Yeah, I never want to be a doomer, but it feels over over lately. There haven't been any notable privacy wins in a while. It's a war of attrition. Everything's been overruled, voted on again and again until the result changes, or chipped down to nothing. It feels like we're just waiting for the final killing blows. Most people don't care about this stuff (how can you, when you can barely afford rent and food?), and even when there is public outcry like in the UK, the nanny state tells them to shut the fuck up.
I've always been very anti conspiracy theory and been that annoying guy to reject ideas others mention to me and some of my colleagues who are great people but are very alt right leaning are churning out conspiracy on after another but then the day I mention that governments including the US are beginning to enforce mass surveillance all over the place - for some reason that's completely ridiculous to them and idk why they'd deny that cus they're always being all anti government, I'd have thought they'd be all over this information. I also work in cybersecurity so you'd think I'd have some credibility in this area but no lol
It's likely because mass surveillance is such a horrible and dystopian concept that most people immediately reject it, subconsciously deeming it as "too horrible to be possible". It's a form of denial, similar to when a person experiences an unimaginably traumatic event, their brain immediately tells them that it didn't happen, as an attempt to mentally and emotionally protect itself.
They are in denial, subconsciously unable to accept that mass surveillance is becoming a genuine reality.
With the advent of massive data warehouses and facial recognition. It’s now economically viable and possible to track every mobile number in real time both GPS and radio mast triangulation, record plus store every action taken on said mobile device.
Governments will obviously use this information to cut down police departments. Those gold plated police pensions can bankrupt a country you know.
Much cheaper and quicker to ask Ai to pull the data and work out who was where from phone + car and CCTV.
You don’t need to know who owns it to see exactly where it has been. It’s like a personal tracking device.
Ai can cross reference locations and times to CCTV and use face recognition or if you turn it on in your house then the government knows you own that number with a simple cross reference to the land registry in an instant.
Have it turned on in your car and number plate recognition cameras can cross reference the time and place with their feed to identify the car.
Privacy is dead and phones , cars, CCTV is the main actor. Data centres and Ai are the economic enabler by reducing the cost and speeding up the process to real time information gathering.
Most phone scams come from India because the Indian government turns a blind eye.
Any phone scam that originate in the UK or USA only succeed because the UK / USA police / government choose not to use the technology that they have.
In the UK we had a period of drug trade call country lines. The police must of let it proceed because if they were serious it was the most simple drug dealing to catch as they all used known phone numbers that were not changed. Bloody embarrassing.
They seem to think paying for an informer is a better idea than tracking a drug dealers phone number for some insane reason?
It's because we, as people, stopped reminding governments that we CAN do things against it. Revolts passed, protests stopped, these power hungry capitalists grew a little too much fat and sat in their chairs comfortably for a little too long. It is super important that society always keep government structures and capitalists tight, in fear that if they do anything wrong, people will rise up and "cancel" them in no time. Unfortunately as each generation grows, they lose that idea more and more and stopping seeing reason why they should go outside of their comfort zone every now and then. It seems like it's an endless cycle of back and forth that will keep repeating itself over and over.
It is just history repeating. Unfortunately, life isn't like the movies and requires constant vigilance and education to keep evil at bay. Otherwise the cockroaches will keep sneaking back in. Bloody annoying, that.
Climate change and the decay of capitalism will make the next 20 years a rollercoaster, to put it lightly. Governments know this and want to get ahead of the game.
I’d say it’s more cybercrime is becoming an increasing issue. Phone numbers have become a kind of proxy ID that services can use to prevent banned users continually registering, and to get the country of origin for users.
It's recent memory for S. Korea. Then again, anything dystopic that happens in Korea is only 5-10 years ahead of implementation in the US, I swear the country gets used as a testing ground for this stuff.
Why is it happening all over the world? It used to be no verification at all, then Government ID (this is still ok but eeehhh), but now biometrics? In this facial recognition era?
