Is there a name for this? I’m looking to research what others are including in something like this so I can put one together for my partner and I. Something we could use as a get home bag, but that would also have everything we need to survive for a few days should we need to shelter in place in our vehicle, or whatever building we’re working out of that day.
There are times where my partner and I are about 2 hours from home for work. If something were to happen, I’d like to have one bag that covers both situations. Could be anything from bad weather to an EMP. The issue I’m running into is capacity. I don’t want to have to lug a massive 50 pound bag if I’m trying to get home, but I do need to make sure I have bottled water if I’m stuck in a vehicle, and because we both drive company cars, it’s not an option to just keep a case of water in the trunk. Sawyer straws and such are cool for getting home, but there’s not a water source in my car.
Does anyone have experience putting something like this together? Or even ideas/suggestions on what to pack?
So far I’m thinking:
Food (protein bars, jerky, tuna packets, some candy)
Water (I currently have 2 one liter bottles in each bag, which isn’t really enough but it adds so much weight)
Small first aid kit
Mylar blankets
Hand warmers
Extra socks
Hygiene stuff
Small fire making kit
Knife
Multi tool
Rope
Hand crank radio/flashlight/charger combo
Cash
72 hour bag?
I do think this seems to be closest to what I was thinking! Thank you!
I’ve been prepping for about 6 years, but only found out about online communities like this a year or so ago so I’m still learning the lingo.
Np, usually a 72 hour bag focuses on just that. 3 days of food, water, clothes, cash, battery bank. Skip the tools, important docs, deep Bushcraft stuff. Mainly focuses on just the essentials for 3 days. Even clothes, just a change of socks really. Only more clothes for if you're in a cold climate or seasonally if that's even needed.
Don't for for 1 mega bag to do it all.
2 hour drive would be about 2 -3 days of walking depending on the terrain. So plan for 3 days of meals/supplies. You'll be using way more calories to walk than to stay in your car so keep that in mind as well when choosing food. A small tent and sleep pad will come in handy for such a long walk you'll need to sleep at some point. Maybe solve the water issue by having a life straw in the bag but just keep extra water bottles in the car that can be used if you shelter in the car or left behind/taken if needed when getting home. Keep weight in mind if walking home such a long distance. A good set of hiking shoes will also be needed and make sure they are not new or your feet wont make it that far. Hiking boots need to be broken in. Think about adding in some super high calorie bars. Dried fruit and nuts as well.
I definitely need to add a sawyer straw, can’t believe I forgot that. I think I was panicking about the weight of water bottles and skipped over that part.
I do some self-supported ultra -light/-compact adventure touring - world is your oyster, really depends on what your experience/skill level is (or care to learn/practice) and what you want to invest ($) and deal with (bulk/weight). On one end of the spectrum, for a 45lb (excl water) two-bag airline carryon size, you can have a folding bike touring rig that’ll cover your 2hrs (120mi) in 2days. In the middle, a 25lb onebag carryon size LDP-boardpacking rig that’ll cover 120mi in 3days (skill required). On the other end of the spectrum, I used to urban EDC a 12L messenger bag with most of my UL backpacking kit (abbreviated ‘survival’ sleep system) - most everything multitasks for urban use and my outdoor recreation, so sees regular use.
I have thought about adding a folding scooter to the preps I keep in my personal car’s trunk in case I’m in a situation where I can’t keep driving.
I'd consider a bicycle unless your basic plan is to ditch the scooter partway if needed and have supplies to walk the rest of the distance simply saving some time.
Scooters are generally not good once the battery runs out. Scooters also often aren't good at all on damaged roads, rough terrain or snow. And if you get the ones with big wheels that at least somewhat perform in terrain/snow it is probably even worse if the battery runs out.
Bicycles are good without any battery and even e-bicycles still tend to remain quite good after if the battery runs out.
IMO, it's just a "get home bag". Like with a bug out bag, the contents are going to be unique to your situation- the point is, it's a bag that has whatever you are most likely to need to get you home safe.
To me, the big thing is updating the GHB twice per year for warm vs cold seasons. Think of weather-appropriate clothing, blankets, change out the food, etc. You get to decide what compromises to make on bulk vs portability. You mentioned two hours' drive from home... What kind of a hike is that? Plot it on a map. Are there massive changes in elevation / terrain? Shady, or flat/exposed?
