Peta has a continously cringe social media prescence but the more serious accusations are very much propoganda from big companies that want to discredit peta. Peta’s incredibly high kill rate at their shelters are because they accept any animal. So in practice all the no kill shelters in the area dump their unadoptable pets at peta.
And if that one example of a peta employee kidnapping that homeless guys dog and euthanizing it was standard procedure we probably would’ve heard about more examples than that same situation again and again for the past decade.
PETA does it self no favors with its weird social media prescence. But im personally weary of people claiming they’re evil.
PETA wants you to be uncomfortable in the hopes that the discomfort will stick with you past the silly examples they post about and dissuade you from participating in the real world examples.
Doesn’t seem to work at all, but that is what they’re aiming for.
They've said blatantly racist, homophobic etc. shit, they're pragmatic nihilists or whatever that believe the only way to make things right with nature is to end the human race, it just so happens they're rarely talking about massive corporations apart from farms, it's elitist bullshit that doesn't take into consideration any other struggle because they don't care.
While Peta are not the best, saying that they believe that "the only way to make things right with nature is to end the human race" like they are some sort of batman villain is insane.
You have 100% fallen for corporate propaganda.
It's insane that they believe that and act accordingly like a batman villain. Again, weird they mostly put blame on consumers then and only mention companies when it's the farms.
PETA, when it was first created, DID free many primates from research laboratories and porpoises from aquariums. However, that is the past, and the truth is that today, PETA advocates for no pet ownership, has euthanized animals as soon as they arrive to their shelters, and stolen beloved pets from families. PETA has fallen from grace, and now hurts animals more often then they help.
They don't advocate against let ownership. They advocate against buying animals. They are very pro-adopting-companion animals.
They run kill shelters. Sick and injured animals that won't be adopted end up being killed. Most other shelters do not take in injured and sick animals at all, so that's why they do not need to euthanize them.
Afaik there is one (1) documented case of a volunteer working for peta taking a pet from a family that was left to roam the street alone by accident to a kill shelter. The people who did that were immediately fired and they issued an apology.
They help animals immensely, arguably more than any other modern animal organisation. I have my qualms about peta because of some things they do and say, but these things are either completely blown out of proportion or straight up lies.
Fun little fact for you: the website you linked to (petakillsanimals) is run by the Center for Consumer Freedom, a lobbying group sponsored by companies such as KFC, Outback Steakhouse and several cattle farmers.
The first parragraph is literally a quote taken out of context of Ingrid Newkirk talking against commercial dog and cat breeding.
"The bottom line is that people don't have the right to manipulate or to breed dogs and cats... If people want toys, they should buy inanimate objects. If they want companionship, they should seek it with their own kind."
This is just so obviously an alarmist website, and you must be really naive to fall for it.
My guy, that's just a picture of her face with the quote next to it. That isn't context lmao.
You can't just put quotes around "out of context" and now magically that criticism doesn't aply anymore.
Do you fall for the Abraham Lincoln meme quotes too?
I’d rather look for another organisation. PETA aren’t good people. At the very least, they resort to debunked myths, bigotry, and guilt tripping to turn people vegan. All it does is make people more resistant. Sheep don’t hate being sheared! They fucking love it! Their wool doesn’t shed, so we shear them to keep them cool, mobile, and comfortable.
PETA makes TONS of regular posts. A lot more than these weird ones. But no one sees them, at all, and only these get any attention, which is why they keep doing them.
It's also easier to discredit PETA as people are already predisposed to disliking them. Having empathy for animals and yet eating meat which requires the lifelong torture of animals is self contradictory behavior, and PETA exposing that makes people have cognitive dissonance and they get defensive.
If I remember Peta apparently used to actually do good shit for animals like dismantling and ape testing facility one time but the second one of the founders left it immediately went straight downhill
PETA’s thing isn’t really even totally accurate in the “if it was honest” department. In the anime at least, Suzuka still suffers the same catastrophic leg injury as the horse did in real life. Now she doesn’t die and there’s no gore (because the anime is primarily a slice of life story) but her on screen racing career effectively ends and she’s quietly written out of the story soon afterwards. So it’s not like they’re pretending the injury never happened.
Domesticated horses have been selectively bred over millennia to look very different from the original wild animal that they were before humans got involved - they used to be way less gangly and a lot more Built Right.
Evolution is not always survival of the fittest, but selective breeding isn't the same as evolution. There are better examples out there of how evolution doesn't always result in a better creature, like the boar whose tusks grow so curved back on themselves that they end up penetrating back into its skull.
Not to give a swag but that's not really what happens in the anime, she recovers and has a good screen presence and interactions with the MC before the plot moves on and stops centering her injury and her career. But even then, when she goes to other countries to race, she is still constantly mentioned.
I do have issue with the anime/game kinda sugarcoating and kawaiifying a brutal sport and industry. I know that fiction doesnt need to be a perfect representation of reality, but I've seen people start to talk about racing horses like it's a fun trivia thing and not straight up animal abuse. The issue is that animal abuse is completely normalized, so representing it in fiction should be done with caution. But Uma musume doesn't do that.
Thing is I don't even know what's their idea of animal welfare anymore, their animal "shelters" are putting down so many animals that they are closer to a slaughter house than a shelter.
It's because they don't run "no-kill shelters". No-kill shelters don't kill animals because they don't take in that many animals. Peta's model is to take in all stray animals that need a home and try to rehabilitate them/get them adopted asap. Unlike most other shelters, they do take in sick and injured animals, which won't get adopted and probably can't be saved.
Because people don't stop abandoning them and being irresponsible about them (peta is very vocal about adopting instead of buying for this very reason too), there's always too many of them. They euthanize the sick, dying animals in the shelter instead of letting them starve and suffer to death on the streets, because these animals don't have another choice.
They basically do the dirty work of giving deadly sick animals euthanisia when most other shelters refuse to do that because it makes them look bad.
I have my qualms with peta, but this complaint is absurd once you look at what they're actually doing at their shelters instead of imagining they willingly kill healthy animals for the sake of it.
i mean id be pretty shocked too to see a drawing of silence suzuka breaking her leg open just for the sake of peta pushing whatever stupid rhetoric they have
especially considering some of the "satire" shit i saw on TV that still hasnt left my mind after almost 14+ years
Not to give a swag but I lowkey agree with the reply fuck peta I hate the shock value publicity stunts being like "animal cruelty is bad!!!" while killing like 70% of the animals they "save"
I'm not on board with how PETA operates in a lot of ways (full warning, I'm a vegan), But the reason their shelters have such a high rate of putting animals down is because PETA never turns away an animal it can house, while your conventional animal shelters will often turn away the majority of animals that are presented to them because they don't believe that they'll be able to get them adopted/sold
Necessarily, when you take in a large number of unwanted pets and animals and have limited space, you have to make a very difficult decision about what to do. It's a position I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, frankly.
Multiple times! Not just pets but service animals too.
They don't actually believe in the ethical treatment of animals, they're just vehemently opposed to domestication and any other way humans interact with animals.
Second point is also just straight up not true. Peta is fine with household pets, but believe in treating them with the dignity and respect they deserve.
Two employees took a pet (singular!) that was roaming around with stray dogs, which they confused for another dog they had been called there to deal with. The two employees responsible were then also immediately fired for it. To my knowledge, literally nothing like it has happened afterwards.
