I havent heard anyone talk about the symbolism of vehicle choise between Carol and Manousos. Both are first responder vehicles, with very different approaches. One that aims to heal, and one that aims to justify (justice, punish, brash, 'gut instinct' led). I'm sure there's more significance I can see. What do you think?
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Shes goes from a police car to a JUST MARRIED car and Manousos rocks up in an ambulance to save humanity... yeah, I think there's a lot of symbolism to it.
Manousos originally just wanted to kill everyone, at least that's what he told Carol. She convinced him everyone could be saved
He said if they couldn’t be saved that would be better than leaving them plurb
And he made everyone of them get in the safety position before he performed the radio experiment. He is very "paramedic" the way he tries to wake that guy - as if from a coma. Meanwhile Carol used cop-style interrogation tactics on Zosia in that hospital carpark after drugging her.
My name is Manousos Oveido. I am not one of them. I wish to save the world.
Carol triggering the global seizure twice by accident, Manousos doing it on purpose to diagnose the problem
To be fair he did give some warning as Zosia said lol - but that does little for people piloting/driving or in precarious positions when they seize.
If they're at cruising altitude they can turn on autopilot and just chill...
It's not clear to me how much they're like actually using planes and stuff? Like maybe for transporting food (👀) and supplies/equipment, but it's not like there are hundreds of completely full passenger aircrafts in use at any given moment
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I imagine anyone who's currently sick or injured would have a problem with the (double!) seizure just limiting bodily function. Seizures can kill on their own.
I've heard this discussed before on some YouTube videos and they pointed towards the cop car being equated with authority or or being bossy and Carol's case and the ambulance being equated to saving or healing like Manusus says he wishes to do for the world where as Carol comes off as bossy? I think there's definitely some symbolism there and they also pointed out how when she gets dropped off by social that she is in a helicopter formally owned by the fire department and I'm not sure the symbolism there but I think these vehicles were used for a reason because Vince Gilligan always is purposeful with props and details.
Right? I took it in the ealry episodes as they killed her wife, so she's vengeance driven. She wants justice; to get Them. As the show went on it got harder to equate that theory.. but then manousos procured an ambulance, and that felt like something...
Side note, after spelling out his name a few times. The last letters being sos, aka help. I might be reaching, but it seems apt
The 'justice' and 'wanting to get Them' angle is how I think of it; alongside the much more direct symbolism of Carol being a detective, investigating how They function. Meanwhile, Manousos isn't interested in solving for Their motives and morals, he's more interested in healing the world (even if that means cleansing the infection by fire)
I didn't notice that the helicopter was fire-rescue, but that makes sense for the new allied front Carol / Manousos have established; they're in a burning fire now, at risk of suffocation (conversion). Although, I'm fairly certain the helicopter is more chosen for the red colour symbolism; red being the colour used when Carol is distancing / in-conflict with Them.
Oh wow. SOS I wasn't quite sure how to spell his name.. Although my post was a batch of misspellings but the SOS is a good point they probably spell it like that on purpose cuz I think I've seen the names similar to it spelled s o u s
respectfully,
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Yeah damn autocorrect changed it to disgust😅
thanks for having a sense of humor cuz I read my comment back & thought I’m sounding so bitchy but tbh “disgust” is extremely funny!
No worries! I saw in my notifications that someone liked my comment and I was trying to figure out what I was commenting on based on the first couple of words and I was trying to figure out what I meant by the word disgust but then I realized that the autocorrect had changed the word on me 😂 I honestly never realized that those two words sounded the same but two completely different spellings with two completely different meanings!
Happy Holidays 🎄
I never would’ve realized they sounded the same if it weren’t for your post! (which admittedly is so funny)
Happy holidays to you!!
He really did a ton of planes and trains and cars this time.
Missed opportunity for planes trains and automobiles
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Yeah damn autocorrect changed it to disgust😅
Blue and yellow
Yeah, it really highlights Carol's conservative thinking
If I where in that situation, I would totally want to drive a cop car around... Just because I wasn't able to do it before the world collapsed on itself.
Cop cars are cool.
Unless you're in the back. 🙂
I was thinking she would get a pickup truck when she was trying to haul all those bricks.. I was wondering why she didn't just go get one considering there's still probably a lot of vehicles left when you think about the fact that the hive are trying to conserve resources I don't think they would each get a car I think they would get several ppl in one vehicle
Cop motor, a 440-cubic-inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters, so it'll run good on regular gas,"