If you have a habit of dressing for the weather, then you don't necessarily need to double up on bulky items like boots or outer-wear. If you are concerned about shelter-in-place in the snow, a small camping stove and a stash of water are huge. Add a cheap hot water bottle, and you can keep yourself toasty overnight without running the car.
Shelf-stable food like peanut butter or granola bars; freeze-dry food packs; stuff that can stay in a trunk for a season and stay edible. It may taste a little off from temperature fluctuations, but it will give you nutrition. You can pack a water filter, but realistically you should not assume that semi-potable water will be available.
We also try to keep enough cash in the car for at least a towing to civilization ($100-200).
This is very helpful, thank you! I have run the route on GPS of what it would look like to walk home from the furthest point either of us usually goes, and it was about a day and half hike with no super steep inclines or anything. Just flat Midwest cities. I’m assuming that estimate was walking without any stops or anything though, so likely around 2 days.
The most realistic emergency would be getting stuck in the snow or car troubles so things for that type of situation are priority. I would like to have things that we would need for a bigger emergency too like if God forbid a bomb hit and we needed to shelter in the nearest building for a few days while waiting for the radiation to die down. And then of course to survive the trek back to home base since that’s where the majority of preps are for a long term situation.
I’m not sure about this, but I have been under the impression that multi-day travel should be 1-2 weeks after to avoid very harmful fall out. Just something to consider.
Get an alcohol stove e.g. trangia. and a bottle of alcohol. Easy to carry (mainstay for hikers and military but you can also use in well ventilated indoor spaces), works in all temps incl. freezing, easy to monitor and quick to use.
Proper wool blankets or a sleeping bag plus multiple plastic trash bags of various sizes and a TP roll.
As for food, incl. some dried goods that just need rehydrating like quick oats, noodles, cup a soup, trekking meals, etc.
Preferred form of caffeine
All of the above is stuff my grandmother would even have on had in the car - up north you need to be prepared
I call it a "get home" kit and keep a bin in the back of my truck. The kit has three main functions, get back on the road, shelter in place or evacuate vehicle and go. I keep a small backpack in the kit that I can fill if needed with parts of the kit.
I keep something similar to this in my personal vehicle. I’m trying to create something that can fit in a reasonable sized bag that can be taken out my personal vehicle and into my work vehicle daily for when I travel. So this has me thinking about reorganizing some of what I already have into a type of “priority bag” that I can move with me.
That's why I made the focus of the kit more versatile and still having most of it fit into a bin. This way it's water / weatherproof and can be tossed into the boot of any vehicle. It can be further broken down mid-scenario as needed.
Means to make fire and or heat the space.
Get an empty paint can from a home store and put some sterno cans inside with matches. Light and burn the sterno inside the can for added safety.
You could reduce weight by dropping to a single, smaller water container and adding water purification tablets and/or a Life Straw that would allow you to safely drink from natural water sources. You can also add a small single-person tent with minimal increase in weight.
Also, limit your spare clothing to a single set. You can wear the same clothes for multiple days. The only reason you would need to change is if they get soaking wet. Put those clothes in a vacuum pack to conserve space in your bag.
What do you have packed for self-defense besides a knife?
Finally, a very common mistake people make is putting together a bag like this but not properly fitting it prior to use or practicing carrying it for any distance. Make sure the bag is properly fitted for you before you put it in your car so you don't waste a lot of time fiddling with straps trying to make it comfortable when you actually need it.
Needs a large collapsible water container like a 5 gal Coleman. Keep it full. If you have to move drink what you can then dump what you can’t carry.
Mylar blankets are a one night emergency only solution. Get good quality ones like Arcturus: the disposable ones are terrible to try to sleep with. They tear, they drip condensation, and every time you move they make noise to wake you up. Better than freezing to death but not a good night’s sleep.
Sleeping pad, bag or wool blankets, tarp or bivvy are absolutely essential for a decent night’s sleep outdoors. Anything more than one night you have to have a real sleeping solution.
Consider getting matching triathlon transition bags. Zoot and Tyr are the brands I'm most familiar with. Transition bags include wet and dry compartments and most include a shoe port, so you can stash an extra pair of shoes.
Here are some things that aren't on your list:
“Humanure” 😂😂 really that’s a good point though. Also duct tape!
