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Yes, they reported that the doj said that it was a fake.
They reported later that the DoJ said it was fake. But I saw multiple segments starting at the top of the hour talking about the post card before the DoJ statement.
At the end of the day, the American people, by and large, believe that we can resolve this problem peacefully. People aren't going to take to the streets and overthrow the government while they still believe they can vote this out of office.
They may be right. They might not be. But while the avenue appears to be open, we need to try.
part of the problem is we've reduced the viable pathways for the American people to take back power to either voting or violence when in reality we have a much more efficient answer: general strike
True. Canada just played a 60 minute documentary on the off-shore American Gulags and the torture that goes on there, and that's quickly become an international incident because the US press censored and pulled the documentary until it can be properly revised to comply with Great leaders messaging.
Corporations don't like your rights, consumer protections, or worker protections, and they hate regulation. Trump offers them a way around all of it for a price. They like him, and they don't give a shit about you. That's why they sanewashed him and his campaign before the election.
We will not progress any further than we have if we don't all recognize this as the nature of the beast. We don't have to like it or accept it as our fate, but each and every one of us needs to square with the fact that corporate news and corporate media in general is helping obscure reality, rather than helping inform the public. This includes outlets and programming involving some celebrity names and faces that we looked up to and respected in the America of yesteryear.
These people and institutions need to be called out for remaining complicit in the policing of the narative, and it's going to feel like beating a dead horse, as we are the only ones who can carry the message. Lord knows these outlets won't push the message for us.
If they are taking money from these entities that are backing the removal of your rights, they are not on your side. They are not speaking as an American citizen. They are speaking as a member of the protected privileged class. If they are staying in line with this bullshit enough to stay on the payroll, they should be viewed with suspicion at very least. Anyone with a far reaching platform who uses it to downplay the actions of the regime or uses it to tell you you are over reacting to the overthrow of your democracy, they should not be assumed to have any solidarity with We The People.
And anyone who matters seems to be okay with the president threatening to pull licenses if an outlet publishes something he doesn’t like. Or with the president threatening to sue media outlets who say things he doesn’t like.
Because it was from an anonymous tip line. The tip was recieved in 2020 on events that occurred in 1984. Trump isnt known to have met Epstein until the late 1980s. Further, they're on a yacht in a random lake in Minnesota that Epstein has no affiliation to There's no credence to it at all. It would get ripped apart the second it was published.
As much as we all want to see trump burn for anything, and we all know he is capable of this - this is the truth.
That said there are redactions and those redactions might corroborate with other recordings done way back then, so any reputable news source likely is going through the motions of checking if this accusation has any legs at all before breaking any stories on it.
What crazy is that they redacted, “force me to [REDACTED] with him”. What exactly else is that redaction protecting except the person being accused of a crime.
I'm going to be so fucking mad if cocaine is what gets this guy brought down. That's like the most American thing ever for the billionaire child rapist to be allowed to be a billionaire child rapist but not a drug user.
I really want someone like Maddow or Mehdi Hasan to grab this and run with it. They are a few of the mainstream folks that could do these stories justice
Hi, this is Nikki from the Guardian US audience team. Here's more from the story above.
From The Guardian:
People examining documents released by the Department of Justice in the Jeffrey Epstein case discovered that some of the file redaction can be undone with Photoshop techniques, or by simply highlighting text to paste into a word processing file.
Un-redacted text from these documents began circulating through social media on Monday evening. An exhibit /2022.03.17-1%20Exhibit%201.pdf)in a civil case in the Virgin Islands against Darren K Indyke and Richard D Kahn, two executors of Epstein’s estate, contains redacted allegations explaining how Epstein and his associates had facilitated the sexual abuse of children. The exhibit was the second amended complaint in the state case against Indyke and Kahn.
In section 85, the redacted portion states: “Between September 2015 and June 2019, Indyke signed (FAC) for over $400,000 made payable to young female models and actresses, including a former Russian model who received over $380,000 through monthly payments of $8,333 made over a period of more than three and a half years until the middle of 2019.”
Prosecutors in the Virgin Islands settled its civil sex-trafficking case against Epstein’s estate, Indyke and Kahn in 2022 for $105m , plus one half of the proceeds from the sale of Little St James, the island on which Epstein resided and on which many of his crimes occurred. The DoJ press release announcing the settlement did not include an admission of liability.
Indyke, an attorney who represented Epstein for decades, has not been criminally indicted by federal authorities. He was hired by the Parlatore Law Group in 2022, before the DoJ settled the Epstein case. That firm represents Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and previously represented Donald Trump in his defense against charges stemming from the discovery of classified government documents stored at Trump’s Florida estate. Calls and email seeking comment from Indyke and the Parlatore Law Group have not yet been returned.
Trump has repeatedly denied any knowledge of or involvement in Epstein’s criminal activities and any wrongdoing.
Great job, and keep up the great work. This is why I donate to The Guardian. Also, please note the document that's being spread in these comments where Trump is accused by a witness of infanticide and the DOJ evidently didn't redact his name. This seems like a bombshell accusation that readers would be highly interested in.
The just blocked all ability to search “Trump” in the files. Less than an hour ago you could search “Trump “ with a space and it worked, now it doesn’t. Not “Don” not “J. Trump”, not eve “J.”
Edit: seems the department is trying different methods, searching Trump currently works… for now.
I mean why wouldn't it happen. It was basically inevitable that it would.
This is the problem with any system that does not take demonstrable acts of coverup as incontrovertible proof of guilt.
If you're sitting on a giant stack of files detailing the crimes you committed - not just balan crimes like tax evasion but sensational, gruesome sexual violence against children - logically your best course of action is to cover them up.
What do you have to lose? Either your coverrup fails, and you're in the same situation but have stalled for time, or it succeeds, in which case your guilt is suspected but you escape any penalties.
This is our current justice system. There was never anything else they were going to do because it was always the most logical thing for them to do, given the way our legal system works.
