I cannot believe I am making this post.

As many of you may have noticed, there has been an influx of people creating posts about the theory/headcanon of a trans Ralsei.

Now, typically, people would ideally be perfectly fine with these types of concepts and ideas. And have no issue with people theorizing or headcanon-ing these sort of things.

But this Reddit.

So, of course people are going to create issues out of absolute nonsense, that we then have to deal with. So I want to go ahead and clear things up!

First and foremost, yes. Ralsei is gender nonconforming. Ralsei has not been confirmed to be anything more than that. So it makes sense that people want to headcanon or even theorize on the potential of a narrative shift in the game/for their own set of stories or fictional realities. Ideally, this is meant to be done in fun; not with malicious intent. This doesn't mean they are "erasing" the existence of gender nonconforming individuals or anything of the sort.

This subreddit has been and always will be a safe space for individuals to talk about Ralsei.

With that being said, discussion on Ralsei being trans is allowed on the subreddit. Posts being made to complain about a trans Ralsei, or "transei discourse" will not be. You want to have polite, civil and non-hostile discussions, you can do so in the comments of posts that are explicitly opening up discussions of a trans Ralsei; not art posts.

With, that being said. We want to remind you all that transphobic remarks and posts will not be tolerated and will come with an instant permanent ban from the subreddit. Likewise, anyone breaking the 1st rule of the subreddit will also receive punishments.

Be nice to one another, it really isn't that hard. If you aren't capable of that much, then you can see yourself out of the subreddit!

Both canon and headcanon can exist on the subreddit. And people can make theories.

  • My headcanon is ralsei is ralsei

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    Absolutely outrageous. How could you!? This is so offensive towards the Ralsei is Papyrus theorists

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    Absolutely outrageous. How could you!? This is so offensive towards the Ralsei is Dess theorists

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    Always bet on Ralsei Knight

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    This reminds me of the Viva Riviera Jojo part 5 but really fast, where Trish is everyone.

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  • My headcanon is ralsei love's Mercedes-Benz

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    My headcannon is out of cannonballs

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  • This is unfortunately the second time the topic of Trans Ralsei became an issue and a mod had to step in. And the second time the mods did well handling it.

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    worse response than the first time

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    Well then, maybe asshats shouldn't be mean about a video game character that may or may not be cis or trans. Personally, I'm getting more and more pissed at transphobes

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    In what way? Genuinely, I joined recently and apparently there has been people commenting mean things about trans Ralsei head cannons, so could you (or anyone) tell me how I can find the previous response and how this one was worse?

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  • Not a fan of trans Ralsei theory, but im happy that people are free to talk about their ideas and headcanons . Maybe mods can add "trans Ralsei discussion" post flair , or smth.

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    Yeah I don't like the mtf ralsei thing personally but I don't mind if other people like that

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    Yeah I don't like it especially as a theory but all the drama about it is so unnecessary, everyone has their own headcanons

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    this is so real!

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    I find ftm or some other type of thing where he's like "well I'm the 'prince' from the dark, better fulfil my role" to be a more compelling notion re: storytelling; having society choose your gender role is bad enough, imagine having it prophecied

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  • Wasn't there a similar situation to this in late august?

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  • Ive never minded that people talk about a trans ralsei, ive always just seen them as male because thats Canon. Idc what other people come up with, I care about how people get really mad at those ideas and cause all kinds of problems because of it.

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  • Only headcanon I have is that Ralsei is the goat

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  • First of all, W mods.

    Second of all, I think a lot of people misunderstand what trans Ralsei is about. It's not necessarily about him being gender non-conforming, even if it is a part of it -- but it's more about his journey throughout the story, not knowing what being "Ralsei-like" is and struggling with "not being real/important" that I feel like hammer close to home for a lot of trans people.

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    This, Ralsei being somewhat feminine is only really the surface level for the headcanon. Then theres the themes of the story; breaking free free of the prophecy and becoming his own self. But most importantly, it's mostly (I'd almost hazard to say completely) trans people making the headcanon because they relate to the character, they can see parts of themselves and their journey in the character.

    ...and then you just see people deriding the idea as "erasing femboys," a refrain that is constantly used to critique the idea of any character being transfem (see Bridget from Guilty Gear), or that the headcanon is bad, or even offensive because we're pidgeonholing any feminine man as trans.

