As Ray-Ban meta glasses are being spread around the world and other technology are recording and identity more and more people everyday, is there a solution we can find to hide our faces from video recording in public places?
An adversarial "medical" mask, adversarial or IR reflective hat and/or scarf, and IR blocking glasses. You'll look weird at hell to actual people, but IR cameras will have difficulty and facial recognition will blow a fuse trying to resolve whether or not it's even looking at a person. My comments with links have been getting removed. Anyone who wants links to specific products or videos testing products can DM me I guess.
That's an interesting question, to be honest. You could try writing to the contacts listed on the website; perhaps the author will suggest something interesting.
As far as I remember, the main feature of these glasses is the special plastic used for the frames and lenses.
Yes, ZenniOptical makes an anti-facial recognition coating (IR blocking) for their regular glasses My YouTube links get removed on this subreddit but go to YouTube and search for Business Reform Zenni Glasses for a review of the glasses with actual testing.
You can use IR headlamps. They blind IR cameras but aren’t bright at all to human eye. Doesn’t help during day but at night,to cameras you look like a halogen lamp floating around.
Side note, if you want to shame Meta-ban users, ask them what that is and when they proudly tell you they’re Meta Ray-Bans, say, “Oh wow, so like Facebook on your face? My grandma would love a pair of those!” Bonus if you can say it without a hint of irony.
The plus from this is it be really helpful for my aging father. No matter how many glasses we get him, he loses them and gets frustrated when he can't find them.
Main reason we been hesitant to buy him a pair, is everything else it comes with.
Facebook users weren't content with giving away all their life details to meta so now they're doubling it by feeding Meta recordings of unconsenting adults, am I living in a South Park episode? They're quite literally working overtime for Meta, for free no less
You are being recorded by cameras every time you go out in public. Why are you worried about Facebook glasses? I have yet to even see one in real life yet.
No and this would be a bad idea. Not doing anything would actually be more private because you wouldn't draw attention to yourself. If you're wearing some weird ass gadget you are going to 100% bringing all kinds of attention to yourself that you normally wouldn't have.
Also public recording is already seen to be socially negative, and even the average person doesn't want to be recorded, so the negative pressure is already there.
Best thing you can do is call them glassholes and make them embarrassed for wearing something like that.
Unfortunately too many are very late to realizing the extent of mass and state surveillance. Meta glasses are new to the game, but the game is not new. And meta glasses are the least of our worries as they rely on individual purchase and use. There are well funded and pervasive surveillance programs underway.
There are measures you can take to resist surveillance, and organize to combat it. But you probably need to learn a little bit more about it first. There’s lots of info out there (search topics like state surveillance, mass surveillance, security culture, opsec).
If I recall their are highly reflective clothes made for celebrities that just blind the cameras of the paparazzi. I think these might also fare well against facial recognition.
I doubt it, those clothes only work if there's a flash and it's already kinda dark. Even then they're pretty easily defeated by using the proper camera settings
There is highly reflective clothing. It's truthfully only useful for paparazzi who have their flash up all the way. Anything adjusted of auto adjusting usually doesn't have much trouble.
No. There is no solution, and ray ban glasses is not a big game changer here.
In some countries the recorder requires your consent if they want to publish their work and you are the subject. If you are just a background, consent usually not needed.
The problem with the meta ones is that people dont know they're being recorded. The recording light can easily be turned off. You can't give (or not give) your consent if they never ask and you don't know it's happening.
Yes, glasses is new thing and people do not pay enough attention to it yet.
but,I still do not see it as a game changer. I can put a recording smartphone in a pocket of my polo keeping camera free. It is even simpler than turning off camera light.
People can be wary because most people have phones and know they can record. Not everyone has sunglasses and it's uncommon for clothing/accessories to record you.
No, in public your face is fair game. Short of masking your face it will be photographed. Your rights to privacy in public spaces is restricted only in how your face can be used/published. This is also not easily controlled.
There's IR reflective clothing and some anti-facial recognition masks but honestly most of that stuff just makes you look sus as hell. Probably easier to just accept we're all gonna be on someone's ring doorbell anyway
I wish there are ones without privacy concerns with AI that can be used for documentary photography or as a diary of what I see each day that inspires me and not for social media. And it would have manual settings or buttons like a camera! If you haven’t noticed in just a photo & camera nerd
Pretty much every public place has been recorded on cctv for the last 20 year. Literally everyone has a 20+ mp digital camera they are using constantly in public places. The worlds lousiest company releases impractical and barely functional glasses with a camera that majority of people can’t afford and don’t want even if they could and suddenly you’re worried about your face in public?