As I said, I'm not on board with how PETA operates in a lot of ways (that being one of the notable issues I have with them), but the fact that their shelters have a disproportionate amount of animals they put down is not one of the things I hold against them
Correction: two employees working under PETA took a dog that was left alone, confusing it with another dog they had been called to retrieve, and then euthanized it. Both employees were then immediately fired for it.
Isn't PETA literally a cult? Or high control group, if you prefer. They do all that animal killing because they think death is better for animals than living as a pet, iirc.
For me my first look into how PETA operates was from Penn and Teller's bullshit. A show where penn and teller look into stuff they consider bullshit. That said it's a pretty common statistic that they euthanize animals at a significant higher rate than almost anyone else. Both PETA and NACC have open admission and accept any animal so their excuse of their open admission policy can't be right.
This is from a random article I found but if you search around pretty much any article has similar information from all over the US you can also look at the reports from the statistic website these article references because it is a very common issue with them. So common that PETA have a section on their website trying to justify the euthanization and why it's actually not a lot. (tw: gore on the peta site)
they definitely seem to believe that at least. there was at least one report a while ago where people aligned with peta broke into someones house and stole their dog, then euthanised it
The only reason they do so many euthanizations is because their homes aren't allowed to turn away pets, unlike most other shelters. The alternative, quite literally, is those animals being thrown in a ditch somewhere.
I honestly don’t even know what PETA is trying to say here? The way that they frame it, “one failed event” is as if Silence Suzuka was shot in the back of the head for placing poorly in a race, but she was tragically euthanised because her injury was far beyond what a horse could ever heal.
Horse racing is an ethical rabbit hole, don’t get me wrong, but framing what happened to Silence Suzuka as an unjust punishment is just deeply dishonest; The horse would’ve suffered horribly if he wasn’t put down when he was.
I bet they don't even care about who Silence is. They just heard the tales of horses getting killed if they break a leg, and decided "This must've happened to her". You gotta learn nuance, you gotta know the context, or else you look stupid.
Yeah he was severely injured and had to be euthanised because it would have been cruel to keep him alive, euthanising injured horses is like the least bad part of horse racing, it's the humane thing to do
As I said, Horse Racing is in itself a moral and ethical rabbit hole all on its own, lots of it bad. What I was taking issue with was PETA’s framing of things, making the implication that Silence Suzuka was euthanised as a punishment for poor performance.
I'm not on board with how PETA operates in a lot of ways (full warning, I'm a vegan), But the reason their shelters have such a high rate of putting animals down is because PETA never turns away an animal it can house, while your conventional animal shelters will often turn away the majority of animals that are presented to them because they don't believe that they'll be able to get them adopted/sold
Necessarily, when you take in a large number of unwanted pets and animals and have limited space, you have to make a very difficult decision about what to do. It's a position I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, frankly.
The organisation has lots of reasons to not like them, and people always seem to find the most inane, banal and misinformed reasons to hate them I find.
Honestly, I just don’t like them cause the games and junk they make are SUPER gory, like I get it’s meant to shock people into seeing the issues with how animals are treated and all that jazz but it just makes me feel icky seeing it
Thats kinda the point, the idea is it's forcing you to confront the reality of how a lot of these animals are treated by closed doors (They just tend to go about a very sanctimonious way of doing it)
Yeah I know, I get feeling icky and sad is the whole point but like, I don’t like feeling icky and sad, I already do that enough on my own, I do NOT need others trying to make me feel that way, it’s a big reason I kinda try and avoid looking at anything PETA related, this post was just randomly on my homepage
Literally any vegan who tells you not to worry about Peta only says so because it's one of the few orgs who isn't against them as a community politically or economically lmao. 2 of my sisters are vegan and despise Peta.
Oh okay..? It’s like… 3 am for me, I dunno who to trust… I also sorta trust anyone who’s talking anyways, which I do admit is a bad habit cause it’s caused some pain ebfore lol
Except isn't taking in a large number of animals like that and then euthanizing them for more room worse than euthanizing a horse with a broken leg?
I understand they don't have unlimited resources but it does feel a bit odd for peta to specifically talk about euthanizing horses with severe injuries instead of how often horses get these injuries in horse racing.
Horse racing is 100% animal exploitation.
Fuck peta and all, and asking the multibillion dollar corporation to destroy the bad artwork is swaggy as hell, but it's still exploitation
The horses want to race. Most of them enjoy it. They find it fun, and if the people are having fun all the better. They might not know exactly what’s going on or why people are so excited, but they can feel it and it gets them up too. They aren’t dumb beasts being led around and told what to do. And a good breeder/owner generally won’t put out a horse that doesn’t want to run, because an unwilling horse generally isn’t going to be motivated to win. For example, take Goldship. Bro was upset when he retired, his handlers sad that for a few months he was rather Mopey.
Not severe injuries, no. They're built different to dogs + cats; they can't really make it as a tripod. Horses are built, for lack of a better word, stupidly; they're very easy to break. Can't vomit, either, which is why they can die of tummy hurty.
I think they're probably just neurodivergent and get overly attached to characters. I know that I've had a similar reaction once before when I was younger.
people who are neurodivergent fully unmask and people make fun of them and repost their things nonstop and call them obxonous and annoying or corny or cringe or-
and then when something actually horrible happens to them some youtuber is gonna post a video essay about how the internet treated said person very bad and they deserved better
PETA is in the United States, not Japan. There’s nothing they can do about gore and porn here, it’s legally protected under Fair Use as parody. Have you ever considered how Family Guy, Robot Chicken, and South Park function? Did they pay for the rights to everything ever made? Nope. You’re just allowed to do that without paying. Even Disney can’t do anything and they’ll sue over a child’s gravestone. That’s why Avengers XXX, Captain Marvel XXX, Avengers 2 XXX, Black Widow XXX, and a hell of a lot more exist.
Heck, PETA has repeatedly done this to Nintendo and all Nintendo could do was sit there and be angry. Parody law is so clear cut and unable to be fought here that Nintendo and Disney don’t even bother.
The guy who owned Seiun Sky and Nishino Flower got sent gore of his horses’ Uma versions and was considering not letting Cygames use them anymore, which also led to a load of other owners of horses that were in the game at the time reconsidering their involvement as well and almost ending the whole thing.
That’s why the secondary work guidelines exist. They’re not arbitrary, but a way for Cygames to not risk having to kill off arguably their most important project again.
im not exactly sure what the original PETA image was supposed to be a commentary on. "What if they killed the horse girls in umamusume? would that be fucked up or what?" Like i guess if the euthanization was unnecessary it would hold water, but horses literally just die slowly if they can't walk, and leg injuries rarely heal. Is it a criticism of Umamusume, even though the whole thing is that no actual horses are being raced in that game? it seems like it was mostly an excuse to post guro fetish art on main
You're missing the point. The injury only happened in the first place because these horses are being forced to race for the entertainment of humans. It's very similar to something like cock fighting.
Umamusume directly glorifies horse racing a lot, even though the industry is very morally corrupt in like, a dozen different ways. These aspects are entirely glossed over to create a saccharine sports shonen vibe.
I don't really think Umamusume is the height of villainy or anything, but it's a valid criticism.