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    yeah tho with bridget its canon that shes trans so i think its a bit different because it was people just denying the developers words in favour of their own agenda while with ralsei its mostly fan theorizing and self-relation to his journey

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    Its disturbing how ready random cis people are to tell trans people that they’re stereotyping themselves also, like, wtf?

    Ngl I hate Reddit sometimes

    And by sometimes…

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    Haha let’s just say

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    I mean with Bridget it kinda goes against their whole story and is a slap in the face for people who found it relatable or inspiring, I think it’s kind of a valid complaint considering characters like that feel kinda rare and if they wanted trans representation they could have, y’know, made a trans character. Instead they decided to take the most low-effort “what if femboy/GNC male was actually trans” route and took away something people cared about to create… questionable trans rep if you actually look to closely at it.

    At least trans Ralsei is just a theory, with Bridget they actually did erase a GNC male character for the sake of trans representation.

    It’s nothing against trans people or characters, it’s being frustrated that instead of putting in effort and making a good trans character they put in minimal effort and took something away in the process.

    Of course there’s also people who just complain about it because trans but that’s its own thing separate from the topic at hand.

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    The dev said Bridget was trans, so she is trans. I really don't see how someone can complain about this.

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    The same way people complain about any decision about a character’s character or any other writing choice in a game. You’re saying that someone can’t complain about writing decisions in a game because the devs said it was that way…

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    If you find a decision about a game bad, even if you scream your lungs out, it's more than likely that the devs behind said game won't listen.

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    I never said they would or should. That’s something you’re just bringing up that’s completely disconnected from what I said. I said I think the decision is dumb and bad for a handful of reasons, I never said anything about the devs hearing or acting on such.

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    You’re saying that someone can’t complain about writing decisions in a game because the devs said it was that way

    Complain if you want, just know you'll probably never be heard by the devs.

    Logically, what can you achieve by complaining?

    If it's getting something changed, most of the time, even with a major part of the community, it doesn't work.

    You can change other people's opinion and create a movement this way, however, as I said, this will probably not achieve much.

    So what can you do if complaining is off the table?

    1/ ignore this specific info/part of the game

    2/ mod it out of existence/, you have hands and a brain, so if you REALLY hate this or that decision, then do something idk.

    3/ just create your own head cannon where this or that never existed

    4/ use the power of drawing and imagination the same way people draw trans Ralsei.

     That’s something you’re just bringing up that’s completely disconnected from what I said

    I explained here why I think complaining online is not going to get you anywhere and why I consider it useless.

    If you want another thing to connect both of our comments: we're talking about complaining.

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    Again though, by this logic no one should complain about anything in games ever. Do you go around on every post you see of people complaining about things in games telling them you don’t see how anyone can complain about this, or is this one special for some reason?

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    If the devs have already listened to criticism, then I see why you would complain,

    However if the devs don't listen then it's going to take more than comments on reddit to make even the smallest of change.

    In the second scenario, there are more efficient ways to get a reaction from the devs, such as boycotting: if they won't listen to you then attack their wallet.

    However if your criticism is just saying "this bad" then yes, please do not add another comment to the pile of hate anyone making their presence known online gets.

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    Nothing about Bridget's previous non-conformity is erased by her being trans. Quite the contrary. And a trans woman originally raised as a girl, who rejects this to try living as her ASAB, who then changes her mind and starts living as a woman on her own terms, is a far more interesting direction for her character than the cis femboy alternative.

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  • Ralsei is cute, that's all I need to know

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  • I hate that people need to be told this, shouldn't it be normal to treat people well?

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  • I headcannon ralsei is krissexual

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    kralsei supremacy 👀

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  • LOL I just saw the mods took down a post talking about Trans Ralsei. Reddit is indeed Reddit in this case.

    Just love Ralsei, everyone. It doesn’t matter if he’s trans or cis, Ralsei is Ralsei. And I love Ralsei :3

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    FR! Trans Ralsei isn't some form of "correction", like it has to be done. It's a harmless headcanon! It's free and easy to disagree with a headcanon and leave it simply like that.