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An adversarial "medical" mask, adversarial or IR reflective hat and/or scarf, and IR blocking glasses. You'll look weird at hell to actual people, but IR cameras will have difficulty and facial recognition will blow a fuse trying to resolve whether or not it's even looking at a person. My comments with links have been getting removed. Anyone who wants links to specific products or videos testing products can DM me I guess.
Is there a hair or beard spray with anti IR properties
Serious answer: spray paint. Disruptive patterns make it difficult to resolve whether or not an AI is even looking at a person.
No they don't, not for years.
Is one leaving no choice but to break out the Glitterrr yaaaaasss
I DMed you
Can you dm me the link please
I'll take a DM
Curious as to why a privacy subreddit is removing your comments?
Automod. Something about spam.
Ahhh I see, I remember when it removed my YouTube links as well. 🤦🏻♂️
Perhaps these glasses will help control this situation. https://www.reflectacles.com/
What if I already wear glasses? Are there any options for me?
That's an interesting question, to be honest. You could try writing to the contacts listed on the website; perhaps the author will suggest something interesting.
As far as I remember, the main feature of these glasses is the special plastic used for the frames and lenses.
They had clip ons no?
I saw those when looking the second time, those would probably work
Yes, ZenniOptical makes an anti-facial recognition coating (IR blocking) for their regular glasses My YouTube links get removed on this subreddit but go to YouTube and search for Business Reform Zenni Glasses for a review of the glasses with actual testing.
Boy, they really needed to workshop that name a bit more.
I think it's perfect. It's only cheeky if your head's in the gutter anyway
You can use IR headlamps. They blind IR cameras but aren’t bright at all to human eye. Doesn’t help during day but at night,to cameras you look like a halogen lamp floating around.
Scramble Suit.
Side note, if you want to shame Meta-ban users, ask them what that is and when they proudly tell you they’re Meta Ray-Bans, say, “Oh wow, so like Facebook on your face? My grandma would love a pair of those!” Bonus if you can say it without a hint of irony.
The lameness factor is what halted Google glass, after all.
We need to go back to calling the users Glassholes
Or Rayholes? LOL
Yeah didn’t a few people get their asses brutally beat for wearing them?
I don't know about that but my fiance had a pair and they looked so ridiculous I couldn't stop laughing at him. He quit wearing them pretty fast.
The guy who attached the camera to his head was attacked for it.
Source?
No source, I saw something about it on twitter at the time. Some guy in SF said he was assaulted walking home from a bar.
Lmao they are too many Jim Barris’s around
I have mixed feelings with these.
The plus from this is it be really helpful for my aging father. No matter how many glasses we get him, he loses them and gets frustrated when he can't find them.
Main reason we been hesitant to buy him a pair, is everything else it comes with.
reflectacles, vaydr, facemask, shiesty, etc
There's guy on YT who tests gear and gives solutions: handle is (at) businessreform
It doesn't matter because they are tracking you by walking gate.
Gait
Thanks!
You’re welcome
Jokes on them between my hobbies, age catching up with me, and the perpetual cycle of healing and re-injuring, ♪my gait is Constantly evolving.
Same.
Poor logic
You use the anti ray ban glasses
Yes, but then the cycle kicks off with anti-anti-ray ban glasses.
Start wearing a furry suit in public /s
Keep reminding people that their main use is for recording without being noticed, like in locker rooms.
Facebook users weren't content with giving away all their life details to meta so now they're doubling it by feeding Meta recordings of unconsenting adults, am I living in a South Park episode? They're quite literally working overtime for Meta, for free no less
I have to disagree with this approach
Don’t be in public
Best advice ever!
But impossible in practice
Seasoned introverts looking at this comment like 🙃
You are being recorded by cameras every time you go out in public. Why are you worried about Facebook glasses? I have yet to even see one in real life yet.
Step 1: Be Attractive
Step 2: Don’t be Unattractive
Step 3: Having a pulse is optional
Step 4: Be super rich and unleash the lawyers
Step 5: Profit.
Why do I get the feeling that is exactly what the powers that be want us to do...?
Zenni has IR blocking lenses now
Yeah. They suck.