You dumbass motherfuckers really think the borders are for anybody but you? Borders fake. Govt's fake. Politics and debates and tensions fake. You've all been living in a giant lie but no, don't listen to anybody trying to tell you the answer to your question. Wouldn't wanna see the truth cuz it hurts.
Plato's allegory of the cave, except the shadow puppets is literally every single screen you've ever seen, and anything allowed to be seen on those screens.
Litmus tests. Turing tests but for humans.
At no other point in history have more people been as awake and asleep at the same time - if they don't act now they will lose the ability to enslave you all as well as have enough believing gullible slaves left to serve them in their shelters after the nukes fall.
But yeah just keep watching netflix. Cry to your therapist when someone's corpse gets found on an Amazon floor after 16 hours, never mind the factories with humans don't get ac but the ones with computers and robots do.
At least we learned how to pave the entire fucking planet in asphalt because thats what a habitable biosphere needs - to be raped to death.
In case you're wondering what the plan for the planet is. Rape her to death. Oedipal.
Punish for being born and enslave for being human.
The apocalypse began with the industrial revolution, but the seeds were planted in the ag rev.
5,000 years or more you've been played, humanity.
But hey, at least AI won't have any competition once we've finished making ourselves obsolete and our replacement impossible to beat.
You're absolutely right and well said. It is sad to see how people are literally acting to this as if it is some incomprehensible nonsense. And made even sadder by seeing it happen on a privacy subreddit.
If you had actually asked about any particular point I would have answered that because it would have been a literal question, not a rhetorical comment phrased like a question to disguise your ignorance as reason.
The intelligence curve. People who cannot understand what you are saying will neither have the intelligence to understand that their own ignorance is why they cant understand you, nor the fortitude to put the effort into learning. good luck.
As usual the only good post gets downvoted to hell and gets replies pretending you posted some incoherent rant when it clearly and obviously makes perfect sense.
well im open to new perspectives but that comment doesnt make much sense. governments and borders are fake? sure, okay, but what is the truth, then?
personally im nowadays much more convinced by simple arguments and well-explained thought processes rather than arguments that use a lot nonsensical metaphors and emotional language that's meant to attract your attention. we can all see how much propaganda is flowing around the internet, and im trying my best not to fall for that. for all we know the above comment could very well have been written by chatgpt. stay safe guys
It was never an argument, it was a remark about how this exact kind of "vent on reddit" behavior is submission to the Authoritarian scheme of replacing revolution with meaningless venting in a public forum vacant of power to do anything meaningful with that discussion. One of the multiple angles of attack the military designed the internet to do.
The easiest way to stop a habit or break a cycle is to replace it with something else. But instead of providing everybody with access to therapy, they make you pay to have less power and less voice in a cesspool of bots designed to gaslight you and try to convert you to being more submissive.
Also BDSM blew up in cultural popularity recently, even though overall queer rights and sex education is on the downward geopolitical culture slope but im sure its just a coincidence or something. Not like anybody's masturbating in their mansion to billions of people accepting abuse as form of government.
Besides, it requires context to understand. The goal is to provide just enough detail that somebody might ask how one thing is connected to the other - however, to do so requires the same amount of brainpower necessary to restrain your immediate desire to have an emotional reaction to a slightly inflammatorily worded comment.
TFW everyone was laughing at Russia for their draconian internet censorship and privacy invasion and then just turned themselves into even worse abomination.
We all need to stop using face id on our devices, or go back to burner/dumb phones. Stick to pin codes and passwords folks. Looks like the 21'st century will reflect the 19th with a tech backdrop
Link to a thorough article about SIM card registration laws around the world. The article is from April, 2025 and lists 35 countries requiring biometrics for new sim cards but its at least 37 since South Korea and Chile implemented biometric requirements for new SIM cards this year.
Here that’s true for regular phone numbers, but you can get a prepaid number from any corner store for 5 euros cash and no info required, sometimes even less when there are sales.