The only thing that would have incentivized them to publish the truth would be morals, which, if you rape children or work for people that do, you clearly do not have in the first place.
If the Lake Michigan baby turns out to be 100% factual I'll love to watch Republicans try to defend that (the words "Donald Trump watched us dispose of a murdered baby in lake Michigan" is 100% in the files, but I haven't seen if there's any corroborating evidence to confirm that account is credible)
Honestly this level of "thoroughness" in their coverup really makes you wonder how easy it would be to break into Government sites/DBs now.....
Seems like they fired every competent individual and it's now abunch of incompetent idiots.
Edit: I have no intention of trying this, I'm merely musing....
They obtain them and release them, then the kompromat is no longer effective. Maybe Trump faces justice if the americans stop being a bunch of cowards but thats a very big if.
They keep the files to themselves and now they own the pedotus. And considering I dont think an actual russian or Chinese spy in the Whitehouse would do anything differently than what orangutits is, Id say they went with that option.
People need to duplicate the files, mirror them, and archive them; Don't trust tha they'll stay up and searchable on the government systems, especially as the news of failed redactions comes out.
They have been, which is what makes all their after-the-fact coverup stuff even funnier. Padlocking the barn when the horse is already 10 miles away and still running.
EDIT: I found the box to search specifically the "Epstein Library." Searching for Trump, no spaces, gives me nearly a thousand results. So I think the idea that they blocked the search term is false reporting.
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I can't find a way to search specifically the epstein files at all, I am only able to search the entire doj website, and searching "trump" there turns up nearly 700 hits. How are people searching just the epstein files (and finding the search term returns zero results)?
Wow. I’m getting sick just reading this. All the diehard MAGAs I unfortunately know are silent on this but going hard on Georgia’s illegal votes. This is sickening. Good luck DOJ in downplaying this.
Did anyone catch Trump's weird ass point about how the hepatitis vaccine isn't necessary for children. He said because it's mostly transmitted sexually. Instead he said it should be given when they're 12.
12!! As in, that's when he thinks they're nearing being sexual active. When he was asked on Howard Stern years ago if he has an age limit, he said, "I have no age limit. Well, I wouldn't date a 13 year old." As in, that's his age limit. 13!! The guy is a complete creep.
All the redactions seem oddly sized. Probably on purpose to make it harder to know what's being hidden. I imagine its "have sex" or "have intercourse".
The people rely on the system to cleanse itself. Bad actors are expected to be expunged or to honourably step down. When that doesn't happen there is only one other option.
That second option only works when how much you value your own life is less than how mad you are divided by how much faith you have in the system.
Americans aren't mad enough relative to how much they value their lives, and they still believe in the system. Three more years.
I also have a theory that the second amendment also makes it more difficult to have a proper protest, since any protest is able to become a shooting war in an instant, and the authorities have to treat it as an armed coup. Whereas anywhere else, there is a natural reluctance to being out the long guns - although it certainly does happen... usually that escalates things, although not in Hong Kong...
Maybe, I'm misunderstanding this. They had a bunch of documents that they were working on / looking through, and were afraid of never being able to find them again looking through the file saves.
They did not know that you could create a new folder, place it on the desktop, name it something relevant, and save all thr relevant documents to that folder. They also weren't saving their documents with a relevant title, which, yeah would make it difficult to find again.
I just broke down laughing, brilliant person, but atrocious tech skills.
I worked at a small State agency in 1997 that was being merged into a very large agency. One of the lawyers refused to upgrade their computer because their IT was famous for their gaffes.
I added a hard drive, copied all of their documents, verified the copy, pulled the drive and handed it to them to put in a drawer.
Sure enough, their IT guys lost their documents in the upgrade.
I copied the files to the new computer and went to a very nice steak lunch.
Oh God, lawyers are infamous for terrible file management. Many law firms use software that attaches every document to a billing account and tracks when/how long it's accessed and edited.
Lawyers who work in that kind of environment are often completely helpless when they have to organize their own files.
Oh my god, I'm a lawyer who used to be tech support. Well, I say "used to be" but I'm am frequently solving minor tech issues for my colleagues. Like, sure, it's not my job. Sure, we pay tech support. But I can also click two things and make my boss think I just performed a minor act of god. Like I get hired and am just like...y'all...we can't do this. We have 2000+ page files and they're not searchable. How do you people live?
Along the same lines, there are a couple judges who are frequently impressed by how "prepared" and "professional" I am when I can list off citations to the record for whatever random thing they just asked me about. Like nah judge...I just pre-cached my search and hit ctrl-F in the middle of the hearing.
As they say, technology, somewhat moderately advanced, is indistinguishable from magic to lawyers.
The Guardian gets a ton of hate on Reddit, but I’ve always found it to be a pretty decent news source overall. Maybe my standards for judging news are screwy.
I mean the most common form of "hacking" is social engineering, which is often literally just asking people questions they shouldn't be answering. The term has been used very broadly for a long time
People examining documents released by the Department of Justice in the Jeffrey Epstein case discovered that some of the file redaction can be undone with Photoshop techniques, or by simply highlighting text to paste into a word processing file.
We used an ”anonymous” egg donor to get pregnant and avoid a genetic disease, and the “anonymizing” was essentially white boxes drawn over the donor’s name in MS Word. Accidentally “hacked” the donor name when I cut and pasted the page to another document.
But you’d think the DOJ would be better at this than some random fertility clinic.
I'm not sure I agree with this statement. It is using technology for purposes other than its main purpose, in order to gain access to information you aren't supposed to have access to. That sounds like a hack to me.
A very low-grade hack, doable by a third-grader, and made possible only by stunning incompetence, but a hack nonetheless.
I used to be a stickler on this too, but nowadays it’s not true. Hacking is a very broad term that encompasses a whole lot of things, even those that are not technologically complex.