When they first tried this 10 or 15 years ago people were being punched in the face for wearing them. It’s crazy that it’s now fully acceptable
No and this would be a bad idea. Not doing anything would actually be more private because you wouldn't draw attention to yourself. If you're wearing some weird ass gadget you are going to 100% bringing all kinds of attention to yourself that you normally wouldn't have.
Also public recording is already seen to be socially negative, and even the average person doesn't want to be recorded, so the negative pressure is already there.
Best thing you can do is call them glassholes and make them embarrassed for wearing something like that.
Respirator. As a bonus, you will no longer get sick.
Walk around with model release forms.
Hire security staff to constantly shine flashlights in every direction? Or wear a mask?
Disco laser should do the trick.
I'm imagining the hat with a helicopter blade on it...but disco ball
Not sure if they work but sites like Zenni offer coats that are supposed to affect IR scanners and other cameras.
(Yes Zenni is an ultra budget glass brand but they’re may be others)
Unfortunately too many are very late to realizing the extent of mass and state surveillance. Meta glasses are new to the game, but the game is not new. And meta glasses are the least of our worries as they rely on individual purchase and use. There are well funded and pervasive surveillance programs underway.
There are measures you can take to resist surveillance, and organize to combat it. But you probably need to learn a little bit more about it first. There’s lots of info out there (search topics like state surveillance, mass surveillance, security culture, opsec).
If I recall their are highly reflective clothes made for celebrities that just blind the cameras of the paparazzi. I think these might also fare well against facial recognition.
I doubt it, those clothes only work if there's a flash and it's already kinda dark. Even then they're pretty easily defeated by using the proper camera settings
Only works against flash photography
There is highly reflective clothing. It's truthfully only useful for paparazzi who have their flash up all the way. Anything adjusted of auto adjusting usually doesn't have much trouble.
Wear a burqa ¯\(ツ)/¯
Famously useful during the Algerian revolution
There are glasses that does the opposite.
That makes your head look like a light bulb when on photos or cameras.
Any links?
Sorry.
Saw it om a reel some time ago. But they exist.
No. There is no solution, and ray ban glasses is not a big game changer here.
In some countries the recorder requires your consent if they want to publish their work and you are the subject. If you are just a background, consent usually not needed.
The problem with the meta ones is that people dont know they're being recorded. The recording light can easily be turned off. You can't give (or not give) your consent if they never ask and you don't know it's happening.
Yes, glasses is new thing and people do not pay enough attention to it yet.
but,I still do not see it as a game changer. I can put a recording smartphone in a pocket of my polo keeping camera free. It is even simpler than turning off camera light.
People can be wary because most people have phones and know they can record. Not everyone has sunglasses and it's uncommon for clothing/accessories to record you.
maybe you can get a camaflouged bubble boy suit like in seinfeld ?
No, in public your face is fair game. Short of masking your face it will be photographed. Your rights to privacy in public spaces is restricted only in how your face can be used/published. This is also not easily controlled.
You know, in some countries it's illegal to take pictures of people without their permission. It should be like that everywhere.
I hope that never becomes illegal. As much as I value privacy, those countries have gone too far.
Wow, I didn’t even think about this until now. Facebook is literally paying to mass surveil the streets… that’s so fucked up.
They have you surveilled from the moment you leave your house. They could just literally reverse follow your trail and find your origin.
There's IR reflective clothing and some anti-facial recognition masks but honestly most of that stuff just makes you look sus as hell. Probably easier to just accept we're all gonna be on someone's ring doorbell anyway
Burka.
It starts to become illegal in some European countries
Finally
Don’t go out in public
Is it true by making your face asymetric by putting on tape like lightning or cover your ears that it also works?
I wish there are ones without privacy concerns with AI that can be used for documentary photography or as a diary of what I see each day that inspires me and not for social media. And it would have manual settings or buttons like a camera! If you haven’t noticed in just a photo & camera nerd
Pretty much every public place has been recorded on cctv for the last 20 year. Literally everyone has a 20+ mp digital camera they are using constantly in public places. The worlds lousiest company releases impractical and barely functional glasses with a camera that majority of people can’t afford and don’t want even if they could and suddenly you’re worried about your face in public?
For me, it's not that I'm being recorded. It's that it's being fed to AI. I cannot speak for others.
Probably I should have written that in the post since this is also what I'm worried about
Maybe shine a laser into the sensor to damage it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Potato_Head
Seek therapy.