5 € worth of data/texts isn’t a lot, but you can receive unlimited texts/calls for 1 year after it expires unless you add more credits to it.
Yes, I am aware not every place is the same, I’m not American. It was just an example or random tidbit, didn’t mean it as some kind of refutation of your point.
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The world has a boner for authoritarianism 100 years after getting rid of it in most places.
Seems like the world leaders had a movie and book night where they watched and read nineteen eighty four.
That book was just an allegory for what the Stasi were already doing, they're just building the same systems but with better tech.
It was called COVID-19.
Yeah, I never want to be a doomer, but it feels over over lately. There haven't been any notable privacy wins in a while. It's a war of attrition. Everything's been overruled, voted on again and again until the result changes, or chipped down to nothing. It feels like we're just waiting for the final killing blows. Most people don't care about this stuff (how can you, when you can barely afford rent and food?), and even when there is public outcry like in the UK, the nanny state tells them to shut the fuck up.
I've always been very anti conspiracy theory and been that annoying guy to reject ideas others mention to me and some of my colleagues who are great people but are very alt right leaning are churning out conspiracy on after another but then the day I mention that governments including the US are beginning to enforce mass surveillance all over the place - for some reason that's completely ridiculous to them and idk why they'd deny that cus they're always being all anti government, I'd have thought they'd be all over this information. I also work in cybersecurity so you'd think I'd have some credibility in this area but no lol
It's likely because mass surveillance is such a horrible and dystopian concept that most people immediately reject it, subconsciously deeming it as "too horrible to be possible". It's a form of denial, similar to when a person experiences an unimaginably traumatic event, their brain immediately tells them that it didn't happen, as an attempt to mentally and emotionally protect itself.
They are in denial, subconsciously unable to accept that mass surveillance is becoming a genuine reality.
With the advent of massive data warehouses and facial recognition. It’s now economically viable and possible to track every mobile number in real time both GPS and radio mast triangulation, record plus store every action taken on said mobile device.
Governments will obviously use this information to cut down police departments. Those gold plated police pensions can bankrupt a country you know.
Much cheaper and quicker to ask Ai to pull the data and work out who was where from phone + car and CCTV.
Hard to argue with that, but it will go much deeper. 75 years trying not to be North Korea and we are are showing them how to play God.
So the answer is phones that are not tied to an identity and open to abuse? What is the solution then for issues such as scams?
Every phone can be tracked when turned on.
You don’t need to know who owns it to see exactly where it has been. It’s like a personal tracking device.
Ai can cross reference locations and times to CCTV and use face recognition or if you turn it on in your house then the government knows you own that number with a simple cross reference to the land registry in an instant.
Have it turned on in your car and number plate recognition cameras can cross reference the time and place with their feed to identify the car.
Privacy is dead and phones , cars, CCTV is the main actor. Data centres and Ai are the economic enabler by reducing the cost and speeding up the process to real time information gathering.
Most phone scams come from India because the Indian government turns a blind eye.
Any phone scam that originate in the UK or USA only succeed because the UK / USA police / government choose not to use the technology that they have.
In the UK we had a period of drug trade call country lines. The police must of let it proceed because if they were serious it was the most simple drug dealing to catch as they all used known phone numbers that were not changed. Bloody embarrassing.
They seem to think paying for an informer is a better idea than tracking a drug dealers phone number for some insane reason?
Or, copy the Bills that Liberals in Canada are trying to ram through into law, 10 years in jail for crimes a person 𝘮𝘢𝘺 commit.
It's because we, as people, stopped reminding governments that we CAN do things against it. Revolts passed, protests stopped, these power hungry capitalists grew a little too much fat and sat in their chairs comfortably for a little too long. It is super important that society always keep government structures and capitalists tight, in fear that if they do anything wrong, people will rise up and "cancel" them in no time. Unfortunately as each generation grows, they lose that idea more and more and stopping seeing reason why they should go outside of their comfort zone every now and then. It seems like it's an endless cycle of back and forth that will keep repeating itself over and over.