The phrase "Missouri hack just copy and paste" refers to a widely publicized incident where Missouri Governor Mike Parson incorrectly claimed that a St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter had "hacked" a state website by viewing its publicly available HTML source code
. The reporter's actions involved using standard web browser functions, which a prosecutor later confirmed was not a crime."
The most significant unredacted information concerns Darren K. Indyke, a longtime attorney and executor of Epstein's estate.
This confirms that Epstein's financial network was actively supporting young women through his lawyer/executor well into 2019, the year Epstein was arrested and died.
All of which highlights a political web connecting Epstein's inner circle to the current political landscape:
• Darren Indyke (Epstein's executor) is represented by the Parlatore Law Group.
• This firm also represents Pete Hegseth (the current Defense Secretary) and previously represented Donald Trump in the classified documents case.
• While Indyke himself has not been criminally indicted (he settled the Virgin Islands civil sex-trafficking case for $105 million in 2022 with no admission of liability), his proximity to the President’s legal defense team creates a complex conflict of interest and political headache for the administration.
The revelation of $380,000 paid to a single "Russian model" suggests a deep, ongoing financial relationship. The consistent monthly payments of ~$8,333 look less like one-off transactions for services and more like a salary or hush money (allowance). This supports the long-standing allegation that Epstein’s "structure" of abuse and financial control continued uninterrupted by his 2008 conviction.
While the Virgin Islands case was settled, these unredacted details could spur new inquiries. If the payments were for illicit purposes (sex trafficking or silence regarding crimes), they could theoretically open avenues for new civil suits or scrutiny, although Indyke's prior settlement was comprehensive.
I made this comment before that became widespread. Although the ability to bring charges via the suppression of evidence (hush money) is more actionable IMO vs an FBI tip line report alleging something so horrendously vile. Sure, public opinion can have more consequences for the latter but this is all happening so quickly.. it’ll be interesting to see how this all shakes out by end of week.
i have a feeling it’s not actually stupidity, but an agent who was tasked to redact it got fed up and risked their job to do this hoping someone would find it out
This reads more like team or agency wide malicious compliance, where the agents were told to "black these parts out" before release and did literally what they were asked not what [they understood] they were being asked to do.
Prolly just some young kid sharing their word skills with other teammates by placing boxes and be like just follow these steps ezpz lemon squeezie lmao
Probably just incompetence. This isn't the first time redacted documents have been released where you could just copy and paste the text somewhere else.
Honestly? Me too. I was taught how to redact PII from documents within the first few months of my very first government job, and I wasn’t working on anything nearly as public as this. Either someone went rogue or they’re just hiring people from Fiver to do their dirty work.
Pretty sure this exact scenario has happened multiple times. A huge number of people are very tech illiterate so unfortunately I'd bet more money on incompetence than sabotage. Especially given this administration's DEI policies.
I suspect that due to the sheer volume of files, they brought in people who are unfamiliar with the redaction process, got sloppy and cut corners. Then, as there is no time for QC because the deadline, they slipped through.
I also suspect that within that group of people, there were those who knew what they were doing and knew it would slip through due to the time crunch.
“Indyke, an attorney who represented Epstein for decades, has not been criminally indicted by federal authorities. He was hired by the Parlatore Law Group in 2022, before the DoJ settled the Epstein case. That firm represents Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and previously represented Donald Trump in his defense against charges stemming from the discovery of classified government documents stored at Trump’s Florida estate”
Don’t even have to “hack”. They made a mistake from the early 2000’s and used insecure redaction methods. I can only guess one of two situations happened there… they put someone incompetent on the task, which wouldn’t be surprising… as they have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to mouth breathers in their ranks… or… somebody’s a slightly tech savvy patriot who wanted the stuff to be reversible.
Someone on Reddit was lamenting that we would never see the light of day with those files and I countered “you sure are putting a lot of faith in this administrations ability to actually censor something”.
And it’s true. The way in which they redacted the files is easily undone by anyone with passable knowledge of meta data.
Their lukewarm temperature IQ gophers are obviously going to miss names and photos of Trump when they are going through them at break neck speed. Anyone in those types of work environments will tell you if you don’t complete a task on time you just go onto the next one. 😂
I've had to redact a document without access to acrobat pro or some other tool to do it a foolproof way. So I loaded it in inkscape and deleted the text before making a black box over the blank space. Finally I checked for the strings I deleted with a grep command.
It always amazes me when it turns out I'm more competent than people with thousands of times the power that I have.
Then again, Im not a fucking idiot like people in the Trump administration.
The pdf spec is sprawling, and i guess there is a chance that there are encodings for plaintext that command line tools wouldnt be able to interpret.
The ones I worked with didn't do that. I could open them in vim and read the offending text clear as day. And my grep search showed the text before the redaction and didn't after. As I said... Im not a fucking idiot! :)
Open up a random text heavy pdf in vim or some other plaintext editor, and I'll bet youll be surprised at how much you can read.
It bothers me more that the DOJ has actively broken the ability to search for Trump and his associates, redacted their names over every document released but actively left the names of the victims unredacted in a large amount of the files. I mean, we know it’s a coverup, but it’s so fucking blatant it’s disgusting.
My wife pointed out something very important and it had not give full thought to.
Please if anyone is going to post unredacted information, make sure the victim’s names are still blacked out. They do not deserve to be a victim twice.
I want nothing more than to see the monsters in this file brought to justice, and I’ll admit I am torn in terms of the urge to see justice and the rights of the victims. It’s not a clear cut case.
"Redactions of sections 184 through 192 of the document describe property taxes paid by companies incorporated by Epstein on properties that were not on the balance sheet for those firms.
“For instance, Cypress’s Balance Sheet as of December 31, 2018 did not reflect any assets other than cash of $18,824. Further, Cypress reported only $301 in expenses for the year ended December 31, 2018, despite it paying $106,394.60 in Santa Fe property taxes on November 6, 2018,” reads one redacted passage.