I put one together last year after a weather-related emergency. It's designed to shelter at my workplace for 48-72 hours until weather clears and roads become passable, but it stays in my car and is therefore always accessible. I keep 3 MREs, seasonal clothes based around having layers, a very basic first aid kit with some toiletries, a battery pack for my phone, a small knife, and some petty cash. It does not contain water because, like I said, it's designed for sheltering at my workplace until I can make my way home. I live near my work, and the bag is meant to get me only a few miles overland. The vehicle, which is also accessible if the bag is, has a larger first aid kit, bottles for water, including single-walled steel, and outerwear too bulky to fit in the bag.
If you can't shelter in your vehicle these are small shelters that are pretty compact. Rab Group Shelter 2 Person - Men's MR-49-OR-2 , $5.01 Off with Free S&H — CampSaver https://share.google/PVJ2fY30FuR7YoYTh
A small bivy sack with a space blanket would be a good option.
these might be good for you to have. They’re small and you will probably never need them, but the one time you do you will be glad to have it
I don’t understand what these will do for me. Could you elaborate?
They are for turning on water spigots that don’t have a handle on them
Wow! Thank you! I couldn't find anything that specifically told me of what use these things were.
It won’t let me post a picture but they are usually found on the side of industrial buildings. Do an image search for “water spigot with key”
I have half of that stuff in my car in general. You are on the right track
That’s good to hear!
I gave my wife a big much like this for Christmas. It was not her favorite gift, but I told her it was mostly for me. She drives in the mountains, and probably 10 cars slide off the road each weekend. It can be hours or days before a tow service gets there, and in many areas there is no cell service. She would rather pretend it can never happen than be prepared at least. If I might take a bunch of space but let me comment item by item.
Food (protein bars, jerky, tuna packets, some candy) I just use the first two.
Water (I currently have 2 one liter bottles in each bag, which isn’t really enough but it adds so much weight) - yes
Small first aid kit - medium first aid kit. The little ones have band aids and aspirin. Those are convenient but trauma treatment is more important. Breathing support, blood support (constriction bands) and heating and cooling support.
Mylar blankets Yup
Hand warmers Yup
Extra socks - yes. Also a thermal windbreaker/rain jacket, hat, rain pants, You can always take off clothes, you need them to put more on. I would like to add boots, but out of room.
Hygiene stuff - Some but low priority. Brush your teeth when you get home.
Small fire making kit - road flares. You can use them to mark a safety area or signal for help and a 30 minute flare will start a fire anywhere.
Knife - in multi tool
Multi tool - yes
Gorilla tape.
Rope - paracord and a tow strap.
As you can tell, my focus is on car accident or such. I also add
This all
fitsis crammed into a standard day-pack. If I can figure how I would like to addThe glass breaker/seatbelt cutter needs to be within easy reach of the driver, not packed away in a bag. If you need it, you’ve just been in an accident and you need it NOW. There’s no time to rummage for it if there is a fire or the car is in water or is upside down.
I’ve seen accidents where the glove box and console pop open and the contents go everywhere. The breaker/cutter should be screwed down in an easily reachable place. They come with a bracket for just that reason.
Stay safe.
I totally agree. My wife is a head in the sand type as I mentioned. I asked her to keep in the back seat. She didn't didn't want the clutter and said she would keep it in the garage until she was going on a trip. We compromised on the trunk.
The seatbelt cutter and window breaker are useless there, but they are mostly for water landings. It's better than nothing
Is there a difference between a bug out bag and a 72 hour bag?
I am still learning. From what I’ve gathered through this post, it seems a bug out bag might be more geared towards surviving outdoors for a longer amount of time, and a 72 hour bag is the essentials you’ll need to survive for just 72 hours in a situation which may or may not be outdoors.
You should have something to start a fire , also a trap for shelter long enough to also be used as flooring to keep you aff the ground, the ground will take your body heat. You'll need a flashlight.
I have a get home bag, a bug out bag, and several shelter in place boxes. See no reason why I should put something I cannot carry in a backpack.
Some additional (nylon?) thread and needle (if not included in the multi tool) plus some adhesive tape. Doesn't take much, might be needed for repairs or improvising.
Mylar blankets are useful but it can also be very difficult to actually shelter in wind/rain/snow with them and not much else. Maybe you want a real emergency bivy bag. Or just one of the better modern ponchos of a size that is so big that you're nearly or fully covered while sitting/lying down anyhow. Or even a wool blanket - it's relatively heavy by comparison, but can be one of the heavier things actually worth carrying due to how much it helps.
You probably also want a headlamp with larger lipo batteries, not some hand crank light. Easily possible that you want to walk some hour(s) in the dark instead of taking another day to get home.