They don't need fetish; they've already got a thing for making stuff look unnecessarily violent
No Peta, I do not want to play a happy looking childrens game that ends in the main characters being brutally murdered and served as fucking chicken nuggets or something. It's too much shock value and it makes me, as well as unfortunate unsuspecting children, want to disagree with you more
Yea no sorry if this was something they were putting on people's timelines uncensored I do not blame them even if its drawn thats still really gross/petas been known for horrible shock value stuff in the past
The people who own the racehorses featured in the game irl are ofc quite rich considering how famous these horses are. As such, they have quite a lot of “power” lol
ppl, as they do, started drawing porn of the characters, and then suddenly Japanese players were urged NOT to draw NSFW of them due to the interests of those who actually own the horses. Then some silly (NO DRAMA) Twitter stuff happened where an artist had to apologize and take down their work and people were joking that they “got a call”
Don't remember where, but i remember hearing that horses are euthanized after broken legs because is basically impossible for them to recover from it like a person and can't make do with 3 like a dog or so
Knowing Umamusume and horse mafia going on around the game, they could probably do that, if they really want to. Even pornography with Umas was risky to make at some point.
That doesn't mean I support actually killing horses just because they can no longer race. They gotta retire and live the rest of their life at peace and comfort eating hay and grass. If an athlete can retire, so can horses.
A lot of the time when a horse gets a major leg injury it's completely impossible for said injury to heal. Also, there are a lot of examples of horses retiring after getting more minor injuries (an umamusume example would be Agnes Tachyon, who retired to be a stud horse after a tendon injury), or sometimes even continuing their racing careers if they are able to recover from it (such as Tokai Teio, who kept racing even after recovering from a leg fracture, several times, and still made it to retirement).
Euthanasia is only done when the horse can't recover. Horse racing definitely has its problems (racing horses too young, exposing horses to excess amounts of physical stress/strain, racing them even when they're not physically fit, etc), but euthanizing unnecessarily is not the biggest one
Also the mafia thing is a misconception, the real reason the company is so strict is to avoid upsetting the owners of the real horses, which has almost caused the entire thing to be cancelled several times (from the owners threatening to withdraw permission to use their horses)
I don't know much about this game, why did the characters have to be based on real horses in the first place? They could've just made original characters with no affiliation, right?
l honestly can't really say much about it, because so much of the game, especially character design, story, and world building, is dependent on the fact that the horsegirls are based on real racehorses (and that the world is the exact same as our world except all horses are instead horsegirls). If they were original characters, the whole feel of the game would be almost entirely different. Sorry if this is a little too vague
not to go against the peta hate train but i actually don’t see a problem with this post. it’s shocking yes but they do make a point of how inhumane horse racing is and how stuff like umamusume whitewashes it’s image.
like even if you REALLY hate peta (which wouldn’t be invalid, i hate them for the "got autism?" campaign for one) you have to still figure that a broken clock can be right twice a day right?
I think the problem is that they tried to reach out to a community by disparaging the game they like and flashbanging them with an image of their comfort character dragging their mutilated leg across the ground. It didn't provoke people into considering the nuance of how Uma has whitewashed Silence's story from a victim run to death by a sport that deprioritized his wellbeing at every turn to a willing competitor that suffered a (nonfatal) freak accident, it made everyone go "eww what the fuck is wrong with PETA?"
The intent is good, the idea is good, the execution was too heavy-handed and fumbled because of it.
The amount of disinformation the farming and meat lobbies have pushed about PETA is genuinely insane. People in this very comment section are just parroting the same bullshit talking points uncritically that have been debunked and/or explained for YEARS, but it doesn't matter, because the stuff PETA posts genuinely makes them feel bad about themselves (maybe because, y'know, we shouldn't be torturing and killing animals for our own pleasure and people KNOW that)
Eh... I'm more with the perspective of "they have an addiction towards doing the dumbest move possible".
They complain about IP's like Pokémon, even, and Umamesume is rated TV14, I think, so this is at least the second time they've acted for shock value and depicted children's media characters in pain, or dying.
And that's fucking weird. Yeah, I get they're drawing comparisons to real-life animal abuse. And I largely agree, horseracing is fucking brutal and encourages abuse.
But the angle they're choosing is, again, fucking weird. The setting uses the names of real horses, but other than that, it's entirely separated.
And this is the same group who actually tried to lessen milk consumption with the slogan "Got Autism?", so they're already a hard sell in my case.
I think this kind of post is meant to be focused on by younger people, PETA has tons of different kinds of "marketing" tactics, I don't believe this one is particularly effective but I also don't know anything about what it's referencing besides the general "horse racing" angle.
I get PETA ads all the time and most (99%) of them I've seen have focused on laboratory experiments using animals or factory farming expose type content, this post of theirs didn't even show in my feed despite the fact that I follow them.
The outrage is clearly the point, to some extent, but I don't really have a problem with that when the issues they're talking about ARE things to genuinely be outraged about.
The Got Autism? Shit was such a horrendous move on their part. They have definitely made mistakes and they have more recent mistakes I could go on about, but they're also one of the largest outreach groups for vegan ideals and they've done much more good than harm, unless you think making people outraged on the Internet is "harm"
My only real issue is that by clinging to outrage by targeting children's media, it actually hurts them. Overall, PETA is seen as an absolute joke. They can't take PR hits like they think they can.
Lobbyist money is working against their every move and they need every bit of goodwill they can get. Painting poor-taste pictures of children's media is not how that's done, even if I understand the reasoning.
I mean I hate umamusume too but that's because I fucking hate gacha games and think it's a psyop to normalize gambling (both the genre and game itself)
Buddy I hate to tell you this but with the way sports betting has been legalized recently there is literally zero need for a psyop. There’s actually negative need because it would be counterproductive to train people to like fake gambling (gacha games) when they can go out and like real gambling (gambling)
I hear you but 1. They are both gambling, meaning investors /stockholders get money either way, and 2. Uma and other gacha games were legal before the recent sports betting changes, and 3. Gatchas reinforce the gambler's fallacy with guaranteed pulls. I think that gatchas have had at least some part in the recent changes.
Maybe not psyop to normalise gambling per se, but it definitely is a marketing tactic that basically "really works" for them. It just became more mainstream because everyone wants a slice of the "whale" pie.
Although not to say every gacha is pure evil, some actually do the format relatively well without trying to aggressively extort money out of you or put you in f2p grind hell.
Serious question: what… is shown in the original picture? Is it gore? I don’t want to see it, I just want to know what was so terrible under that yellow scribble.
My personal tangent::
During Katrina Red Rover gathered allot of resources and went down to help people and animals that were stuck.
A lot of animals get abandoned durring evacuation. But its not always a 'fuck the dog thell figure it out' it having to make a hard choice.
Trust theres also allot of assholes ( I learned durring thst trip that quite a few organizations buy farm animals and their corpses to dissuade farmers from selling tainted meat to already struggling communities. Ordesperate locals taking an abandoned pig to eat up. Like homie, the shit pond over flowed and Porky has been treading that water for days. I know you're hungry but-!)
What does this have to do with Peta?
Folks pulled guns on us regularly. It wasnt uncommon for them to suspect us of being Peta trying to steal their animals.