Saw something recently where people used to protest by leaving a whole city lol. Left the rulers to only rule themselves.
Now they'll use AI to destroy your life if you protest successfully enough.
If enough protest, no AI will be able to stop it.
But they don't want to lose their UBI so they won't protest.
Just like in that saying about good times creating weak people, and weak people bringing bad times.
In the case of South Korea, 44 years.
It is just history repeating. Unfortunately, life isn't like the movies and requires constant vigilance and education to keep evil at bay. Otherwise the cockroaches will keep sneaking back in. Bloody annoying, that.
Poor education is definitely the reason it's happening in America. You'd be amazed how many Americans have no idea how the American government works.
Climate change and the decay of capitalism will make the next 20 years a rollercoaster, to put it lightly. Governments know this and want to get ahead of the game.
I’d say it’s more cybercrime is becoming an increasing issue. Phone numbers have become a kind of proxy ID that services can use to prevent banned users continually registering, and to get the country of origin for users.
Getting rid of it where, exactly? Not even the US was free of authoritarianism.
It's recent memory for S. Korea. Then again, anything dystopic that happens in Korea is only 5-10 years ahead of implementation in the US, I swear the country gets used as a testing ground for this stuff.
Authoritarianism never dies, it only hibernates.
boomers gonna boom
Why is it happening all over the world? It used to be no verification at all, then Government ID (this is still ok but eeehhh), but now biometrics? In this facial recognition era?
Because people got complacent and started letting the ruling class get away with it again.
Idk, I think it might have to do with war and AI as well.
AI definitely makes it easier to automate & more effective than what the Stasi had, but the drivers are the same
Looking to regulate the internet so they can control what gets posted about israel
You dumbass motherfuckers really think the borders are for anybody but you? Borders fake. Govt's fake. Politics and debates and tensions fake. You've all been living in a giant lie but no, don't listen to anybody trying to tell you the answer to your question. Wouldn't wanna see the truth cuz it hurts.
Plato's allegory of the cave, except the shadow puppets is literally every single screen you've ever seen, and anything allowed to be seen on those screens.
Litmus tests. Turing tests but for humans.
At no other point in history have more people been as awake and asleep at the same time - if they don't act now they will lose the ability to enslave you all as well as have enough believing gullible slaves left to serve them in their shelters after the nukes fall.
But yeah just keep watching netflix. Cry to your therapist when someone's corpse gets found on an Amazon floor after 16 hours, never mind the factories with humans don't get ac but the ones with computers and robots do.
At least we learned how to pave the entire fucking planet in asphalt because thats what a habitable biosphere needs - to be raped to death.
In case you're wondering what the plan for the planet is. Rape her to death. Oedipal.
Punish for being born and enslave for being human.
The apocalypse began with the industrial revolution, but the seeds were planted in the ag rev.
5,000 years or more you've been played, humanity.
But hey, at least AI won't have any competition once we've finished making ourselves obsolete and our replacement impossible to beat.
Have a mice life.
that was a powerful read. some people prefer to stay locked in consumerism hell.
You're absolutely right and well said. It is sad to see how people are literally acting to this as if it is some incomprehensible nonsense. And made even sadder by seeing it happen on a privacy subreddit.
What are you talking about? What’s your point? This is an incoherent rambling.
There’s lots to be said about why this is happening, but none of this addresses that point.
its the internet you can say whatever you want
If you had actually asked about any particular point I would have answered that because it would have been a literal question, not a rhetorical comment phrased like a question to disguise your ignorance as reason.
The intelligence curve. People who cannot understand what you are saying will neither have the intelligence to understand that their own ignorance is why they cant understand you, nor the fortitude to put the effort into learning. good luck.
As usual the only good post gets downvoted to hell and gets replies pretending you posted some incoherent rant when it clearly and obviously makes perfect sense.