    It's why I find some of these backhanded Trans Ralsei hate posts so iffy even when I, myself, likes Ralsei more as a feminine boy. Like, I could headcanon Ralsei as a gunslinger badass and I guarantee you it will not get hate like Trans Ralsei does. Yet it's the same deal, it's a headcanon. NOT CANON. Why does trans specifically have to be the issue. Simple answer is probably just transphobia unfortunately.

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    LITERALLY it is more effort to make an entire ass post about it and find some image and type a paragraph than just… scroll past it??? I love Ralsei as a noncomforming boy, and honestly I think it’s his best representation - not just cause it’s “canon”, but because we desperately need portrayals of boys like this in media imo.

    However, I’m never NOT gonna like a FemRalsei post. Not only is it great seeing everyone’s interpretations and art styles, I just LOVE Ralsei and the pure creativity that comes with him, and any fandom.

    Fluffy boy is fluffy, Fluffy girl is fluffy :3

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    Transmasc ralsei is also based

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    Transmasc Ralsei is based as hell

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    Simple answer is probably just transphobia unfortunately

    For some people that's the case, but others simply don't like the notion that anyone who is feminine must be a woman.

    Not everyone who believes in trans Ralsei believes in that notion but I've seen a few who insists that's the case.

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    In that case people need to learn that a femboy isn't always an egg (some are, but not all)

    Maybe getting rid of gender stereotypes (or minimizing them) might help, just saying

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    This. Not agreeing with hating on the posts and such of course but some people are just sore with the growing sentiment that feminine boys are just “eggs,” as they say.

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    ralsei is ralsei, now everyone shutup

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  • Ok pause hold on, ralsei is only gender non conforming because he’s a feminine man. He’s called a prince, uses he/him, etc.

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    People moreso see parallels between Ralsei's journey of self discovery and their own trans journeys. I am personally not a fan of the head canon, but I can see the logic.

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    I mean that’s fair, I’m trans, I just don’t see it.

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    I am and I do, its a matter of opinion

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    I get it. I'm nonbinary, and I can't help but to see parallels to cis people assuming that Kris is a boy. I think the social context is very much different, but I think part of becoming a more good faith and intelligent interpreter of narratives is basing our speculation on what the text says. Ralsei can be a cis boy and still have a self discovery journey. I could even see Ralsei becoming more feminine, embracing his identity and leaning into his feminine-coded presentation. But it doesn't necessitate him being trans. Rather, I think the most honest thing to do is to find kinship with Ralsei apart from one's transgender identity. As long as people don't literally subscribe to it, I think it's okay.

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  • I’m just here for the wonderful discussion and art of Ralsei. Afterall, the subs’ whole purpose appreciation for the fluffy boy. Can’t imagine being hateful for more of’em.

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  • Screw Prince Ralsei, I want KING Ralsei. We need to draw him developing the confidence to actually lead the currently aimless subjects that have gathered in Castle Town.

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  • My head cannon is that ralsei is a die hard femboy

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  • I always thought he wanted to transition from darkner to lightner.

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    If only we could ditch Kris and put the soul in Ralsei, like Spamton's plan to reach heaven.

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  • I don't understand what's so bad about having a headcanon for a fictional character i like headcanoning tralsei and I don't get the big deal it's not like I say he is 100% trans its more of i like to think he could be trans representation even if he isnt trans (canonically)

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  • Yeah... I personally don't agree with it (and think it's a little silly) but like. girl just be normal. people can have different opinions than you on the internet about a fictional character it's fine

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  • femboy

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    We love femboys in this establishment

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    Why not both? Genderfluid Rals headcanon -w-

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    Why are people downvoting this? Genderfluid Ralsei is a based take.

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  • "Don't give birth in discord VC" ass post ToT

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  • Trans rights are human rights! So if people want to make art of one of my comfort characters being trans, that’s okay with me!

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  • No offense but isnt ralsei literally referred to as male multiple times? As well as being the 'Prince' of the darkness kingdom

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    trans men exist

    you can also draw characters as a different gender for fun and practice

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    Understandable

    Doesnt exactly seem like there was any cases of transition in deltarune, nothing exactly hinting to that

    Or im probably just not game theory levels of crazy enough to analyse every bit of dialogue

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  • Thank you for speaking up about this! It's important that this remains a nonjudgemental space for all trans people!!! Binary, nonconforming, or otherwise!

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  • You dislike trans ralsei because you're transphobic

    I dislike trans ralsei because it feels like you're conforming his non conformity to being a woman.