So are we not going to talk about the fact horses are so specialized for standing and running all day that a broken leg is basically guaranteed death (no, horses can’t function on only three legs)? It’s not impossible to repair, but the process is gonna be so traumatic for the horse that they’ll probably die from the stress anyway. Keeping them alive in this case will just prolong their suffering
I dont think peta understands that leg injuries are death sentences for horses, and that euthanizing them spares them a lot of pain. Then again it is peta, so
I think the intention was to note that the horses are only getting injured because they're bred for speed over health and then pushed to their physical limits in races, which makes horse racing inherently cruel.
It just kind of got lost in the "hey we drew your comfort character bawling in pain dragging her mutilated leg across the ground" grossness.
Very legit swag imo, I got pretty pissed and somewhat shocked at peta, like wtf are they thinking drawing a loved character with an open bleeding wound 🥀💔
does PETA know making horses live with amputated legs is painful and inhumane for them? that unless a broken leg heals perfectly, it will always cause them pain and discomfort? PETA also kills animals anyways. lmao
They're against the exploitation of animals via horse riding PERIOD. They aren't making the point that it's inhumane to keep a horse with a debilitating injury alive, they're pointing out that the injury only happened because of exploitation in the first place.
PETA kills a majority of the animals that come into their care lol. this is fake outrage. i’m not arguing the ethics of horse racing with PETA defenders
PETA kills the majority of animals that come into their care because they don't reject ANY animal... This means that animals every other shelter rejects (because they're too aggressive, too old, too injured, whatever) end up in PETAs care. Unless you think they're in possession of some technology to make their buildings have infinite space inside them, I'm curious as to what YOUR solution is to this problem.
Animals being euthanized is a huge part of ANY animal rescue organization, unfortunately. It's just that PETA also argues for vegan ethics, which huge farming and meat lobbying groups hate, so they spend tons of time and money pushing anti peta propaganda. There ARE legitimate grievances you can have with the organization (the silence on animal rights abuses in the Gaza genocide come to mind) but none of that is relevant to you , because it's much easier to come up with some bullshit excuse to discredit them.
Honestly eating meat and getting upset that PETA kills animals is maybe the most hilarious form of mental deficiency. Where do you think the meat you eat comes from?
Honestly as someone who does not like umamasume or gacha anime games in general, if they fucking executed injured girls at the end of the race i might get into it just for that. Like I'm imagining the awards ceremony and everybody is cheering and clapping and then the screen fades to black and you just hear a gunshot. You never see that horse girl again and no one ever talks about it, the game just pretends that girl never existed. I think that would be really funny, I'd play until everyone is dead
https://preview.redd.it/67264mbj6i6g1.jpeg?width=385&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d74a2fdf9224bc14e92f23aded4472395f499d8
I'm still convinced peta was made by big companies to make animal rights activists look bad
I'm absolutely convinced of this by now
Peta has a continously cringe social media prescence but the more serious accusations are very much propoganda from big companies that want to discredit peta. Peta’s incredibly high kill rate at their shelters are because they accept any animal. So in practice all the no kill shelters in the area dump their unadoptable pets at peta.
And if that one example of a peta employee kidnapping that homeless guys dog and euthanizing it was standard procedure we probably would’ve heard about more examples than that same situation again and again for the past decade.
PETA does it self no favors with its weird social media prescence. But im personally weary of people claiming they’re evil.
PETA wants you to be uncomfortable in the hopes that the discomfort will stick with you past the silly examples they post about and dissuade you from participating in the real world examples.
Doesn’t seem to work at all, but that is what they’re aiming for.
They've said blatantly racist, homophobic etc. shit, they're pragmatic nihilists or whatever that believe the only way to make things right with nature is to end the human race, it just so happens they're rarely talking about massive corporations apart from farms, it's elitist bullshit that doesn't take into consideration any other struggle because they don't care.
While Peta are not the best, saying that they believe that "the only way to make things right with nature is to end the human race" like they are some sort of batman villain is insane. You have 100% fallen for corporate propaganda.
It's insane that they believe that and act accordingly like a batman villain. Again, weird they mostly put blame on consumers then and only mention companies when it's the farms.
they literally don’t but okay
They've also went onto people's private properties, stolen their animals and killed them in the dame day
They are cringe, but if you actually look at what they do, they have done a LOT for animals, probably more than any other modern animal organisation.
PETA, when it was first created, DID free many primates from research laboratories and porpoises from aquariums. However, that is the past, and the truth is that today, PETA advocates for no pet ownership, has euthanized animals as soon as they arrive to their shelters, and stolen beloved pets from families. PETA has fallen from grace, and now hurts animals more often then they help.
They don't advocate against let ownership. They advocate against buying animals. They are very pro-adopting-companion animals.
They run kill shelters. Sick and injured animals that won't be adopted end up being killed. Most other shelters do not take in injured and sick animals at all, so that's why they do not need to euthanize them.
Afaik there is one (1) documented case of a volunteer working for peta taking a pet from a family that was left to roam the street alone by accident to a kill shelter. The people who did that were immediately fired and they issued an apology.
They help animals immensely, arguably more than any other modern animal organisation. I have my qualms about peta because of some things they do and say, but these things are either completely blown out of proportion or straight up lies.
this is untrue. i am sure you are not being malicious, but please fight against the spread of misinformation.
https://petakillsanimals.com
Fun little fact for you: the website you linked to (petakillsanimals) is run by the Center for Consumer Freedom, a lobbying group sponsored by companies such as KFC, Outback Steakhouse and several cattle farmers.
Congratulations! You fell for the propaganda.
The first parragraph is literally a quote taken out of context of Ingrid Newkirk talking against commercial dog and cat breeding.
"The bottom line is that people don't have the right to manipulate or to breed dogs and cats... If people want toys, they should buy inanimate objects. If they want companionship, they should seek it with their own kind."
This is just so obviously an alarmist website, and you must be really naive to fall for it.
yes, sure. here is another newkirk quote taken "out of context": "Pet ownership is slavery."
https://www.azquotes.com/author/10765-Ingrid_Newkirk
My guy, that's just a picture of her face with the quote next to it. That isn't context lmao.
You can't just put quotes around "out of context" and now magically that criticism doesn't aply anymore.
Do you fall for the Abraham Lincoln meme quotes too?
This video sums up my thoughts on that website: https://youtu.be/w6haa9HMH3E?si=CarHvkgcjk_N817P
Again I think Peta is sketchy in many ways. But this ain't it.
*advocates for preventing the overall overpopulation in pets since there arent enough homes
*has euthanized sick or old animals that get dropped at their doorstep because no one wanted them
*two employees got the wrong dog after they were called to retrieve another dog and were immediately fired for it
No, they’ve actively compared owning pets to slavery
This threath is like a group of suburban moms talking about all the crimes the local biker gang commited, based entirely on what other mom told them.
Fucking real lmao. Then the guy proceeds to call me naive for "believing everything I read" like he didn't just conjure up an unsourced opinion lmao.
Literally the first line of the post "Animal Rights Uncompromised: Pets" on Peta's official website.