“Similarly, in 2017, Cypress reported as its only asset cash in the amount of $29,736 and expenses of $150, despite it paying $55,770.41 and $113,679.56 in Santa Fe property taxes during 2017.”"
The files have all been downloaded, saved, and uploaded on other searchable sites.
The moment the DOJ uploaded them they lost the ability to control it. The only negative is it means they aren't going to release anything else. Which will trigger more lawsuits and the hope that the real incriminating evidence has already been released, the DOJ just figured it was "redacted".
Look, it's all coming out regardless. It's just a matter of when.
I think they mean it would have been better if all the files were released with the error. We have interrupted the enemy while they were making a mistake, because they may fix it in the future releases.
What’s crazy about this is there are tons of document review softwares that lawyers and paralegals use everyday that make sure this exact thing doesn’t happen. Instead of using that software which they certainly had they drew black boxes over things with whatever software and assumed it was good.
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No need to undo this though, they forgot to react the claim he was accessory to infanticide.
Page 3
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf
I don’t understand why this isn’t top news.
It’s because there is no free press anymore. Journalism has been bought and paid for. Real question is, what are We The People gonna do about it?
Yup. CNN reported minutes after the initial drops that Clinton was in the photos but they’ve been near radio silence since
They reported on the Epstein / Nassar letter talking about Trump liking nubile girls.
Yes, they reported that the doj said that it was a fake.
They reported later that the DoJ said it was fake. But I saw multiple segments starting at the top of the hour talking about the post card before the DoJ statement.
And suggested that it was Epstein lying about things to get back at Trump. Amazing commentary CNN. /s
How are so many people just so evil? Like knowingly evil, knowingly cowardly allowing so much evil? No one stands up? No one tries?
And nobody will do anything…
I've said this before, and I'll say it again:
At the end of the day, the American people, by and large, believe that we can resolve this problem peacefully. People aren't going to take to the streets and overthrow the government while they still believe they can vote this out of office.
They may be right. They might not be. But while the avenue appears to be open, we need to try.
part of the problem is we've reduced the viable pathways for the American people to take back power to either voting or violence when in reality we have a much more efficient answer: general strike
On the conservative sub they’re saying “nimble” girls
Well, yeah, I'd fucking run from Trump too if I was an underage girl.
Conservasub can't even manage to make up the most minorly convincing bullshit possible to scrub this one.
It’s called the FBI and CIA will wipe their families and livelihoods out
True. Canada just played a 60 minute documentary on the off-shore American Gulags and the torture that goes on there, and that's quickly become an international incident because the US press censored and pulled the documentary until it can be properly revised to comply with Great leaders messaging.
Part where they were forced to drink all grey water, toilet water was horrible.
whoaaaa what
we talking about CECOT or somewhere else?
https://archive.org/details/insidececot
Yes, as per the interview in the 60 minutes piece detainees had no access to clean water.
To be clear, it was a 15 minute report on the show "60 minutes".
https://archive.org/details/insidececot
Corporations own the majority of news outlets.
Corporations don't like your rights, consumer protections, or worker protections, and they hate regulation. Trump offers them a way around all of it for a price. They like him, and they don't give a shit about you. That's why they sanewashed him and his campaign before the election.
We will not progress any further than we have if we don't all recognize this as the nature of the beast. We don't have to like it or accept it as our fate, but each and every one of us needs to square with the fact that corporate news and corporate media in general is helping obscure reality, rather than helping inform the public. This includes outlets and programming involving some celebrity names and faces that we looked up to and respected in the America of yesteryear.
These people and institutions need to be called out for remaining complicit in the policing of the narative, and it's going to feel like beating a dead horse, as we are the only ones who can carry the message. Lord knows these outlets won't push the message for us.
If they are taking money from these entities that are backing the removal of your rights, they are not on your side. They are not speaking as an American citizen. They are speaking as a member of the protected privileged class. If they are staying in line with this bullshit enough to stay on the payroll, they should be viewed with suspicion at very least. Anyone with a far reaching platform who uses it to downplay the actions of the regime or uses it to tell you you are over reacting to the overthrow of your democracy, they should not be assumed to have any solidarity with We The People.
Because right wing billionaires have spent the last 10 years buying up every media outlet they could
And anyone who matters seems to be okay with the president threatening to pull licenses if an outlet publishes something he doesn’t like. Or with the president threatening to sue media outlets who say things he doesn’t like.
this. what in the actual hell?
To be clear, I think he has been involved with this shit. Full stop.
Because it's an unsubstantiated allegation made to a tip line before the election. Just because it's in the files doesn't mean it is true.
It certainly means he was investigated for the accusation of raping a child. Where's the case file for this one? Any follow ups?
Because it was from an anonymous tip line. The tip was recieved in 2020 on events that occurred in 1984. Trump isnt known to have met Epstein until the late 1980s. Further, they're on a yacht in a random lake in Minnesota that Epstein has no affiliation to There's no credence to it at all. It would get ripped apart the second it was published.
As much as we all want to see trump burn for anything, and we all know he is capable of this - this is the truth.
That said there are redactions and those redactions might corroborate with other recordings done way back then, so any reputable news source likely is going through the motions of checking if this accusation has any legs at all before breaking any stories on it.
“Whatever you’re thinking about Trump, the truth is always worse.”
He’s like that annoying coworker who keeps amazing you that someone could be that terrible, and he has nuclear codes
What crazy is that they redacted, “force me to [REDACTED] with him”. What exactly else is that redaction protecting except the person being accused of a crime.
Also why is that redacted but killing the infant isn't? Like, what's the line that's being used here? Very confusing.
They might not want the public calling for him to be drug tested because they probably don't think he'd pass
I'm going to be so fucking mad if cocaine is what gets this guy brought down. That's like the most American thing ever for the billionaire child rapist to be allowed to be a billionaire child rapist but not a drug user.
It's cocaine.