Definitely be familiar with your multi tool and have a good one.
For water, I would combine a portable filter like Sawyer/Katadyn/Lifestraw and bladder bag to take more water on demand with already filled normal pet bottles. Have like 3-4L of capacity and start with 1L minimum. Unless the area is very dry, in which case maybe you even need to start with an unpleasant to carry 4L+... but in dry areas I'd very much consider bikepacking (cargo bags or even offroad trailer on the bike) with quite a lot of water in multiple containers anyhow.
Keep it simple: Case of bottled water, 6 mre's (enough for 2) means of protection, couple blankets if needed. reliable flashlight. I think we sometimes over complicate things. I'm 60, a fire kit does me absolutely no good as I would just use a bic lighter, couple of cotton balls in vasoline, firekit done. Hygene for 3 days? tooth brush and paste, pit stick, hand wipes, done. Cell phones can get radio and have spare cash between the phone and case... I'm thinking this is sufficient, that's just me. On a realistic situation, yeah my car is hit and I'm off the road in a ditch, EMP? Naw, road rage victim? possibly, inclement weather in Texas? absolutely. Keep it as realistic and minimum as possible, cheers...
Two hours driving is what 100+ miles? unless you are a seasoned long distance hiker that isnt something you can just do on a whim without serious injury, especially if its only over 3 days. Hiking that takes leaving in the dark and stopping for the night in the dark. If this is a serous thing you are thinking about just having a some items in a bag isnt even the start of what you need. Doing all of that after or during a bad storm is going to make it at least 10 times harder.
A shelter in place bag is realistic for that distance away from home. I would focus on setting up for that and not compromising that side of it.
70 miles according to gps. It’s mostly city driving so takes longer than highways. GPS says it would be about a two day walk, and I’m assuming that’s full speed ahead, no stops. So likely it would take us every bit of 3-4 days to make it.
We’re in pretty good shape, mid 30s, do a lot of camping/hiking/ kayaking stuff when the weather is nice, and work out regularly. I think we could do it in an emergency situation, but it would certainly not be easy. We’d be sore, shin splints, blisters, exhausted….
Add bad winter weather to that hike, and it would definitely be a struggle. This has me thinking more food would be good to add to the bag. If there’s extra space I’ll likely make that a priority.
My parents live a little over halfway away from our starting point to home base, we’d be able to rest there for a bit and get some food I guess
Things to address the issues are good for the bag too, advil, moleskin for blisters, caffine pills if you need them. Trekking poles help a lot too. Having multiple checkpoints along the way is great, if you were to get separated from your wife then knowing the next checkpoint to both meet at gets you back together sooner than hoping the other makes it all the way home.
I’m a woman and my partner is a man. I know my little icon is misleading 😂, I don’t know how to change it.
But I agree with the point of your post; hiking is hard and first aid measures for small things like a blister can become huge issues given the circumstance. I really do appreciate you sharing that bit of wisdom.
Look into a folding hand cart/hand truck/dolly/luggage cart. This is the one I have, and it can move 110lbs. Or you can even just use a carry on suitcase.
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Seems like a BOB with shelter omitted
Your answer is in a big bag with removable small bag. Anything you’d want for shelter in place but NOT for get home goes in the big part. The small part is a grab and go. Obviously there’s some overlap like an MRE or two to get home but 2-3 more for shelter in place. Consider what sheltering in place looks like. Are you sleeping in the car? The office? Etc. that all looks different. Can you play off some stuff at the office as “office supplies” but things you actually would need? Think a flashlight, maybe a small first aid kit, hygiene (fingernail clippers, scissors, a needle for splinters of corse!, and dental floss that can be used to sew things up if need be), maybe some granola bars that you rotate at work when you get to 3 or something.
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I think it is called go home bag?
Btw the settings is good! But like what others say, if the car stuck on the road, it would be more difficult.
Your list has a lot of bases covered. I would add an insulated sleeping bag liner for each of you for added warmth. They take up much less space than a sleeping bag and can be used in conjunction with the Mylar blankets for added warmth.
I really like this idea.
I appreciate all input and I’m considering it, but small things like this is the point of my post.
I have limited capacity and I don’t know the length of time nor space I’ll need to survive.
I don’t really understand the need for a bag to shelter in place at home. Isn’t that where all your stuff is anyway?
This is for if I have to shelter in place somewhere that isn’t home, until I can get home.