Like holy shit why are everyone so confident in assuming that Peta is literally the devil
PETA in the beginning was like that, yes. But as of recent years, they've actually been the direct CAUSE for the deaths of numerous animals. here
I’d rather look for another organisation. PETA aren’t good people. At the very least, they resort to debunked myths, bigotry, and guilt tripping to turn people vegan. All it does is make people more resistant. Sheep don’t hate being sheared! They fucking love it! Their wool doesn’t shed, so we shear them to keep them cool, mobile, and comfortable.
PETA makes TONS of regular posts. A lot more than these weird ones. But no one sees them, at all, and only these get any attention, which is why they keep doing them.
It's also easier to discredit PETA as people are already predisposed to disliking them. Having empathy for animals and yet eating meat which requires the lifelong torture of animals is self contradictory behavior, and PETA exposing that makes people have cognitive dissonance and they get defensive.
I don’t know if it was made by them, but it has to be funded by them.
If I remember Peta apparently used to actually do good shit for animals like dismantling and ape testing facility one time but the second one of the founders left it immediately went straight downhill
both people, PETA and the person replying, are this for me
PETA’s thing isn’t really even totally accurate in the “if it was honest” department. In the anime at least, Suzuka still suffers the same catastrophic leg injury as the horse did in real life. Now she doesn’t die and there’s no gore (because the anime is primarily a slice of life story) but her on screen racing career effectively ends and she’s quietly written out of the story soon afterwards. So it’s not like they’re pretending the injury never happened.
And, well, they're humanoid. Horses are just Built Wrong, and can't recover from a lot of a shit.
Horse anatomy is a pretty good case against evolution being survival of the fittest.
Domesticated horses have been selectively bred over millennia to look very different from the original wild animal that they were before humans got involved - they used to be way less gangly and a lot more Built Right.
Evolution is not always survival of the fittest, but selective breeding isn't the same as evolution. There are better examples out there of how evolution doesn't always result in a better creature, like the boar whose tusks grow so curved back on themselves that they end up penetrating back into its skull.
sigh No, it is not. It just shows that evolving exclusively to "go fast" is a valid way to survive.
No they aren't, because evolution didn't do this to them.
We did.
Do you think a zebra could survive a catastrophic leg injury??
In nature everything that receives a leg injury is eaten to death
Not to give a swag but that's not really what happens in the anime, she recovers and has a good screen presence and interactions with the MC before the plot moves on and stops centering her injury and her career. But even then, when she goes to other countries to race, she is still constantly mentioned.
I do have issue with the anime/game kinda sugarcoating and kawaiifying a brutal sport and industry. I know that fiction doesnt need to be a perfect representation of reality, but I've seen people start to talk about racing horses like it's a fun trivia thing and not straight up animal abuse. The issue is that animal abuse is completely normalized, so representing it in fiction should be done with caution. But Uma musume doesn't do that.
Nah, fuck PETA
When someone has the exact same opinion as you but they're green
Thing is I don't even know what's their idea of animal welfare anymore, their animal "shelters" are putting down so many animals that they are closer to a slaughter house than a shelter.
It's because they don't run "no-kill shelters". No-kill shelters don't kill animals because they don't take in that many animals. Peta's model is to take in all stray animals that need a home and try to rehabilitate them/get them adopted asap. Unlike most other shelters, they do take in sick and injured animals, which won't get adopted and probably can't be saved.
Because people don't stop abandoning them and being irresponsible about them (peta is very vocal about adopting instead of buying for this very reason too), there's always too many of them. They euthanize the sick, dying animals in the shelter instead of letting them starve and suffer to death on the streets, because these animals don't have another choice.
They basically do the dirty work of giving deadly sick animals euthanisia when most other shelters refuse to do that because it makes them look bad.
I have my qualms with peta, but this complaint is absurd once you look at what they're actually doing at their shelters instead of imagining they willingly kill healthy animals for the sake of it.
i mean id be pretty shocked too to see a drawing of silence suzuka breaking her leg open just for the sake of peta pushing whatever stupid rhetoric they have
especially considering some of the "satire" shit i saw on TV that still hasnt left my mind after almost 14+ years
Not to give a swag but I lowkey agree with the reply fuck peta I hate the shock value publicity stunts being like "animal cruelty is bad!!!" while killing like 70% of the animals they "save"
Closer to 80% if I recall correctly.
As Scott The Woz has said, “PETA love animals so much they’d kill one to prove how serious they are”
I'm not on board with how PETA operates in a lot of ways (full warning, I'm a vegan), But the reason their shelters have such a high rate of putting animals down is because PETA never turns away an animal it can house, while your conventional animal shelters will often turn away the majority of animals that are presented to them because they don't believe that they'll be able to get them adopted/sold
Necessarily, when you take in a large number of unwanted pets and animals and have limited space, you have to make a very difficult decision about what to do. It's a position I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, frankly.
They have also literally stolen a wanted, loved, and cared for dog out of a yard, and killed that one, so no. Fuck them.
Multiple times! Not just pets but service animals too.
They don't actually believe in the ethical treatment of animals, they're just vehemently opposed to domestication and any other way humans interact with animals.
You got a source for the multiple times claim?
Second point is also just straight up not true. Peta is fine with household pets, but believe in treating them with the dignity and respect they deserve.
They have stolen and killed people's pets!
Two employees took a pet (singular!) that was roaming around with stray dogs, which they confused for another dog they had been called there to deal with. The two employees responsible were then also immediately fired for it. To my knowledge, literally nothing like it has happened afterwards.
As I said, I'm not on board with how PETA operates in a lot of ways (that being one of the notable issues I have with them), but the fact that their shelters have a disproportionate amount of animals they put down is not one of the things I hold against them
I do get what you mean about the numbers. High-kill usually does just mean you take everyone.
The NACC, which is also open acceptance, only kills ~20% of animals they pick up. PETA kills close to 80%
Correction: two employees working under PETA took a dog that was left alone, confusing it with another dog they had been called to retrieve, and then euthanized it. Both employees were then immediately fired for it.
Isn't PETA literally a cult? Or high control group, if you prefer. They do all that animal killing because they think death is better for animals than living as a pet, iirc.
where did you get this info from
For me my first look into how PETA operates was from Penn and Teller's bullshit. A show where penn and teller look into stuff they consider bullshit. That said it's a pretty common statistic that they euthanize animals at a significant higher rate than almost anyone else. Both PETA and NACC have open admission and accept any animal so their excuse of their open admission policy can't be right.
https://preview.redd.it/kf58pdy0ri6g1.jpeg?width=629&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e89de2c5267a6c06c25c41c75789aa486edd8cec
https://blogs.duanemorris.com/animallawdevelopments/2025/02/04/petas-animal-shelter-still-shows-grim-euthanasia-results/
This is from a random article I found but if you search around pretty much any article has similar information from all over the US you can also look at the reports from the statistic website these article references because it is a very common issue with them. So common that PETA have a section on their website trying to justify the euthanization and why it's actually not a lot. (tw: gore on the peta site)
That would explain why they killed that one dog they kidnapped from a child.
they definitely seem to believe that at least. there was at least one report a while ago where people aligned with peta broke into someones house and stole their dog, then euthanised it
I am kind of out of touch wth the topic, how does peta kill animals?
