I was in the thread on that. Only half seemed to be shock and the other half were telling them "I told you so". There was one person in there still insisting on writing in to the dems to get them to change their minds despite the fact that a few years ago on lobby day when massive numbers of gun owners lawfully and peaceably assembled to protest gun control the Dems passed restrictions on protests near the legislature. The Dem leadership just does not care about gun rights and is actively malicious towards gun rights.
NC will likely be facing the same laws within as little as a year. They have it far worse than we do with the number of northerner liberals moving there. Fortunately they mostly do not want to move to WVA. Also, in the event these laws pass and don't get challenged, if you live on a border county, maybe talk to your county representatives about having a vote to have the county leave VA and join WVA.
Yeah it really sucks and really legitamately upsets me. Yankee vassal state no matter how much oldschool VA culture still lives in places like SWVA, The Valley and Southside VA. Nowhere else is home and I had family fighting the revolution here but I give it 5ish years and if I see no improvements its WV or East TN for me. Probably close to the border so I can still be near family
Ironically they will vote for these ban bills with law enforcement exemptions and in the same breath complain about a law enforcement agency killing a citizen with a banned gun or magazine
Here's the process based on watching all the crap that CA passes wind its way through the courts:
Step 1: File a case in Federal District Court (FDC) claiming the new law infringes on the 2A. At the same time, file for an injunction to prevent the law from going into effect. The injunction is almost never granted.
Step 2: After the FDC ruling, the losing party will file a petition for review to the Circuit Court of Appeals (CCA) and file for an injunction to stay the FDC's ruling. History has shown that if the FDC's ruling is pro-2A, the injunction request will probably be granted. If the FDC's ruling is for the State (anti-2A), it will probably be denied. The CCA will hear the case and make a ruling. The losing party can appeal the decision to be heard "en banc". En banc is a French legal term meaning "on the bench," referring to a session where all the judges of an appeals court rehear the case, rather than just the initial panel. If the CCA agrees to hear the case en banc, then step 2 is repeated with a larger panel.
Step 3: After the CCA ruling and an en banc refusal, or after the en banc decision, the losing party will file an injunction request on the CCA's ruling (see step 2 for probable ruling on the injunction request) and petition SCOTUS for a writ of certiorari (WoC). A WoC is a legal order from a higher court to a lower court to send up its records for review, and it is the primary way the U.S. Supreme Court selects cases to hear. Granting a WoC is a discretionary process, meaning the Supreme Court can decline to hear the case and let the CCA ruling stand. If SCOTUS chooses to hear the case, oral arguments are presented and SCOTUS will (eventually) release a ruling. SCOTUS's word is final; there is nowhere left to appeal to.
This whole process takes YEARS, especially if the lower courts decide to "slow walk" the case. There are instances where there was a year between when oral arguments happened and when the court finally released a decision. If your state goes antigun, don't expect judicial relief any time soon (if ever).
Liberalgunowners shocked when democrats win and immediately file gun control
They’ll always say that that they prioritize other things than the 2A.
‘NoT a SiNgLe iSsUe vOtEr’
Insanity. The only right in the constitution that literally all the others depend on to have any weight at all.
Thats the point. Theres a cross section of our society that craves the boot.
And another that would go out of their way to suicide by cop for idiotic reasons.
I was in the thread on that. Only half seemed to be shock and the other half were telling them "I told you so". There was one person in there still insisting on writing in to the dems to get them to change their minds despite the fact that a few years ago on lobby day when massive numbers of gun owners lawfully and peaceably assembled to protest gun control the Dems passed restrictions on protests near the legislature. The Dem leadership just does not care about gun rights and is actively malicious towards gun rights.
At this point VA people need to come to NC, SC, or Tennessee. The north conquered Virginia twice now.
South Virginia
West Virginia. More pro gun than any of those states.
NC will likely be facing the same laws within as little as a year. They have it far worse than we do with the number of northerner liberals moving there. Fortunately they mostly do not want to move to WVA. Also, in the event these laws pass and don't get challenged, if you live on a border county, maybe talk to your county representatives about having a vote to have the county leave VA and join WVA.
NC has more registered Republicans than Democrats now
Yeah it really sucks and really legitamately upsets me. Yankee vassal state no matter how much oldschool VA culture still lives in places like SWVA, The Valley and Southside VA. Nowhere else is home and I had family fighting the revolution here but I give it 5ish years and if I see no improvements its WV or East TN for me. Probably close to the border so I can still be near family
The first time was 10000% justified
Youngkin was the sole thing holding back the wave of gun control that Virginians are about to experience.
If you live in Virginia buy what you want, what you think you may want, and even what you don’t want and do it now.
Once this crap becomes law it’s almost impossible to get back unless a Supreme Court miracle ruling comes out.
Signed- an unfortunate soul in a blue stronghold that has seen our 2A rights destroyed.
Redditors will vote for this lol
Ironically they will vote for these ban bills with law enforcement exemptions and in the same breath complain about a law enforcement agency killing a citizen with a banned gun or magazine
Schrodinger's LEO strikes again.
Being in NY and knowing what’s coming, buckle up Virginia. You too can be an overnight felon with the stroke of a pen. This is the Democrat way.
Booooo
There are friendly federal courts in VA, right? Western Virginia iirc?
Here's the process based on watching all the crap that CA passes wind its way through the courts:
Step 1: File a case in Federal District Court (FDC) claiming the new law infringes on the 2A. At the same time, file for an injunction to prevent the law from going into effect. The injunction is almost never granted.
Step 2: After the FDC ruling, the losing party will file a petition for review to the Circuit Court of Appeals (CCA) and file for an injunction to stay the FDC's ruling. History has shown that if the FDC's ruling is pro-2A, the injunction request will probably be granted. If the FDC's ruling is for the State (anti-2A), it will probably be denied. The CCA will hear the case and make a ruling. The losing party can appeal the decision to be heard "en banc". En banc is a French legal term meaning "on the bench," referring to a session where all the judges of an appeals court rehear the case, rather than just the initial panel. If the CCA agrees to hear the case en banc, then step 2 is repeated with a larger panel.
Step 3: After the CCA ruling and an en banc refusal, or after the en banc decision, the losing party will file an injunction request on the CCA's ruling (see step 2 for probable ruling on the injunction request) and petition SCOTUS for a writ of certiorari (WoC). A WoC is a legal order from a higher court to a lower court to send up its records for review, and it is the primary way the U.S. Supreme Court selects cases to hear. Granting a WoC is a discretionary process, meaning the Supreme Court can decline to hear the case and let the CCA ruling stand. If SCOTUS chooses to hear the case, oral arguments are presented and SCOTUS will (eventually) release a ruling. SCOTUS's word is final; there is nowhere left to appeal to.
This whole process takes YEARS, especially if the lower courts decide to "slow walk" the case. There are instances where there was a year between when oral arguments happened and when the court finally released a decision. If your state goes antigun, don't expect judicial relief any time soon (if ever).
None of which will actuall address the problem
All of which presumes to give laws the ability to rewrite federal and state guarantees
Lmaooooo