or Russia haven’t done any of those! 🫨
Oh trust me those countries do awful things all the time, however, framing Europe as the hero in this meme is beyond rich.
EU did not exist 500 years ago
You know we’re different countries, right? I’ve never heard of Czech or Polish colonialism in the last ~1,000 years of our history.
I feel like at best America is stood in the middle trying to decide which way to go
The country in an active trade war with China, that has given more aid to ukraine than everyone else combined, and the country with military bases across the EU acting as their guardians since they dont want to?
The country opposing Chinese expansion in the SCS and pacific?
The country that patrols the world's waters making them safer for all?
That US is in the middle?
What Crack are you smoking.
Haha I see your point, I completely agree that America has done more than anyone else combined, I suppose it’s more trump that is stuck in the middle, not America on the whole. The Kremlin literally said the other day that trumps foreign policy aligns with Russia’s goals, so that has to count for something?
Not to mention the US-endorsed peace plan that essentially just offered Russia everything they wanted, and then threatened Ukraine with a complete halt of aid if they didn’t accept? Okay, the US backed down, and they have indisputably done more than any other country, but it definitely looks like they are wavering - or at least the leadership is.
Trump's the one that started the trade war with china.
And wouldnt this be the exact thing to say to attempt to cause division?
The ukraine Russia thing i think was just trump trying to force a peace through any means, as america is getting tired of supporting the war, and public opinion is swaying against it slowly but surely, because why should we support a war in Europe when Europe itself is funding the aggreasors. Europe is refusing to step up and take responsibility for a crisis in their back yard. The fact that trump didnt force the plan through shows that he still wants ukraine to fight, but he also wants Europe to play a bigger part in it.
I mean, Russian airforce has breached EU airspace multiple times, cut sea cables for communication multiple times, and sent drones into EU airspace, and Europe can't even do the basic minimum of just not buying Russian energy, much less take an actual aggressive stance against Russian imperialism.
Hell Germany is closing down their own power plants.
If the EU were honest, they've been riding the US for so long they dont know how to take care of themselves. Nor do I think they want to. They want to posture they're so big and powerful, but everytime someone does something they dont like, the worst they do is speeches.
ur too old for epstein island bro they dont want u
Oh wow topical reference, cool burn. Bro.
You're so smart with that it definitely isn't a desperate cry for attention.
The opportunist piece of shit country that will do anything to consolidate it's power, yes that's the US
Would love to see how you guys fare in the cold war without us lmao.
Thats a funny way to say the protector of the free world, and the one country every european country relies on for defense.
US is the highest donner (sue to its size) but nowhere near morethen veryone else combined, the eu has donated atleast double
Wrong mate. The US aid is about 114 billion, between 2022 and 2025 with the EU all together only being 63.2 billion in rhe same time frame. If you take out Germany just by itself that drops to 41.9 billion
So in actual fact the US has donated double what the EU put together has.
The EU has PROMISED much more, but hasn't delivered, as their delivery would be reliant on unfreezing and donating Russian money.
Something they dont want to do while still being in business with russia.
Edit: forgot my source https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/?srsltid=AfmBOooCdR-WzobIZJNwAbei3Vyc7y5DnPXTEARTGP7o1I-frBmY1nAH
Sorry if a silly question, maybe I'm misunderstanding, why would you subtract the German contribution from the EU contribution? These are separate, one does not include the other, evidenced by the 0 military contributions from the EU. The combined contributions of the EU Commission and Council, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden and France is 118.75 billion.
You’re misunderstanding your own source - $63B is specifically from EU institutions I.e. not including donations from member states.
Also, see figures here to understand how the US contribution is dwarfed by Europe’s
US gives no aid to Ukraine since Trump took over. Selling is not aid.
Correct, but selling weapons to Ukraine (ones the US builds to deter China) isn't exactly the same as supporting Russia.
Having China and the US on the same team makes this not fun.
China and USA are NOT on the same side
Both are supporting Russia right now
Kyiv would be Russian without support from the US Also like 2/3rds of the us dod budget is for fighting china
I am not even denying that. Still facts of the matter are that Trump decide to go pro-russia. Blocking giving Ukraine frozen funds. Telling Ukraine to give Donbas away (it is the most hilly and fortified part of the Ukraine, if Russia gets it they will have much easier time conquering rest). Creating plans when Russia is incorporated into global economy and USA invest heavily.