    When I think that sort of defeats the purpose in the idea that ralsei is a prince who simply likes to present femininely without needing to fall into the box you would assign those feminine attributes.

    We are not the same.

    (but please, do as you'd like. This is after all, only an opinion, I will never tell not to think what you do, but that I just personally dislike the idea)

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    Nobody is headcanoning ralsei as trans because he's gender nonconforming, it's a part of it sure but its mostly because of all of his struggles with identity and his own importance.

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    Exactly, Ralsei's arc of repressing his identity because of an all consuming prophecy that details exactly who he has to be and braking free of that expectation to become his own person is incredibly trans-coded, regardless of if he ends up being canonically trans or not

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    Being a sentient toy (or whatever his light world form is) comes with an identity crisis

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    The idea isnt that ralsei is feminine thefore a woman

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    it feels like you're conforming his non conformity to being a woman.

    A gentle reminder that that, whether you intended it as such or not(and I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter), is standard transphobic rhetoric. Like look at how the likes of Vivian from Paper Mario or Bridget from Guilty Gear(both these examples are characters who explictly refer to themselves as girls.) have their transness erased under the idea that they're actually femboys. Look at TERFs complaining about how tomboys and lesbians are supposedly transitioning en masse, and equating transition to conversion therapy under the blatantly false premise that trans people existing enforces heteronormativity and toxic gender norms. People who openly loathe gender non-conformity of any kind, will gladly ask a trans person why they can't "just be a feminine man/masculine woman"(regardless of their actual presentation.).

    If a character who presents as GNC later comes out as trans, that does not erase their prior non-conformity.

    And transfem!Ralsei doesn't have anything to do with his feminine presentation, and equally importantly also doesn't imply he'd be a woman(especially not a binary woman), it can just as easily be him being a transfem enby, and even the "transfem" part of "transfem enby" is optional, him rejecting the role of "Prince" for trans reasons is more important than him literally being specifically transfem. This criticism of the theory/headcanon is ultimately just a total non-issue whether or not it was made in good faith.

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    Well I'd like to think myself a not transphobic person, and I apologize if the rhetoric made me come off as such, but one thing I don't agree with is the notion that assuming I would transplant the idea of "Why can't men be feminine" to a fictional character who's gender identity is probably less important in the grand scheme of the narrative being told, to people who have already transitioned or any sort of real world example?

    Thats telling people who they are when they've already decided, my point im trying to get is "Let he, she, or whomever decide for themselves" I guess.

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  • some people watched the 10th anniversary stream with their ears plugged huh.

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  • My opinion, but I don't think he's trans because..

    Just because he's feminine, doesn't make him trans. There's lots of feminine boys that aren't trans

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    That isn't what Transei theory is. It's more about how Ralsei has been finding out what it's like to be "Ralsei-like", and that journey of self-discovery resonates with a lot of trans people.

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    my opinion

    uses reasoning

    opinions can have logic behind them, but that happens subconsciously, you dont come to them through reasoning

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  • I feel like some people take this hate too far. It’s just a silly head cannon.

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  • The worse thing is when someone wants force their own headcanon on others like it was only one true reinterpretation or something… it’s just immature, deltarune never was direct about many topics just to people make fun theories, not to divide people goddamn. I personally don’t like this theory but if someone likes it and that’s their headcanon… I’m cool with that, different opinions makes us different people and that is beautiful. With that being said, W mods

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    But that's what both sides are doing too. If anything they're both as guilty.

    I've seen people say "ralsei is definitely cis, not a femboy, doesn't wear a dress etc".

    And then I've seen people insist that "ralsei is trans, ralsei doesn't identify as a male"

    Both of those examples go against evidence from the game, and honestly I think people on both sides need to stop pretending their theories are fact. No theory is a fact.

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    Yeah, it's kinda ironic when one of the morals of the game is literally kindness and acceptance yet most people I see in this fandom can't even uphold those values.

    Then again this was the fandom that literally poisoned someone with cookies over a video game so, I don't really know what else to expect lol.

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    Glad someone agrees with me, I've been saying this the whole time but I just get slandered.

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    We living in a society

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    Yeah I guess so. Honestly never really had this level of hostility with any other fandom.