You know how one of Trump's boisterous claims is that he doesn't drink? It’s because hes a fucking stimulant fiend. He's not sober at all.
Ugh I wish I hadn't read that.
I read she committed suicide by shooting herself. Yep I believe that.
That explains quite a bit about their weird fetus vampirism conspiracies, huh.
All the pro-lifers and “post birth abortion” folks are awfully silent on this one.
And Possiblly filicide (that's when the child is your own.)
Otherwise, why witness.
I may be thick, but where is Trump mentioned in this document?
EDIT: Third page. Missed it. Holy hell what a horrible story and what a shit human being. May he suffer and rot in hell
Page 3
I had skipped it. Fuck that’s grim 😞
I really want someone like Maddow or Mehdi Hasan to grab this and run with it. They are a few of the mainstream folks that could do these stories justice
Hi, this is Nikki from the Guardian US audience team. Here's more from the story above.
From The Guardian:
People examining documents released by the Department of Justice in the Jeffrey Epstein case discovered that some of the file redaction can be undone with Photoshop techniques, or by simply highlighting text to paste into a word processing file.
Un-redacted text from these documents began circulating through social media on Monday evening. An exhibit /2022.03.17-1%20Exhibit%201.pdf)in a civil case in the Virgin Islands against Darren K Indyke and Richard D Kahn, two executors of Epstein’s estate, contains redacted allegations explaining how Epstein and his associates had facilitated the sexual abuse of children. The exhibit was the second amended complaint in the state case against Indyke and Kahn.
In section 85, the redacted portion states: “Between September 2015 and June 2019, Indyke signed (FAC) for over $400,000 made payable to young female models and actresses, including a former Russian model who received over $380,000 through monthly payments of $8,333 made over a period of more than three and a half years until the middle of 2019.”
Prosecutors in the Virgin Islands settled its civil sex-trafficking case against Epstein’s estate, Indyke and Kahn in 2022 for $105m , plus one half of the proceeds from the sale of Little St James, the island on which Epstein resided and on which many of his crimes occurred. The DoJ press release announcing the settlement did not include an admission of liability.
Indyke, an attorney who represented Epstein for decades, has not been criminally indicted by federal authorities. He was hired by the Parlatore Law Group in 2022, before the DoJ settled the Epstein case. That firm represents Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and previously represented Donald Trump in his defense against charges stemming from the discovery of classified government documents stored at Trump’s Florida estate. Calls and email seeking comment from Indyke and the Parlatore Law Group have not yet been returned.
Trump has repeatedly denied any knowledge of or involvement in Epstein’s criminal activities and any wrongdoing.
You can read the full story for free at this link.
Thanks for the link…Can we get Attn Gen George working HERE?? Jeeze. I’d love to see some of that energy working on this here and now.
Great job, and keep up the great work. This is why I donate to The Guardian. Also, please note the document that's being spread in these comments where Trump is accused by a witness of infanticide and the DOJ evidently didn't redact his name. This seems like a bombshell accusation that readers would be highly interested in.
The just blocked all ability to search “Trump” in the files. Less than an hour ago you could search “Trump “ with a space and it worked, now it doesn’t. Not “Don” not “J. Trump”, not eve “J.”
Edit: seems the department is trying different methods, searching Trump currently works… for now.
Its called a cover up
They are releasing documents with the content literally covered up
I joked about this before the release and I am still a bit astounded that it actually happened.
I mean why wouldn't it happen. It was basically inevitable that it would.
This is the problem with any system that does not take demonstrable acts of coverup as incontrovertible proof of guilt.
If you're sitting on a giant stack of files detailing the crimes you committed - not just balan crimes like tax evasion but sensational, gruesome sexual violence against children - logically your best course of action is to cover them up.
What do you have to lose? Either your coverrup fails, and you're in the same situation but have stalled for time, or it succeeds, in which case your guilt is suspected but you escape any penalties.
This is our current justice system. There was never anything else they were going to do because it was always the most logical thing for them to do, given the way our legal system works.
The only thing that would have incentivized them to publish the truth would be morals, which, if you rape children or work for people that do, you clearly do not have in the first place.
If the Lake Michigan baby turns out to be 100% factual I'll love to watch Republicans try to defend that (the words "Donald Trump watched us dispose of a murdered baby in lake Michigan" is 100% in the files, but I haven't seen if there's any corroborating evidence to confirm that account is credible)
Of course, you can still search for " trump" with the leading space and it works fine.
Not sure if incompetence or malicious compliance, but either way it's pretty funny.
And if they change that you can just add any letter space Trump or Trump space any letter.
Stuff like that makes me wonder if it's such a shoddy job that it's vulnerable to Bobby Tables (but I've no interest in being the person to try it).
https://xkcd.com/327/
Honestly this level of "thoroughness" in their coverup really makes you wonder how easy it would be to break into Government sites/DBs now.....
Seems like they fired every competent individual and it's now abunch of incompetent idiots.
Edit: I have no intention of trying this, I'm merely musing....
Yo China, if you're listening...
Them & Russia are already in my man.
Thank Comrade Elon.
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They obtain them and release them, then the kompromat is no longer effective. Maybe Trump faces justice if the americans stop being a bunch of cowards but thats a very big if.
They keep the files to themselves and now they own the pedotus. And considering I dont think an actual russian or Chinese spy in the Whitehouse would do anything differently than what orangutits is, Id say they went with that option.
Regex r hard :(
How about malicious incompetence?
Weird, why would they do that? I figured they'd want to make the documents featuring Trump front-and-center to prove his innocence and clear his name!
One would think….
if one could think
People need to duplicate the files, mirror them, and archive them; Don't trust tha they'll stay up and searchable on the government systems, especially as the news of failed redactions comes out.
They have been, which is what makes all their after-the-fact coverup stuff even funnier. Padlocking the barn when the horse is already 10 miles away and still running.
Jmail.world is your friend
I expect they were scraped within about 10 mins of them dropping.