Their shelters have a very high euthanization rate, with some animals spending less than a day in their shelters before being killed. Theres also been at least 1 report of PETA taking a pet from a families yard and euthanizing it.Some reports say at their worse, they killed over 99% of animals theyve taken in
The only reason they do so many euthanizations is because their homes aren't allowed to turn away pets, unlike most other shelters. The alternative, quite literally, is those animals being thrown in a ditch somewhere.
I honestly don’t even know what PETA is trying to say here? The way that they frame it, “one failed event” is as if Silence Suzuka was shot in the back of the head for placing poorly in a race, but she was tragically euthanised because her injury was far beyond what a horse could ever heal.
Horse racing is an ethical rabbit hole, don’t get me wrong, but framing what happened to Silence Suzuka as an unjust punishment is just deeply dishonest; The horse would’ve suffered horribly if he wasn’t put down when he was.
I bet they don't even care about who Silence is. They just heard the tales of horses getting killed if they break a leg, and decided "This must've happened to her". You gotta learn nuance, you gotta know the context, or else you look stupid.
Yeah he was severely injured and had to be euthanised because it would have been cruel to keep him alive, euthanising injured horses is like the least bad part of horse racing, it's the humane thing to do
too bad the horse racing is what causes the injuries
Yeah a lot of horses were also euthanized for non racing issues though
Taking an example, vodka, which was euthanized for kicking a hard ass wall
As I said, Horse Racing is in itself a moral and ethical rabbit hole all on its own, lots of it bad. What I was taking issue with was PETA’s framing of things, making the implication that Silence Suzuka was euthanised as a punishment for poor performance.
downvoted for pointing out a very obvious fact
Y’know what’s even crazier about this? The fact that PETA like, puts down 60% of the animals they take in anyways?
I'm not on board with how PETA operates in a lot of ways (full warning, I'm a vegan), But the reason their shelters have such a high rate of putting animals down is because PETA never turns away an animal it can house, while your conventional animal shelters will often turn away the majority of animals that are presented to them because they don't believe that they'll be able to get them adopted/sold
Necessarily, when you take in a large number of unwanted pets and animals and have limited space, you have to make a very difficult decision about what to do. It's a position I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, frankly.
Oh, okay like, genuinely didn’t know that? Like, really makes my whole argument kinda null and void then huh? Thanks for letting me know!
The organisation has lots of reasons to not like them, and people always seem to find the most inane, banal and misinformed reasons to hate them I find.
/rant
Honestly, I just don’t like them cause the games and junk they make are SUPER gory, like I get it’s meant to shock people into seeing the issues with how animals are treated and all that jazz but it just makes me feel icky seeing it
Thats kinda the point, the idea is it's forcing you to confront the reality of how a lot of these animals are treated by closed doors (They just tend to go about a very sanctimonious way of doing it)
Yeah I know, I get feeling icky and sad is the whole point but like, I don’t like feeling icky and sad, I already do that enough on my own, I do NOT need others trying to make me feel that way, it’s a big reason I kinda try and avoid looking at anything PETA related, this post was just randomly on my homepage
I get that
It isn't null and void; studies show compared to other open admission shelters, Peta is still killing animals at a disproportionately high rate. They also steal peoples' pets to euthanize.
Literally any vegan who tells you not to worry about Peta only says so because it's one of the few orgs who isn't against them as a community politically or economically lmao. 2 of my sisters are vegan and despise Peta.
Oh okay..? It’s like… 3 am for me, I dunno who to trust… I also sorta trust anyone who’s talking anyways, which I do admit is a bad habit cause it’s caused some pain ebfore lol
Except isn't taking in a large number of animals like that and then euthanizing them for more room worse than euthanizing a horse with a broken leg?
I understand they don't have unlimited resources but it does feel a bit odd for peta to specifically talk about euthanizing horses with severe injuries instead of how often horses get these injuries in horse racing.
Horse racing is 100% animal exploitation. Fuck peta and all, and asking the multibillion dollar corporation to destroy the bad artwork is swaggy as hell, but it's still exploitation
i agree, horse racing is terrible for horses. as a horse back rider, when you are in an equestrian sport, the horse should always come before you.
The horses want to race. Most of them enjoy it. They find it fun, and if the people are having fun all the better. They might not know exactly what’s going on or why people are so excited, but they can feel it and it gets them up too. They aren’t dumb beasts being led around and told what to do. And a good breeder/owner generally won’t put out a horse that doesn’t want to run, because an unwilling horse generally isn’t going to be motivated to win. For example, take Goldship. Bro was upset when he retired, his handlers sad that for a few months he was rather Mopey.
It's not the running that's the problem, usually. It's what happens AFTER a Horse retires.
Yeah, what about it?
Edit: downvoting me because you cant prove your point is just sad
I don’t think a horse leg injury can heal.
I didn't say it could?
Not severe injuries, no. They're built different to dogs + cats; they can't really make it as a tripod. Horses are built, for lack of a better word, stupidly; they're very easy to break. Can't vomit, either, which is why they can die of tummy hurty.
I think they're probably just neurodivergent and get overly attached to characters. I know that I've had a similar reaction once before when I was younger.
that's most of this subreddit, posting neurodivergent people that do not mask very well
That what most of these types of subs are
sadly thats how most of the internet is nowdays
people who are neurodivergent fully unmask and people make fun of them and repost their things nonstop and call them obxonous and annoying or corny or cringe or-
and then when something actually horrible happens to them some youtuber is gonna post a video essay about how the internet treated said person very bad and they deserved better
The internet has always done that.
People in general have always done that.
I remember as a kid seeing a tails doll animation where he kills sonic and getting legitimately depressed for like 3 days 😭
that's so real i cared about sonic creepypasta way too much
Me with undisclosed anime character 😞 couldnt believe people hated my goat
True. I act like this and I'm neurodivergent
cygames has guidelines for their characters: do not make any gore of the umamusume. PETA violated the guidelines
PETA is in the United States, not Japan. There’s nothing they can do about gore and porn here, it’s legally protected under Fair Use as parody. Have you ever considered how Family Guy, Robot Chicken, and South Park function? Did they pay for the rights to everything ever made? Nope. You’re just allowed to do that without paying. Even Disney can’t do anything and they’ll sue over a child’s gravestone. That’s why Avengers XXX, Captain Marvel XXX, Avengers 2 XXX, Black Widow XXX, and a hell of a lot more exist.
Heck, PETA has repeatedly done this to Nintendo and all Nintendo could do was sit there and be angry. Parody law is so clear cut and unable to be fought here that Nintendo and Disney don’t even bother.
oh no the guidelines
The guy who owned Seiun Sky and Nishino Flower got sent gore of his horses’ Uma versions and was considering not letting Cygames use them anymore, which also led to a load of other owners of horses that were in the game at the time reconsidering their involvement as well and almost ending the whole thing.
That’s why the secondary work guidelines exist. They’re not arbitrary, but a way for Cygames to not risk having to kill off arguably their most important project again.
there's nothing to do legally and peta doesn't care about a sternly worded letter
If I'm being honest, when I saw the post, I thought PETA was the swag giver
I fear they’ve just seen gore of their comfort character and I don’t blame them for swagging a bit
im not exactly sure what the original PETA image was supposed to be a commentary on. "What if they killed the horse girls in umamusume? would that be fucked up or what?" Like i guess if the euthanization was unnecessary it would hold water, but horses literally just die slowly if they can't walk, and leg injuries rarely heal. Is it a criticism of Umamusume, even though the whole thing is that no actual horses are being raced in that game? it seems like it was mostly an excuse to post guro fetish art on main
You're missing the point. The injury only happened in the first place because these horses are being forced to race for the entertainment of humans. It's very similar to something like cock fighting.