    I don't mean to be "one of those guys" but as far as negative experiences go, undertale and deltarune fandoms take the cake for me.

    I've seen alot of arguments here aswell like I said, which is kind of shameful because ralsei is a character that doesn't align with that sort of stuff.

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  • TRANS RIGHTS! It doesn't matter how hard bigots try to silence and spread their phobia. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS

    TRANS PPL MATTER!

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  • very well said. I don't care what anyone makes, it's all FAN CONTENT. the only thing that pisses me off is people complaining about the fan content, and hardly ever about anything in the actual stuff. headcanon what you want, draw what you want, make your own fanfics. whatever you want, show your creativity and I'm always excited to see it. it's crazy we have to have a talk about people getting transphobic over a headcanon of all things, like if it really bothers you that much you can just ignore it. it won't affect Deltarune at large nor the community

    I'm not a headcanon person, I'm more of an art person, but it's all in the same vein. we all like Deltarune, we're all showing our love for the game and story, and the way we do it shouldn't matter. play, conceptualize, and generally enjoy the game the way you want/have to. doing so will at least further my agenda of having cute and awesome fanart and other works

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  • Real ralsey fans have no beef with tralsey... Don't pit 2 goats against each other

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  • Isn't saying that someone is trans simply because they don't act like a "proper" man/women — transphobic?

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    Not transphobia, but also not great.

    But Transei theory isn't because Ralsei is a femme-presenting male. It's because of Ralsei's journey of self discovery throughout Deltarune, that resonates with a lot of trans people

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    that's literally not what the theory is saying.

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    It's saying that "his story arc is similar to a trans person's journey", but that's literally how every journey works, so the only actual arguments are people projecting their experience and people who assume it based on the fact that he's a boy with traditionally feminine traits.

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    Uh, what?

    How is every journey similar to trans experiences?

    You can't just say bullshit and think you're making a proper argument.

    It's a lot deeper than just "projecting", maybe consider actually engaging with the head canon in good faith instead of immediately hating on it.

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  • I think at the end of the day people will need to accept depicting Ralsei as female, trans, in good faith as typical fan theoreticals and not a critique/"correction" of the character provided the art was actually done in good faith.

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  • idk what it is abt trans headcanon specifically that makes people go so insane

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    Transphobia :3

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    Ït’s äctüällÿ bëcäüsë pëöplë dön’t lïkë ït whën yöü ïnsïst ä böy ïs tränsfëm jüst bëcaüsë hë’s fëmïnïnë

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    That's not the reason, transphobe.

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    Ï äm nöt ä tränsphöbë

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    Then stop pushing that lie that Transei theory is just because Ralsei acts feminine.

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    Ï knöw thë öthër rëäsöns, Ï äm jüst säyïng whÿ öthër pëöplë hätë ït

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    Probably because it's no different to AMAB/AFAB Kris headcanons, or trans Susie headcanons, but I've seen people get hate for those.

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  • Femboys and trans people are in the same group. No need to start infighting. While he is canonically a femboy (at least until proven otherwise in later chapters), the headcanon is perfectly understandable to have.

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  • Why’s it such a big deal? I personally don’t like the idea of trans Ralsei but I also believe that people should be allowed to interpret the character however they want.

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  • Be nice to each other. Stong line.

    Very much the solution to so many problems.

    And yet humans are kinda really bad at it.

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  • Love yall, as a guy who made a trans Ralsei post I didn’t expect to do as well as it did

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  • Some people are STILL getting way to heated over this.

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  • Trans Ralsei theorists are setting themselves up for disappointment when the final chapter comes out and he's still a boy. Ralsei doesn't care about his gender at all.

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  • Not a fan of that stuff at all but I consider this a win for free speech's sake

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  • Gender non conforming? How?

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  • I am happy when Ralsei is happy

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  • I like that there’s femboy representation in media so I’m not a fan personally. But it shouldn’t be a huge deal

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  • “A PRINCE of the dark”

    “The power of fluffy BOYS shines within you.”

    “Toothpaste BOY”

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    Doesn't prove anything. A closeted trans girl can be referred to with masuline pronouns and still be a closeted trans girl.

    Or Ralsei could have just not figured out they're trans yet at all, and it will happen in future chapters.