Meidas Touch announced on their socials that they have done exactly this.
Have you tried "rump"
EDIT: I found the box to search specifically the "Epstein Library." Searching for Trump, no spaces, gives me nearly a thousand results. So I think the idea that they blocked the search term is false reporting.
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I can't find a way to search specifically the epstein files at all, I am only able to search the entire doj website, and searching "trump" there turns up nearly 700 hits. How are people searching just the epstein files (and finding the search term returns zero results)?
It does now, it wasn’t earlier. And hasn’t been for a few days. Seems like they keep trying different things.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf
Spread this everywhere. Document EFTA00025010.
Wow. I’m getting sick just reading this. All the diehard MAGAs I unfortunately know are silent on this but going hard on Georgia’s illegal votes. This is sickening. Good luck DOJ in downplaying this.
This explains his weird obsession with insisting that "post birth abortion" is a thing.
Oh god.
Did anyone catch Trump's weird ass point about how the hepatitis vaccine isn't necessary for children. He said because it's mostly transmitted sexually. Instead he said it should be given when they're 12.
12!! As in, that's when he thinks they're nearing being sexual active. When he was asked on Howard Stern years ago if he has an age limit, he said, "I have no age limit. Well, I wouldn't date a 13 year old." As in, that's his age limit. 13!! The guy is a complete creep.
Who is redacting "forced me to [Redacted] with him"
We all know what that says! And its literally the crime! When did we start redacting the crime on reports?
I’m not a native speaker and wondered what’s actually redacted since it seems to be a long word. Is it something like “have intercourse”?
All the redactions seem oddly sized. Probably on purpose to make it harder to know what's being hidden. I imagine its "have sex" or "have intercourse".
Counting the letter spaces it seems like "have intercourse."
It may be "forced me to do cocaine..."
The weird thing is why would that be redacted but killing an infant and disposing of them in Lake Michigan wouldn’t be? That’s the line?
"forced me to /do/ [Redacted] with him"
Probably cocaine in context. Redacted to protect the victim from self-incrimination.
What a horrible day to have eyes and be literate. We're talking about little girls here, children, my heart breaks for them.
And literal infants. I feel sick.
How is he still in office? I don't understand. Why are Americans not setting shit on fire? What is happening?!
The people rely on the system to cleanse itself. Bad actors are expected to be expunged or to honourably step down. When that doesn't happen there is only one other option.
That second option only works when how much you value your own life is less than how mad you are divided by how much faith you have in the system.
Americans aren't mad enough relative to how much they value their lives, and they still believe in the system. Three more years.
I also have a theory that the second amendment also makes it more difficult to have a proper protest, since any protest is able to become a shooting war in an instant, and the authorities have to treat it as an armed coup. Whereas anywhere else, there is a natural reluctance to being out the long guns - although it certainly does happen... usually that escalates things, although not in Hong Kong...
Does the Internet still work in the US? Supermarkets still have food for sale? If so, Americans won't do shit.
Someone share this on the conservative sub
you'd get instantly banned for daring to question their orange leader
Copy and pasting redacted text into a word processor is not a "hack".
The media as a whole is staggeringly tech-illiterate
So is most of
it'sits audience.Edit: Its, not it's, I get it. If correcting grammar online is how you get your dopamine hits, then you need to get a fucking life.
Fair enough
Its
Reddit as a whole is staggeringly illiterate
*hole
I used to know a lawyer that didn't know you could create separate folders and store documents in them. Had 100+ active word documents open...
The files are IN the computer?!?
Its so simple
Maybe, I'm misunderstanding this. They had a bunch of documents that they were working on / looking through, and were afraid of never being able to find them again looking through the file saves.
They did not know that you could create a new folder, place it on the desktop, name it something relevant, and save all thr relevant documents to that folder. They also weren't saving their documents with a relevant title, which, yeah would make it difficult to find again.
I just broke down laughing, brilliant person, but atrocious tech skills.
I worked at a small State agency in 1997 that was being merged into a very large agency. One of the lawyers refused to upgrade their computer because their IT was famous for their gaffes.
I added a hard drive, copied all of their documents, verified the copy, pulled the drive and handed it to them to put in a drawer.
Sure enough, their IT guys lost their documents in the upgrade.
I copied the files to the new computer and went to a very nice steak lunch.
Oh God, lawyers are infamous for terrible file management. Many law firms use software that attaches every document to a billing account and tracks when/how long it's accessed and edited.
Lawyers who work in that kind of environment are often completely helpless when they have to organize their own files.
Oh my god, I'm a lawyer who used to be tech support. Well, I say "used to be" but I'm am frequently solving minor tech issues for my colleagues. Like, sure, it's not my job. Sure, we pay tech support. But I can also click two things and make my boss think I just performed a minor act of god. Like I get hired and am just like...y'all...we can't do this. We have 2000+ page files and they're not searchable. How do you people live?
Along the same lines, there are a couple judges who are frequently impressed by how "prepared" and "professional" I am when I can list off citations to the record for whatever random thing they just asked me about. Like nah judge...I just pre-cached my search and hit ctrl-F in the middle of the hearing.
As they say, technology, somewhat moderately advanced, is indistinguishable from magic to lawyers.
The media writes for clickbait. It's all financial incentive.
Edit: Not to say they can't ALSO be tech illiterate, but still...
But The Guardian does excellent work and we should support good journalism.
Yeah, that is the more likely answer
please, people say this shit everywhere.
the guardian is awesome.
The Guardian gets a ton of hate on Reddit, but I’ve always found it to be a pretty decent news source overall. Maybe my standards for judging news are screwy.
nope it's a great source. Redditors are often screwy. it's very well known and respected in the UK.
and there are a LOT of bots here.
The "hacker known as 4chan" strikes again.
notepad is now hacking
Using a desktop pc is now considered hacking to people who only use smartphones
Only true hackers need a physical mouse and keyboard. And of course their black ski mask.
you forgot the hoodie.
