Given that the 5th, 6th, 8th, and the 9th have upheld the Hughes Amendment, we have more work to do on machine guns besides more pressing items like semi-autos (NFA and non-NFA), cans, and magazines. We need to work on making the public opinion favorable to full autos.
Sure, but realistically that isn't going to happen. The only way we get MGs back is through the courts. No level of public enthusiasm is going to lead to politicians legalizing them.
Yet I’ve seen a judge not prosecute a convicted felon for possession of a switch in New York City and Matt Hoover go to prison for a drawing of something that looks like a lighting link that did not even work. To hell with these unconstitutional gun laws that the traitors that support and enforce them. Katrina, Waco and Ruby Ridge are how gun laws in this country will be enforced by the Democrats ATF.
Can we start with illegal restrictions on rifles and magazines first? I feel like those are so blatantly unconstitutional that we should be focused on that
As a Veteran soldier, it was very rare that I used full auto on my rifle if you actually wanted to hit a target. The only time we used full auto was to keep the enemy down so we could move positions.
As a civilian, I have no desire to shoot full auto.
I am not saying we should not have it. The 2nd is clear, 'shall not infringe'. But let's get these bans settled and then go after the tough sell items.
If anyone is actually surprised by this, you aren't living in reality.
You can stomp and scream about "muh second amendment" all you want and point out how it's an individual right and an absolute one at that based strictly on its text, but to do that is to continue living in fantasy land.
The awful, short truth is this: it doesn't matter. It never did. Courts have come up with all kinds of reasons that certain rights, not just the second, totally really have limits even though the constitution doesn't specify any because... magical fairy dust?
That magical fairy dust is public opinion combined with the governments lust for power. If the government thinks it has the political capital to take more power for itself, it will.
That political capital comes from public opinion, and, like it or not, courts are beholden to it as well.
When your average citizen gets their gun information from shows like CSI and Brooklyn Nine-Nine and wonders what they need to do to get a gun "in their name" when a family member dies and leaves one to them, it doesn't take a genius to see that machine guns are absurdly far removed from public consciousness, and by extension to realize that there is no political capital for repealing the Hughes Amendment. (or the NFA as a whole, for that matter)
That applies to Congress, to the courts, to the ATF and everyone in-between. It would be career suicide for any of them to even suggest it, and that will never change.
"Firearms held by police and military entities are irrelevant to the “common use” inquiry."
WHAT??? This is precisely what the second amendment is about.
I personally think that if it can be shown that such a weapon is used by ANY military US or otherwise, that would deem it protected / common use IMO.
2a isn't just self-defense, it's about people defending itself from the STATE.
If the STATE has those weapons, but civilians do not, how could the second amendment make ANY sense.
We have to remember that the NFA has only ever been defended on the grounds that it is a tax, it's not based on the idea that weapon classes are bannable AT ALL.
PS. On a side note, look at the entire world, machineguns are likely the most common firearm type in ACTUAL use.
The entire body of 2A gun jurisprudence, in practice, is going in the wrong direction. it may be hard to visualize if you were in a gun friendly state, but if you’re not, Bruen isn’t being upheld or applied properly and the DOJ isn’t taking any meaningful action to reverse course. This doesn’t portend well for the future and something needs to change fast.
Given that the 5th, 6th, 8th, and the 9th have upheld the Hughes Amendment, we have more work to do on machine guns besides more pressing items like semi-autos (NFA and non-NFA), cans, and magazines. We need to work on making the public opinion favorable to full autos.
Sure, but realistically that isn't going to happen. The only way we get MGs back is through the courts. No level of public enthusiasm is going to lead to politicians legalizing them.
Well, the criminals already brought these up in the courts. Sadly, most of them are not the kind of people to root for
Many of the important rulings for citizens' rights come from cases in defense of despicable people, though.
Yet I’ve seen a judge not prosecute a convicted felon for possession of a switch in New York City and Matt Hoover go to prison for a drawing of something that looks like a lighting link that did not even work. To hell with these unconstitutional gun laws that the traitors that support and enforce them. Katrina, Waco and Ruby Ridge are how gun laws in this country will be enforced by the Democrats ATF.
Wait, so court opinions are mainly based on public opinion and justices not ruffling too many feathers?
Can we start with illegal restrictions on rifles and magazines first? I feel like those are so blatantly unconstitutional that we should be focused on that
Yes, these are more in our favor. The Overton window on machine guns isn’t in our favor yet
Yes please
As a Veteran soldier, it was very rare that I used full auto on my rifle if you actually wanted to hit a target. The only time we used full auto was to keep the enemy down so we could move positions.
As a civilian, I have no desire to shoot full auto.
I am not saying we should not have it. The 2nd is clear, 'shall not infringe'. But let's get these bans settled and then go after the tough sell items.
Honestly, the only real reason I’d have for full auto is “loud noise fast, monkey brain happy”
TIL: we need a reason.
Not a reason to be able to own, I meant a reason for me to actually want to spend money on one
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If anyone is actually surprised by this, you aren't living in reality.
You can stomp and scream about "muh second amendment" all you want and point out how it's an individual right and an absolute one at that based strictly on its text, but to do that is to continue living in fantasy land.
The awful, short truth is this: it doesn't matter. It never did. Courts have come up with all kinds of reasons that certain rights, not just the second, totally really have limits even though the constitution doesn't specify any because... magical fairy dust?
That magical fairy dust is public opinion combined with the governments lust for power. If the government thinks it has the political capital to take more power for itself, it will.
That political capital comes from public opinion, and, like it or not, courts are beholden to it as well.
When your average citizen gets their gun information from shows like CSI and Brooklyn Nine-Nine and wonders what they need to do to get a gun "in their name" when a family member dies and leaves one to them, it doesn't take a genius to see that machine guns are absurdly far removed from public consciousness, and by extension to realize that there is no political capital for repealing the Hughes Amendment. (or the NFA as a whole, for that matter)
That applies to Congress, to the courts, to the ATF and everyone in-between. It would be career suicide for any of them to even suggest it, and that will never change.
My eye popping highlight.
"Firearms held by police and military entities are irrelevant to the “common use” inquiry."
WHAT??? This is precisely what the second amendment is about.
I personally think that if it can be shown that such a weapon is used by ANY military US or otherwise, that would deem it protected / common use IMO.
2a isn't just self-defense, it's about people defending itself from the STATE.
If the STATE has those weapons, but civilians do not, how could the second amendment make ANY sense.
We have to remember that the NFA has only ever been defended on the grounds that it is a tax, it's not based on the idea that weapon classes are bannable AT ALL.
PS. On a side note, look at the entire world, machineguns are likely the most common firearm type in ACTUAL use.
The entire body of 2A gun jurisprudence, in practice, is going in the wrong direction. it may be hard to visualize if you were in a gun friendly state, but if you’re not, Bruen isn’t being upheld or applied properly and the DOJ isn’t taking any meaningful action to reverse course. This doesn’t portend well for the future and something needs to change fast.