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    fair point but then again he shows no discontent with he/him being used on him (i am a trans person but i dot agree with the person you were orginally replying to)

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  • I just don’t get it, there is no talk on anything that he’s trans. He’s a guy, a boy, a male. I’m not saying this to be mean, this is just factual information in game on that’s what he is. He considers himself as a prince. Pretty sure Susie also has used he/him on him before and to really top it all off Lancer calls him toothpaste BOY. BOY is in that nickname, ok?

    Another thing I want to say is I am not trying to be transphobic nor am I transphobic, I’m just pointing out the factual information on what he is in game. Unless Ralsei himself says he’s thinking about being trans, maybe there’s like trans things in his room or trans talk in the game, or even the man himself, Toby Fox, says that he’s trans, then he is trans.

    If your headcanon on Ralsei is that he’s trans, that’s fine, if you want to tell other people that hes trans, that’s fine, but if you want to tell people and put it online that he is actually trans and you push that into other people’s heads that’s not fucking fine. I just had to put this out there as I don’t even know why this had to be a discussion, but here we are.

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    Someone can be referred to by male pronouns and still be a closeted trans girl at the same time.

    Also, trans people exist and we will be putting ourselves out there in online spaces, and you're just going to have to deal with it.

    We won't hide ourselves just because you don't want us in your head.

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    isn’t boy(he’s called a fluffy boy) a noun? thats not pronouns like he same with prince which is also a noun, though you could say it’s becoming gender neutral. i dont mind trans people but i dont get the tralsei headcanon other than him being feminine. maybe its media literacy but its fine as a head canon i dont see why we’re pushing it to be canon.

    also i dont think people who dont want trans people in there head would enjoy deltarune, maybe im outdated but is enby/nonbinary not a whole umbrella in trans community? kris is stated to be that.

    but for now its a headcanon not anything more. And maybe im just unlucky but i saw like a post with ralsei with with his glasses off and the OP said tralsei must be true just because ralsei looked feminine, could’ve been a joke but thats my pet peeve with the theory not that everyone thinks that just the first thing i remember.

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    Yeah all I’m saying it’s just a head canon and I’m speaking off the facts of the game until anything else is proven otherwise, thank you for actually understanding and talking about Ralsei, the person we’re discussing instead of us apparently talking about not liking trans people. (?)

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    See and I didn’t know that, that’s on me and I apologize if that sounded offensive but again, no evidence into Ralsei being trans, that is all I was talking about. If you believe that personally or you see it that way that’s your view, I don’t personally see it because not everything needs to have a trans meaning behind it.

    Not saying trans people shouldn’t exist, nor should they not be posting online, trans people are still human and they are allowed to speak their mind as anybody should, I personally believe you’re taking it too far into what I was talking about which was just a video game character not being factually trans, but again if you want to see it that way, that’s fine.

    You do you, I have no problem against you, this is just my talking on Ralsei not being canonically trans, not actual Ill speaking on the trans community, sorry you saw it that way.

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  • Ralsei's gender is fuzzy

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  • Can people just stop focusing on criticizing eachother's theories? If you don't like it, just move along, Deltarune is a heavy theory game, if you headcanon Ralsei as cis, so be it. If he is trans, so be it. If he is femboy, so be it.

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  • soooo Prince doesn't imply Male?

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    can you people be normal for one day

    did you read the post at all or do you just want to continue being ignorant for no good reason over a headcanon

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    i am being normal,normal people look at the word prince and think "oh a brave man"

    i have no headcanon

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    Well no, it implies man. A trans man can be a prince.

    That being said, its specifically the prophecy calling Ralsei a "prince" what allows him to subvert the prophecy by realizing hes actually not a prince

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    Uhhh... Not to question your capabilities of understanding text... But... Really? Yes, of course the prophecy hasnt been changed yet, thats why Ralsei being trans is a PREDICTION, because its something people think its GOING TO HAPPEN.

    but it can't just be completely incorrect about an objective fact in the first place,

    Do you realize how dumb this sounds? Youre literally saying that you believe that EVERYTHING the prophecy says is going to happen, in other words, that it CANNOT BE SUBVERTED. Because the moment something is changed a little bit, IT STOPS BEING OBJECTIVELY TRUE. You cannot be partially incorrect about facts, thats not a thing, its what makes it different from subjectivity and opinions.

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    as of right now the prophecy hasn't been and can't be changed yet.