Peeling an egg under a tap is a hack.
Drinking hot water after eating a ghost pepper is a hack
Wait? That works?
Just needs to be hot enough to burn a layer of skin off the roof of your mouth … then you no longer mind the pepper
I mean the most common form of "hacking" is social engineering, which is often literally just asking people questions they shouldn't be answering. The term has been used very broadly for a long time
That's how Mitnick got most of his information.
Could be intentional by a good actor who wants this info out.
The first paragraph of the article:
came here to say this, lol
the "redaction" was done with the tech equivalent of posting sticky notes over the text they wanted hidden.
the "hack" is removing the sticky notes
We used an ”anonymous” egg donor to get pregnant and avoid a genetic disease, and the “anonymizing” was essentially white boxes drawn over the donor’s name in MS Word. Accidentally “hacked” the donor name when I cut and pasted the page to another document.
But you’d think the DOJ would be better at this than some random fertility clinic.
Thats... thats it?
The feds... cant possibly be this inept?
I actually live in an idiocracy movie...
Consider that this could be malicious compliance by feds that are opposed to the current regime.
You want me to redact files to protect pedophiles? You'll fire me if I don't? Ok...
Wouldn’t a “hack” just be a workaround? This seems like a workaround. One I wouldn’t assume is accurate, but a workaround nonetheless.
I'm not sure I agree with this statement. It is using technology for purposes other than its main purpose, in order to gain access to information you aren't supposed to have access to. That sounds like a hack to me.
A very low-grade hack, doable by a third-grader, and made possible only by stunning incompetence, but a hack nonetheless.
Strong agree it's a hack. Hacks definitely do not have to be complicated! A hack is simply getting unauthorized access with a computer.
The stunning incompetence of the censors certainly made this trivial, but the censors absolutely intended to "protect" the data. Whoops!
I used to be a stickler on this too, but nowadays it’s not true. Hacking is a very broad term that encompasses a whole lot of things, even those that are not technologically complex.
The state of Missouri would disagree with that.
"missouri hack just copy and paste



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The phrase "Missouri hack just copy and paste" refers to a widely publicized incident where Missouri Governor Mike Parson incorrectly claimed that a St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter had "hacked" a state website by viewing its publicly available HTML source code
. The reporter's actions involved using standard web browser functions, which a prosecutor later confirmed was not a crime."
The most significant unredacted information concerns Darren K. Indyke, a longtime attorney and executor of Epstein's estate.
This confirms that Epstein's financial network was actively supporting young women through his lawyer/executor well into 2019, the year Epstein was arrested and died.
All of which highlights a political web connecting Epstein's inner circle to the current political landscape:
• Darren Indyke (Epstein's executor) is represented by the Parlatore Law Group.
• This firm also represents Pete Hegseth (the current Defense Secretary) and previously represented Donald Trump in the classified documents case.
• While Indyke himself has not been criminally indicted (he settled the Virgin Islands civil sex-trafficking case for $105 million in 2022 with no admission of liability), his proximity to the President’s legal defense team creates a complex conflict of interest and political headache for the administration.
The revelation of $380,000 paid to a single "Russian model" suggests a deep, ongoing financial relationship. The consistent monthly payments of ~$8,333 look less like one-off transactions for services and more like a salary or hush money (allowance). This supports the long-standing allegation that Epstein’s "structure" of abuse and financial control continued uninterrupted by his 2008 conviction.
While the Virgin Islands case was settled, these unredacted details could spur new inquiries. If the payments were for illicit purposes (sex trafficking or silence regarding crimes), they could theoretically open avenues for new civil suits or scrutiny, although Indyke's prior settlement was comprehensive.
Idk, I feel like the report that the president was an alleged accessory to infanticide might be the most significant revelation.
I made this comment before that became widespread. Although the ability to bring charges via the suppression of evidence (hush money) is more actionable IMO vs an FBI tip line report alleging something so horrendously vile. Sure, public opinion can have more consequences for the latter but this is all happening so quickly.. it’ll be interesting to see how this all shakes out by end of week.
I knew they were incompetent enough for this to happen
Never attribute to incompetence what can be explained as malicious compliance.
I wonder if they did too, however.
Perhaps the release roll out is intentional to expose holes in their redaction process so they can close those up for the worst documents.
my brother, what is worse than semi evidently raping a minor, and having her UNCLE kill the infant? or blowing the head off of a victim?
i have a feeling it’s not actually stupidity, but an agent who was tasked to redact it got fed up and risked their job to do this hoping someone would find it out
Doubt its a single agent.
Too much work for one person.
This reads more like team or agency wide malicious compliance, where the agents were told to "black these parts out" before release and did literally what they were asked not what [they understood] they were being asked to do.
Prolly just some young kid sharing their word skills with other teammates by placing boxes and be like just follow these steps ezpz lemon squeezie lmao
Or just used a highlighter, but made the colour black
Imagine this is why they're actually late releasing it lmao fuck it we ball
Maybe they thought that journalists were going to get print-outs of the files rather than the actual files.
The people I know in the government malicious compliance would just be let the idiots they put to do it do a bad job at it. Doge is filled with morons
Probably just incompetence. This isn't the first time redacted documents have been released where you could just copy and paste the text somewhere else.
I want to beleive this
Honestly? Me too. I was taught how to redact PII from documents within the first few months of my very first government job, and I wasn’t working on anything nearly as public as this. Either someone went rogue or they’re just hiring people from Fiver to do their dirty work.
It wasn’t Fiverr. They used Onerr.
Pretty sure this exact scenario has happened multiple times. A huge number of people are very tech illiterate so unfortunately I'd bet more money on incompetence than sabotage. Especially given this administration's DEI policies.
It has. It’s burned both parities over the years.
I suspect that due to the sheer volume of files, they brought in people who are unfamiliar with the redaction process, got sloppy and cut corners. Then, as there is no time for QC because the deadline, they slipped through.