Umamusume directly glorifies horse racing a lot, even though the industry is very morally corrupt in like, a dozen different ways. These aspects are entirely glossed over to create a saccharine sports shonen vibe.
I don't really think Umamusume is the height of villainy or anything, but it's a valid criticism.
Imma be honest man whoever on the PETA team brought up this idea had a barely disguised fetish
They don't need fetish; they've already got a thing for making stuff look unnecessarily violent
No Peta, I do not want to play a happy looking childrens game that ends in the main characters being brutally murdered and served as fucking chicken nuggets or something. It's too much shock value and it makes me, as well as unfortunate unsuspecting children, want to disagree with you more
Not only that, but the game shows you real gore of dead animals at random!
Yea no sorry if this was something they were putting on people's timelines uncensored I do not blame them even if its drawn thats still really gross/petas been known for horrible shock value stuff in the past
I reverse image searched it, and it's the most PG of PG broken bones I've seen in my life. Elementary school kids draw more graphic gore than this.
Ya know what I’m inclined to agree with the swag giver here, fuck PETA, full swags given
the yakuza is gonna nuke peta
I’ve never heard of this, does the Yakuza have a similar relationship to umamusume like the cartel and DBZ?
it’s moreso an jokey exaggeration but:
The people who own the racehorses featured in the game irl are ofc quite rich considering how famous these horses are. As such, they have quite a lot of “power” lol
ppl, as they do, started drawing porn of the characters, and then suddenly Japanese players were urged NOT to draw NSFW of them due to the interests of those who actually own the horses. Then some silly (NO DRAMA) Twitter stuff happened where an artist had to apologize and take down their work and people were joking that they “got a call”
so overall it’s just a silly exaggeration
https://i.redd.it/us42g8l02m6g1.gif
This is actually pretty bad, not cause of the image itself, its really not that gory compared to what peta has made, but instead what it represents
Why did you censor it? How are we supposed to judge the swag if we can’t even see what they’re reacting to?
Heres the original. It’s honestly not that bad, I was expecting MUCH worse considering the entire bottom of the image was censored
I was expecting all of her legs to be mangled or something, that was a lot more tamer than I expected.
For real. Like why censor that much of the image. I was expecting a pool of blood or some shit
Rlly not as bad as I thought it would be 😭
I didn’t censor it, that was in the original tweet lmao
So it’s part of the swag
Yeah lol
Funny coincidence
https://preview.redd.it/7maefz4vkj6g1.png?width=1220&format=png&auto=webp&s=32ff70559bd890761989af0783f328db7609cfce
genuine question what the hell is that sub LMFAO
It's the place where horses are destroyed and become glue so they can build the horse-decimator-9000-V2
(It's just a joke sub where they pretend to hate horses)
PETA’s entire brand is ragebait
i found the post on xitter and there's a community note stating that peta is breaking the game's guidelines which is really funny
get ready to learn about parody law buddy
https://preview.redd.it/aq2h4xwjrk6g1.jpeg?width=910&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a753201ac53e0c6460fd06f726a405f19a7ed741
okay but imagine how fucking funny it'd be if peta was severely damaged by the anime horse girl game
"Milk causes autism" Peta vs "Whitewashing an animal abuse industry" Cygames
https://preview.redd.it/zue7mt6xnn6g1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5648ed1e95f38285bf3da213b885af6be7a28327
personally rooting for neither
oh yeah i don't care for either but it'd just be funny (ignoring any other possible effects)
personally i’m hoping for the funniest outcome: mutually assured destruction
Don't remember where, but i remember hearing that horses are euthanized after broken legs because is basically impossible for them to recover from it like a person and can't make do with 3 like a dog or so
Dude that would be kinda fire though, rougelike uma musume where if a horse loses they get taken out of the race
you can do that by yourself. just give the run up everytime you lose a race lmao
I want to get to send the horse woman to the glue factory, there’s no point without it
oh, so NOW they care about euthanasia all of a sudden???
Knowing Umamusume and horse mafia going on around the game, they could probably do that, if they really want to. Even pornography with Umas was risky to make at some point.
That doesn't mean I support actually killing horses just because they can no longer race. They gotta retire and live the rest of their life at peace and comfort eating hay and grass. If an athlete can retire, so can horses.
A lot of the time when a horse gets a major leg injury it's completely impossible for said injury to heal. Also, there are a lot of examples of horses retiring after getting more minor injuries (an umamusume example would be Agnes Tachyon, who retired to be a stud horse after a tendon injury), or sometimes even continuing their racing careers if they are able to recover from it (such as Tokai Teio, who kept racing even after recovering from a leg fracture, several times, and still made it to retirement).
Euthanasia is only done when the horse can't recover. Horse racing definitely has its problems (racing horses too young, exposing horses to excess amounts of physical stress/strain, racing them even when they're not physically fit, etc), but euthanizing unnecessarily is not the biggest one
Also the mafia thing is a misconception, the real reason the company is so strict is to avoid upsetting the owners of the real horses, which has almost caused the entire thing to be cancelled several times (from the owners threatening to withdraw permission to use their horses)
I don't know much about this game, why did the characters have to be based on real horses in the first place? They could've just made original characters with no affiliation, right?
l honestly can't really say much about it, because so much of the game, especially character design, story, and world building, is dependent on the fact that the horsegirls are based on real racehorses (and that the world is the exact same as our world except all horses are instead horsegirls). If they were original characters, the whole feel of the game would be almost entirely different. Sorry if this is a little too vague
Valid swagout
What's the uncensored oregano?
Here it is. It’s not nearly as bad as you’re probably imagining
I didnt read the text at first and for a sec I thought the image was censoring a horse cock
I thought she was giving birth 😭😭😭
not to go against the peta hate train but i actually don’t see a problem with this post. it’s shocking yes but they do make a point of how inhumane horse racing is and how stuff like umamusume whitewashes it’s image.
like even if you REALLY hate peta (which wouldn’t be invalid, i hate them for the "got autism?" campaign for one) you have to still figure that a broken clock can be right twice a day right?
I think the problem is that they tried to reach out to a community by disparaging the game they like and flashbanging them with an image of their comfort character dragging their mutilated leg across the ground. It didn't provoke people into considering the nuance of how Uma has whitewashed Silence's story from a victim run to death by a sport that deprioritized his wellbeing at every turn to a willing competitor that suffered a (nonfatal) freak accident, it made everyone go "eww what the fuck is wrong with PETA?"
The intent is good, the idea is good, the execution was too heavy-handed and fumbled because of it.
counterpoint: gacha games deserve no respect
PETA be making guro art now
fucked up art of suzuka :(
I got a cold swag looking at this 😓
PETA vs Weebs vying for most insufferable group online
They can’t sue, this absolutely falls under fair use due to being parody.