    Which is literally a massive part of the point. Ralsei rejecting the role of Prince in favour of being a Princess or Princet as a means of breaking the prophecy. Ralsei forming an identity independently of the one he's built entirely around the very prophecy he ultimately seeks to defy.

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    Two things:

    One, I personally believe the prophecy has already been broken with the whole "the queen's chariot cannot be stopped" thing being completely wrong because queen's car did in fact stop

    Two, if Ralsei was trans, then coming out would quite probably be a key story beat where it's revealed that the prophecy is completely irrelevant and never unbreakable because it was wrong about Ralsei's gender the whole time, and if it was wrong about that what's to say it wasn't wrong about everything

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    ̶S̶o̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶w̶e̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶d̶o̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶S̶u̶s̶i̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶K̶r̶i̶s̶.̶ ̶O̶r̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶R̶a̶l̶s̶e̶i̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶s̶i̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶f̶e̶m̶i̶n̶i̶n̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶y̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶o̶w̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶e̶x̶i̶s̶t̶?̶ ̶W̶h̶y̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶R̶a̶l̶s̶e̶i̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶o̶w̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶m̶i̶s̶g̶e̶n̶d̶e̶r̶e̶d̶?̶ ̶I̶t̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶m̶s̶ ̶r̶u̶d̶e̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶n̶o̶u̶n̶s̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶n̶s̶ ̶h̶e̶a̶d̶c̶a̶n̶o̶n̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶N̶o̶e̶l̶l̶e̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶g̶o̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶m̶a̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶f̶e̶m̶a̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶k̶e̶e̶p̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶r̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶n̶o̶u̶n̶s̶.̶

    Feel free to downvote this wrong comment.

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    That is a whole lot of words you're putting in my mouth there. Trying to make me play Chubby Bunny with all those words but I'm not engaging with that, the words taste suspiciously like straw and men and I don't particularly enjoy having either of those things in my mouth.

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    Then my apologies for being rude. We shall not discuss anything else if you don't want to.

    I did some more research, and I think I must be in the wrong.

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    A closeted trans girl can be referred to with male pronouns by people who don't know

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    Since you love the dictionary so much, I think you should look up what the word "trans" means.

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  • is ralsei gender nonconforming?? i thought the only definitive statement was that he was, well, a prince

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    He currently identifies as male but generally subverts the typical expectations of a man to be strong and masculine at almost every turn though his actions, character and presentation, meaning he is considered gender nonconforming because he doesn't conform with the expectations for his gender

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  • This game is literally amazing for gender expression Kris- Androgynous presentation Susie- more Masculine presentation in a girl Ralsei- More feminine presentation in a male Noelle- Typical feminine presentation Birdly- Typical masculine presentation

    So on and so forth, no idea why people would claim its erasing or taking away from any gender expression

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    I think the discourse is because the head canon conflicts with their own head canon.

    Let's say Person A head canons Ralsei to be a regular fluffy boy who likes feminine things. Then Person B comes in and passionately declares Ralsei to be MtF.

    Then loads of other people chime in and support that and Person A feels like they're being personally attacked and needs to make rebuttal comment under the post.

    So it's possible it's not transphobia here, just head canons conflicting with each other.

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  • ralsei is some kind of goat thing and goat things famously have no concept of gender. i have never played deltarune

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  • Mods willing to speak up on this but not on issues related to political discussions taking place and ignoring users on multiple occasions.

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  • Ralsei is fav goat nothing else

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  • Sudden wall of text.

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  • Ok

    But are they driving a Mercedes-Benz

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  • never ask mtf ralsei fans their opinion on ftm ralsei 🚬

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    Mtf ralsei fan here and I love ftm ralsei

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    Literally making up an problem here lol.

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    Bro's just saying random shit

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    (I know you said to never ask, but I personally think both are cool, and while I personally relate more to MtF tralsei (for somewhat obvious reasons) I love FtM Ralsei too and wish I could find more stuff about it)

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    hi,

    the first one was deleted because it was posted by a bot and unsourced

    the second one was deleted because it was too aggressive, stoking the fires of the debate

    you can still post tralsei... i still want to see more tralsei art and whatnot, just needs to not be posted by bots and not trying to cause arguments...

    thanks

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    You label literally everyone as transphobic lmao

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