I also suspect that within that group of people, there were those who knew what they were doing and knew it would slip through due to the time crunch.
And no one will know, because there is no chain of custody, or a full protocol of who changed what.
Or they complied with their orders to the letter but not in spirit which left open room for shitty redactions.
This headline was also written by someone who redacted the files apparently
Trumps Team is like those dumb villains in the movies
Marv and harry from home alone
The people who figured this out should not have told anyone yet. Let the idiots release more files with their half-assed redactions first
We knew this was going to happen before they were released. They literally did this same thing in their first administration. Same exact thing.
We all had our adobe set to “unredact” mode in anticipation.
Epstein openly calls Trump a pedo in the files we can read, how much worse is the stuff that is being hidden from us?
Yes. Much worse.
Well the infanticide document alleging the president (by name and unredacted) killed a baby is pretty bad....but I bet Trump has done far worse.
I watched a guy do this on TikTok live last night. It was amusing as hell, but the content was disgusting.
a true r/yesyesyesno moment
“Indyke, an attorney who represented Epstein for decades, has not been criminally indicted by federal authorities. He was hired by the Parlatore Law Group in 2022, before the DoJ settled the Epstein case. That firm represents Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and previously represented Donald Trump in his defense against charges stemming from the discovery of classified government documents stored at Trump’s Florida estate”
Don’t even have to “hack”. They made a mistake from the early 2000’s and used insecure redaction methods. I can only guess one of two situations happened there… they put someone incompetent on the task, which wouldn’t be surprising… as they have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to mouth breathers in their ranks… or… somebody’s a slightly tech savvy patriot who wanted the stuff to be reversible.
I predicted all of this months ago.
Someone on Reddit was lamenting that we would never see the light of day with those files and I countered “you sure are putting a lot of faith in this administrations ability to actually censor something”.
And it’s true. The way in which they redacted the files is easily undone by anyone with passable knowledge of meta data.
Their lukewarm temperature IQ gophers are obviously going to miss names and photos of Trump when they are going through them at break neck speed. Anyone in those types of work environments will tell you if you don’t complete a task on time you just go onto the next one. 😂
I've had to redact a document without access to acrobat pro or some other tool to do it a foolproof way. So I loaded it in inkscape and deleted the text before making a black box over the blank space. Finally I checked for the strings I deleted with a grep command.
It always amazes me when it turns out I'm more competent than people with thousands of times the power that I have.
Then again, Im not a fucking idiot like people in the Trump administration.
Well, you're using a command meant for searching plaintext files, not PDFs. I don't think PDFs would show up in the results one way or another
The pdf spec is sprawling, and i guess there is a chance that there are encodings for plaintext that command line tools wouldnt be able to interpret.
The ones I worked with didn't do that. I could open them in vim and read the offending text clear as day. And my grep search showed the text before the redaction and didn't after. As I said... Im not a fucking idiot! :)
Open up a random text heavy pdf in vim or some other plaintext editor, and I'll bet youll be surprised at how much you can read.
I’ve previously worked at an e-discovery company. The fact that these weren’t flattened is a stunning failure.
If you listen carefully you can hear Nelson from the Simpsons in the background
It bothers me more that the DOJ has actively broken the ability to search for Trump and his associates, redacted their names over every document released but actively left the names of the victims unredacted in a large amount of the files. I mean, we know it’s a coverup, but it’s so fucking blatant it’s disgusting.
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Trump participated sexually assaulted a 13 year old girl then helped her uncle kill her baby. Pass it on.
How do you do fellow hackers?
The hacker known as "Ctrl + C" and "Ctrl + V"
My wife pointed out something very important and it had not give full thought to.
Please if anyone is going to post unredacted information, make sure the victim’s names are still blacked out. They do not deserve to be a victim twice.
I want nothing more than to see the monsters in this file brought to justice, and I’ll admit I am torn in terms of the urge to see justice and the rights of the victims. It’s not a clear cut case.
Copy and paste an unflattened pdf is not a hack
Don't ruin the magic of "highlighting text" for everyone as well!
why would this be redacted?
"Redactions of sections 184 through 192 of the document describe property taxes paid by companies incorporated by Epstein on properties that were not on the balance sheet for those firms.
“For instance, Cypress’s Balance Sheet as of December 31, 2018 did not reflect any assets other than cash of $18,824. Further, Cypress reported only $301 in expenses for the year ended December 31, 2018, despite it paying $106,394.60 in Santa Fe property taxes on November 6, 2018,” reads one redacted passage.
“Similarly, in 2017, Cypress reported as its only asset cash in the amount of $29,736 and expenses of $150, despite it paying $55,770.41 and $113,679.56 in Santa Fe property taxes during 2017.”"
Good job Guardian, you really should have kept that shit on the DL.
The files have all been downloaded, saved, and uploaded on other searchable sites.
The moment the DOJ uploaded them they lost the ability to control it. The only negative is it means they aren't going to release anything else. Which will trigger more lawsuits and the hope that the real incriminating evidence has already been released, the DOJ just figured it was "redacted".
Look, it's all coming out regardless. It's just a matter of when.
I think they mean it would have been better if all the files were released with the error. We have interrupted the enemy while they were making a mistake, because they may fix it in the future releases.
Very clever government
I was hoping this was the case.
What’s crazy about this is there are tons of document review softwares that lawyers and paralegals use everyday that make sure this exact thing doesn’t happen. Instead of using that software which they certainly had they drew black boxes over things with whatever software and assumed it was good.
It's not even a hack, it's copy -> paste in plain format.
On initial load of the document, scrolling fast reveals text before the style is applied to black it out.
Access to these files will be shut down in 3…..2……
Everybody’s gotta open their big fucking mouth
Wish this started after more was released. They definitely won't release more because of this.
You mean the ones that were just highlighted in black, that you can just paste into another document to see them?
Hackerman
The Guardian talks like my 75 year old dad.