Like why? It is not about US defence budget, not helping Russia will not cost you anything. Not to mention that some stuff given to Ukraine would be effectively money saver for Ukraine. Old military trucks that were designed to fight soviets and are mothballed in some random warehouse in Nebraska or whatever. It costs money to keep it functional and later to scrap it. This could be done for the transportation cost effectively.
Trump does nothing, he just does not want to help by a political decision
No trump just flip flops every other week my dude. One week Ukraine will give up the Donbas, the next they're getting tomahawks to hit Moscow.
We've also given up most of that draw down equipment and what Ukraine needs atm is high level (pac-3 intercepters and longrange cruise missiles) that the US builds to fight China.
It really alienates the average American when they see Europeans, who have continuosly not met NATO reqs say the US is on Russia and China's side, when we have done the most to counter Russia and are China's main military competition.
He is no longer flip-flopping lately, bro. Even American Security Strategy is welcomed by Russia:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvd01g2kwwo
I would not mind American not giving latest stuff in big quantities, it is understandable. But they are giving 0 stuff as of 2025. And they are actively sabotaging Ukraine by putting demands on the defenders instead of the agressor for some reason.
The same strategy that Russia welcome basically tells EU is should dismantle and spew some far-right BS. As you are talking about NATO commitements, I wonder what the average Dane is feelling, after losing the most soldiers per capita in Afghanistan only to be rewarded with US threats to take Greenland.
You have your point that EU could spend more on defence, but the current US foreign policy is just adversary towards Europe.
only because trump wasn't in power at the time. he is so Russian that he's putins bitch.
Under Trump the US approved the sale of other 3,000 cruise missiles to Ukraine, minding you the Germans have not sent a single one, and the UK doesn't have enough missiles to send a fourth of that.
cope harder
bot. are you in insofar, Pakistan or Russia?
Nothing complex about corrupt orange traitor
mfw I know nothing about geopolitics
In terms of land area, the US and China are tied for third behind Canada and Russia.
In terms of population, Russia barely breaks the top 10 while the US is in a distant third behind India and China.
If you’re using Britain and Europe pre-WW1, this balances out.
If you’re in literally any other point in history, this is laughably wrong and team Blue is getting dogwalked.
That said, some absolutely major shit is going down for the Pacific Allies to get back on the same team.
I would bet good money that whoever made this is from one of the Baltic states or Finland
Absolutely true. Russia's "peace demands" are a literal 1:1 with the terms of offered by the Mouth of Sauron at Morannon. So I don't know why they're comparing to Star Wars instead.
britain can stay in our club exclusively due to creating charlie xcx
As much as America is being a pariah state by threatening to invade Greenland and Venezuela, they're definitely not on the same side as China.
Ugh as an American I really wanna be on the EU and Ukraine side. Fuck Russia and China.
While both sides are led by nepotistic genocidal maniacs and some of them are famous for the list
Why nazis have blue lightsaber lol
Literally no country on the planet are "the good guys". Countries have their own interest 😭🙏
If this is really the Team then Europe will just get curbstomped
They are all evil and ran by pedophiles
Explain in harry potter terms please
Well the left side is absolutely toasted then lol
America and Japan just did a show of force towards China and Russia who invaded Japanese airspace. This is a child’s rendition.
Oh boy, Europe is fucked…
A Russia China and USA against eu up and Ukraine? China and the us can beat the other team by themselves they are couping
These people can't understand there being more than 2 sides to anything, and one side not being the Good Guys (tm) and tbf other side being the b Bad Guys (tm).
Even Star Wars makes fun of that by putting that exact thinking in the mouth of the villain. "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy."
I want everyone to lose
“Conquering a sovereign nation is complicated! Ignore which side is murdering and trafficking children!”
Usians in here are kinda butthurt xd
so jedi's are getting annihilated again? coz, you kno, if this happens, they have no chance at all.
So 2 Muslim Flags and Ukraine vs 3 super powers
empires. is it dishonesty or lack of self awareness?