The amount of disinformation the farming and meat lobbies have pushed about PETA is genuinely insane. People in this very comment section are just parroting the same bullshit talking points uncritically that have been debunked and/or explained for YEARS, but it doesn't matter, because the stuff PETA posts genuinely makes them feel bad about themselves (maybe because, y'know, we shouldn't be torturing and killing animals for our own pleasure and people KNOW that)
Eh... I'm more with the perspective of "they have an addiction towards doing the dumbest move possible".
They complain about IP's like Pokémon, even, and Umamesume is rated TV14, I think, so this is at least the second time they've acted for shock value and depicted children's media characters in pain, or dying.
And that's fucking weird. Yeah, I get they're drawing comparisons to real-life animal abuse. And I largely agree, horseracing is fucking brutal and encourages abuse.
But the angle they're choosing is, again, fucking weird. The setting uses the names of real horses, but other than that, it's entirely separated.
And this is the same group who actually tried to lessen milk consumption with the slogan "Got Autism?", so they're already a hard sell in my case.
I think this kind of post is meant to be focused on by younger people, PETA has tons of different kinds of "marketing" tactics, I don't believe this one is particularly effective but I also don't know anything about what it's referencing besides the general "horse racing" angle.
I get PETA ads all the time and most (99%) of them I've seen have focused on laboratory experiments using animals or factory farming expose type content, this post of theirs didn't even show in my feed despite the fact that I follow them.
The outrage is clearly the point, to some extent, but I don't really have a problem with that when the issues they're talking about ARE things to genuinely be outraged about.
The Got Autism? Shit was such a horrendous move on their part. They have definitely made mistakes and they have more recent mistakes I could go on about, but they're also one of the largest outreach groups for vegan ideals and they've done much more good than harm, unless you think making people outraged on the Internet is "harm"
My only real issue is that by clinging to outrage by targeting children's media, it actually hurts them. Overall, PETA is seen as an absolute joke. They can't take PR hits like they think they can.
Lobbyist money is working against their every move and they need every bit of goodwill they can get. Painting poor-taste pictures of children's media is not how that's done, even if I understand the reasoning.
TRUTH NUKE
I mean I hate umamusume too but that's because I fucking hate gacha games and think it's a psyop to normalize gambling (both the genre and game itself)
Buddy I hate to tell you this but with the way sports betting has been legalized recently there is literally zero need for a psyop. There’s actually negative need because it would be counterproductive to train people to like fake gambling (gacha games) when they can go out and like real gambling (gambling)
I hear you but 1. They are both gambling, meaning investors /stockholders get money either way, and 2. Uma and other gacha games were legal before the recent sports betting changes, and 3. Gatchas reinforce the gambler's fallacy with guaranteed pulls. I think that gatchas have had at least some part in the recent changes.
Idk, I just hate gambling so much
Fuckin’ square.
everything in the world is a psyop never trust anybody or anything!!!!
Maybe not psyop to normalise gambling per se, but it definitely is a marketing tactic that basically "really works" for them. It just became more mainstream because everyone wants a slice of the "whale" pie.
Although not to say every gacha is pure evil, some actually do the format relatively well without trying to aggressively extort money out of you or put you in f2p grind hell.
https://preview.redd.it/nnp3qjy1dk6g1.jpeg?width=1835&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bacd31eb05daaba55e7e57c35eb90a9b59db0fd6
Nah I agree we need to liquidate PETA, and I don't mean in the money kinda way.
Serious question: what… is shown in the original picture? Is it gore? I don’t want to see it, I just want to know what was so terrible under that yellow scribble.
Idk I didn’t censor it but I assume it’s a broken leg
fuck peta
Oh, so that is what that r/whenthe meme was referencing.
FUCK PETA!
My personal tangent:: During Katrina Red Rover gathered allot of resources and went down to help people and animals that were stuck.
A lot of animals get abandoned durring evacuation. But its not always a 'fuck the dog thell figure it out' it having to make a hard choice.
Trust theres also allot of assholes ( I learned durring thst trip that quite a few organizations buy farm animals and their corpses to dissuade farmers from selling tainted meat to already struggling communities. Ordesperate locals taking an abandoned pig to eat up. Like homie, the shit pond over flowed and Porky has been treading that water for days. I know you're hungry but-!)
What does this have to do with Peta?
Folks pulled guns on us regularly. It wasnt uncommon for them to suspect us of being Peta trying to steal their animals.
So are we not going to talk about the fact horses are so specialized for standing and running all day that a broken leg is basically guaranteed death (no, horses can’t function on only three legs)? It’s not impossible to repair, but the process is gonna be so traumatic for the horse that they’ll probably die from the stress anyway. Keeping them alive in this case will just prolong their suffering
Nah, I'm swagin rn.
I dont think peta understands that leg injuries are death sentences for horses, and that euthanizing them spares them a lot of pain. Then again it is peta, so
I think the intention was to note that the horses are only getting injured because they're bred for speed over health and then pushed to their physical limits in races, which makes horse racing inherently cruel.
It just kind of got lost in the "hey we drew your comfort character bawling in pain dragging her mutilated leg across the ground" grossness.
Cold sweat..?
https://preview.redd.it/p12bc7cv6p6g1.png?width=300&format=png&auto=webp&s=b0554fed2e589df73ecb1af6776ffbe19260b0e3
The irony of peta talking about animals being put down is palpable
Very legit swag imo, I got pretty pissed and somewhat shocked at peta, like wtf are they thinking drawing a loved character with an open bleeding wound 🥀💔
does PETA know making horses live with amputated legs is painful and inhumane for them? that unless a broken leg heals perfectly, it will always cause them pain and discomfort? PETA also kills animals anyways. lmao
They're against the exploitation of animals via horse riding PERIOD. They aren't making the point that it's inhumane to keep a horse with a debilitating injury alive, they're pointing out that the injury only happened because of exploitation in the first place.
PETA kills a majority of the animals that come into their care lol. this is fake outrage. i’m not arguing the ethics of horse racing with PETA defenders
PETA kills the majority of animals that come into their care because they don't reject ANY animal... This means that animals every other shelter rejects (because they're too aggressive, too old, too injured, whatever) end up in PETAs care. Unless you think they're in possession of some technology to make their buildings have infinite space inside them, I'm curious as to what YOUR solution is to this problem.
Animals being euthanized is a huge part of ANY animal rescue organization, unfortunately. It's just that PETA also argues for vegan ethics, which huge farming and meat lobbying groups hate, so they spend tons of time and money pushing anti peta propaganda. There ARE legitimate grievances you can have with the organization (the silence on animal rights abuses in the Gaza genocide come to mind) but none of that is relevant to you , because it's much easier to come up with some bullshit excuse to discredit them.
you just described a chop shop. “they accept all animals so they HAVE to kill others.” okay PETA defender bye.
Honestly eating meat and getting upset that PETA kills animals is maybe the most hilarious form of mental deficiency. Where do you think the meat you eat comes from?
There's something deeply ironic about getting so worked up you block someone in a sub like this. Total mental defeat for werewolflover.
Do you have like. Any thoughts rattling around up there
Honestly as someone who does not like umamasume or gacha anime games in general, if they fucking executed injured girls at the end of the race i might get into it just for that. Like I'm imagining the awards ceremony and everybody is cheering and clapping and then the screen fades to black and you just hear a gunshot. You never see that horse girl again and no one ever talks about it, the game just pretends that girl never existed. I think that would be really funny, I'd play until everyone is dead