And this human behavior is one of the reasons we're in such a predicament now.
Welcome to
reddithumanitywell im open to new perspectives but that comment doesnt make much sense. governments and borders are fake? sure, okay, but what is the truth, then?
personally im nowadays much more convinced by simple arguments and well-explained thought processes rather than arguments that use a lot nonsensical metaphors and emotional language that's meant to attract your attention. we can all see how much propaganda is flowing around the internet, and im trying my best not to fall for that. for all we know the above comment could very well have been written by chatgpt. stay safe guys
It was never an argument, it was a remark about how this exact kind of "vent on reddit" behavior is submission to the Authoritarian scheme of replacing revolution with meaningless venting in a public forum vacant of power to do anything meaningful with that discussion. One of the multiple angles of attack the military designed the internet to do.
The easiest way to stop a habit or break a cycle is to replace it with something else. But instead of providing everybody with access to therapy, they make you pay to have less power and less voice in a cesspool of bots designed to gaslight you and try to convert you to being more submissive.
Also BDSM blew up in cultural popularity recently, even though overall queer rights and sex education is on the downward geopolitical culture slope but im sure its just a coincidence or something. Not like anybody's masturbating in their mansion to billions of people accepting abuse as form of government.
Besides, it requires context to understand. The goal is to provide just enough detail that somebody might ask how one thing is connected to the other - however, to do so requires the same amount of brainpower necessary to restrain your immediate desire to have an emotional reaction to a slightly inflammatorily worded comment.
Litmus test.
TFW everyone was laughing at Russia for their draconian internet censorship and privacy invasion and then just turned themselves into even worse abomination.
Maybe fixing the birth rate would be a more sensible course of action rather than making everyone's lives a little bit more controlled.
They'll replace everyone with AI, new people aren't needed anymore!
god created us now we tray to create god(AI)
8 <---- infinity.. circle of life
Would require Korean men to treat women with respect first.
Thailand, unfortunately, has this bullshit as well.
So is Indonesia
Vile
i think we already have that in germany
Do they mean photos of your face, or....
Whole naked body when you’re 18 in 8K, straight to government database.
I was going to say, I didn't see enough adult movies to recognize all of them, but I can give it a try.
Brb, off to brush up on my knowledge of climax scenes, just in case.
The North will prevail
Nah, don't say thing like that. You know how much worst North Korea actually is.
Is it worse now? Yes, absolutely.
Will it be worse in ten years if the south continues with this shit? Questionable.
We all need to stop using face id on our devices, or go back to burner/dumb phones. Stick to pin codes and passwords folks. Looks like the 21'st century will reflect the 19th with a tech backdrop
Link to a thorough article about SIM card registration laws around the world. The article is from April, 2025 and lists 35 countries requiring biometrics for new sim cards but its at least 37 since South Korea and Chile implemented biometric requirements for new SIM cards this year.
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/sim-card-registration-laws/
Good job, South Korea. You can’t lag behind your northern brothers.
Local man breaks new record of most opened phone numbers.
Ugh. But really what did we expect from South Korea?
South Korea |---o>-----| North Korea
The noses just want to commit genocide in peace without all those cameras pointing at them.
The noses…?
ah the blissful ignorance
Wait isnt this normal worldwide ? in my country we are giving copies of our ids for owning lots of stuff.
In many countries you need a government ID to register phone. Verifying face to open phone number isn't unreasonable.
Here that’s true for regular phone numbers, but you can get a prepaid number from any corner store for 5 euros cash and no info required, sometimes even less when there are sales.
5 € worth of data/texts isn’t a lot, but you can receive unlimited texts/calls for 1 year after it expires unless you add more credits to it.
Not in many countries. ID submission is required.
Yes, I am aware not every place is the same, I’m not American. It was just an example or random tidbit, didn’t mean it as some kind of refutation of your point.
Both seems quite unreasonable to me.
Yes it fucking is.